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[–]Ghost_LeaderBG[S] 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (19子コメント)

What's interesting is that Bethesda might have potentially leaked the RX 490 GPU by AMD:

Recommended PC Specs

Windows 7/8/10 (64-bit OS required)

Intel Core i7-5820K or better

GTX 1080 8GB/AMD Radeon RX 490 8GB

8GB+ Ram

[–]zombeeman90 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Holy hell. The 1080 as recommended?? Well, I guess I'll play this in a few years after I upgrade.

[–]Gibsonitesi7 3770k | GTX 1080 | 4x4gb RAM | 1440p 120hz 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'm playing it on a 1080 and even then I'm getting really bad frame drops and stuttering in certain locations.

[–]Raikaru 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's because DX11 can't handle the draw calls of the shadows

[–]CyberPunk88 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Any way to fix this? Tweaking the shadows a certain way?

[–]Rahnek1080 | 4690K @ 4.3 | 8GB | [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Put them on medium.

[–]superjake [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Either put shadows distance on medium or edit the ini file for somewhere between high and medium as the difference in the values is quite large.

[–]daviejambo 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

There is also no such a graphic card as RX 490 (yet)

[–]OverlyReductionist5820k @ 4.4, 16 GB 2400 mhz, 780 SLI 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I looked at the Bethesda post that PCGamer linked to and there is no mention of the RX490 whatsoever (let alone an AMD card). Either PCGamer anticipated the influx of commenters asking about the AMD equivalent and reasoned that since its just a texture pack, they should put the RX 480 8GB as an alternative (and then misspelled it), or Bethesda realized their mistake and immediately removed mention of the 490. What really weirds me out about these specs is that they recommended a 5820k (a six core processor out of the x99 lineup) for a texture pack, whereas the base game recommended a 4790. If there's any proof that people should totally disregard recommended specs, this is probably it. I don't know how higher res textures suddenly increase the CPU requirements. The only thing to (maybe?) take away from this announcement is that perhaps a 8GB framebuffer may be necessary for the high-res textures.

[–]cronedog 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

High rez textures must take up a lot of ram. Maybe this is for 4k resolution, with them assuming no one would download 58 extra gigs of texture that wouldn't make a different in 1080p gaming.

[–]KantArgueWithThatXeon e3-1231v3|GTX 970|16GB RAM [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Betcha these textures are unoptimized as hell. For Skyrim it's still recommended you compress some of the textures to safe VRAM space if you're planning on modding.

[–]meeheecaan 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

wait wait wait, this new texture pack needs a 5820k and 1080 to hit the intended fps? I didnt even think this game used more than 4 threads.

[–]zornyan [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

just to add halo wars 2 lists a 1080 TI as required for ultra settings.

methinks this is more than coincidence....

[–]forsayken 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yep. This is definitely the most interesting part! Go back to the page again and it now lists no AMD GPU.

Unless you're lying, OP! OP...don't be an OP!

Also, 58GB download? Holy shit. That is a lot of pixels.

[–]Ghost_LeaderBG[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm certainly not lying:

http://www.dsogaming.com/news/bethesda-may-have-accidentally-leaked-amds-new-vega-10-gpu-to-be-called-rx490-will-feature-8gb-of-vram/

There's also a picture of the requirements in the source above :)

[–]forsayken 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Noice! You swiftly avoided being that OP. Good work!

[–]st_ryder -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I mean, who the fuck has 1080??? like 0.000001% of gamers?

[–]Solo59 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Even with the 1080 the fps in some places in fallout 4 is really bad.

[–]Geophery13 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (12子コメント)

58GB for textures. good god.

[–]TowawayAccount 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I love high-res texture packs and I'm a sucker for making my Bethesda games a little prettier.

But 58 GB better some photorealistic shit. That is just a ridiculous size for a texture pack that is likely going to be in the same realm of quality as their Skyrim texture pack.

[–]RedS5i7 6700, GTX1070 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't know if it will be in the same realm as their Skyrim pack. Have you looked at those system reqs?

A fuckin' 1080? Really? I mean that's great but really?

I'm thinking they're going full-4K.

[–]Raikaru 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They are. Fallout 4 textures are 2048x2048 so this will be 4096x4096 (this is above 4k but yeah)

[–]Geophery13 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yup, sounds like even if I felt like sacrificing the SSD space for this, my 970 won't be able to keep up..

...not to mention my imaginary 490 that doesn't exist yet.

[–]Kresky 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Knowing Bethesda, I wouldn't be surprised if you're just better off using mods like with Skyrim and textures (The official HD texture pack was bigger and worse quality than what modders did)

[–]Harun12345678910 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

WTF Bethesda? That's almost larger than GTA V and more than twice the size of the Witcher and that just for textures.

