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[–]calicocuddles 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Honestly, the biggest bullet you dodged here is her drinking problem. She's still at the age where so many of her peers are binge drinking that it's hard to tell who is just being an irresponsible kid and who is developing a drinking problem, but three angry and explicit drunk dials in two weeks (and the shame she experienced after each one) could mean she is headed for the latter category. Her choice of a short, difficult "career" in modeling certainly won't help. Poor girl - hopefully she gets her life a bit more under control before finding her next SD because her insecurity, tied with confusing her allowance with her worth, tied with her drinking could quickly and easily lead to full blown escorting.

[–]Chublinsand 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed. Model or not, people try to get out of relationships with people like this

[–]doctorcoolpopSugar Daddy 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

What all this story shows is that SR has all the drama potential of vanilla dating, ranging from bliss to domestic violence and everything in between. Welcome to humans. Chalk this up to life and experience.

[–]pinotandsugar 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

When someone is whining that they are turning down offers of 4 times your allowance it's time to rethink--- this is going to crash and might as well get out early.

Same would go for an SD who is claiming he could do better at half the allowance...

[–]quixoticlecher 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Vent away! You win some and you lose some. Take it easy with the decimals?

[–]sugardaddyguydude[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Engieering major Math Minor Finance Masters

What can I say, those decimals matter!

[–]AdaddyacctSugar Daddy 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Wow, that's pretty awesome, I very rarely find a girl that attractive that's even browsing around on SA, and it sounds like you were in a pretty decent SGF relationship with her. Congrats on making that happen and not totally falling in love.

Unfortunately, when you give lots of money upfront like that, it tends to kill the arrangement. I don't know why, but most SDs here have noticed the same pattern.

[–]sugardaddyguydude[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah, it was pretty stupid how hot she is actually .... But as others in the thread pointed out, drama trumps looks in the end. (Pun intended)

[–]AdaddyacctSugar Daddy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Did you find her on SA originally?

[–]vanillagraySpoiled Girlfriend 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sorry this happened, but good luck in your vanilla adventures! My take on the situation is that she compared numbers with her other friends that sugar (may or may not also be models), got bitter/jealous and viola...

[–]Reddington3Sugar Daddy 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

3k a month tax free is the equivalent of a 45k a year job. I think maybe you dodged a bullet before her drinking issue got worse,

[–]The_Old_High_HardoneSugar Mentor 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

my wife brought home ~60k last year and her checks were around 1500 every 2 weeks. YMMV Uncle Sam don't play.

But yeah, some of these girls have no concept of money or how unlikely it is to make 3, 4, 5, 6k a month free and clear in the real world.

[–]BOS_SL_2016Sugar Daddy 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm sorry to hear of your drama and your loss.

I don't know how much went wrong other than that she has a problem with alcohol. She abuses it (drinks too much), acts irrationally, and the next day apologizes. Whether it's the "truth" that was coming out when she was drunk, who knows. To me it wouldn't matter. No matter how hot, I'd not put up with that either and would have broken up with her as well.

[–]sugardaddyguydude[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yup, that's why I sugar in the first place. I want to build an empire right now, not deal with typical BS relationship drama. If one of them happens to turn out to be the one awesome, if not it's a temporary thing. Why I love sugaring so far, but I agree and I luckily have been torn apart in my past so I am a bit immune now.

[–]LuxesqueSugar Baby 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If this really was her first arrangement, she'll look back and realize what a counterproductive move that was. 3k is a really good starting point, especially for your first arrangement. Who knows, maybe you two could have discussed raising her allowance after some time...3 months is 0 time to know someone...but people get short sighted in this life. Also, she was never being offered 8k. She was trying to make you jealous. Why would you stay where you feel you're being shorted? She'll learn down the line and will probably be in contact again at some point.

Unless you left a chunk of detail out the story and it's really you that goofed 😂

[–]OracleofFl 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It sounds like she had some extraordinary expenses and didn't have enough money to get through the month and that started her "hamstering" the "I should just get a guy willing to pay more even though I like OP, I can find another guy I like who will also be able to be more generous because I am awesome". I hate to say it but if you are dating a relatively immature woman who is hit on constantly, this is going to happen whether it is vanilla relationship or a SR. If you are going to date hot young women, expect stormy seas.

BTW - don't be surprised if she boomerangs with a drunk call and wants back in. She will go on some M&Gs and if she finds a guy with big promises who doesn't deliver she will be back. The grass isn't always greener on the other side of the fence.

[–]sugarcoutureSugar Baby 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's unfortunate that this happened. My guess is that she started resenting the fact that you guys started spending so much time together, yet the allowance stayed the same. That's the only thing I can think of.

It still doesn't excuse her behavior, and it comes across as super immature. If she felt that way, she should have just sat you down and had a talk about everything. I'm sure you would have been a lot more receptive to that than demeaning drunk phone calls.

It's probably for the best. She probably would have continued to resent you and things would have continued to go downhill.

[–]sugardaddyguydude[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I'm not sure either but agree, whatever the reason was our time has come and gone. Bring out the new and shiny toys right?

[–]kraska97Sugar Baby 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

"What, so I just get nothing!!!" "I have been offered $8k per month by a lot of guys!"-

Such shameful, unacceptable, ungrateful, and despicable behavior- if you ever continue to talk to her again you will enable her to manipulate others inside and outside of the bowl and she will never be able to learn humility.

"But in all seriousness she is a great girl and if she continues to do the bowl I wish her luck."- She sounds like a total sweetheart to me! Hmmm..

