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[–]redtaboo[A] -167 points-166 points-165 points  (90 children)
I made this comment elsewhere, but it fits here in this thread as well:
In the case of /r/politics there has never been any proof of wrongdoing.
Similar posts and comments have been made multiple times, but as we've said before if anyone has actual proof of this or anything similar please send it our way so we can look into it. If mods anywhere on the site are being paid to moderate we will take action, as we have done multiple times in the past.
What isn’t okay is the amount of people now harassing the moderators of that subreddit, others calling for more harassment, and worse. That isn’t okay. If you have an issue with their moderation you can talk about it, if you have proof of wrongdoing then tell us — don’t attempt to start a witch hunt.
Beyond all that please remember they’re humans too, just like you.
[–]the_wood47 204 points205 points206 points  (42 children)
This is the most disingenuous thing I’ve ever read (and yall have said plenty of disingenuous shit). Let’s break it down shall we:
Does CTR exist?
Without question. They even brag about being present on Reddit. So to say they don’t exist when the company itself says they do is just plain dumb and matches their same level of disinformation.
Let’s take a little deeper look at the $6 million claim. On June 30th CTR released their SuperPAC summary. The following week (July 1st - 6th) r/politics was the “fastest growing non-default reddit of the day.” Something that has never happened once, let alone 7 days in a row. It was right around that time that users began to notice a strange 180 in content. One day users are calling for Hillary to be arrested, the next she’s a saint sent by the Lord to conquer Trump.
You ask for proof. Without having access to user IP’s or moderator mail, all we can rely on is circumstantial evidence. Like the influx of new user accounts that follow the “first name_last name” formula. Unfortunately they realized how easy it is to spot oddities like that, so you won’t find the “first name_last name” formula too often anymore. But again, to say that it doesn’t exist or that there’s “no proof” when there’s plenty of evidence, is fucking stupid.
Correct the Record is also known for their distributed talking points. Easy to spot.
September 11th, 2016. Hillary collapsed on camera. Users will tell you that it's the first time in a LONG time that r/politics was able to say anything remotely negative about Hillary. Why was that? According to the New York Times:
Correct the Record went virtually dark. “It was waiting for guidance from the campaign,” Mr. Brock explained.
David Brock (Correct The Record CEO) said they were "waiting for guidance from the campaign." Sure enough, one or two days after the collapse, the common theme among r/politics (which was back to posting strictly anti-Trump posts) was "she's so strong for attending while having pneumonia."
Now for anecdotal evidence. Try posting anything REMOTELY anti-hillary on r/politics and you’ll have 10 downvotes within 3 minutes. How is that even possible unless people are just refreshing the “new” tab looking for opposition. 90% of the mods in r/politics are less than a year old. One moderator also mods EnoughTrumpSpam, but somehow the one that supports Trump is demodded? Breitbart article aside, the points it brings up and examples linked in the article are still valid. Kind of like how Slate and HuffPo pieces are considered valid in r/politics.
Now a thread that was #1 on r/All gets deleted for no reason other than that users are discussing the censorship within r/politics? Great optics there team. Nothing to see here. No proof. Just a lot of circumstantial evidence. Give me a break.
[–]treasrang 50 points51 points52 points  (0 children)
My favorite is how /r/politics goes back to fairly unbiased stories on national holidays.
Everyone working for CTR is enjoying their day off.
[–]BraveSquirrel 64 points65 points66 points  (30 children)
And don't forget that patronizing tone where we need to told like children to be nice to the people rotting our political system to death from the inside out because "they're humans too".
[–]Stembolt_Sealer 29 points30 points31 points  (29 children)
I imagine /u/redtaboo made their post, disabled the inbox, and never saw the reply. Easier to run and hide than face a well-worded retort with connecting dots.
/u/the_wood47 took the time to draw it out in black and white so either /u/redtaboo is a 'true believer' in which case logic, evidence, and motive are just made up words, or they're lying and just don't give a fuck.
I don't fall for this killing-you-with-kindness bullshit. I swear this new political climate lives under this pretense that the person in the argument that doesn't fly off the handle automatically wins. You can be polite AND an asshole! Asshole. You can angrily shout-swear AND be fucking right.
