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[–]dIoIIoIb 1899 ポイント1900 ポイント  (20子コメント)

Trump would fit perfectly in an old x-men story, he looks like the kind of guy that would love to waste billions building giant purple robots to "protect true americans"

[–]BreakingGarrickNightwing[S] 642 ポイント643 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Pence would be a better fit.

[–]The_Gay_WhovianQuake 1303 ポイント1304 ポイント  (1子コメント)

[–]BreakingGarrickNightwing[S] 339 ポイント340 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yooo, that's perfect.

[–]closetsquirrelHawkeye 398 ポイント399 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I'm not sure how Pence feels about this, to be honest. He sent out a tweet in 2015 saying that barring Middle Eastern refugees would be unconstitutional and unAmerican.

edit: Not necessarily defending Pence on all matters, just to clarify.

[–]BreakingGarrickNightwing[S] 228 ポイント229 ポイント  (2子コメント)

How people change...

[–]effin-d 251 ポイント252 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Especially when you dangle a high-ranking political office in front of them.

[–]JordoomAquaman 94 ポイント95 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not uncommon for VPs to disagree with their president. Historically, the winner of the election was the president and the runner-up was a VP. I doubt Pence "changed". I don't endorse all the same things my boss does, either.

[–]lancebaldwin 81 ポイント82 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Substitute Trumps islamophobia with Pences homophobia.

[–]closetsquirrelHawkeye 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think the image loses a little something when it's Midnighter sitting on a bed crying. :)

[–]lancebaldwin 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Midnighter

Lmao, I wasn't meaning the op picture. I was talking about the post saying Trump would fit in an X-Men story as the traditional phobic politician. Pence would fit easily as well because of the parallels of his homophobia with mutantphobia.

That's a hilarious image I have in my head now of Midnighter though.

[–]CyberNinjaZeroCaptain Marvel 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well it would be constitutional since that only applies to citizens but it's definitely UnAmerican

Then again it is also perfectly American to undermine the constitution

[–]_What_am_i_Moon Knight 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Pence would probably try to use conversion therapy to convert mutants to humans

[–]CyberNinjaZeroCaptain Marvel 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

instead of electricity he would use Terrigen Gas

[–]Hot_Donald 41 ポイント42 ポイント  (0子コメント)

His henchmen would ironically be named Nasty Woman and Bad Hombre.

[–]MisterDarcyType 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

God Loves, Man Kills kind-of-type.

[–]SmokinDynamite 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or the Fantastic 4. Look up "the hate monger". It ends with the heroes being unsure if the gut was litterally hitler or just a clone. Great stuff.

[–]Fatburg 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Trump = William Stryker

[–]Orthodox-Waffle 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

remember that guy who turned into a blob in the movies? perfect role.

[–]r0cx89Immortal Iron Fist 1192 ポイント1193 ポイント  (7子コメント)

This has more emotion then all of Civil war II. Great stuff.

[–]daymanahaha 167 ポイント168 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Civil War 2???

[–]r0cx89Immortal Iron Fist 352 ポイント353 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah it was garbage. Just hot garbage.

[–]dart22 222 ポイント223 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It was both overbroad and went on for too long.

I'm a grown man with a career, and I couldn't justify keeping up with everything cash-wise or time-wise. I can't imagine what some kid just getting into the hobby would've done. It was also way too spread out. Six months was too long, and you could tell because some of the comics were already assuming that the event ended three or four months in. They did not organize it well.

It's jarring how neat and tidy DC events usually are, and even Marvel cinematics and TV, but how poorly done this was.

[–]r0cx89Immortal Iron Fist 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Could not have said it better myself.

[–]ptoros7Hellboy 93 ポイント94 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You should read it, if only to understand that Civil War II is what Marvel thinks we all want out of comics now. To have plot lines of regular runs disturbed every few months with crossover events for the sake of crossover events... Comics raising pseudo-philosophical points to make the audience feel smart but never actually delving into the conflict or resolving it through dialogue. The whole Hawkeye/Hulk thing was just to tug on imaginary heart strings with no basis in the story...

