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Xbox Live Gold subscriptions increasing $10 to $69.99 in Canada beginning February 28th (self.Games)

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Microsoft has just begun sending the emails out to Canadian XBL users. Here is a screenshot of the email courtesy of /u/mofo_pig on /r/XboxOne.

I just want to remind everyone though that you can almost always find XBL subscriptions for $35-45 any time throughout the year on sale on numerous websites. There's really no reason to ever have to pay the full MSRP for either XBL or PS+.

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[–]Lived2PoopAnotherDay 106 ポイント107 ポイント  (29子コメント)

New to Xbox and gold. I see Costco has it cheaper for $53. What other websites should I be looking at? Cdkeys is currently higher than the regular price.

[–]DemonDeity 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It really depends on who's having a sale or deal at the time. Be sure to check out /r/XboxOne and /r/GreatXboxDeals on a regular basis.

[–]IHaveVariedInterests 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (14子コメント)

You can set up a deal alert on Slickdeals. And they'll send you emails when deals pop up.

[–]Jim3535 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (13子コメント)

This is the answer.

Back when I played xbox, some retailer like buy.com would always have it on sale for nearly half price about 4 times a year.

[–]TheMightestTaco 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (12子コメント)

No offense, but buy.com sounds shady af. Is it?

[–]TehGroff 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I used to buy from them when it was buy.com all the time and they were fine. Their new name, Rakuten, sounds dumb and shady. Never had a problem with them, but why they changed such a simple name is beyond me.

[–]ZekkPacus 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Rakuten is a Japanese company, they're legit.

They did the same in the UK - bought out play.com who at one point were competing with Amazon for UK marketshare. They turned it into an online marketplace, and now it's branded as Rakuten.co.uk and I can't remember the last time I went there, it's now an affiliate portal rather than an e-commerce site.

[–]TehGroff 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Did not know that, thanks!

[–]ProfDoctorMrSaibot 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rakuten is legit, they are even making ads on local TV here

[–]picflute 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rakuten is the Japanese Amazon.

[–]TheMightestTaco 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe they sold the name?

[–]hangas 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rakuten is the biggest e-commerce company in Japan, they are extremely legit and they purchased Buy.com in 2010 in an effort to expand overseas.

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    [–]GentleObsession 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If you're Canadian RedFlagDeals Hot Deals forums are a good place to check now and then.

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      [–]dbcanuck 364 ポイント365 ポイント  (108子コメント)

      Microsoft has resisted increasing the pricing on most of their products, despite Canada dropping from parity with the USD @ Xbox One launch to $0.76 today.

      This should not come as a surprise. If anything, Microsoft has been lenient toward Canadian retail.

      Might be a good time to snag one or two annual subscriptions for $59.99 though to keep in a drawer somewhere.

      [–]collectingsubreddits 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      This is what I'll likely do. Just go buy a on-sale card at the moment from a vendor and just add it to the account early.

      [–]Larkas 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (15子コメント)

      Sony increases his plus prices. Fucking scumbags

      Microsoft increases his gold prices. They were actually doing as a favour all of this years.

      [–]justignoremeplzz 53 ポイント54 ポイント  (11子コメント)

      I'd just rather not pay any kind of subscription fee to play games

      [–]DoctorWaluigiTime 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I didn't see the person you replied to say anything about Sony.

      [–]Python_l 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Canadian dollars still worth 25% less than US dollar so it still seems like it is cheaper than in most regions.

      [–]Trucidar 61 ポイント62 ポイント  (73子コメント)

      It was grossly overpriced at $60, so no, I don't think it's justified. Everything is chock full of ads and multiplayer support doesn't even work anymore on some games.

      [–]42prime 70 ポイント71 ポイント  (36子コメント)

      Which games does multiplayer not work on?

      [–]GreatWhite000 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      There's still ads? I left my 360 for the PS4/PC, but one of the things I hated the most about the 360 was the amount of ads that the system took the time to load. At least they aren't as annoying/high in number on the PS4

      [–]Rfwill13 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      They aren't as crazy as the 360 Ads but they are still there and taking up far too much room.

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        [–]Darkeyescry22 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (15子コメント)

        What? Personally, I agree that the whole paying for multiplayer is stupid, but your reasons seem like pure nonsense.

