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[–]BrazilRedPill 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Then I fucked up and DEERed a single sentence: I am not able to feel guilt over things I have no control over. After that one wrong move... BOOM.

I don't think this was a wrong move. I think it was a good one. She is the bitch; she was in the mood for blame anything on men, and since you were the closest one, she blew on you.

I was thrown off after this screw up and couldn't come up with any sarcastic A&A for politics on the spot. Another failure. I'm all ears for future suggestions.

Yes, now you better obey me in everything as your master, because I am the man and the President of United States is on my side!

Yes, I wanna be like Trump, I will get a haircut like his!

Arriving at home, she said I should tolerate her bitchiness because she gives me sex. I didn't respond to that.

You are sounding like a prostitute now. How much do I need to tolerate to get anal?

Analysis. My options are:

c.) pass shit tests.

A&A is the best option almost always. We give illogical, unreasonable answers, but they bite. They will never say that your answer made no sense; it makes sense to them.

Learn A&A and be happy.

[–]sh0ckley[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't think this was a wrong move.

Interesting point. It was DEER no doubt but I was talking to her like I'd talk to some cunt who got in my face at a bar.

Yes, I wanna be like Trump, I will get a haircut like his!

This is a skill level I lost possession of at the time.

You are sounding like a prostitute now. How much do I need to tolerate to get anal?

lol this is gold and exactly what I needed. Had I delivered it with a smile, I would have gotten sucked off in short order.

c.) pass shit tests.

Yep. I failed and knew it, forgetting this best option.

A&A is the best option almost always.

Indeed and because too many fucks were given I couldn't hold the humor well enough and have piece of mind to follow through.

More areas for improvement. Appreciate the feedback.

[–]anythingincRed Beret 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes, I wanna be like Trump, I will get a haircut like his!

I have been growing my hair out, I swoop it back and call it "The Don" just to trigger her. Her anxiety and political BS takes over until I just absolutely "fry her circuits." It is a PUA term but it absolutely works, once she's been fried and I weather the storm its back to business as usual.

[–]sh0ckley[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"fry her circuits." It is a PUA term but it absolutely works, once she's been fried and I weather the storm its back to business as usual.

I have not heard that term. Thanks.

And now that I no longer have to fear the boogeyman, let's see how it goes.

[–]AnonomousKyle 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am new, I am not trolling. Promise.

Honestly when it comes to the "civil war" give it time, the longer they go with all of this the more apt they are to eat their own. I keep seeing it with all of the marginalized groups, LGBT has been talking about how Gays and Lesbians need to step aside and keep quiet because the Transexuals need more exposure. Bisexuals were already tossed aside, too mainstream and not gay enough. Then we see BLM not accept white support. Feminists don't want men talking now either. White cis Males cannot be allies with any of them anymore, they need to shut up and stay in the background now. There are too many groups trying to control others and stand out as the #1 victim. People upset because you aren't using their newly made up language. It's pure chaotic madness and really there is nothing I feel like I can do but sit back and laugh while improving on myself. All the while these "Problems" that all these groups are trying to solve don't actually exist as much anymore so they turn on each other.

About your actions, I'm nowhere near experienced enough in MRP anything right now, but I know the feeling... those moments when you know that you need to keep your mouth shut to do what we have learned here and it just flaps away in a moment of fuzzy control (anger/rage/stupidity) whatever it may be, but I think the mindfulness part of may come to help. I keep reading that meditation should help with that, but have yet to put that back into practice myself.

I know when I am lifting weights I can end up grunting or straining my face or breathe weird, I think those actions can be controlled. The next time our mouths want to say the wrong thing then it can be under our control and it can be stopped. I would think that we can have full control of our body and mind. That would be ideal, I'm pretty sure that's the goal.

Parting words, I wish your woman was as easy as mine is when it comes to all this Trump hysteria nonsense. Shes active online right now in debunking most of that. I got lucky there.

[–]GargantuaBlarg29Red Beret 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I didn't respond to that.

When she starts dictating to you the terms of the relationship overtly, this is absolutely not the time to STFU. Silence is tacit acceptance here. I'd probably nuke that right there and say she can take or leave her sex as she may, she decides what to bring into the relationship, I'll decide if it's worth my time.

 

Czech/German/Austrian plates from my 20s who are waiting to get started again.

A little butthurt here? Sounds like "oh yeah? Well other people want me I'll show you."

 

This whole relationships blowing up over politics thing is stupid. The problem isn't that western women have a strong opinion. Hell I like seeing a fire in mine. But the base fact remains: If you think I'm your enemy...there's the door. I'm not supplicating myself for access to your pussy over political beliefs.

