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submitted by thedignityofstruggle Other: Deep Green Pagan Doomerist
Thinking today about Richard Spencer getting punched (elbowed?) it dawned on me that this strike was brilliant for the simple reason that Spencer and his ilk position him/themselves as strong. The impressionable people, mostly young, whom they try to recruit are likely feeling isolated and powerless, you know, like most of us are made to feel by capitalism and the state.
It is the image of a position of power and strength that Spencer is selling to young disaffected people. He is saying, "join this cause, with other people like you, and together we will be strong." (Which quite literally stems from the root definition of fascism). Of course, there is nothing wrong with finding likeminded souls out there in this crazy world, but Spencer's unity offers false solutions to false problems, blaming the dissatisfaction and powerlessness one feels on non-white, non-male people mucking up civilization.
Punching him on camera completely dismantles this mystique. His work to present himself as an alpha paragon to be aspired to is now ten times harder, because, "Arent you that guy who got punched in that internet meme?"
Further, the hierarchical nature of alt-right organizations and Spencer's seat at the top of such an organization means it can be quite easy to demoralize the entire unit. Everyone subordinate to him in his organization was essentially just punked. Its a going to be a lot harder for them to sell their organization to young people as a pathway to increased personal power.
So to our mysterious puncher, kudos! And to anyone out there who gets the chance, punch him again. Maybe throw a poke-ball down on the ground afterwards for maximum memitude.
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[–]almondmint anarchist 52 points53 points54 points  (10 children)
A lot of people will claim this action was bad because it legitimizes and victimizes fascists, but what I've seen from looking at some r/politics threads on the event is general praise for it and calls for bashing the fash, the first time I've ever seen something like that from liberals. I've even seen some praise for the black bloc, albeit sparse, which is something I never thought I would see.
TL;DR: Punching nazis is effective.
[–]KropotkinIsLove anarcho-communist- Red, Black and Proud 41 points42 points43 points  (4 children)
I think this video of the black bloc rescuing disabled people and children from riot police thugs also helped a lot opening liberals up for radical ideas.
[–]gypsydrifter 8 points9 points10 points  (3 children)
Didn't see that, linky?
[–]almondmint anarchist 6 points7 points8 points  (2 children)
Pretty sure it's this: https://youtu.be/FhSStrXjEfk
[–]TurtleTamer69x Other: EDGELORD 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
The best part is when the cop is spraying the guy whos helping the disabled person retreat, it's priceless propaganda for these people.
[–]amerigogreat 2 points3 points4 points  (4 children)
r/politics is basically comprised of Clintonite liberals. They hate everyone against her and the Dems, they're not radicals, quite the opposite most of the time actually.
[–]almondmint anarchist 11 points12 points13 points  (3 children)
I'm pretty sure most of them are Sanders supporters. But I agree with you, they are not radicals, which is why I was surprised by their approval of nazi punching. Things like this can help radicalize some of them.
[–]IntrigueDossier anarcho-hyphenate 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Every liberal is a nervous potential ally standing stuck on the diving board of true theory and action.
At the end of the day though, everyone, secretly or not, wants to do a cannonball.
[–]amerigogreat 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
Really? Every thread I go to on there has them moaning about evil Berniebros and whatnot, while saying how perfect Hillary is. Probably because I only go to the muh hacked election threads
[–]almondmint anarchist 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
To be honest, I have mostly stayed away from the place for some time now and only went there to check their reaction to the protests; the circlejerk might have changed in nature during this time. You could very easily be right.
[–]EroticCake anarchist without adjectives 33 points34 points35 points  (2 children)
When the camera zooms in on him afterwards, he looks like he's crying as well. Definitely dismantles the "alpha warrior of the white race" image he tries to project.
[–]ScoutKnuckleball 8 points9 points10 points  (1 child)
Yeah, he looked like he was going to tell his mommy.
[–]Ecti anarchist 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
"More GBP please."
[–]rechelon anarcho-transhumanist| post-left | pro-market | fight nihilism 29 points30 points31 points  (0 children)
Yup.
This is a major component of why violence works against fascists. Their ideologies are intentionally incoherent, they're not about a claim to factually represent the world but rather supposed to serve as flags with which you might identify to gain power. Deny them the trappings of power, shatter their illusion of power, and you deny them their appeal.