Not to mention the heroes never even try to talk it out. They are the good guys god damn it. They are supposed to be better than that. Goes without saying but these are just my opinions.

[–]BreakingGarrickNightwing[S] 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ha ha, true.

[–]notmyname 197 ポイント198 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Great image, but...who is the character? I'm not familiar.

[–]closetsquirrelHawkeye 499 ポイント500 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Kamala Khan, aka the current Ms. Marvel. Currently the most prolific Muslim character in the Marvel comic universe.

[–]BreakingGarrickNightwing[S] 106 ポイント107 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ms. Marvel.

[–]CynclMetron 807 ポイント808 ポイント  (16子コメント)

The Captain America plushie on the floor really makes this such an intense moment. Freedom, Hope, and Protection lying on the floor.

[–]pigeieio 188 ポイント189 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Making him a Nazi seemed like such a bad idea, and now, it's scary just how well it fits with what's going on.

If they knew we where going this way in advance I wish they would have given us a heads up.

[–]Hot_Donald 178 ポイント179 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's powerful because even with all her power she feels powerless.

[–]FinnTheHumahnSpider-Man 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Looking at the picture I never even saw it that way, nice analysis. Stuff like that flies over my head often lol.

[–]BreakingGarrickNightwing[S] 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well said.

[–]vivvavDeadmod[M] 744 ポイント745 ポイント  (11子コメント)

To the person who reported this for "/r/politics":

Political posts are not disallowed on this subreddit so long as they are civil.

[–]bob1689321Batman 186 ポイント187 ポイント  (2子コメント)

as long as they are civil

This is reddit. This thread will be a shitshow within 6 hours.

[–]princeofropes 107 ポイント108 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is reddit. This thread will be a shitshow within 20 minutes

ftfy

[–]vivvavDeadmod 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I ain't denyin' it.

[–]The_SvenVictor Mancha 300 ポイント301 ポイント  (3子コメント)

But what if I disagree with it? Can I report it then? I don't like being shown things that I disagree with.

How about things that are a reflection of what I already believe are allowed but things that present a differing opinion are removed? That seems fair.

[–]JonnTheMartianMartian Manhunter 141 ポイント142 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't like being shown things I disagree with

Welcome to America.

[–]NiyeauxAquaman 152 ポイント153 ポイント  (1子コメント)

All art is political.

[–]shlomo_bagginsImpulse 110 ポイント111 ポイント  (0子コメント)

especially Marvel comics I mean c'mon.

[–]DLuX94 -196 ポイント-195 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Except the mods control what gets seen or not so only the things you agree with make it, and those things are always the more leftist, liberal view that the collective internet and Reddit mind conforms towards. So the right opinion isn't allowed for being "offensive or too political" but the left is always allowed. Let's not lie to ourselves we know that's true. Don't even try to argue.

Chances are this will be removed for speaking out against the leftist censorship bullshit

[–]vivvavDeadmod[M] 291 ポイント292 ポイント  (0子コメント)

People don't really submit rightwing stuff here, at least not as posts. Those opinions get shared and downvoted in the comments, but that's not something we the mods can really control.

There's not a conspiracy here. I'm not pretending that liberal isn't the trend here, I've stated as much in the past. People here just are liberal, and that's the kind of content they submit, and people tend to up/downvote that agrees/disagrees with their views.

If you've got a piece of fan art you wanna share that doesn't unfairly malign any groups that has a conservative political view, we won't remove it. But I can't promise it will be successful. It probably won't be. And that's just out of our control as mods entirely.

The moderators don't make /r/comicbooks what it is. The users do. We are not some shadowy cabal dedicated to silencing certain groups. We're just try to do things to fit the direction the community wants to go.

[–]JLipariRaphael 681 ポイント682 ポイント  (17子コメント)

Give me your weak, your tired, your poor... pending they aren't very brown.