[–]sh0ckley[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

nuke that right there and say she can take or leave her sex as she may, she decides what to bring into the relationship, I'll decide if it's worth my time.

I've gone that route previously with great success in different circumstances. However the intensity of this event threw me off balance and my failure snowballed - including the missed opportunity you disclose.

A little butthurt here? Sounds like "oh yeah? Well other people want me I'll show you."

I'll take it. "Sounds like" being the qualifier of failure, at least I did not verbalize this at the time.

If you think I'm your enemy...there's the door. I'm not supplicating myself for access to your pussy over political beliefs.

You are correct. I've experienced huge gains with this approach in other areas and other responders as well have revealed that: I still give too many fucks about this topic and need to approach it as I would any other shit. Thanks.

[–]UEMcGillI am become McGill, Destroyer of Blue Pill 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why do you give a fuck what she thinks? She wants to get all nutty over stupid shit like politics, and get all emotional over it at a nice dinner?

"Awe honey, that's cute you're angry... You should go to one of those protests that seem to be working so well"

Your problem isn't that she has a political identity, it's that you care what she thinks. Your mission is your purpose, and while she may be the first officer, her advice is taken with a grain of salt.

You could have diffused this by just acknowledging her, "Ah babe, it's ok you have those feelings. I'm fine with it, but sometimes we're going to disagree. That's ok right?" Spin her hamster up with cognitive dissonance and let it do the work.

[–]sh0ckley[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck. Yes. I'm so grateful for MRP, where not only can men point out my areas of weakness but where I've learned to become strong enough to accept it without self pity or righteousness.

The point about cognitive dissonance is solid.

Conclusion: -Too many of my fucks were given. -Choose my fucks wisely.

[–]cholomiteMod / BP Downvote Magnet 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Trump shit tests are definitely on the rise. I've been getting them from my girl, as well as most females at my job.

When it comes to your girl, why do you give a fuck? She's not going to leave you for a male feminist. Be as big an asshole as you want about trump. Your problem is that you're giving too many fucks.

When it comes to the women at my work, I'm a little more tactful about being an asshole because I don't want to get HR'd.

[–]Coniferous_88 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agree 100%...Trump shit tests are way up... Interesting thing I've noticed though, and I wonder if anyone else has noticed this- Pro-Trump women seem to be very outspoken about their approval, its like they want you to know that they like Trump.

[–]sh0ckley[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

When it comes to your girl, why do you give a fuck?

I haven't given fucks since I realized how pointless political discussions are, but there was something more extreme about this incident that I can't quite describe.

She's not going to leave you for a male feminist.

Of course not, but I don't want to instigate a similar scenario. Nor do I want to see much of this again which leads to...

Your problem is that you're giving too many fucks.

You are probably correct and that's as good a place as any to start. I will level up DGAF in this area.

[–]stonepimpletilistsMod / Red Beret 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Walk it through. I just gave a post on fearing the boogeyman.

What is the nefarious consequence?

[–]sh0ckley[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What is the nefarious consequence?

Nothing I wouldn't be able to handle.

And right here is the point I missed: unwarranted fucks given are the result of unseen fear.

[–]sh0ckley[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

When it comes to your girl, why do you give a fuck?

I haven't given fucks since I realized how pointless political discussions are but there was something different about this incident that I can't quite describe.

She's not going to leave you for a male feminist.

Of course not but I don't want to instigate any of this again (to the extent I have control over media brainwashing) nor do I want to see more of it, which leads to...

Your problem is that you're giving too many fucks.

You are probably correct and that's as a good a place as any to start. I will level up on DGAF in this area. Thanks.

[–]Gallbladder_Summoner 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

...but there was something different about this incident that I can't quite describe."

 

At a swanky joint where you've reported getting solid passive dread through waitresses hitting on you, which presumably have turned into minor shit tests, which you passed, and helped get you laid.

Perhaps I'm misreading some of this, but i wonder if it was the personal nature of the attack from her, combined with what may very well be a covert contract wherein you expected to get softballs and turn them into sex because you've done it in this scenario before.

Has she pulled this sort of feminist bullshit previously? That could be the curveball you weren't expecting, because "she's not like those people."

[–]sh0ckley[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

A logical hypothesis but inapplicable.

She has not pulled anything so extreme before, and outside of her other family members is mostly non feminist.

Curveball? Yes.