[–]the_wood47 3 points4 points5 points  (2 children)
I was kind of hoping for a response too, I thought redtaboo was being sincere about an interest in concerns
[–]TheScoresWhat 9 points10 points11 points  (0 children)
Ha, you thought an admin was sincere about r/politics
[–]Stembolt_Sealer 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
FYI they replied if you didn't see.
[–]redtaboo[A] -11 points-10 points-9 points  (25 children)
I didn't disable my inbox, I just don't see any proof there still. Just more accusations and circumstantial stuff that doesn't prove anything. We've investigated them, we've looked at what's being removed, we've looked at the bans. Hell, for most of that I just see it while browsing on my own. Nothing looks like a concerted effort towards bias of either side. I see users there that are banned who are Trump supporters, I see users banned from there that are Clinton supporters, and I see users that are undecided banned. The same goes when I'm reading comment threads there. I see comments coming from all stripes removed for breaking their incivility rules and I see comments reported then approved from all sides of the aisle when they aren't breaking the rules. I get that y'all can't see that, but all I can do here is tell you what I see
If anything they work to make their rules more black and white than I personally think would be necessary. I get why they do it though, they want to remove the possibility of subjective rules so they can remain unbiased in removals. Doesn't seem to help much though when people see what they want to see and ignore any of their explanations to the contrary and instead turn around and fill their inboxes with threats and vitriol. I don't think it's at all patronizing to ask people to not do that. I don't think it's bullshit to expect people to be able to have a discussion without violent threats or spewing vitriol at others. I see people all the time on this site able to have discussions where they fundamentally disagree without walking away hating or dehumanizing each other.
Do they sometimes make mistakes? Sure.. that's back to that being human bit. Everyone makes mistakes, I do, you do, the mods of every subreddit on reddit have. That's not surprising nor does it mean they're evil shills or out to kill free speech.
[–]johnchapel 7 points8 points9 points  (0 children)
Holy fuck, what an absolutely huge pile of shit without any shame for being obvious about how full of shit you are.
You are lying, dude. What the fuck?
[–]TheScoresWhat 17 points18 points19 points  (0 children)
The rules are extremely subjective on how they are enforced. The "civility" rule is used against Trump supporters for wild reasons that no reasonable person would use them and they are not used against Hillary supporters. Open the ban log and let us look.
[–]ErnestNyx 11 points12 points13 points  (2 children)
That's not surprising nor does it mean they're evil shills or out to kill free speech.
Except it's pretty strange that a subreddit as large as /r/the_donald, which means a heavy presence of rightists, have VERY LITTLE sway on /r/politics. That's not organic.
If I remember correctly, /r/politics used to be a reddit default, but had to be removed because the bias was TOO overt. So why defend them? Or am I incorrect on that?
Perhaps the answer is is that there was an initial "seeding" of liked-minded San Franciscans, probably the most left-wing city in the country, to promote certain viewpoints. Perhaps that initial seeding got out of control? Many questions one could ask. Us right-wingers haven't exactly had the easiest time on this platform. After all, I'm the perfect example of a pissed-off rightist ;).
There does seem to be a concerted example to kill off free speech in Silicon Valley, however. Google's Jigsaw AI is advertised to be for "ISIS extremists" but simple searches shows they target "extremist right-wingers as well." Twitter is losing stock because it's a garbage platform and everybody knows they censor. Hell, reddit itself got trolled by... moi... via CoonTown knowing you guys would ban it based on its content despite it being quite obvious we actively worked against harassment and targeting, the leftist media claimed we "harassed" but that was a lie. Pao knew this too, this is why we weren't banned alongside fatpeoplehate. It's fundamentally obvious that CT was banned for what we said and not what we did. I mean, /u/spez admits this in news articles.
Can you refresh me on why /r/politics was removed from being a default, or do I have that misremembered?
[–]heavenssent 3 points4 points5 points  (1 child)
Look at the reddit forums this person moderates before listening to anything they say.
[–]SilentWeaponQuietWar 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
holy shit, i barely have time to simply read more than a handful of reddits, and this person supposedly moderates almost 100 subreddits?
How is that even possible? Even if you only spent 3 minutes in each sub, that's 5 hours! That barely leaves any time for CTR shilling.