        What ads are you talking about? The only ads I ever see, outside of the store, are a couple of tiles advertising deals with gold and stuff (just saved me about $40 on battle field 1, last week)

        And what games no longer work? I've never had significant issues getting a game to work.

        [–]Awesomebox5000 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (13子コメント)

        What ads are you talking about?

        75% of the UI is advertising in one form or another.

        [–]Trucidar 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I think people on here are mostly basing their opinions off Xbox One. Live is still just as expensive for 360 but is full of ads and games that don't work.

        [–]strenling 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (10子コメント)

        How is $5/mo overpriced? Some people spend more on that each day on their morning Starbucks run. And the fact that you get a free game (or games) every month, and deals for cheaper games, that's a pretty good deal.

        [–]wyratt14 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (6子コメント)

        Because you're paying for nothing. Microsoft doesn't run the servers, Microsoft doesn't run the ISP. They've successfully tricked people into paying them $60/yr to do absolutely nothing. You already pay for internet. Why the fuck does it make sense to pay for it twice?

        [–]CheezeyCheeze 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

        Don't they run the Xbox ecosystem? Like Xbox party chat, your player profile, unified across all games? I know Steam does the same. But they make more then Microsoft, so Steam decided to eat the cost. I guess Origin (EA) did the same thing? But those are some of the biggest companies in gaming.

        [–]wyratt14 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Profiles are pretty insignificant in terms of server demand. Voice chat isn't as much, but even then it doesn't cost them $70 a year. Probably about $5/user. Especially since they already have the servers in place for other things, so it's not like they have to spend a bunch of money to expand.

        [–]CheezeyCheeze 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I agree it doesn't cost them that much. You have a great point. But they are making money so I doubt they will ever give up free money.

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          [–]de_throni 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          The "free" games are not free. You pay the Gold sub to get them and they added them around 3-4 years ago. Before that you did get nothing except the ability to play online, send messages from xbox.com (not console only), do party chat and get some sales. And Steam has sales without having to pay for a sub. And you don't have to pay to play multiplayer.

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              [–]dskjdfnsb 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (5子コメント)

              This should not come as a surprise. If anything, Microsoft has been lenient toward Canadian retail.

              Yeah so lenient, and I'm sure they'll lower the prices should things ever get closer to parity just like they have in the past. Oh wait, they don't do that.

              [–]Ukumio 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (2子コメント)

              That's not true, in Australia when our dollar was stronger then US, our games went down to AU$80 or lower, sure its wasn't as good as US$60 but it was better then just keeping the MSRP at AU$100 which they're back to now.

              [–]CromulentPerson 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (1子コメント)

              They did do that. Are you too young to remember ten years ago? Price drops don't happen instantly, but when the Canadian dollar was stable at near parity, prices went down. As the dollar weakened (which is what a sizeable portion of Canadians wanted), prices went back up.

              [–]Darkeyescry22 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Of course they are. When compared to USD, this increase doesn't even cover the difference from when the console released.

              [–]omfgkevin 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Don't. Costco had them cheaper than that.

              [–]kelminak 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              What are you getting through the Xbox Live service that is actually worth that money?

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                [–]Bloodb47h 251 ポイント252 ポイント  (256子コメント)

                Though the initial cost of being a PC Gamer is much higher, I just get so irrationally upset when I hear about needing to pay additional money to play online and have basic internet functions that I'm used to using.

                I don't want to hate on consoles just don't nickel and dime me to death if I want to buy one.

                E: I have a PS4 without PS+.

                [–]MIKE_BABCOCK 126 ポイント127 ポイント  (110子コメント)

                see, I'd be fine with paying for a good service, but 90% of the games we play these days are hosted on fucking peer to peer. The voice quality is terrible, the sales are garbage, there are ads fucking everywhere (on xbox) and games that cost money to play on console are free on PC so like what are they actually paying for?

                [–]strifeisback 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (35子コメント)

                That's a problem with developers.

                Microsoft and Sony's services are hosted on dedicated servers, and they have to be paid for.

                [–]MIKE_BABCOCK 122 ポイント123 ポイント  (27子コメント)

                So are steams servers and origins servers yet you don't have to pay a monthly fee for those.