[–]I_love_orange_juice 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's almost larger than GTA V and more than twice the size of the Witcher and that just for textures.

I assume you mean Witcher 3. Do those game have high-resolution textures? Doesn't Witcher 2 have higher texture resolution than 3?

[–]Harun12345678910 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes , Witcher 3 but 58 GB is insane.

[–]freehotdawgs 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, it better look good for being as enormous as it is.

[–]conquer69 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Textures won't fix the horrible animations or incomplete features like the settlements.

[–]WhiteZeroi7-4770K, 16GB DDR3-2200, EVGA 1070 FTW [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah sounds like maybe totally uncompressed textures. Might be better to wait for a modder to optimize them. But hey, good on Bethesda for offering them!

[–]DJ-PamParam -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe cause it has to download ALL the textures from stratch again (not just "upgrade" textures). It will probably delete the old ones after - still a lot tho.

[–]Battlegenius 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

58GB worth of textures sounds like "agh... fuck it... leave them as-is" kinda job. Modders will tell us if it's worth the DL.

[–]Necro- 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

im curious to see some comparison, i cant run it because apparently im a pleb with a 970.

[–]zombeeman90 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah apparently my 980ti just isn't up to snuff.

[–]Dr_Andracca 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Recommended is a GTX 1080... holy shit. I understand aiming high, but wtf? That is really fucking high. You've literally got 3, maybe 4, cards on the market that can achieve that sort of power. Fyi- Anything from last gen, including their Titan X,is basically SOL on this. That is roughly equal to a GTX 1070 if I am not mistaken.

[–]Vadara 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (5子コメント)

PC Gamers: "Stop aiming for consoles and let us use our more powerful PC's to their max!"

someone actually does it

PC Gamers: "wtf dude why do I need such a powerful GPU to run this!?"

[–]Dr_Andracca 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Your logic falls apart when a 3 year old mid-range card destroys the new PS4 Pro.

[–]Vadara 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The pro isn't getting the new textures tho

[–]Dr_Andracca [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

My point is that midrange cards are more powerful, why not utilize them too? I'm not arguing against your comment. I want them to make better looking games, and this is indeed a step in the right direction, but unless it is purely just 4K texture resolutions they should let the midrange cards in on it too. TL:DR- I want them to aim higher, but not that much higher.

[–]ActionFlank 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, but it's Bethesda, so it's going to be sloppy.

[–]Tereliusi5 - 4690K | RX 480 8GB | 8GB RAM [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well the game is horribly optimized so this is justified.

[–]Rupperrt 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I guess it's mostly VRAM requirements so the old Titan X is probably fine.

[–]Dr_Andracca 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I seriously hope so. If you drop $1200 on a card you'd damn well better be set for a few years.

[–]finalgear14i5 4690k@4.5, GTX 980 ti, HTC VIVE [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Meh, they're full of shit. If the only thing they're improving is texture resolution then all you should need is more vram and potentially higher bandwidth. I would be surprised if 6gb cards can't do it since the base game only uses 3gb of vram.

[–]Ryanjtombsi7 4790k, GTX 980, 16gb RAM 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Welp, I'll still try to run it on my 980.

[–]croy_004770k/SLI'd GTX 980's 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I can barely achieve 30fps with my 980's in SLI with this game on Medium for some fucking reason. I would have rather seen bug fixes and optimizations over a large texture pack drop.

[–]KnightBlue2 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Have you tried disabling SLI? My 970 runs it fine.

[–]croy_004770k/SLI'd GTX 980's 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I get slightly better results disabling SLI. It's strange how I cam crush most games at 3440 x 1440 without issue, with the exception of Bethesda crap.

I love seeing my GPU's sit at 25% usage, while I crawl along at 20-30fps!

[–]KnightBlue2 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Ah, 1440p is probably what's doing it. I game at 1080p and my GTX 970 runs at around 70-80 FPS.

[–]croy_004770k/SLI'd GTX 980's 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's just strange because The Witcher 3 runs smooth as fuck, and shits all over Fallouts low-res textures. Of course that game is well optimized by a competent development team.

[–]OneTrueKram 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be fair, SLI is kind of shitty. Maybe sell the 980s and grab a 1080, my 1080 performs great at 3440x1440. And remember, that is harder to run than 1440p.

[–]biggest_decision [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It sounds like you are being cpu limited, what does the cpu% look like while the gpu is that low?

[–]litework_ -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (4子コメント)

With the FPS cap at 60 anyway, one can hope that it won't decimate 900 series cards too badly. Also seeing as a 1080 is recommended, that means you can expect a series or two behind are all that's required.

[–]phantamines -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Hm, I've been able to run FO4 at 100fps for many months with no issues.

[–]lolygagging 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you are actually running it at 100 fps you should run into a lot of issues.