[–]Tz0pp33 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
life without morals and values must be so easy i kinda envy you
[–]BrimshaeSun Tzu VII:35\Survived GGinDC 2015\Dined GGinNC 2015\GGinRVA 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
they want to remove the possibility of subjective rules so they can remain unbiased in removals.
At least we can agree that their being unbiased hasn't happened yet.
#Owngoal
And this isn't just about the comments of /r/politics, it's about the readily-on-display bias in moderation of posts that goes on there, as well.
That subreddit is cancer, and it needs to be chemo'd.
Consider also: Wikileaks used to be allowed on that subreddit as recently as last year (though it looks like those mods missed a couple). As soon as Wikileaks got the DNC/Hillary hacks?
[–]TheManWhoPanders 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
I'm asking for an honest response. Do you honestly believe this sudden change of behaviour on July 30th was entirely organic?
[–]aviewfromoutside 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
circumstantial stuff that doesn't prove anything
I'm sorry, but in every court in the world circumstancial evidence can amount to proof. If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...
[–]Seriouscatt 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
Why are all of the mods between months and less than 2 years old? Do you think the mods are neutral when one is also a mod of a trump hate subreddit
Come on, you're not fooling anyone or you'd show proof to back up your claims
[–]TheScoresWhat 3 points4 points5 points  (8 children)
How come we don't get PROOF that they aren't bias and censoring? Our common sense based on evidence we can get shows they are paid shills. Release some evidence for us to check like the ban log for the last 6 months
[–]ShadistsRedditThe Alt-Modiest Mod 2 points3 points4 points  (7 children)
You realize you're asking them to prove a negative, right?
[–]SilentWeaponQuietWar 3 points4 points5 points  (6 children)
Release some evidence for us to check like the ban log for the last 6 months
sounds like they are asking for a very specific thing, actually.
[–]ShadistsRedditThe Alt-Modiest Mod 2 points3 points4 points  (5 children)
Release some evidence for us to check like the ban log for the last 6 months
Sure, the issue is will this "prove" that they are not paid shills? I could pop out the banned logs from here and it wouldn't prove that the mod staff here aren't lizard people.
[–]johnchapel 2 points3 points4 points  (4 children)
No, its that the problem is once those logs are released, they will almost definitely prove there IS bias, and then something will have to be done and they don't want that.
As it is currently, the overwhelming bias of /r/politics is clear as day, certainly enough circumstantial evidence for a conviction. The burden of proof is kinda pretty much now on the defense, not the offense anymore.
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    [–]SarcasticRidley 30 points31 points32 points  (5 children)
    I remember posting several paragraphs on my Facebook about how Clinton has been using media to manipulate people, and gave a bunch of examples like these. Of course, the only people who seem to have read the post were friends that are more on the right. None of my friends who are more on the left seem to have seen it. Gotta love that Facebook news feed algorithm.
    [–]the_wood47 29 points30 points31 points  (2 children)
    It's one of the scariest aspects of her campaign to me. This stuff won't end if she wins. It will increase. Her winning is only an affirmation that this type of media manipulation works. That's something every American should be afraid of. Everyone in this subreddit already knows how fucked the media currently is, regardless of how you feel about her policies vs Trump's policies, a Clinton victory will only take it to a new level. It's something that every voter should consider when making a decision, but few actually see it
    [–]SarcasticRidley 17 points18 points19 points  (1 child)
    I don't even like Trump, but I'm probably going to vote for him. If Clinton wins, I'll lose any faith I have in democracy. I see so many people on my Facebook who buy into her shit it's disgusting. I can't even voice opposition, because most of my colleagues and people I have to work with have drank the koolaid, and they'll probably ostracize me for it, which will lead to me being out of work.
    There's literal 1984 shit going on, and it seems like we are powerless to stop it.
    [–]BookOfGQuan 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
    I don't even like Trump, but I'm probably going to vote for him.