                You're essentially paying money for the right to use the internet on your console. It boggles my mind that people are fine with it. It's so awkward when I go to place Forza on my xbox and I realise that I literally can't play Forza online on one platform for completely arbitrary reasons lol

                Mad props to Sony and MSFT for pulling it off. It's basically a free revenue stream.

                [–]DoctorWaluigiTime 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                And now Nintendo's getting in on the game too. Honestly I think because the other Japanese console giant (Sony) caved and did it.

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                  [–]grarghll 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  Sure, it's a developer problem, but Xbox Live Gold is expensive. With 48 million subscribers, that's in the neighborhood of 2.88 billion dollars yearly.

                  You'd think, with that kind of subscription money, they'd have the developers under contract to sustain servers for enough years to justify the service. That is apparently not the case, Microsoft is just pocketing it.

                  [–]SFHalfling 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  48m*$60 is not $4.88billion in any world, and that's ignoring any revenue going to stores on physical card sales, and regional prices.

                  Even if they got 100% of the money it would be $2.8 billion (as your linked article states) , but I'd be surprised if the revenue was much above $1 billion.

                  Which is a lot, but there's no need to invent figures to try and make it look worse.

                  [–]Scarmander 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  60$ a year is expensive now?

                  [–]sharkwouter 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  But you buy your games from them, they don't need the extra money. Even for physical copies they get money.

                  [–]Ioseliani 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Microsoft hosts XBL on the unused part of Azure. The marginal cost to them is next to nothing. Costs are similarly low for Sony. Sony and Microsoft charge gamers simply because they can.

                  [–]rookie-mistake 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  you get 2 free games a month on top of the online service

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                    [–]James_bd 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Paying for online features is the biggest ripoff of the gaming industry. Yet, people not only support it, but they justify it. Pretty insulting when you pay full price for a game and only have access to a portion of it. That's why I'm done with consoles.

                    [–]Ceccoso1 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Also the games are much more expensive. Being a console gamer is just more expensive.

                    [–]splader 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Tbh, the games with gold sort of make the entire thing worth it for me. Not really so much that I find the value of the games amazing, but that it's slowly building up my library for something that I got for 3000 (back before they added another 0) Bing points.

                    I mean heck, I've always wanted to play Force Unleashed, and even though I could have bought it for around 10 or so dollars, having them make it part of GwG saved me that money.

                    [–]ImAnIronmanBtw 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    only reason why i dont own a console anymore

                    [–]rajikaru 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (20子コメント)

                    If it wasn't for the console exclusive games, I could almost guarantee that the trend would have died before it could kick off. I fucking hated paying ~$20 a month (I never bought year-long subs) to access online multiplayer, but it was worth it for Halo Reach.

                    [–]BabyPuncher5000 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    Xbox Live has never been even close to $20 a month.

                    [–]youre_real_uriel 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    It's not an ideal solution, but I've resigned myself to watching console exclusives on youtube. There are "movie" cuts for most popular games. It only works for story-driven games, but I haven't found a non-story-driven console exclusive that I cared too much about missing.

                    [–]Marlon64 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    To be honest outside of Naughty Dog games, most exclusive titles are very quickly forgoten.

                    [–]Micolash 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (13子コメント)

                    I fucking hated paying ~$20 a month (I never bought year-long subs) to access online multiplayer

                    Well that's really your own fault. Why in gods name would you pay $20 a month when a full year is almost always $35?

                    [–]rajikaru 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (12子コメント)

                    They were $50 at the time, and I was a kid with minimum wage parents and no job so maybe they could only scrounge up enough to get me one month of gold at a time, if I was that lucky? Maybe that's why? I guess I'm just an idiot though for not having a job at 14 years old.

                    [–]TehRhawb 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    On the bright side, there haven't been too many worthwhile console exclusives this generation - especially multiplayer focused exclusives. I cancelled my PSN and XBL subs about 6 months ago and haven't missed them at all yet.

                    [–]DoctorWaluigiTime 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    For the longest time Nintendo + PC was my ideal combo. It still will be, though playing Nintendo online probably won't happen much.

                    (And before people start pointing out the shortcomings of Nintendo's online, I felt the gameplay aspect was smooth and worked perfectly.)

