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[–]AS-6194 54 ポイント55 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Lvg throwback. Even the goal had van gaal written all over it

[–]PoppinKREAMZlatan 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Except we finished our chance! Don't get me wrong, LvG played a pivotal role in trying to revamped our entire club so I'm not trying to slag him off completely. But I'm so happy we scored before the half, was worried the second half would be another cagey 45 minutes

[–]kw9403Rooney 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Commentators saying Man Utd should play route one football then we score off a cross and then they jump to saying there's route one football, since when the fuck was a cross route one football

[–]RVallant 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Commentators have been utter shite.

When Mhkti got fouled but the ref gave a throw in;

"Brilliant tackle there."

Replay shows he went through him to get the ball

"We'll give him the benefit of the doubt!" >_>

Fuck off!

[–]mu_37Ibrahimovic 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

fuck me they sounded devastated because we scored, awful commentators.

[–]IrishaneSolskjaer 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just Martin Keown things.

[–]_LeftHookLarry 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Keown is such a bitter shit when it comes to Utd. Always tries to drop in small jibes when he can

[–]targeryianJones 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's pissing me off. Fuck do we have that tit commentating on a United match. Rather listen to Michael Owen.

[–]DyslexicGeniusJose Mourinho 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Love how the two players who have been written off combined for the goal.

[–]21Stacking 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (16子コメント)

Martial and Shaw better play 10x better in the second half because we know Mourinho can be quick to freeze out players due to really bad performances

[–]kw9403Rooney 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Shaw hasn't been shockingly bad, he's had a few bad moments but he's had a few good ones though. Martial looks horribly out of position on top of playing against a team that's going to keep flooding him all game. It wouldnt be fair to drop him. Because of the score they should open up more in the second half and Martial should play a lot better

[–]TimmyBashSchweinsteiger 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He just seems to lack confidence to be honest. Been like this for a while. Hopefully it builds.

[–]21Stacking 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is it me or does Shaw look like more of a midget now?

[–]mrminima1234 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Martial has rarely seen the ball today.

He needs to be more involved.

[–]RogerFedererFTWI love Fellaini - AMA 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rooney as striker, mkhi/mata at am and martial at left wing?

[–]bagombos_enough_boxFat Ronaldo 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wtf I thought Shaw had a cracking first half. Beating his man, making interceptions and putting balls into the box.

[–]Takley 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

On the ball, he was good, but you watch him off it and its obvious he is lacking. You just hope, obviously, it's down to not playing for a while.

[–]Talezeusz 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wonder why he didn't freeze out Pogba after 2 pathetic performances then, he just isn't objective towards the players and you can clearly see that, why lost few points because of that.

[–]PaolarbearGiggsy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thought Shaw had a few good runs but for some reason the others weren't getting him the ball at the latter part of the first half

[–]TolkienMartinMartial 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Shaw certainly doesn't look like a left back that was promised

[–]Tob4Beckham 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He also had a huge fucking injury which might have messed his whole career

[–]wpmkMemphis 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think a leg break was promised either.

[–]dleazzzRooney -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Got a feeling Martial will be gone untill next season. Really don't want it to happen but i got a bad feeling about it....

[–]cristiano10sMartial -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

We played like 20 players these past two games and not one standout performance. Martial has actually been decent, the only one who brings speed to our game. But yeah, with our whole team playing shit lately it will be interesting to see who Jose drops

[–]21Stacking 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What? Have you been watching the game? In the first 10 minutes alone Martial lost the ball 3 times.

[–]RaichuALoveSong93 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It looked like we started the game with Martial up top and Rooney more to the left...and it was horrible. Martial looked better later on when he moved to the left though

[–]cookie1254Rafael 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wish we'd play Fellaini further forward more often. He's proved how good he can be when gets into the box but if you ask him to start attacks from the back he just won't be able to.

[–]funkinghellScholes 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly, he's come under some pretty unfair criticism over the years. He's done pretty well with his time with us considering he has played the majority of his games for us out of position. Sadly for him we've had many players who can play in behind the striker, so he's hardly had a look in in that position despite always coming up with some important goals for us when he does play there.

[–]PoppinKREAMZlatan 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Fellaini thank you for putting us ahead! Was worried it would end in a cagey draw

[–]kw9403Rooney 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

For all the shit he gets he saves us a lot, scored an important goal against Hull and again today

[–]account_locked_The Face 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Shocking how Bastian and Shaw look so rusty. /s

[–]faheemunitedThere's only one Zlatan 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Shaw's crosses and runs were a delight to watch. And obviously a great end to the half. Brilliant ball and strong header by the beast.

[–]_LeftHookLarry 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most his crosses didn't get past the front post

[–]ChaosThe15thRooney 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fellaini continues to prove his doubters wrong. Superb cross as well by Bastian.

[–]Coola_BananerHerrera 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Please stop drifting in so much Shaw. We need some width on the left side too.

