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[–]ScurvemuchRed Beret 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (5子コメント)

It is OK to feel bad.

It is ok to have regrets. And its ok to admit that maybe you made a mistake. Maybe not.

Are you venting and want a hug? Or are you looking for a discussion?

I am fine with either, but its Stoneys turn to give hugs.

[–]FireTemperedred beret 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You got a hug from Stoney? Really?

[–]ScurvemuchRed Beret 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He was drunk.

either way, its his turn.

[–]sh0ckley 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would need proof to believe it.

[–]donedreadpirate[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks. I don't want anything but the perspectives of RP-aware men.

[–]ScurvemuchRed Beret 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My perspective - I get it your situation.

I can't say I've been around a lot of blocks - but enough to know that what separates women is mostly inside their heads.

Pussy is pussy. Tits are tits and asses are asses.

What really makes the difference in my experience is how they approach sex. Are they willing to be as fun and sexual as YOU want in and out of bed.

If your wife can be your slut- good. If not - the advice is not different. She meets your needs or she doesn't. You stay with her or don't.

[–]alpha_as_chiwawa 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (4子コメント)

You've slept with one person because there is no way the person you were could have slept with more.

The time lost is lost forever. Not all people get to experience all the awesome stuff. You think you have it bad to fuck one pussy? Well, there are children dying of cancer who have experienced much, much less than you have (non-sexually I mean).

The fact that you are bothered by her history shows some emotional immaturity. For that kind of thing therapy could help (but I would not recommend discussing TRP there, like, at all).

Get over it and move on. You have 2 kids and a huge obligation.

Pro tip: if you fucked more than 1 it'd just be eating you why not 10, 20, 100? Probably there is a number where that bugging feeling stops, but where is it, who knows?

Pro tip2: had a friend who fucked every hot chick out there in his youth. Committed a suicide last year due to depression. Sometimes I wonder if the disconnect between alpha him and family guy him was just so huge he couldn't get any satisfaction from a perfect, happy family alone? Be careful what you wish for.

[–]donedreadpirate[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Thanks for this.

[–]stonepimpletilistsMod / Red Beret 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

don't. it's what you wanted to hear, women often tell you to STFU and man-up, which coincides with what they want as well...

It's about wanting something, and getting it, while owning the concequences.

[–]donedreadpirate[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

True

[–]stonepimpletilistsMod / Red Beret 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Look, I'm not going to lie to you, theres an A...Z mindset that comes with these simple answers, and you have to learn it the same as everyone else.

Rollos books are a good start for you.

[–]sh0ckley 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Regret is totally counter productive without action based upon rational analysis of reality. Not feelings.

What do you want to change and why? What can you change and what must you accept?

If she's really as good as you could ask for, then count your blessings.

Epictetus - "The Art Of Living" helped me sort out a lot of what I thought was regret.

[–]donedreadpirate[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cool I will check that out thank you.

[–]GargantuaBlarg29Red Beret 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Look at yourself. Here you are, a grown ass man, gushing to other grown ass men that the number of women youve fucked is 1. That your wife has had other dicks in her. And that this gnaws at your sense of worth. This screams 'no frame'. This screams 'I get my approval and self worth from sources outside of myself'. This screams weakness.

 

Get your shit together man. Life is hard and full of regrets and tough decisions. But end of the day it's all on you. If you want to go out and chase other women and that's what you want to do for you, fuck morals and go do it. But notice I said for you. And from what you wrote it sounds like it isn't for you, it's to soothe your ego. Because you think society is keeping score and youre eternally behind. And if that's the case I'd advise to take it slow. Develop a frame, some self worth, and a drive. Once you do you'll feel what YOU want as clear as day, based off nothing but your true wants. (For the record: My n count is 1. My wife has had other dicks in her before me. And she's not a complete bitch.)

[–]QuickieStart 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Chill out! Why are you even ashamed of this? I know why, because i had the same upbringing. Was embarrassed of being a virgin. In fact in high school one friend would introduce me as his virgin buddy. I realized our culture says you can and should be screwing wherever and whenever you can, but my family said you only do it in marriage, not for fun, and never talk about it. I knew neither was right. Since then I've been able to erase much of that programming. Been married 20 years to the only women I've ever slept with - no regrets! The sex keeps getting better and better as I get better and better. It gets worse if i don't improve. That's why I'm here - to build a better man. I don't need more pussies for that.

[–]LewisCross 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

She had between 2 and 4 partners. Which is it? What's the number? She can't tell you what the number is?

By your account, she's done nothing wrong, she's a good woman, and has done right by you in her marriage to you. Also, N=4 these days is actually pretty chaste. You did well to get a woman who mostly kept her legs shut, didn't fuck every guy who wanted to fuck her, wasn't a party girl, and didn't use her looks and body to extract concessions from guys. SOunds like she hopped on the carousel and then very quickly hopped off. Most girls with that N avoided the carousel, or tried it out and decided "nope, not for me." Which inures to your benefit.