                    [–]Broccoman 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    This is why the PS3 was my last console. I was even willing to give up my favorite genre to not pay this junk fee.

                    [–]ghostkyle 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (32子コメント)

                    It doesn't have to be higher, I helped my friend build a decent pc out of old parts and sales that was just under 500 bucks, and can play games at a higher quality that both of the consoles.

                    [–]altAcctD 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (30子コメント)

                    $500 is a significantly higher initial cost than getting a console, which you can get for under $300. I think it's definitely worth it, and a smart person can certainly save money in the long run (not me, I buy expensive as hell computers), but you aren't going to get a decent PC for the same initial price as a console.

                    [–]Jbluna 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (11子コメント)

                    Yet It's almost similar (but not exactly, sure) in correlation with a cell phone contract. Like, You're not saving 600$ on an unlocked 800$ phone when you buy it on contract for 199$. You pay the price in timely payments as you own it.

                    Your initial <300$ is just that, the initial payment. You pay to play as long as its lifetime in which you own if you want the full experience; that total racks up

                    [–]Broccoman 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (10子コメント)

                    Another advantage with PC, a much bigger library of older games, and zero chance of your games going obsolete if you buy a new PC (unless the PC industry suddenly shifted off of Windows, which would only happen if Microsoft did something monumentally dumb)

                    [–]ninj3 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                    If I'm not mistaken, some of the seriously old games (like DOS era) don't work in current Windows without a fan made patch or port or emulator. Still, you have that possibility on PC because there are so many fans that put such amazing effort into it.

                    Edit: In case it's not clear, I am agreeing with the above post!

                    [–]Broccoman 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    GOG specializes in bringing old DOS games to PC.

                    XSEED also has someone who specializes in old Windows porting.

                    [–]SFHalfling 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    Yeah but dosbox is free and plays everything AFAIK.

                    [–]ninj3 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Exactly, that's my point. On PC you can easily find a fix to play old stuff. On a console you have to hope they'll be nice enough to re-release it and charge you for the privilege.

                    [–]skilletamy 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Fallout 3 for example, works on some windows 10 machines (and wins8) straight from steam but I've spent a good hour or so, figuring out how to get it to run properly.

                    [–]Ganondorf_Is_God 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    dosboxing something generally works although sometimes you have to tell it what to set your cycles at.

                    I was playing System Shock 1 and the Shodan fight was unbeatable because it ended instantly in a time out since my clock rate was too high.

                    [–]wyratt14 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    I mean, that sort of proves his point. With PC you have to go all the way back to the 90s to find a game that doesn't work. With consoles you have to go back a mere year or two.

                    [–]ninj3 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Exactly! If I wasn't being clear, I was agreeing with /u/Broccoman.

                    [–]AllWoWNoSham 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    (unless the PC industry suddenly shifted off of Windows, which would only happen if Microsoft did something monumentally dumb)

                    Emulation would probably fix this, I mean you can play dos games and ps1 games and ds games on your PC.

                    [–]Northerner473 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                    My PS4 (original shape 500gb) worked out at around £100 when i bought it. Would like to see someone build a PC for £100 that's worth having. lol

                    [–]THE__DESPERADO 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                    That is pretty much the best part of consoles. If you get them later on in their life cycle and don't care much about MP games, you get access to some phenomenal experiences for super cheap. Especially when people are dumping their entire game collection + console on ebay for like $200.

                    Extremely overlooked too, people often talk about the costs of gaming on each platform but only through the eyes of someone buying brand new hardware and brand new games at launch. Just be patient and you get so much bang for your buck.

                    [–]Micolash 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    That's what helped the PS3 later in its life. Much cheaper and tons of exclusives that people could catch up on.

                    [–]Drigr 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    The thing is, PC has a higher upfront cost, but a longer lifespan. You can upgrade things every few years to stay relevant with a PC. Even less if you don't care much about graphics.

                    [–]Angadar 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    but think about all the money you could save if you bought a GTX 1080 and stole your neighbor's cable

                    not to mention steam sales

                    [–]genericname12345 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Steam sales are starting to scale back to the point that even the xbl sales are almost as good.

                    Nothing will be as good as the coal Christmas sale.