[–]mufc_realtalkJose Mourinho's Daughter 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (11子コメント)

If Basti can play like this for 90 minutes he could be in contention for first team games

[–]kw9403Rooney 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Had a few sloppy moments, put it down to not being sharp

[–]cristiano10sMartial 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well yeah considering they were all early in the game. Pogba's first five minutes for us vs Southampton were really poor too

[–]cdbriggs 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Probably an unpopular opinion but I really am not too sure about his performance. Very slow on and off the ball and hardly ever makes any meaningful passes. His cross to Fellaini is the exception.

[–]Takley 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep, no idea what game people watched, made one nice cross but other than that he was a hindrance to every attack and not useful in defense either

[–]account_locked_The Face 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He started growing into the game. I am not suggesting he's the long term solution, but he could be a fantastic option.

[–]bagombos_enough_boxFat Ronaldo 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Assist aside, I thought he'd been average. He's been under zero pressure. Also been caught on the ball once or twice.

[–]TimmyBashSchweinsteiger 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't forget his 2 shockingly placed passed. He's been ok. Definitely had the biggest range of passing which is crucial for us in midfield.

[–]Takley 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Lol what

He made one decent cross, other than that he didnt make a single adventurous poass, lost the ball in dangerous places, and passed backwards.

This play is so oddly obsessed with him

[–]ijd17Uncle Ant 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

honestly don't understand the wankfest over him

[–]VaudevilleVillain 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Basti has completed 90 minutes for us a handful of times . I'd be surprised if he plays much outside of the europa league perhaps.

[–]NostrabrahmusJose Mourinho 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah he's done well

[–]megafanatic 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

No pace. Too many sideways and backwards passes.

[–]kw9403Rooney 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be fair you can't play forward against a team that has 8 players in front of you at every opportunity. We needed the goal and expect a different second half

[–]_Mayama_#2sweet 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There is no space to run at them. Only twice we get to do it were on the counter.

[–]_LeftHookLarry 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, too slow moving it out to the wings

[–]cdbriggs 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah this Fellaini/Schweinsteiger midfield does not seem to be effective

[–]1wordcommmentValencia 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

And Fellaini keeps on contributing...

[–]shy247erDe Gea 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

And people in live thread keep on hating.

[–]Takley 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

rightly so, he';s absolutely horrible in midfield, hoofing it to his head doesnt change the fact he cant pass forwards to save his life

[–]TheBCalIbrahimovic -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (13子コメント)

I really don't understand how people can say they don't see the quality anymore in Schweinsteiger. He has been incredible this game.

He's only had two misplaced passes. His vision to pick out Shaw and Martial has been terrific. He's controlled the game completely.

Make no mistake, Fellaini scored but that was all Schweinsteiger.

[–]cookie1254Rafael 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Incredible is a massive exaggeration imo. Our build up play from deep has been shite and he has to take at least some responsibility for that

[–]_LeftHookLarry 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's the only one playing forward passes from deep...

[–]husaini___ 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Call me a haters. Its a wigan. He should do more than that

[–]shy247erDe Gea 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You do understand how long he's been away from having constant minutes?

[–]husaini___ 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Then you do realise he havr a lot of time to build his fitness back right

[–]wakey87433Mata 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

When he is so short on matches and hence match sharpness you can't expect a perfect performance from him though. Also being beside Fellaini doesn't help who is awful when playing deeper. Moving Fellaini forward and putting someone next to Bastian who is more effective would help Bastian

[–]BurfobinoDaily Sexy Blind 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What? All credit to Schweinsteiger, but Fellaini bulldozed himself through the whole defence and plucked the ball out of thin air. There are few players who could match that.

[–]WoW_ChristopherShaw 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

he's played one good cross. Apart from that he has barely move and picked the safe pass every time, he slows everything down and offers basically nothing going forward

[–]_LeftHookLarry 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed. He was rusty the first 10 minutes but he just has class, should be playing everytime Carrick isn't imo

[–]cdbriggs 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The majority of his passes were to Fellaini, Smalling, or Rojo all 5-10 feet away.

[–]omoteeoyJanuzaj 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Common give Fellaini more credit than that, very few players would score that goal, he still had to fight for the ball without fouling the defender, we all know the refs are quick to blow against him due to his size. If anything Fosu Mensa's cross was even better cause it beat all the defenders

[–]Kiddcohen39Rashford -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's been alright but he's also taken far too long on the ball many times, misplaced simple passes (that one to TFM for example) and not done much to help out defensively. He can still contribute in bits and pieces but surely his time as a regular is done.

[–]Takley -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He has been incredible this game.

What fucking game are you watching? Incredible? Laugh my ass of

[–]RiotCostyJose Mourinho -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Wigan playing anti-football here. Glad Fellaini scored, now they have to play.

[–]_LeftHookLarry 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sorry but "anti-football" what a load of shit. They have a game plan because the manager knows they have inferior players.

[–]Kiddcohen39Rashford 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hahahah really? Fuck off mate they've been brilliant give them some credit. Should they come to Old Trafford looking to bag three with tiki taka and gegenpressing? They've had more shots on goal than us at home for fucks sake. Anti football....

[–]TolkienMartinMartial 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

fuck off with that "anti-football" rhetoric

[–]RVallant 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I actually like the defending, it's quite an interesting system, but yeah good to have scored.