[–]TheKrud 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ok. That's 40% faster than regular, so the game timing and physics are 40% faster. Yes, you'd be playing it with significant issues. But, since you're full of shit...

[–]phantamines [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

http://imgur.com/Q1VnieY

Over 240 hours, installed well over 250+ mods, ENB/SweetFX. Ya, been playing for months with no issue at 100+ fps. On release it was buggy, but the community quickly found resolutions for people playing on 144hz monitors.

[–]YareDaze 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I need zoomed in comparison picture/videos.

[–]Ghost_LeaderBG[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We'll probably get those closer to/after release. If not by Bethesda surely some folks in the community with beefy rigs will.

[–]_theholyghost 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Enhanced God Rays

Let's not pretend like anyone could run the game very well with the regular god rays maxed out. Christ.

[–]OneTrueKram 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

"Why won't developers push PC hardware?"

"OMG TOP OF THE LINE CARD RECOMMENDED WAAAAHHHHH WAAAAHHHHH WAH WAH WAHHHHH"

[–]Treyman1115i5 4690k @ 4.4 GHz Dual 280x's [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Depends on how that runs on that hardware

[–]Fanu12i5 3470 | 16GB | G1 GTX970 | 144Hz 1080p 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (9子コメント)

bethesda at this point are master trolls with their elder scrolls and fallout series..it has become a choir to play their games and they are making it as difficult as possible to enjoy them

[–]DJ-PamParam 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Care to eloborate? Fallout 4 was quite well-recieved and enjoyed by a lot of people outside of the /r/pcgaming's FUCK BETHESDA circlejerk.

[–]Fanu12i5 3470 | 16GB | G1 GTX970 | 144Hz 1080p -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (7子コメント)

once that hype went down (won't even comment all the sites giving this game perfect scores..) and people invested more then the initial few hours in the game, there were number of posts saying game wasn't really an RPG and that dialogues and missions themselves were shallow bollocks

and now they release a 58GB texture pack thinking thats what people wanted..

yeah, I'm going to spend several hours (some even days) to download textures for a cash grab of a game riding its hype wave

yes, it might be a fun game to some people, but looking at the previous installments its anything but..

btw use of word "circlejerk" should be banned - some posters in here think its enough to add it to their posts as if it actually meant something or contributed in any way to the overall discussion

[–]Vadara 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

yes, it might be a fun game to some people, but looking at the previous installments its anything but..

Given that it's the best selling game on Steam for 2016. clearly it's fun for more than "some people".

[–]Fanu12i5 3470 | 16GB | G1 GTX970 | 144Hz 1080p 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

going by sales numbers bf1 and cod infinite warfare are amaze balls games..

[–]Br1ckFuckingMaster [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yep! I haven't played BF1 but Infinite Warfare is fantastic!

[–]Treyman1115i5 4690k @ 4.4 GHz Dual 280x's [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well there's people who would probably say that's the case, or at the very least enjoy them

[–]DJ-PamParam 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

As /u/Vadara pointed out. Fallout 4 was one of the most popular games of 2016 on all platforms. It was also very well recieved my critics and the general public.

I'm not trying to say the game was perfect or a great RPG, hell, I didn't enjoy it that much (and I much prefer FNV etc.), but thegame definitely wasnt a failure like a lot of people here make it sound like.

[–]Ghastly_Vocabulary 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Awesome. So far out of all the games I play, including GTA5 and Warframe at 4k...Fallout 4 dips hard at 1080p. Thanks AMD and/or Bethesda.

[–]Filipi_7 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not only AMD's fault. On many Nvidia cards the game runs pretty bad too.

[–]Nexxus88 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Still waiting for GOTY edition beth....

[–]Ghost_LeaderBG[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Aren't they done with GOTYs? The game + the season pass is essentially the same thing.

[–]Nexxus88 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

At an inflated cost yeah. Season passes haven't stopped other devs from making GOTY/COMPLETE/DEFINITIVE/FUCKITWEWANTMOREMONEY editions

[–]elcapeeetan 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I still can't believe they won't support ultrawide resolutions. For a newer AAA title, it's unacceptable.

[–]suisidexi7-3770k 980sc 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (10子コメント)

I almost feel disappointed in myself for buying this game at launch.

I mean i wasn't even hyped and i thought it was going to be mediocre but i didn't think it was going to be that buggy...

I literally got to that first town where you meet your ''save this settlement.'' dude and before i decided to help his friends i wanted to explore, so i killed those raiders just outside that building and it was glitched because i didn't get into the power armor. I had to restart my whole entire game right from the beginning.

[–]Mastotron 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I feel you man, I bought the special edition with the pip-boy phone case. I never spring for SE versions of games, but my GF and I are pretty big fallout fans so I thought, why not? Imagine my dismay as I got stuck at the first terminal (144hz issue.) I was so bummed I still haven't gotten back to it.