                    [–]scottishhusky 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    I got my Slim for £150, Yes I also own a PC. Why can't I have both, Why do people always have to shit on consoles like nonstop, That's what annoys me about some PCMR people.

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                      [–]Stadsminister_Stefan 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      500 bucks is both the consoles together, even more if you buy used like you do in your comparison. Console is around $200-300 and easily - $50 if used.

                      [–]mhenke10 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      I put a bit over $1000 into my first PC two years ago and it still runs like an animal. I love it. It's definitely paid itself off with savings on games and quality content. Plus I use it for all my other PC necessities!

                      [–]Thizzlebot 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (18子コメント)

                      Though the initial cost of being a PC Gamer is much higher,

                      I like to just put a game in a console and play I don't like having to update components and shit goes wrong way more often on PC. It's not for most people. :)

                      [–]wyratt14 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (13子コメント)

                      I download a game, open steam, click play. Very difficult. Shit doesn't go wrong unless you make it go wrong. Same with a console.

                      [–]Bloodb47h 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      These days it's not so bad. It's all very easy. Updating components is very plug and play and nothing goes wrong unless you're absolutely god awful with putting Lego together.

                      But I can understand how intimidating it seems when you don't ever do it yourself so I get that line of thinking.

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                        [–]myhihi1 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        It doesn't really seem like much more when I can game on it and use it as a regular computer. I'd honestly be spending the about the same amount for one low-end PC and a one console as opposed to one decent gaming rig.

                        [–]Pillowsmeller18 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Also with free VOIP i feel bad for nintendo people that need cellphones and an app to talk to each other.

                        [–]objective_apples 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        the massive difference is that steams primary purpose is as a marketplace, and it doesn't make sense to charge admission to the grocery store if you want peopl eto buy groceries. xbox live and psn's primary purpose is platform management and a standardized and controlled environment for console gamers to play games online and with friends. their use as content distribution platforms has developed over time and likely mitigated increasing costs that might have resulted in higher costs to all customers.

                        steam and xbox live/psn are really very very different business models, and that difference easily explains the difference in monetization methodology.

                        [–]ricebake333 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        I don't want to hate on consoles just don't nickel and dime me to death if I want to buy one.

                        The gaming masses proved they were stupid long time ago. As long as the vast majority of gamers are technology illiterate they will be screwed no matter which platform they are on. Remember DRM and steam are the sign of mass technology illiteracy. No intelligent person from my generation thinks steam and drm was a good thing.

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                          [–]Crusty_Magic 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                          Why? What's improving about the service? I cancelled my subscription years ago and never looked back.

                          [–]myhihi1 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          Nothing is improving they're just adjusting the price of their service for a currency that's lost value.

                          [–]Tapps_ 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          The Canadian dollar is weaker than it was a few years ago so the price is about the same in terms of US dollars.

                          [–]Ganondorf66 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          Their wallet is getting fuller, that's the improvement

                          [–]howarthee 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Not really though? It's been getting smaller because Canada's dollar is weaker to the US dollar. They're trying to even it out.

                          [–]Jakewadewood 59 ポイント60 ポイント  (36子コメント)

                          Really think this is BS. Like do I really cost Microsoft $70 a year so I can transmit maybe 1gb of data from playing on weekends per month? It's ridiculous they charge so much for what I highly doubt costs them shit. They're nickel and dime because they can

                          [–]Skeksis81 112 ポイント113 ポイント  (31子コメント)

                          Well console people seem to be willing to accept it, so why would they stop?

                          [–]altAcctD 52 ポイント53 ポイント  (30子コメント)

                          Yup. I remember when MS tried it on PC, didn't go so well. It's only a thing because people have shown they are willing to pay. Now, it's everywhere on consoles.

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                            [–]Tapps_ 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (17子コメント)

                            I'm amazed at the number of people in this thread defending the price increase on something that honestly never should have been a paid service.

                            [–]Rodot 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                            Some of the threads have lots of people defending ads on paid services. Like, what the fuck? This is exactly what happened to cable. Soon enough you'll be forced to watch 2 minutes worth of ads in every game lobby between matches. And the players will still defend the corporations.