[–]cubs1917 150 ポイント151 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I happen to know Sana Amanat and her family. Just sent her this. Both great and sad at the same time.

[–]BreakingGarrickNightwing[S] 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What did she say?

[–]cubs1917 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Once i hear ill let you know! I love it personally.

[–]Dookie_boy 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Who ?

[–]buzzbros2002Scott Pilgrim 84 ポイント85 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sana Amanat

The creator of Kamela Khan's character.

[–]nubosisM.O.D.O.K. 215 ポイント216 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It took me a second for this image to really sink into me how sad this is. This girl loves being a hero, wants to help, and her country tells her she's not wanted. That's awful. I've been against this executive order from the get go, but 30 something year old white guy like failed to think how this must feel to an otherwise happy Muslim kid going about their day. Don't worry Kamala, the battle's not over yet.

[–]TheSwampDwellerAnimal Man 200 ポイント201 ポイント  (4子コメント)

[–]AshybuttonsShe-Hulk 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (1子コメント)

America Chavez just looks like she's rocking out in the second one.

[–]CyberNinjaZeroCaptain Marvel 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

When isn't she?

[–]Dakar-AIron Man 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Peggy Carter is hilarious in that second one- "Can't believe I have to protest this shit again"

[–]closetsquirrelHawkeye 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I love Noto's work, and that picture is amazing.

[–]CFGXBatman 64 ポイント65 ポイント  (13子コメント)

There's a logical break somewhere between the reaction to the TV and the Captain Marvel poster.

[–]rubygeekThanos 123 ポイント124 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Keep in mind that Captain Marvel is/was a close friend to her up until Civil War II, and her conflict with Captain Marvel is explicitly down to concerns over civil rights. Tearing down pictures of people who used to be dear to you is the first thing some people do, and the last thing other people do when conflicts arise.

[–]BreakingGarrickNightwing[S] 84 ポイント85 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Kamala is right when it came to CWII matters. Carol wasn't being logical. She was character assassinated during that series.

[–]rubygeekThanos 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (7子コメント)

She wasn't being logical, and I agree - I hated that they wrote her that way - but her motivation is losing a person she love under and operation that was relatively uncontroversial (stopping Thanos is not a civil rights issue...) and her general Law and Order fetish and military background.... But they executed it horribly - they badly needed more time to show her struggling with it but getting more and more reasons to support it so it was a natural progression. Not "oh, I'm heartbroken, let's suspend civil rights".

[–]feor1300 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I didn't read the main "Civil War II" book, but I read a number of the tie-ins just as part of my regular monthly pull, and in those she seems quite logical. She acknowledges that she could easily end up in Minority Report territory, works with everyone she can to minimize the damage it could do to civil rights, is disinclined to arrest anyone based purely on Ulysses visions, but instead tries to use them as a jumping off point to figure out who she should be investigating. IF she can find something to arrest them for before the vision happens she will, if she can't she'll just monitor them to minimize response time to the crime when it does happen. And in at least a couple of the books part of her thought process was revealed as "Ulysses exists, the genie's out of the bottle, and at least I know I'm trying to do the right thing with it."

Honestly, her biggest flaw in the tie-ins is failing to accept that in trying to prevent these crimes from happening she often ends up being the catalyst that causes the crime to happen.

I might pick up the primary storyline in TPB when it comes out, just for the curiosity of seeing the contrast between the tie-ins and the way she apparently behaves in those central books.

[–]rubygeekThanos 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is part of the problem as well. I haven't read all of the tieins, but she's all over the place relative to the main story line, and she is also extremely confrontational instead of trying to find alternatives. There's this recurring issue of her wording herself in ways that regardless of what arrangement she might be willing to accept makes it sound like she wants to throw people in a cell.

My biggest issue vis-a-vis Minority Report is that one issue that even Minority Report does not address is that if interfering prevents something to happen, it is irrelevant that not interfering means it would have happened, as that means we do not have free will, and people do not have any meaningful moral responsibility for what they would have done. That also means that regardless of what happens if you interfere, then if you interfere then that is what always would have happened, and hence these people are innocent.