    Across the internet, I've found many, many arguments for why people are voting Trump. Often complex, nuanced, highly individual reasoning. Relatively few of these arguments are about liking Trump. There's great support for a Trump victory, but a lukewarm at best vision on Trump himself. Other than the usual cult of personality that all American politicians seem to cultivate (very dangerous that, no matter who it is), there's general ambivalence to Trump himself - we may not have bought into the shameful demonization campaign waged by the establishment, but it doesn't mean we're not critical and sceptical of Trump. If he wins, it won't be a vote "for Trump". It will be a far more admirable and difficult kind of shift for American politics. Well, assuming those who do form the Cult of Trump don't get too much influence.
    [–]TacoNinjaSkills 4 points5 points6 points  (1 child)
    IMHO it isn't the algorithm, these people just unfollow you without unfriending you.
    [–]StJimmy92 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
    I got unfriended by someone for posting this:
    "https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/914 Hillary's campaign chair suggesting illegally coordinating with a Super PAC"
    Almost no one comments or likes my posts anymore aside from right wing friends, my family, apolitical friends, and just generally chill people. I also got blocked by someone for making fun of the DNC.
    [–]Knox200 4 points5 points6 points  (1 child)
    kek, i posted a story in r/politics about how Bernie supporters were angry, and some body responded with that, word for word
    [–]Anymation 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    Holy shit
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      [–][deleted] 86 points87 points88 points  (7 children)
      It's a default sub that is turning this once great forum into a laughing stock.
      You can cling to the proof angle all you want but you're missing the common sense test. In your blinkered hate boner for Trump supporters you're marginalising all the Bernie supporters who weren't born yesterday. Hint: not these: https://i.redd.it/a12ol5cqrhqx.png
      Common sense, friendo. It's not hard.
      [–]CuckedByTRUMP 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
      They have proof and they are lying. There is no other way to cut it.
      [–]lakerswiz comment score below threshold-43 points-42 points-41 points  (5 children)
      You're looking at this thinking that it's CTR when in reality it's probably pro-Trump fans doing it on purpose so that they can use it as "evidence"
      I've had comments about Facebook and Oculus copy and pasted word for word which started a witch hunt against my account for being some shill account when in reality it's just bots reposting shit over and over with no regard for what they're actually posting.
      [–]the_wood47 41 points42 points43 points  (2 children)
      What kind of mental gymnastics is that? There's a SuperPAC that exists solely to defend Hillary on social media (like Reddit) that distributes talking points. And your first thought is "these obviously distributed talking points must be from Trump supporters"?
      [–]trananalized 15 points16 points17 points  (1 child)
      Yep, it's not even a rumour or conspiracy CTR is real and its goal is to argue on social media in favour of Clinton. There's even a press release out there which I haven't got time to search for right now!!
      [–]cylth 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
      The press release:
      Correct The Record will invest more than $1 million into Barrier Breakers 2016 activities, including the more than tripling of its digital operation to engage in online messaging both for Secretary Clinton and to push back against attackers on social media platforms like Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, and Instagram.
      So they admit theyre on here and other social media platforms pushing Clinton propaganda, yet I've yet to see an official "CTR flair" (other than maybe "I like hugs") revealing their employer. You know, a "this message is sponsored by this superPAC" type deal. Their budget has since been expanded to $6 million as well.
      This admin is a piece of shit. We know of "Reddits flak team" trying to hide the Stonetear story as well. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQcfjR4vnTQ
      Why would they want to hide the Stonetear story other than to protect Clinton?
      [–]callmejohny 14 points15 points16 points  (0 children)
      a simple look at the post histoties will tell everything. Actual shills hardly ever post outside their target areas.
      [–]HandofBaneMod - Lawful Evil 8 points9 points10 points  (0 children)
      Speculation either way on who is behind it. It's someone shilling one way or another, til someone can get some undeniable evidence proving who is running the bots.
      Then again, with how bad security has been for Hillary elsewhere, if it is CTR, something will leak soon enough.
      [–]Orgell_Evaan 25 points26 points27 points  (2 children)
      they’re humans too, just like you.
      Citation needed.
      [–]Devidose 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
      Greetings fellow meatballsbags.
      /totallynotrobots.
      Goddammit autocorrect.
      [–]cylth 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
      Especially since multiple times the exact same comment has been made by 3 users in the same sub.
      Or the times the exact same reply is seen in different comment chains and doesnt make sense. For example, somebody will use the exact same anti-Trump rant whens Trumps name is mentioned in a comment, but the rant will make zero sense in some instances because the rant will talk about his taxes or something when the comment chain is talking about immigration.