                            [–]capitalsfan08 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            That's because everyone here is too young to know what happened with cable and they don't do their research before defending their favorite purchase.

                            [–]genericname12345 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                            No, I just don't have a fucking seizure over a tile that is 1 inch by 1 inch. And it's almost always something on sale at the time.

                            Seriously, you all actually like you were sexually assaulted by a 30 second spot when you were a kid and now any time an ad is nearby you get jumpy.

                            [–]capitalsfan08 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (10子コメント)

                            What do you mean? I defended the fact that they can raise the price due to the falling Canadian dollar, but the fact they charge anything at all sucks. But, if you are paying for a service, expecting it to be immune from economics is a bit much.

                            [–]yourackadisiprin 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            They're just trying to spin the story because emotions are better to go on than the reality of the markets.

                            [–]bluesmaker 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                            Paying annual fees to play online is bullshit. Plain and simple. End of story. Read the other comments..

                            [–]ImFranny 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (13子コメント)

                            And then console players still say PC gaming is expensive, when at the end of the day, you console players have to pay to play online...

                            [–]IceBreak 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (11子コメント)

                            I loathe the online play tie in but if you're smart and pre-pay you can get a subscription for ~$40 give or take which comes to ~$400 over a decade. It's shitty, yeah. But building a PC worth it's weight is going to set you back a grand, even if you use your TV instead of a monitor.

                            I'm actually (I think?) going to build one instead of getting a Scorpio with XBLG being part of the reason (and the fact that it seems like everything on Xbox will be on PC without the online subscription now)...but while you can technically build a gaming PC for $400, it's a pretty big waste of time and effort to do so versus building a more competent rig.

                            One thing I didn't mention are the complimentary games. And I won't. They are pretty lackluster and don't justify the fee at all to me anymore.

                            [–]Omicron0 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            but while you can technically build a gaming PC for $400, it's a pretty big waste of time and effort to do so versus building a more competent rig.

                            nah, you can spend $470 now and get something amazing. now an i3 (technically pentium) is $70

                            [–]wyratt14 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                            $40 a year is a new AAA game every year. Or an indie game every month. I'd rather have that than just toss my money away and get nothing.

                            [–]Antith3sis 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                            With the games with gold though you get access to 48 games every year though, and many don't think that that is getting nothing

                            [–]ZXDarkblade 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                            You really don't need to drop a grand for a good gaming PC. I wouldn't go so far as to say you can build a really good one for $400, but for $600 or $700 you can build a PC that:

                            • plays more games (because of all the PC exclusives) than consoles

                            • at higher graphical settings

                            • with more customization in settings and such

                            • without paying for multiplayer

                            • with all of the mods you could ever dream of

                            • with a keyboard and mouse or a controller

                            • all at a higher framerate than consoles.

                            Plus, you don't have to worry about backwards compat when a new console comes out or leaving your friends behind (or your friends leaving you behind) because a new PC never comes out. You can play all the old and new games you want with any of your friends no matter what kind of rig they have.

                            [–]IceBreak 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            Plus, you don't have to worry about backwards compat when a new console comes out or leaving your friends behind

                            Xbox has moved in this direction, to be fair.

                            [–]ZXDarkblade 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Yes, but you can't even play original X-Box games on it, while on PC you can play games from the 80s and 90s on a modern device.

                            [–]Antith3sis 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            People should really stop with saying about back compatible. There are plenty of games that I had on my windows 98 / XP that simply won't run anymore, either at all or only with several hours of messing around. Either that or I'd have to rebuy it on GoG or something

                            [–]capitalsfan08 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            This brings it closer to parity than it was previously, but PC gaming is still more expensive for me than a console.

                            [–]Aleitheo 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            increasing by $10 to $69.99

                            Important wording there, for a second I thought you were saying that the monthly subscription was changing to $69.99

                            [–]IceBreak 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                            Couple notes for Canadians:

                            • You can stack up to three years of XBLG.

                            • You can stack infinite years of PS+.

                            [–]PYDuval 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            I wonder if they adjust your current subscribed time with the changes to the subscription fee - like if you had paid for 1 year on PS4 before they increased the fee are you now with only 10 months?

                            [–]IceBreak 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            XBLG does. EA Access DOES NOT.