My advice is to go talk to someone about this, and work on yourself to get past it. Because if you don't, you'll make your life and hers and your children's lives a living hell, and you'll be basically suggesting that she divorce you. Don't talk to your wife about this. DO NOT talk to her about this. You know enough from her.

[–]donedreadpirate[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

She said 2 so I assume more than that because "the one guy at that party who couldn't keep his dick up" doesn't count and "she only blew" that other guy etc... I will not and have not talked to her about it. You mean talk to a therapist or something?

[–]LewisCross 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, talk to a therapist.

OK, I see what your ambivalence about the N is. Assume the rule of 3. Triple the number she actually admits to.

I'm starting to wonder a little. "that one guy at the party who couldn't keep his dick up" and "she only blew" another guy suggests a woman who used to be a party girl.

Look. Assume she's not telling you the truth about this. You are NEVER going to get the full truth from her about this. Never. All the same, you say she's been a good wife and has done right by you. So go talk to a therapist, get this shit off your chest and find a way to make your peace with it. And fuck the shit out of your wife. And start doing things you want to do.

[–]Thomaskingo 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

We have two kids and I feel like I fucked up majorly by getting married and never playing the field.

Man, let it fucking go. You're obsessing over the realization, that she had sex with some other people before you, and she's your first and only. OK, now ask yourself why this bothers you. It doesn't really seem like you yourself know why, besides you think you're supposed to be bothered. "Uh oh she rode the CC before I met her, and now I'm redpill aware, and I think I'm behind on points..." This it? Man, as some philosopher (who I can't remember the name of) said so beautifully; "sex is nothing more than internal rubbing, followed by a spastic secretion of slim!" Pussy is just pussy. You did miss out on the hunt and the weird feeling of victory, that comes with sinking your dick into strange pussy, but fuck that. Make your peace with it. You have a good life and your just afraid, that you missed out. Ask yourself if the alternative of single life really would be that much better. I really think the more important question is, whether your wife is saving her best from you, but that doesn't sound like it's the case. I think you should really examine why you're upset about this? If you think it makes you a lesser man, then you're stone cold dead wrong!

Edit: substantial edit.

[–]donedreadpirate[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks dude

[–]Thomaskingo 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're welcome. I met my wife when I was 21. I didn't have many lays behind me. The years went on. She became pregnant, and gave me a beautiful son and later an equally fantastic girl. We had our ups and downs. As we were about to get married (when I was 24 and our son was still an infant), I was seriously in doubt if I was missing out by marrying so young, just when I came into my own as a man. It was hard. The thoughts of missing out of being with different women was gnawing at me. Marriage is to me finite. It's supposed to last until death unless something fucked up happens (like cheating). Eventually I came to the realization, that I really loved this woman, and that my fear of missing out was essentially a sort of social bullshit myth. She was what I wanted, and the life I was building with her was more rewarding and valuable, than some hedonistic and essentially unrewarding fleeting instances of lust and conquest. Mind you this doesn't come from a place of abject blue-pill delusion or onities. Shit I'd love to stick my dick in stange pussy, but man who doesn't, and in the big ol' personal cost/benefit analysis it really isn't worth it. The wife is great at giving head, and she cocks dinner, and we are happy. The glass might already be broken, but that's ok, because right now it's great, and it'll probably be so for a long time, if I am the Oak. I am happy. You should simply allow yourself to be so as well. Don't let some external trope about "missing out" infect your peace of mind. It's just static. Tune it out.

[–]stonepimpletilistsMod / Red Beret 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If it bothers you, get divorce papers and go spin plates. Or build up a life of plausible deniability, and spin plates with her around.

Or get the fuck over it, and move on

Pick one, fence sitters have painful assholes

[–]FireTemperedred beret 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Today's quote. "Do what you want"

[–]Mecha75 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why is this even a thing? Are you just bored with your wife's vag? Are you looking for a blessing to go fuck other women or divorce your wife? Red Pill is amoral. We don't give a crap if you decide to spin plates or not. Come, read, learn, become a better man and share those experiences to help others like me on our paths to self improvement. But don't come looking for acceptance of your hamstered reasons to cheat on or divorce your wife. Do it, or don't do it.

[–]alphabeta49Red Beret 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Join the club. We offer sad handjobs and the the tears gleaned from a thousand neckbeards.

This is a case of "when you're poor, $5 is a lot of money". The cure? Make a lot of money. Or in your case, get a lot of experience. Yes, I'm telling you you need to go fuck other women to feel better about yourself. That's ok.

And what you'll find in the end is that the Chase of the Strange Pussy is thrilling and all, but at the end of the day you're a man and you'll never be satisfied. You're never going to reach a point at which you say to yourself, "man, I'm so satisfied sexually, all I want to do is stay faithful to my wife now." Ask over60.

But why leave a good woman for no other reason than to fuck shallow women?