Where there are arguments to interfere, that very intererence would be evidence the crime would never take place, and hence the interference itself would need to take into account that you're interfering with someone who is and always will be innocent of that potential crime.

It first only becomes even potentially moral to punish people (as opposed to taking reasonable means to prevent the crime) once the method is not foolproof, but that at the same time means that anywher from some to most of your punishment will involve punishing people who'd never carry out a crime.

And that ought to mean you never do more than try to prevent the crime without stepping all over peoples rights, and should be something that you should've needed a very convincing reason for Carol not to accept, especially given the huge power she has to her disposal, which means there are exceedingly few threats she would realistically be unable to contain or have her people contain

[–]feor1300 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And that ought to mean you never do more than try to prevent the crime without stepping all over peoples rights, and should be something that you should've needed a very convincing reason for Carol not to accept,

And (at least in the tie-ins) that's what we see her do. In the main Captain marvel book she gets warned that an old depowered supervillain was going to regain his powers and go on a rampage. So she goes with the local cops just to have a talk with him, and finds that he still had the thing that originally gave him his powers, which he believed to be inert, but having it was a violation of his parole, so they arrest him for that, not for the rampage he was going to go on (that pays off in a twist very much like the end of Minority Report, and gives that villain a good chance to redeem himself).

We also see them fighting a guy who had been possessed by one of the Great Beasts in Canada. The Canadian representative is incensed that they didn't detain him as soon as Ulysses had his vision about that happening, and Captain Marvel defended the decision saying the man had done nothing wrong, he had no criminal history, just some mental illness that he was treating with medication. So instead of arresting him for something he might do, she put him under observation, so when it did happen they were able to stop him before he hurt anybody.

In Agents of Shield Ulysses saw the Wrecking crew destroying the Brooklyn Bridge and killing Daredevil in the process, and she basically works backwards from his vision to find the wrecking crew and arrests them for... well, the Wrecking Crew's bound to have something outstanding they're wanted for (unfortunately the paddy wagon's route took them across the Brooklyn Bridge just as Daredevil was coming the other way...).

The only time I saw her even kind of want to detain someone purely based on Ulysses visions is in A-Force, where he had a vision of Nico killing a young woman, and Carol asked her to stay in the SHIELD hospital they were in (visiting She-Hulk post-Thanos) until they could figure out what was going on. Nico freaks out that she's being arrested (though I don't think Carol ever said she wouldn't let her leave, but I'd have to re-read it to be sure) and teleports to a safehouse (that happens to lead her direct to the young woman from the vision).

So yeah, she didn't (in my reading) seem to have any interest in punishing people for things they might do, and more a desire to try and prevent them from doing things they would need to be punished for.

[–]BreakingGarrickNightwing[S] 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I don't think they should've let Bendis write the story. Maybe someone else like Jeff Lemire would've done a better job?

[–]rubygeekThanos 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Maybe. Also perhaps it would have been better to start the event later - have a longer build-up in Captain Marvel or A-Force (to get the Medusa hook-up to Ulysses) to build up her reason to be blind with rage... Show her starting to step over some boundaries before they tried creating the wider conflict in that little space.

[–]BreakingGarrickNightwing[S] 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They obviously did it to tie in the movie.

[–]srwaddict 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That would imply that marvel Can wait on their Next Huge Event that Changes Everything. They keep cranking them out faster and faster over the years.

[–]KingGorilla 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

What series is this storyline in? Would like to read

[–]rubygeekThanos 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Civil War II, with crossover to pretty much everything, and a bunch of Civil War: [insert here/group/corny slogan here] tie-ins.

There's a list here.

It's basically about an Inhuman that seems to have visions of future crimes and disasters, and how it splits the supeheroes again.

It's weak sauce - they make the arguments against very, very poorly, when the simplest argument against that type of predictive justice they if they are successful, they are showing that the visions are not fact but one possible future.