[–]sugardaddyguydude[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

While she is def not the type of girl I want to date in any way shape or form after such interaction, I am not so quick to crucify.

[–]orsugar 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Two possibilities:

  1. She was acting all along. The "drunk dialing" was just an act to get more allowance out of you, in a way that allows plausible denial.

  2. She was into you, and wanted to test how you would handle a fight between the two of you. For some odd reason, the young generation of girls are taught (probably by the stories they read) that fight, temporary breakup then the guy coming back with his head on a silver platter is the way to prove that the guy really loves her or he is controllable in a future relationship. A general plot along those lines is discernible even in "Harry Potter," between Hermione and Ron. There is a social agenda in those heavily promoted books; "nothing is accident in politics" or heavily gated publishing. I think they are setting young people up for failed marriages in the long run. She would never trust her future with such a wimp in the long run.

[–]kraska97Sugar Baby 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This tactic doesn't work with self-respecting people, good for sugardaddyguydude for dodging the bullet. Maybe he is the first man who hasn't fallen for her childish tantrums and she had a wake up call the next morning during her grovelling phone call.

[–]sugardaddyguydude[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

TheRedPill has some interesting theories about that kind of stuff that aren't entirely wrong.

Obviously it doesnt matter but I do think it is the latter, we are still chatting a little bit through text messages and in my honest opinion I didn't get screwed over in any way. We were spending almost every other day together that last month.

I just have told her that with what I am trying to do for work I am not looking for the type of relationship she is, maybe it's what you just listed.

"But I am working on making it so neither of us ever have to work, so you work on making sure I am not stressed when I am not working" Is all I ask!

[–]clissamde 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Coming from someone in that younger generation I can see number 2 being a good theory. I know plenty girls like that. It's still childish as hell

[–]grandmaSb 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Awww you seem like a really sweet guy - sorry youre hurt. Consider it her loss. They say a drunk mans words are a sober mans thoughts... funny part- those offering her 8k are probably scammers. Sounds like she was full of drama by the end anyway. Good luck on your dates!

[–]Cledaddy23Sugar Daddy 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was thinking the same thing re: 8k guys being scammers...hopefully her alcohol problem doesn't could her judgement so that she gets burned by one of them.

[–]bluelunarmonkey 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

yeah. maybe she made a date with one of these '8k guys' and fell in a pile of salt. and she's a bad drunk.

[–]sugardaddyguydude[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

lol right? "Honeymoons' over dude!"

[–]wjaxSugar Daddy 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (8子コメント)

So sorry that happened to you. What a nightmare. When I see stories like this it makes me all the more certain that PPM is the way to go. And never pay in advance unless you are okay with possibly getting ripped off.

[–]Circe01 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (6子コメント)

He wasn't ripped off and he was paying her $750 every week not a monthly allowance. They originally agreed to 2 times a week but she ended up spending 3-4 nights a week with him instead. The issue isn't that he got ripped off is that she was resentful and unhappy with the allowance she was receiving and would call him while drunk to rant at him about it.

[–]sugardaddyguydude[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah this is very true, when I wasn't working or working out I was usually spending time with her. She hated her roomate and loved to come over and cook.

She swears she is just broke and stressed and "drunk dialed her emotions away" but the damage is done. Onward and upward!

[–]BOS_SL_2016Sugar Daddy 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

She swears she is just broke and stressed and "drunk dialed her emotions away" but the damage is done. Onward and upward!

In which case the best thing you can do for her is break up with her and have that be a lesson for her. Actions have consequences. It hopefully will make her a better person later in life.

[–]wjaxSugar Daddy -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

The story is confusing. It sounds like he was paying her weekly then she gave him a sob story and got him to pay a month up front. She went drunk/psycho after two weeks so it sounds like to me he got ripped off the last half of the month. That's why I don't do allowances.

[–]sugardaddyguydude[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Technically she "scrweed me over" of about half a week. But like Circe said we spent far more time together than intended, I don't see myself as getting screwed over.

If you are a PPM guy I pretty much was having sex with her at least a dozen times per week. Doesn't get better bang for the buck than that

[–]sugardaddyguydude[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Meh, almost a week. If we were doing our weekly thing we started with I would be xfering her again in 6 days

[–]wjaxSugar Daddy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you are a PPM guy I pretty much was having sex with her at least a dozen times per week. Doesn't get better bang for the buck than that

Awesome!

[–]The_Old_High_HardoneSugar Mentor 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

PPM is really the best/fairest way to go.

[–]newseekerman 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel for you. In sugar things go south quickly and sometimes it's a shrug and move on, no matter how much you care.

My educated guess is that she was in to coke. It's possible that she had a DUI or some other altercation that she needed money NOW for. But from my experience it's drugs. You mentioned that she's a party girl so it fits.

Her pusher finds out she got a bit of sugar cash so he gets her some extra quality of dope. Gets her hooked on the better high then says pay me 2X now. Seen it dozens of times. This is why I am oh so careful to find out WHY the sweet baby needs my money. Typically there is a dark secret that the girl is trying to hide her need for green. Sometimes it's just school or family bills. But oftentimes a girl will turn to sugar for money to pay some really dark people.

Probably best you are not together those "drunk" texts were probably real communication unfortunately.

[–]Cledaddy23Sugar Daddy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sounds like the classic case of someone with a bit of a substance problem shooting herself in the foot. I know it sucks, but it really is best that you decided to move on. You won't have an issue finding a quality SB with the allowance you were offering.