Look, there are things a man needs to accomplish in life. Not as a right, but as a rite. Banging lots of women is one of those, and, speaking for myself, I intend to achieve. Whether or not I stay married. It means I've embraced the "cheater" label and don't give a fuck what society thinks. And it doesn't really matter how awesome my wife is or how much we have sex (ok, I take that back. There was one time a year ago when she had a particularly random ovulation period and we fucked 6 days out of 7. All thoughts of other women were absent. But it's only happened once. She's not capable of satisfying me consistently). The fact is, that gnawing feeling you have (sans jealousy, my wife's n-count is just me) is going to remain unless you 1) satisfy it intelligently or 2) keep yourself so fucking busy you don't have time to think about it. <<<Pro tip: once I started a business and spent much more time on my hobbies/lifting/MAP, the obsession with anything other than my mission diminished.

Are you there yet? Are you attractive enough to pull it off? Are you OI enough to not care if she finds out and divorces? Are you level headed enough to not fall for a random? I doubt any of your answers are yes.

[–]LewisCross 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sure he could go fuck other women. What he'll find out is that the secrecy and the fact that pussies feel pretty much the same makes it not worth it for a lot of guys. Not saying don't do it; saying that fucking other women might not be worth it to him.

[–]alphabeta49Red Beret 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Right, but he won't believe us until he does it himself. Then he'll get to decide if its worth it. Right now he's making the decision without any other option/knowledge/experience, which isn't really a decision. I can completely understand how he feels trapped.

[–]donedreadpirate[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks I appreciate the perspective

[–]pikadildo 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh, boy you're provoking a ramble. I don't think you're alone. I'm also N=1 and wonder about it from time to time. I've spent a lot of time thinking about this problem. My sense now is a lot of it actually boils down to frustration with myself. For me "someone else" would be about fulfilling some unexpressed desire or curiosity while trying to avoid communicating about it. Usually either because I'm afraid of what my wife would think of me, or because I'm uncomfortable with the idea itself.

I used to spend a lot of time with the covert contract "if I can just figure out some secret desire of hers, I'll have something to negotiate with". But that's a pretty passive aggressive and backwards approach. I think the idea of "some girl out there" is just me wishing for a way to avoid having to be vulnerable and ask for it. Which I now view as pathetic and a personal failure. So at least for now I view the problem as me, not her. Since then everything I've actually told my wife I want to try, she's found a way to accommodate and we're having a lot of fun. Sometimes things are better in fantasy, sometimes things take practice.

Some key thoughts I've come to rely on are that I do not need to explain or understand why I want to try something (esp to myself). "It's hot" is always enough justification. Her fears and discomforts don't invalidate or negate my desires. And that's OK. I don't punish her about it. Actually knowing her fears and discomforts don't change my opinion of her. Sometimes she's had completely strange ideas about things that I would never have guessed. Direct motivated action is a hell of a lot more effective than guessing and subterfuge. I also encourage a much more experimental environment where mistakes and failures are expected. The first time of anything is rarely the best, anyway.

[–]trp_ocd1 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dread has great effect on your wife, but a better effect on you.

Are you a swole well dressed dude, knowing you could pull and fuck any chick you want? Or are you the sassy fag with a sore asshole from being perched on the fence, as stone has pointed out?

[–]dandar4600 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

If it's any consolation going forward if you nuke it and go play the field, know that pretty much every girl will have a higher n-count than your wife.

[–]470_2_700_nm 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Your a pussy. All I read is I "feel" this and "feel" that and the FOMO line is all about your fucking feelings.

Oh and I can't stand the thought of her being banged by her exes. You have oneitus then. I can relate on this but refuse to do so in depth because this feeling comes from a feeling of weakness and pussificton so I'm stopping. Maybe I'm a little further ahead on killing oneitus than you are. But who fucking cares. This is for pussies not black belt MRP's which I'm expecting you are aspiring to be.

And news flash fuck head, you don't need to leave her to fuck someone else.

My ultimate advice: do what you need to do for you. What ever that's is. Have the courage to do that.

Does this mean stopping working to take a few months to reflect the places you've been and get in the best shape of your life? Does this mean to put the pedal to the metal and go for it in business? Does this mean to take some strange pussy on the side, or to ravage your current LTR like the slut she is, enjoying every moment of the experience including the game?

Internet dudes can't tell you this. Only you can.

Oh and stop typing your feelings in MRP it's reminding me of what a pussy I was and to a degree am still. Just. Fucking. Stop. It.

[–]innominating 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Go fuck someone else. Ideally, you game that girl into bed, but if not, hire an escort.

As for your wife, get over it, she isn't yours, it's just your turn.

[–]BobbyPeru 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This issue resides in your head... Nowhere else. MAP, lift, read, and dread, and this insecurity will go away.... Maybe try a therapist (male) if it's really eating you up in the meantime.

[–]jacksarmy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dude the rule of 3, multiply whatever number she says and you will have the real amount of guys she slept with,12 cocks at least! Have you not seen American Pie..

[–]aurelius_shrugs -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Be a man and get side pussy.

Every woman I know has had her ass penetrated and a threesome.