They equally weakly deal with the counter-argument, that someone with the IQ of Tony Stark should have made immediatey: When the pro-intervention people hail successes like Thanos, he should have pointed out that those are uncontroversial. Thanos is a supervillain that they would have fought on the basis of his presence, without waiting for him to break the law. Likewise, while what happens to Hulk (spoilers) is bad, intervening should not have been controversial.

Starks response to "but Thanos" should have been that "sure, intervene when the mere presence of someone in the visions is bad - if you're wrong and they don't' show up, no harm has been done, and if they do show up that itself is enough reason to act. Do the same for anything sufficiently bad: show up. Then wait for evidence of something bad. The problem is arresting an innocent without even giving them the chance."

The issue for the "good guys" should not have been the method overall - but what happens as it turns from being prepared to stop threats to incarcerating people who are not yet criminals, and conveniently ignoring that the arrest prevents the crime from happening.

The counter again should be that some things may be too risky do wait to see if someone does something wrong, such as e.g. waiting to see if someone has a bomb.

Instead the arguments are all weak attempts that doesn't explore the issues at all.

But part of the problem, I suspect, is that if both sides had made good arguments, then Carol's side would likely end up looking too much like comic-book-nazis, as you can find compromises to most of these situations that protect civil rights, unless the "bad guys" insist on punishment with prison sentences etc. or other extreme measures against someone who never commits a crime.

So either you resolve the conflict, or half the Marvel heroes come out looking like wannabe nazis, or you cop out and make the arguments unreasonably weak so that it's possible to make Carol and her supporters misguided rather than evil.

As it was, Kamala did have to deal with a little Hitlerjugend style group, and even that they botched in having the characters be staggeringly bad in arguing the points.

If you want a good story about predictive justice, I'd say watch Minority Report the movie and/or read Philip K. Dicks original short story (they are very different) - Civil War II is not it.

EDIT: Accidentally the name of Minority Report.

[–]BreakingGarrickNightwing[S] 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

CWII, but it's a terrible story line. Would not recommend.

[–]Hot_Donald 54 ポイント55 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I would love to hang this in my house. It feels so personal.

[–]Saltoverload 293 ポイント294 ポイント  (19子コメント)

Can anyone explain pretty please? Muslim ban? Is it about the immigration ban to America for some countries? Or have I missed something.

EDIT: Thanks for the downvotes,Im studying for my final exams in first semester, sorry I dont keep up with the news everyday and dont know everything, you entitled pricks.

[–]TremodianMister Natural 111 ポイント112 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, it is referencing that.

[–]closetsquirrelHawkeye 159 ポイント160 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Quick summary: Trump put a ban on all people coming from six Middle Eastern countries, including those with US visas and green cards. However, there is a caveat in that religious minorities of those countries are exempt, meaning basically a large majority of Muslims are not allowed in.

[–]slithymonsterSkinner Sweet 130 ポイント131 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also exempt are Muslims from countries where Trump has business interests, including Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, and Egypt. The 9/11 hijackers and Bin Laden were from Saudi Arabia. So even if Trump thought it was a good idea to ban Muslims, he put his own financial interests ahead of the country. Lose-lose all around.

[–]tgrdem 88 ポイント89 ポイント  (7子コメント)

It's a little more than an immigration ban. Trump signed in an excutive order stopping immigration from those countries. People who had green cards or visas in America were also being stopped from going home (I believe the federal court just made a ruling to give these particular people 90 days to come home. I could be wrong here.) On top of that he also made it clear Christians would still be accepted as refugees. Hence it not just being a ban to those countries but specifically to Muslims. I'll try to source this info. I'll edit my post in a bit.

Edit: Source about the initial refugee hault https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/514844/?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us

Cases of Visa Holders Being Detained https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/01/28/politics/donald-trump-travel-ban/index.html?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us

Trump on Prioritizing Christians https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/01/27/politics/trump-christian-refugees/index.html?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us

Green Card Holders: Case by Case Basis http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-29/us-green-card-holders-donald-trump-order/8220838?pfmredir=sm

[–]finnyliciousJohn Prophet 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Yes, they have been given 90 days to come home, because the ban itself is only set to last for 90 days. Once those 90 days are up the restrictions are lifted for everyone, so there's no need to allow citizens special return privileges past that point.