      Almost like they have bots that have bugs. Its obvious sometimes. Like I said, Ive seen identical replies to comments that have completely different subjects.
      This is all coming from somebody who hates Trump too. The propaganda is blatantly obvious and the admins are complicit.
      [–]sectionizer 38 points39 points40 points  (1 child)
      $.05 has been deposited into your account!
      [–]Seriouscatt 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      Please, /u/redtaboo is on the premium tier, they get $0.06 per post
      [–]jcvynn 48 points49 points50 points  (3 children)
      You guys need to institute measures of transparency and show us what is going on in the background. As it is you are simply asking us to take it on faith, but there is no good faith with you anymore.
      [–]HandofBaneMod - Lawful Evil 13 points14 points15 points  (2 children)
      Just gonna point out, the transparency thing has been brought up to a degree in the new mod/admin communications sub, and will be brought up in more detail over the next few weeks of discussion there. If nobody else makes a big deal about it, I will, personally.
      [–]TheScoresWhat 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
      We want ban logs from r/politics
      [–]jcvynn 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      Glad to hear it.
      [–]misquotes_wikipedia 9 points10 points11 points  (0 children)
      It's fitting, now, that reddit admins have to wear scarlet letters.
      [–]AnnArchist 17 points18 points19 points  (1 child)
      It shouldnt be a default sub anymore.
      We cant get evidence bc the mod logs are private. All fp subs should open their books
      [–]ITSigno 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
      /r/politics isn't a default anymore. hasn't been for a year or two.
      Edit: Default Subs as of May 2016: http://archive.is/9xLSJ
      [–]Tz0pp33 55 points56 points57 points  (0 children)
      Thank you for lying.
      [–]Gamejunkiey 8 points9 points10 points  (1 child)
      Beyond all that please remember they’re humans too, just like you.
      AKA "I know they treat everyone like shit but please don't call them out on it, pretty please! It hurts their feewings :("
      [–]AdamrisesMisogymaster of the White Guy Defense Force 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
      Its always fun how often the "why can't you just be nice?" angle is played whenever someone on this side of the fence gets momentum in deconstruction something.
      But on the other side they can treat us as if we are not even human, and wish pox upon our entire lineage with hearty chuckles abound.
      [–]TheScoresWhat 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
      Have the ban log opened so we can confirm that. I have seen and heard hundreds of examples of mods bias in banning, deleting posts, etc... All the mods are new and it looks like they are paid. Why can't you tell us how many bans they have made in the last 6 months? Why can't the log be opened? Why can't you review a thread where a trump supporter is banned for not being civil and point out the dozens of Hillary "supporters" in the same thread breaking the same rule and not getting banned. I was falsely banned. You won't do anything for me. They made up rule breaking when I asked why. My ban was for being against Hillary
      [–]ErnestNyx 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
      In the case of /r/politics there has never been any proof of wrongdoing.
      [–]ThizzleManTits 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
      Poor baby moderators
      [–]SwiebelKuchen 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      What, exactly, do you think proof would look like?
      When people are going to /r/the_donald for news during major news events like the Pulse shooting instead of /r/news because of the censorship you know you have a problem, even if there is no "proof."
      /r/politics is a toxic sub. It used to be a default, but everyone is fleeing it because of heavy handed (read decidedly SJW) moderation. /r/news and /r/worldnews have similar issues. SRS blatantly violates rules against brigading and doxxing on a regular basis I've seen proof of that dozens of times, yet you do nothing. The moment a sub that doesn't match standard SJW politics violates a rule they are punished harshly. That's circumstantial evidence of serious bias. There is no smoking gun. It's very rare that someone will publicly admit wrong doing, so we are left with circumstantial evidence. There is a mountain of it.
      I propose you conduct an experiment. Make a throwaway account and post X number of legitimate pro-Trump stories to /r/politics if Y or more are moderated away (you choose what X and Y would have to be for you to be convinced) then you have your proof. I'm sure if you post what X and Y would have to be people here or T_D will be happy to help you.
      [–]Bigcat92 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      How does it feel to be a cuck?