                            [–]BonerwoodSalad 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (40子コメント)

                            This is dumb. I don't care if the dollar isn't at parity. Our salaries do not change based on the dollar. We're making less money and therefore have less to spend because everything keeps going up in price.

                            This will just mean I'll buy a 12 month key from a reseller and cut microsoft out on the extra profits - their problem.

                            [–]mattattaxx 77 ポイント78 ポイント  (32子コメント)

                            Well, they've gone quite a while without changing prices despite the Canadian dollar being weaker. You can buy it from a retail, but don't blame Microsoft for not wanting to take the hit.

                            Exchange parities affect Canadians regardless of your salary.

                            [–]BonerwoodSalad 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (19子コメント)

                            Exchange parities affect Canadians regardless of your salary.

                            You don't have to tell me, I couldn't help but notice that the price of literally everything has gone up.

                            [–]mattattaxx 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                            Honestly it was frustrating when we made parity, nothing went down in price like it was supposed to.

                            [–]Chris266 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            Thats the biggest kick in the balls of all of this. If we ever reach parity again do you think they will lower the prices of all this shit? Fuck no they won't. Its such bullshit.

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                              [–]mrpoisonman 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (10子コメント)

                              I feel bad for the guys in our Canadian office. A few came over for a training session, they start at the same pay as us numerically, except their dollar keeps dropping. Their housing costs are also double what we pay numerically...

                              [–]BIGDADDY12INCH 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (10子コメント)

                              I don't think your realizing that grasping the concept that your money is just literally worth less to the rest of the world.

                              Let's put this in perspective:

                              $70 is $53.22 (USD)

                              Your already getting it $6.78 cheaper then the country right below to you.

                              At $60 you would be getting it for $45.62 (USD)

                              $14.38 cheaper. Do you really expect companies them to take an almost 25% hit?

                              If they weren't being considerate in any way that could be charging you $76 easily.

                              [–]MIKE_BABCOCK 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              except when we hit parity we didn't see them dropping their prices, they kept that shit at $80 anyway.

                              [–]CompletelySouledOut 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Before the recently drop a few years ago I was definitely buying games at $60 here in Ontario. It was only until a few years ago when the dollar started dropping did the price creep back up.

                              [–]swaggeroon 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                              That's nice and all, but the simple fact remains that my wages have not risen along with the rising prices. So, even if you explain away the price in a hundred different ways, I still won't buy something whose price has risen to a ridiculous level, and Microsoft or whatever other company will still have lost a potential customer.

                              [–]BIGDADDY12INCH 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              Man your letting emotions get in the way of the core concept here.

                              Nobody is raising prices.

                              To rest of the world they are charging you the exact same price and are receiving the exact same amount of profit. Your money is just now worth about 3/4 of a US dollar. You live in a first world country and your buying luxury import items you think companies are going to take an almost 25% loss in profits because you guys are down on your luck and they feel bad? No they want you to pay full price because they know damn well people can come up with the $10 extra dollars for their luxury hobby.

                              Your wages aren't going to raise because your economy is clearly struggling which is why were at this junction to begin with. If you want to blame someone blame your government.

                              Most countries have experienced this at one point or another its just how a global economy works. I'm not saying it doesn't suck but your pointing the blame in the wrong place.

                              [–]swaggeroon 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              I'm not particularly emotional about this. Please don't decide my feelings for me. I'm also not trying to lay blame anywhere, but if I were I'd probably lay it on my government too.

                              What I am saying is that in the last year the price of both produce and meats and of housing and rent has risen by about 50% where I live. Many people have simply been priced out of their own homes, and it's increasingly difficult just to afford food.

                              So the practical effect of this is that, when companies also raise the prices of their videogames, far, far fewer people buy them. The customer stops asking 'Do I want to buy this videogame?' and starts asking 'Do I want to work at minimum wage for eight hours so that I can afford this videogame?' No, of course they don't.

                              My next point will be anecdotal, but I think it's important nonetheless. During the last generation, almost all my friends had at least one console, most of them had both a Wii and a 360, and one even had all three. Some literally bought dozens of games, and everyone had at least two controllers. Now I know one person with a PS4 (with one controller and two games) and two people with Wii Us. That's it. There are other factors behind this change, but price is definitely an important aspect.