[–]hamjam5 anarcho-Nietzschean 48 points49 points50 points  (13 children)
This is so true, great post.
The reactionaries have a narrative of themselves as virile and strong, and the people who join them do so because they don't feel that way on their own, and, by joining, they are able to. By showing them as targeted, vulnerable, and weak more so than they have ever been before precisely because they have joined that group it bursts one of the central bubbles they are organizing around. It takes away the luster and charm of the identity that membership in their little racist group conferred on them.
Targeting and humiliating them, especially their leaders, is a brilliant and perfect response to reactionary organizing. It cuts right at the root of the psychological rewards that disaffected people get for joining them. It subverts the entire thing, taking it from a group that empowers them and makes them feel strong, safe and important, to a group that connects them to humiliation and makes them feel disappointed, weak, and more at risk than ever.
These reactionary leaders are meme bubbles. Popping them like this leaves them and their supporters deflated.
[–]FriedSoup communalistFrom the ground up 21 points22 points23 points  (6 children)
The meme giveth and the meme taketh away.
[–]Aeon_Mortuum 7 points8 points9 points  (5 children)
Does the alt-reich use Pepe as one of its symbols or something? Why did he have it during the video?
[–]Wunishikan 7 points8 points9 points  (2 children)
It does.
[–]Grashe communist 15 points16 points17 points  (1 child)
Best part of the vid for me was he was clocked describing what a Pepe was. You can't make that shit up.
[–]Wxnzxn anarcho-communist 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
It lend itself perfectly for appropriating the stupid "the moment you realise you aren't on the internet anymore"-meme, with the berniecrat being faced by a Trump biker, the alt-right had created some time before. It was a thing of beauty.
[–]LeftwingReble anarcho-syndicalist/AntiFascist 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
yeah, a meme that pretty much became a symbol of the alt right by frequent usage of it
[–]Smugcuck Stirnerist anarchist 8 points9 points10 points  (3 children)
The reactionaries have a narrative of themselves as virile and strong, and the people who join them do so because they don't feel that way on their own, and, by joining, they are able to.
I don't disagree but I feel like this criticism of reactionaries could potentially be thrown back at us. I'm sure some radical leftists have self-esteem issues and feel stronger by teaming up with comrades.
Targeting and humiliating them, especially their leaders, is a brilliant and perfect response to reactionary organizing.
The reactionaries are always targeting and humiliating us, and this may have made the far left less popular? I mean with the memes about SJWs, "Rekt Feminist Videos", and such.
Of course, don't get me wrong, I'm in support of giving the reactionaries a taste of their own medicine. That's a great idea.
[–]thedignityofstruggle Other: Deep Green Pagan Doomerist[S] 16 points17 points18 points  (1 child)
People on the left do join together to feel stronger, to be sure. But the source of the strength we hope to achieve stems from trying to be better and lift one and other up, and not just those within our circle, but those on the outside as well.
Anarchists don't want to raise themselves by stepping on the necks of others suffering under capitalism. We dont look at ourselves in the mirror, see a few genetic traits, and claim "clearly i am the ultimate in human evolution." Anarchists want to feed the homeless, reach out to the prisoner, prevent the war waged against the foreign poor, etc. We see ourselves in every human face and know that our freedom results first from extending it to the next person.
[–]ryzal4 green anarchist 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
It cuts right at the root of the psychological rewards that disaffected people get for joining them.
I wouldn't say it cuts at the root, exactly. It doesn't do much about the hole people are trying to fill with fascism; it just disrupts fascism's ability to fill that hole (which is absolutely a good thing, but we also need to be providing a positive alternative at the same time).
[–]thedignityofstruggle Other: Deep Green Pagan Doomerist[S] 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
I wrote the post above when I was pretty tired. Your wording is far superior to mine. Thanks!
[–]owkzug 20 points21 points22 points  (2 children)
If you're going to do it, make sure they are actually fascists. No mistakes.
[–]thedignityofstruggle Other: Deep Green Pagan Doomerist[S] 19 points20 points21 points  (1 child)
For sure. Violence isnt to be a wrecking ball, but a sharp blade.
[–]IntrigueDossier anarcho-hyphenate 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Aye, surgical.