[–]DJ-PamParam 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

So you are a big fallout fan who bought the (expensive as fuck and rare) special edition... and didn't play it cause of a single bug? Not to call bullshit or anything...but....

[–]Mastotron 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Uh.. call it whatever you like? Just sharing my experience. Didn't realize it was an interrogation. I tried the workaround and honestly, didn't want to play the game in gimped form. Waited for a patch and when it came I was aware of it, just haven't got back to playing it.

[–]DJ-PamParam 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Didn't want to come off as a douche, just thought your experience sounded kinda bullshit/exaggerated.

[–]Mastotron [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Not at all, I didn't mean to come off douchey either. I still plan to finish the game. Looking forward to texture pack (albeit a monster download!)

[–]winglerw28 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's pretty easy to fix that issue, it took me five minutes when the game originally released and is even easier now with updates having removed most of the unintended consequences of doing so...

[–]Mastotron 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

If you have the time to troubleshoot problems with AAA titles, that's great man. I used to do stuff like that when I had more free time. Job, family, and social obligations leave me with a minute amount of game time per week. I don't waste that time trying to get games to run. I wait for patches and get back to them when I can. I have a pretty hefty backlog so there's always something else to play.

[–]winglerw28 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I didn't mean to come off as derisive as much as point out the fix is easy. As in, you go into a single configuration file, flip "yes" to "no", done. It took me five minutes, total, between the Google search and editing the INI.

I also have obligations and a full time job, and I could understand having tried for a few minutes. Just giving up after spending that much money I'd at least have requested a refund or something... It seems like such a waste. I mean, I know I'm assuming you didn't when you well could have, but still. :|

[–]couching5000i5-4570/Sapphire R9 280x [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I mean i wasn't even hyped and i thought it was going to be mediocre but i didn't think it was going to be that buggy...

You mean how it was significantly less buggy than any of their previous installments?

[–]BrBoomr -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This was the game that taught me not to pre-order, which killed me inside due to New Vegas being my favorite RPG ot all time, even above The Witcher 3.

[–]cronedog 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

All the people complaining about the 58 gb download are the reason we can't have nice things.

[–]PM_me_your_spacegoatleeyum 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think people are really complaining. It's more surprise, 58gb is huge.

[–]I_am_Andrew_Ryan [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

58 gb better be goddamn raw files from a camera good textures. If they're not (and this is still bethesda) then it's bonkers huge and clearly unoptimized.

[–]Richard_MF_Nixoni5-4670K OC @ 4.4GHz | GTX 1080 | 16GB DDR3 | Win10 Pro [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm not a gambling man, but I know where I'd put my money on this one.

[–]twald0MSI 980ti | i5 6600k 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So if you're running a 980ti and a 1080p monitor, just don't even bother messing with this?

[–]James_bdFX-8350 | R9 390 8GB Asus Strix 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm still waiting for a patch to fix the stuttering the Season Pass brought to my game. It was perfectly fine, then I buy the Season Pass and it's unplayable.

[–]Filipi_7 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

58GB?

I'm guessing some (most?) of the textures are not even compressed to make it look like it's some photorealistic remake of the entire game.

[–]OnePonders 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hopefully this is the last DX11 Bethesda game.

[–]gunslingerx64 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well I just upgraded to a 1080 FTW and fallout still plays weird. This will be fun to try...

[–]dazdazdeei7 6700k GTX 1080 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Good to see developers push the boundaries of the available technology. This won't be for everyone but I'll be interested to see how it all looks.

[–]Stewie01 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Shame it wasn't at release, I hope it's more of an improvement then their HD pack that they made for Skyrim. I remain sceptical.

[–]finalgear14i5 4690k@4.5, GTX 980 ti, HTC VIVE [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Fallout 4 only uses 3gb of vram and the entire games takes up 25gb of storage space. These better be some supremely high quality textures if they're saying you need 8gb of vram and 58gb of storage space for them.

[–]walrus_of_fate [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

So it sounds like they're uncompressed and poorly optimized. Checking all those bethesda boxes.

[–]Rekani 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It has issues with bigger framerates and the mousemovement crap. Bad rpg too

[–]Steven467465820k 4.5 Ghz | Corsair 32GB 3200 | 1080 Xtreme | Asus Pg348q 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Maybe they'll patch in some ultra-wide support so I don't have deal with the issues of making it "work".

[–]TicklishRocket4790k, GTX 1070 Win10/Arch/Sierra 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would rather them patch other more serious issues.

[–]st_ryder -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Recommended PC Specs

Windows 7/8/10 (64-bit OS required)

Intel Core i7-5820K or better

GTX 1080 8GB

8GB+ Ram

FUCK YOU