                              That's all that I'm saying. I'm not blaming anyone, but I am pointing out that the increase in price (which is exactly what it is from the perspective of a Canadian, whether you think it is or not) has turned many, many people off of console gaming. After all, why pay $80 for a console game when you can wait for the $15 Steam sale and not feel like you're overpaying?

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                                [–]CruelMetatron 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                I don't remember games and stuff getting cheaper when the € was a lot stronger than the $.

                                [–]Viklove 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                You understand so little about economics it's actually funny.

                                [–]uberduger 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Well, either Microsoft earns less or you pay more. And since it's them controlling the service, you will have to pay more.

                                Microsoft aren't in charge of your country's economy. If you want it to cost less, you as a country will have to make your dollar worth more.

                                I'm from the UK and everything from abroad costs me more now because of the idiots who wanted us out of the EU. That's not the rest of the world's fault, it's people here at home. I can't expect every company in the world to take a profit margin cut just because our country has made poor economic decisions, and if that's what's happened in Canada (I really haven't looked into it) then you will have to just suck it up too.

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                                  [–]Zahne1977 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  You should all be happy to pay Microsoft a recurring monthly and/or yearly fee for the right to play the platform you already paid for.

                                  Now if you'll excuse me, I have a day filled with free multiplayer on my PC ahead of me.

                                  [–]Dan_Of_Time 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Does anyone actually buy gold from the Xbox store though?

                                  I always buy codes on eBay or something.

                                  [–]nameucanthate 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                  And yet if Nintendo had announced these prices for the Switch than I guarantee you that the top comments would look very different right now, and a much less understanding.

                                  [–]Tapps_ 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  No one was happy that nintendo said they are going to charge of online. We just don't know the price yet, but Smash and Mario Kart are so popular I think people will end up paying

                                  [–]pancak 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Smash and Mario Kart are popular regardless of their online functionality.

                                  [–]Mr_Reddit_Green 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  not a single comment should be understanding about these paid multiplayer subscriptions

                                  [–]UnbornParadox 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                  Man, friend convinced me to build a gaming PC.. But I still played on PC and console when I had the time, exclusive games, different feel, community etc.. But once my membership ran out, I really just can't do it anymore. Same reason I stopped playing wow. I bought the game and expansions, let me play! I bought your console and I'm buying your games, let me play!?

                                  But now I just play PC games..

                                  [–]DarkHeroAxel 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                  To be fair, WoW and other MMOS actually have a legitimate reason to charge for those subscriptions due to the servers and maintenance required to sustain such a large amount of people all doing stuff in the same world.

                                  Console Multiplayer is still 90% peer 2 peer, basically meaning you're paying to use your Internet on consoles.

                                  [–]Parable4 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  Console Multiplayer is still 90% peer 2 peer

                                  Really? I thought most games nowadays used dedicated servers.

                                  [–]Tokbirn 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  It's been moving in that direction, but I don't think it's all the way there yet.

                                  [–]theredwakeskater 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Paying for online multiplayer has always ticked me off a bit, but back in the Halo days I was so hooked into the series that I had no problem paying for Live at the time and it made me want to switch to the PlayStation 3 quite often because of it.

                                  Thanks to Sony though, it has at least forced Microsoft to give out 2 games a month for you to keep and 2 as a rental basically (Xbox One games), I wish they would switch it to permanent licenses, but highly unlikely.

                                  Even if each 360 game was around $2.50 each, over the year you'd still get $60, yeah sure they are old games but some of them are pretty good.

                                  It would be awesome if both companies would go back to how Sony had it on the PS3 era. If you paid for PS+, you'd get some games, if you didn't then MP was free.

                                  I'd suggest checking Slickdeals.net for deals on the cards and if you work for retail that sells Microsoft/Sony stuff check expertzone.microsoft.com or on.playstation.com

                                  (Not sure on the PS section since I don't have access to that, but ExpertZone gives you a chance to get free Xbox LIVE every year (haven't paid for LIVE in 5+ years).

                                  [–]Clothing_Mandatory 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  I immediately stopped my auto-renew... I only play exclusives on Xbox, and barely even touch the multiplayer on them. Not worth it at all.

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