      [–]CuckedByTRUMP 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
      Paid workers do not represent the values of the people on this site. Their opinions are PAID opinions. Calling them humans is disgusting. They are corporate interest and nothing else. You would know, your parent company donated money to Hillary Clinton's campaign: http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/all_recips.php?id=D000041920&cycle=2014&nid=
      You pretend like there is no proof. (There is.) You donated money to her campaign and you changed the algorithm to shut up The_Donald. You are doing everything in your power to help her get elected.
      [–]SpectroSpecter 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
      Even though I post here regularly I consider myself neutral enough to say this: don't bother. Nobody here is going to believe you no matter what you say because you're part of the establishment they hate. I have no doubt that CTR is a real thing, but I also have no doubt that there are plenty of non-shills that spend 20 hours a day on reddit shitting on trump because they have nothing else in their lives. Unfortunately on reddit you're either on "my team" or you're a shill.
      But at least here they're up front about it instead of being invested in a web of lies and collusion like most other political subs.
      [–]IFuckSJWsDaily 2 points3 points4 points  (6 children)
      Fuck you, you're all owned by them and you see it too but do nothing.
      [–]HandofBaneMod - Lawful Evil[M] 32 points33 points34 points  (5 children)
      This is where I start telling people to chill the fuck out and recognize something important in that admin comment. What's one of our own core tenets here? Provide evidence to back claims - it's part of Rule 7, and has been a core of "Trust but Verify" for the last two years on KiA.
      Shit can reek, and people can know it, but without evidence, you aren't going to get action that can potentially backfire on them.
      [–]IFuckSJWsDaily comment score below threshold-9 points-8 points-7 points  (4 children)
      Providing evidence does nothing, do you remember Orlando? Reasoning doesn't work with people like this.
      [–]HandofBaneMod - Lawful Evil 12 points13 points14 points  (3 children)
      Providing evidence does nothing,
      If you have provided evidence, and it's ignored, it can be taken to the friendlier parts of the media to get published, giving the site a massive black eye, and costing them money in the bigger picture. You don't think Twitter crashed on its own without the intervention of a multitude of sites pointing out the extreme anti-conservative bias their own moderation was showing, do you?
      Turning yourself into a fucking lynch mob with only circumstantial evidence, at best, makes you no better than the fucking SJWs.
      [–]IFuckSJWsDaily -4 points-3 points-2 points  (2 children)
      Alright bro then go ahead show them evidence maybe fucking CNN will run a story on censorship
      [–]HandofBaneMod - Lawful Evil 10 points11 points12 points  (1 child)
      CNN had fuckall to do with Twitter's shit - that was Breitbart, Reason, etc. Hell, you can go back within the last 3 hours to see a post of where that shit has gotten Twitter: Apple, Google and Disney backed off from making offers to buy it out.
      Feel free to keep playing the hyperbole, though. It only helps reinforce your lack of giving a shit about the reality of the situation. You don't get shit done by just bitching about it and calling people liars or shills. You get shit done by gathering incontrovertable evidence, offering a chance to admit the evidence is legit and for something to be done about it, then if nothing gets done, the evidence buries them without you needing to do much more than present it to people who can spread it.
      Notice, /u/redtaboo isn't denying anything about there being shills around - there is no denying that, as the screencap provided above shows. What she is pointing out is that there is no direct evidence that moderators are receiving money - which is what the sitewide rules cover, and can be acted on.
      [–]IFuckSJWsDaily -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
      Alright bro, whatever you say, Jesus loves you.
      [–]ninjaofpatience 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Are paid cracked editors still being paid to moderate /r/BestofCracked/
      [–]tfwnomagagf 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
      Shut up gayboy, go play in traffic, literally noone is buying any of your shit.
      [–]pinkerbelleI find your lack of Meow disturbing[M] 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      knock it off
      consider this an official R1 warning
      [–][deleted]  (1 child)
      [deleted]
        [–]HandofBaneMod - Lawful Evil[M] 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Consider this an official Rule 1 warning. Don't do that shit - attack arguments not people.
        [–]johnchapel 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        There was no proof of FPH doxxing either, but that didnt stop you guys from being big ol pussies about it and nuking the sub. Make a fucking throwaway and GET proof, you lazyass. It's not hard. Jesus

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