Precision.
[–]NominalismIsASpook- Burn it all down till the sun burns out too! 18 points19 points20 points  (2 children)
Strong leadership is an organizational weakness, and we just poked it.
[–]Irishginger13 anarcho-communist 3 points4 points5 points  (1 child)
"Sever the head, kill the body" used to be the old motto. Wonder if they're still debating leaderless resistance though.
[–]IntrigueDossier anarcho-hyphenate 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
"I'll say that again, by "removing the head, or destroying the brain.""
[–]AbortusLuciferum- fash sit down or get put down 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
Exactly. There are people who are attracted to the concept of strength, in it's most basic, animalistic form. In the face of a left wing that allows itself to be ridiculed nonstop, these people who would otherwise attach themselves to left-wing values see themselves unable to associate with a cause he sees as humiliating. And so the alternative is fascism.
Therefore we must offer these people a humane alternative, that projects strength and doesn't take ridicule without a response.
I'm reminded of some footage I saw of one guy wearing a MAGA hat going up to the face of many chanting protesters and shoving his middle finger to their faces one by one. And the protesters let him do it, all while mindlessly chanting the same meaningless words. Some people see this and get utterly repulsed by leftist values, and these same people would not be as repulsed if one of the protesters threw an elbow to the guy's face in self defense.
We must detect these moments where people are blatantly taking advantage of the left's wimpyness and make a statement to onlookers that the left is not gonna take it sitting down anymore.
[–]haydukehuxley green anarchist 2 points3 points4 points  (6 children)
Yup. Here's my question: How do we prepare for the violent blow back?
I've accepted that political violence is on the ascent. I also believe that, tactically, anarchists and leftist are going to need to square its use within a broader strategy of resistance. But I don't naturally gravitate to violence. I've never thrown, or more importantly, taken a punch. Been tackled and handcuffed plenty, I also like to think I live a lifestyle that keeps me pretty tough. But what about the fact that I just don't like violence. You got any ideas short of "join a fight club."?
[–]thedignityofstruggle Other: Deep Green Pagan Doomerist[S] 8 points9 points10 points  (4 children)
I think disliking violence might be part of being good at practically applying it, to an extent, so that you dont over use it.
I have no love of it, and honestly don't enjoy the idea of hurting anyone. Its my greater disdain for those that desire to hurt others weaker than them and watching that trend on the move that makes me accept that a time for violence as defense does come.
Read Camus' Letters to a German Friend for a bit of insight. That and join a fight gym.
[–]haydukehuxley green anarchist 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
I like any answer to "how do I toughen up?" that involves reading French existentialism. That I can do. If I can't afford a gym membership, you think something like a punching bag might be a decent DIY alternative? I could always just have my badass wife practice her self defense moves on me. She might kill me though.
[–]thedignityofstruggle Other: Deep Green Pagan Doomerist[S] 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
I suggest the book because I am all about mind, body, and soul. Fill the mind, train the body, nurture the soul.
Its hard to be better at fighting without fighting, unfortunately. Your body needs to go through the motions enough times to the point that your muscles can almost react without thinking. Also, being good at fighting requires the ability to be calm and breathe during a fight. This is hard to do without practice.
[–]apparatus86 LGBT anarchist 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
Can you share a link to the book? Google is giving me mixed results.
[–]thedignityofstruggle Other: Deep Green Pagan Doomerist[S] 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
I believe the essays are in the compendium book "Resistance, Rebellion and Death." I think they are the first four essays of the book. (Its basically a four part essay, easy to read, not too long.)
[–]amerigogreat 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
There won't be any violent blowback. The alt-right is not to be feared on the streets. They're lightyears away from the actual serious fascists in certain parts of Europe. Their primary weapon is their formidable propaganda network on the Internet, punching them only affects their morale and that only for a short while.
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[–]thedignityofstruggle Other: Deep Green Pagan Doomerist[S] 5 points6 points7 points  (2 children)
How does shit eat cuck?
[–]Sutekh137 LGBT anarchist 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
messily, I'd guess.
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[–]thedignityofstruggle Other: Deep Green Pagan Doomerist[S] 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Hey everyone, an internet tough guy! Guess what dude, i have guns too.
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