[–]PoppinKREAMZlatan 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was worried it was going to be a nil nil draw the way Wigan were playing. Glad Fellaini completely man handled his defender and got the header in. Brilliant cross from Schweinsteiger too, even if he's not having the best match he pulled that magic out

[–]VaudevilleVillain 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think they can change their approach. Joyce will know we will pick them apart with an open game

[–]IrishaneSolskjaer 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Disagree with you there. They're closing down really well. They've been around our box more than I'd expected in 45mins. The only thing they've done wrong is concede.

More than one way to play football.

[–]Custard_NoobMartial. He's isolated. Skrtel here. OHHHHH YESSS! 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Much better during the last 10 minutes, Martial looks better now he's on the wing. Also 237 to go for Fellani.

[–]HmphOkay 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can we stop trying to slide the ball over and round the fucking BFG?

[–]martialreignBlind 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hope we kick on in the second half, the first 30 mins were so hard to watch.

[–]HenryAvery_ 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We only started playing from the 40 minute. Hopefully Jose gets the squad fired up for the second half.

[–]tenlittleindians 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

that slow midfield really fucked us over!!! /s

[–]kaoticreapzRashgod 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shaw looks decent.

[–]Ombudsperson 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Very shaky first 30 minutes but its settled well after that. I think TFM is a tad underused otherwise should be an easy win.

[–]the_watch_trick 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

lol I remember why I stopped reading the match threads. So much negativity, especially towards schweinsteiger who I thought was playing well considering his lack of playtime

[–]WszystkoZajete20 times, 20 times Man United! 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Still fucking dreadful

[–]cmf_ansValencia 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Schweinsteiger looks more fit than Shaw to be fair.

[–]Qwertyasdfzxcv123De Gea 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd love to see the Bbc get the prem, better commentary and punditary imo, plus it would hopefully be free.

[–]Magnehtic 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wigan not interested in coming out to play. Despite the goal, Fellaini and Bastian have been fucking wank. I was hoping that without Herrera, we might play a forward pass this game but nope. No-one seems to know what the rest of the team are doing and to be honest, neither do I. It looks like they're all playing blindfolded.

[–]husaini___ 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Do anyone notice smalling always get his hands around oppenent waist or body. And he always get away from the ref

[–]ToneDiezUNLUCKY NUMBER S7EVIN 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wanna park the bus from the start of the match playing anti-football? Fine, lets throw some tall players up top and just smother them with crosses. Goal. NOW can we play some actual football in the 2nd half??

[–]Havok-303 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Where the fuck are Man Utd?

[–]d4zzanJose Mourinho 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fellaini saving us after a poor half of dreary backpassing football with very little attacking intent and shakiness at the back....

I feel a strong sense of De Ja Vu and somebody is whispering "Louie Van Gaal's red army" into my ear... I think I need to lie down....

[–]KingKeane16Keane 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Whole team needs to fucking wake up.

[–]nimble_moose 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Glad we have the lead, but... LVG lineup LVG performance LVG goal

[–]wakey87433Mata 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why if Fellaini is going to play does he not play further forward than he generally has. When in the #10 kind of positions he is a real threat (as shown by the goal), when he is playing more as a standard (or defensive) midfielder he is a total liability and actually does more harm than good when it comes to team fluidity

[–]cristiano10sMartial 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Such a shit game so far. Cant remember the last time we played well in the first half. Mkhi, Martial, Schweinsteiger look half decent but everyone else looks so fucking slow on the ball

[–]Desperate_Desperado 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's amazing how many "x player is playing so shit" comments are in the Match Thread. It's really sad coming from the one sub that should be getting behind the players.

[–]RVallant 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd enjoy it more if the BBC commentators would shut up with their horrendous bias.

The first five minutes, they yaddered on about the 'pressure' on Martial, and how this game was a chance to 'prove himself to Mourinho' and how both Martial and Shaw were out of favour, having fallen out with Mourinho way back when we played Watford, and so much other bullshit.

Then around 10-15 minutes in they're off on about Fosu-Mensah and how the 'the new regime is limiting his chances', nice little dig at Mourinho there.

Then we're down to basically "I have no idea about football, but I got this job because I talk shit" when Fellaini scored and it's all "United with all their intricite passing, but they've thrown it on his head for the goal! Whew, lad!" as if one passage of play basically nullified the entire game plan of United, almost teasingly inviting the viewing to believe we should be punting the ball into the East Wind a la Klopp for the next 45 minutes.

Who are they? O_o They're basically spouting off Sky Sources lines all fucking day. =/

[–]Talezeusz -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Schweini best player in 1st half, actually i like his playmaking better than pogba long balls, obviously he need much more match fitness to eliminate easy mistakes but i hope mou will bring him to squad much often.

[–]hidayat999 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Fellaini has been a rock for us, both up front and deep at the back. So happy for him to be able to prove his doubters wrong.

Schweinsteiger started off a bit shaky, it's obvious his confidence has taken a dip. Hopefully that marvellous assist does him some good both for his confidence and his position in the pecking order.

[–]cristiano10sMartial 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The goal does nothing for his performance. He has hardly been a rock, he's given the ball away plenty of times in terrible positions under little pressure