[–]War2kali 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

May want to remind the boys and girls around you about certain social rules which have served humanity well:

  1. It's not polite to talk about politics or religion where there is any chance of disagreement.

  2. If you must talk about it, you can agree to disagree in a civil manner or see rule #1.

[–]smidevaek 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

are there any western women with minds that have not been brainwashed to be miserable while hating the hands that feed them, when it's easier to just be happy?

can vouch for the existence of western women who don't have simmering feminist hatred brewing in them?

You sound like you are living in a liberal bubble. There are plenty of women who are inclined to share your politics. Over 50% of white women voted for Trump. If you follow Milo Yiannopoulos on Facebook, you'll see many women voicing anti-feminist and anti-PC sentiments in the comments.

[–]nastynickdr 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Your response wasnt bad, but your frame sucks. You are caring too much about what she thinks. You are being 100% logical with an emotional woman. Give less fucks, STFU or A&A when she is bitching, decrease attention/affection/time when she is acting like a bitch. Reward her with dinners, attention and your presence when she deserves it. The problem here is that she doesnt respect you, hence the bitchiness and the "you should tolerate my bitchness because I fuck you". She doesnt see you as a high quality man, or she wouldnt do that. You should read this as "You should be thankful that I fuck you, because no one else would". Work on increasing your value, work on becoming more attractive, lifting, reading the sidebar, etc.

[–]sh0ckley[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Iron Rule 1, 7 may apply here. She knows other women would fuck me. I wonder if I have to do it so she knows I would.

[–]RedPillRisingFromAsh 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Then I fucked up and DEERed a single sentence: I am not able to feel guilt over things I have no control over.

No you didn't. Where is it written we have to listen to their Social Justice Warriorism and Gynocentrism the whole time? I don't want to hear it personally.

State your belief and people can get fucked if it hurts their "feelz"

In my mind, it's just a covert contract to listen to their shit (for sex as she pointed out reinforcing my point)

[–]sh0ckley[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No you didn't.

You are not the first to declare that statement as "the DEER that wasn't." Valuable feedback.

State your belief

I do this almost to the point where backfires in certain situations. Timing is among the 48 Laws that I must master.

it's just a covert contract

If I were to expend patience with the expectation of sex (which is clearly her strategy) then yes it would be a covert contract. But all of this brings me back to my core lesson:

Too many fucks were given and underneath those fucks is unwarranted fear of nothing I couldn't handle - the boogeyman.

[–]470_2_700_nm 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Arriving at home, she said I should tolerate her bitchiness because she gives me sex.

I would remove my presence for a good while. This is intolerable IMO. This comment just smells. I honestly think I would look at my wife, ask her to repeat what she just said, and if she repeated it I would turn and walk out the door for a while.

Easy for me to say from afar, but I would next this bitch.

Not being from the states but being close, I'll say this: Trump being elected is inducing shit tests all over the world. I hope it is signalling America's ending of this continued barrage on Manhood.

The question I got asked by my wife after the election was "did they actually elect that guy" and my answer was "yes" and inside I thought "and I know why". That is as far as the conversation went.

[–]Pinelero 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

the whole anti trump post inauguration spectacle was just pointless. Protesting a projection of their fears, which are based upon their own hetrophobia, misandric, anti white bigotry. I didn't watch any of it except for U tube highlights. Not all women were down with this spectacle and the Msm portrayal of that is highly misleading. It would have been meaningful, if they marched for something substantive like family law reform, shared parenting rights, dv law reforms.

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Arriving at home, she said I should tolerate her bitchiness because she gives me sex.

PERFECT time to take her up on the offer. "That's a lot of bitchiness to make up for sweety. What do you have in mind?"

On the rest, tell her to fuck off. We are going to make America great again with or without her help. Men have been shit on for way to long and it is time to stand up.

Want some inspiration? Read The Book of Zed and start listening to MGTOW videos on your computer where she can hear. I like Turd Flinging Monkey and Bearing.

[–]sh0ckley[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

start listening to MGTOW videos on your computer where she can hear.

I lol'd at this. Look forward to listening. Thanks.

[–][deleted] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Went out for a nice dinner

Boring

My options are:

How about c), just start flirting around, spinning some plates, see where that gets you and how she reacts. If there are no kids I would not sweat about it.

She sounds like a fascistic feminist, but then again, I don't get the whole "march" thing... what's the problem? grabbing them by the pussy? Most of those bitches would have a huge splash down there if somebody like trump grabbed them. But they are shisophrenic about it and there's no point discussing it at all.

[–]sh0ckley[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Boring

Ya sounds it from my description. It's actually one of the places where IOI from the waitresses has yielded solid dread.

no point discussing it at all

Yeah that's my take away from the interaction.