[–]tgrdem 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Weird everywhere I'm reading says 120 days for the ban.

Source: https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/97183112/?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us

Edit: Yeah I just skimmed a summary of the ban. It is 120 days.

[–]finnyliciousJohn Prophet 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's 90 days minimum, 120 days maximum.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/27/politics/donald-trump-refugees-executive-order/index.html

Since his administration has stated that US citizens are being given 90 day return privileges, it only makes sense to assume that the ban will be lifted after 90 days.

It would make no logical sense to ban people who didn't come back in the first 90 days for the 30 days between day 90 and day 120.

[–]tgrdem 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah, that makes sense.

Though I do feel like you're putting a lot of faith in logic in a time where it feels like most people aren't logical.

[–]cazamumba 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Wait... if the whole thing becomes moot in 90 days, what was the point in the first place? What's this dude trying to accomplish?

Suspicious.

[–]Sycopathy 53 ポイント54 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's an interim policy whilst the government forms new immigration procedures to take effect after the blanket ban period apparently.

[–]finnyliciousJohn Prophet 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My guess, it's Trump's tacit way of appeasing the people who voted for him on the platform of a Muslim ban.

I can't imagine James Mattis or Mike Pence would have had good things to say about a muslim ban -- since Pence believes it unconstitutional, and Mattis believed similar proposed programs to be unamerican -- so this is probably all Trump's going to be doing on this front, and is most likely just to release some pressure from his more hardcore right-wing supporters.

EDIT - I understand that it's an interim policy, but there were much less inflammatory ways of doing that. This, specifically, was partly to appease a certain demographic.

EDIT EDIT - I'm also not defending this executive order.

[–]pigeieio 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, also that he signed the order that effectively bans us taking in refuges on the day to remember the Holocaust, it was meant to send a very specific message.

[–]chornuJoker 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Powerful. Really well done.

[–]BreakingGarrickNightwing[S] 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The artist did a great job with this.

[–]housesorhice 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (14子コメント)

I don't get it.

[–]closetsquirrelHawkeye 50 ポイント51 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Said this in another reply:

Kamala Khan, aka the current Ms. Marvel. Currently the most prolific Muslim character in the Marvel comic universe.

[–]BreakingGarrickNightwing[S] 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (12子コメント)

It relates to the recent immigration ban ordered by Trump.

[–]housesorhice 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (11子コメント)

I don't follow marvel very closely, is she supposed to be captain america?

[–]Jazz_P9350 95 ポイント96 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Because Op has trouble understanding that some people are coming from /r/all

She's a muslim american that is the current Ms. Marvel.

[–]housesorhice 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you, I did come from /r/all

[–]BuynUltimate Spider-Man 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (2子コメント)

[–]housesorhice 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Is the comic referencing her heritage or is it stating that the visa suspension is inconsistent with her values?

Edit: What did I say to deserve these downvotes?

[–]the-worst 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (0子コメント)

she's Muslim. it's showing her sadness over how Trump's bullshit is affecting her family and her heritage, and likely her faith in this country.

[–]BreakingGarrickNightwing[S] 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (4子コメント)

No, she's not a Captain America.

[–]General_NothingTim Drake/Red Robin 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Why are you being downvoted? She's not a Captain America.

[–]BreakingGarrickNightwing[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm not sure. I guess some think she's a Captain America figure and disagree with me?

[–]poohmaobearRocketeer 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'd guess they just aren't happy that you said no she isn't and didn't say who she is?

[–]BreakingGarrickNightwing[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Probably.

[–]TheKrakenArises 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

She's Ms. Marvel, a book that came put last year? Two years ago? I can't remember, but it is very well written. I only read the first volume, but I enjoyed it greatly. Ms. Marvel is Muslim.