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/u/RoadsterFan needs to gfto this subreddit (self.boston)

kount_chokula が 投稿

Ever since the march he has turned it up a few notches and I've seen two instances of where his posts had to be removed.

Alot of you say to not respond to him and to just ignore him, but you know what would be the easiest way to ignore him? To not let him post here anymore.

just my 2 cents

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[–]hythloth 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This whole discussion reminds me of geek social fallacy #1 from this article: http://www.plausiblydeniable.com/opinion/gsf.html

Ostracizers are not evil, a community has every right to throw people the fuck out.

[–]hotmetalslugs 109 ポイント110 ポイント  (22子コメント)

As a longtime gameserver and forums admin, I suggest: if they have deserved the ban, administer the ban. Probably permanent. And don't address it.

Ban, move on. Don't reply.

But don't ever get into this "what should we do about him?" stuff.

You're the moderator. You determined he broke the rules sufficiently, let him go and speak not of it again.

[–]arentersaction 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I think kount_chokula is not a moderator, they are suggesting the ban. I think its nice and community like for mods to discuss it but I agree we wouldnt want to talk about this many times.

[–]kount_chokula[S] 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (2子コメント)

if I was moderator I would have theme nights for /r/Boston. tiki night. james bond night. steel mill night. you know, stuff like that.

[–]member_member5thNov 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I could go for a james bond tiki bar in a steel mill night.

[–]kount_chokula[S] 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

when we have steel mill night we can post about our favorite steel mills from all over boston. exciting, right?!

[–]alltheacro 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (17子コメント)

Somewhere there was a post that made it to the front page about a study of online communities which found that they worked better when they had more stringent rules regarding discourse...I've been trying to hunt it down, unsuccessfully.

There are virtually zero rules here about conduct aside from "don't harass people", and that's not enough.

Virtually all of the default subs have rules banning personal attacks/insults, racism/sexism/homophobia, etc. Hell, just being rude to people can get your comment deleted in a lot of places on reddit, and in /r/politics, insulting another user will get you banned, no discussion, warning or second chances. /r/science and several other subs cull 'low effort' comments and the like. And you know what? Those subs are a joy to hang around in. The signal to noise ratio is quite high. The obnoxious, immature morons get chased off, and the people who are interested in actual meaningful discussion? They stick around. Put more effort into their comments. Etc.

[–]jpallanPeople's Republic of Cambridge 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I do agree to some extent. I hang around /r/askhistorians for obvious reasons. (Maybe not so obvious. I have a degree in history. Done.)

But without low-effort comments, we wouldn't get gems like Papa Geno's in Brockton. There is a definite culture in /r/boston, just like every damn /r/askreddit thread will have something about broken arms or Jolly Ranchers. (If you don't know, don't ask, it's terrible.)

Bostonians are a salty people. We don't tend to curse you out while you're walking down the street (behind the wheel of a car is a different matter) and we don't give tourists fake directions, but we have an acerbic sense of humor. I don't actually object to insults. Yeah, we get attacked a lot, and return the favor a lot. You grow a thick skin around here, or you move back to whatever small town you came from. It's not like we wanted you here anyway.

But blatant hate speech, lazy insults, consistent trolling, and so on … it never freaking stops around here, and it's got to go if this place is to remain usable. I don't care that this is a downvote heavy place. I don't care that here, you get shitposts and bullshit comments for asking honest questions. (Though I agree about the tourists who need to check the sidebar and tell us none of what they're doing here or even when they plan to come here.)

But getting hateful comments is another matter entirely. They're not insults. They're talking about how people of other races shouldn't live here, about how people "deserve" to die, about how an innocent kid gone missing was probably kidnapped by lesbians. Come on. There is a line. Make it a three strikes thing if you have to, with warnings where the commenter is notified. But draw a line in the sand.

[–]chrissiethereseWaltham[M] 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Thank you; it's something moderation will look into.

[–]Jonas223XCNorth MetroWest 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Please don't do turn /r/Boston into a safe space. Tolerance is measured not by how you treat your friends, but by how you treat your enemies. Even if you think that his opinions are wrong, we still all gain from having diversity in opinions here.

Thanks! :)

[–]klocwerk 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Banning trolls and personal attacks isn't a "safe space," it's basic internet forum hygiene.

[–]thewineburglar 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is not. I repeat not about blocking someone with different opinions. It is not. It is about blocking someone who is a poison on this sub. His sudo conservative opinions are irrelevant to why this is even being brought up

[–]CamNewtonJr 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

No one gains from hate speech. Hate speech actively fights against diversity of opinion becuase hate speech silences those who are the targets of said hate speech. So we wont suddenly become a safe space if you ban hate speech

[–]kount_chokula[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

how is this a safe space? We're talking about one person.

Also we are not talking about his opinions. We're talking about the relevancy of his comments and when that becomes trolling.

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    [–]jpallanPeople's Republic of Cambridge 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You know, if someone gets reported by a diverse number of people constantly, then perhaps the community doesn't want them. It doesn't sound like rocket science. He doesn't fit with the community and he pisses everyone off.

    I don't disagree that /r/boston has a saltiness about it, but I really doubt there are that many users who are obvious, ongoing problems. I don't want this to become a circlejerk where anyone who posts against the flow is banned, but right now, the pendulum has swung so far to the idea of "allow everything" that it's becoming well-nigh unusable.

    Common sense should prevail. The fact that he posts non-controversial articles all the time is, as /u/bonochromatic stated, his entrance fee in exchange for being a sanctimonious jackass every which way all over the place.

    We do not need this.

    [–]thewineburglar 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (29子コメント)

    I've felt this way before myself. My main frustration is I can't wrap my head around what kind of legit bad person gets their rocks off by acting like this. I can't understand the appeal of being a complete irrational dickhead.

    I've come to the conclusion that anyone who sits there getting joy out of the frustration or harm they cause strangers has to just be a sad pathetic person. Knowing that makes me a little less annoyed by them. When you picture what kind of pathetic lack of a human they must be it makes them a lot less harmful.

    Put a party had on the boogie man and he's just not scary anymore.

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      [–]ScipioA 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (21子コメント)

      The person behind u/RoadsterFan has haunted Boston's cyberspace for years and used it as a platform to rant about a small list of hates. Uhub and archboston are where I've seen them the most, but there was also that one trolling incident so bad that the local TV news did a hilarious story on it.

      Their comments have derailed many good discussions and eventually earned them a ban from several of these sites, which always end up better off after the ban. The mod team here should lay down the banhammer, and ban any alts or parachute accounts that pop up afterwards.

      [–]kount_chokula[S] 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (18子コメント)

      but there was also that one trolling incident so bad that the local TV news did a hilarious story on it

      wha

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        [–]fungwahCambridge 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        He said if he had had all the information up front, he would have never posted his concerns.

        He needs to take this logic and apply it to his entire posting history.

        [–]MiTPenguin 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Hold up.

        Are you saying that's roadsterfan?

        [–]member_member5thNov 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        holy. fucking. shit.

        [–]dazedwit 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        He is all over the internet

        [–]jpallanPeople's Republic of Cambridge 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (10子コメント)

        This is very clearly identifying him by name and hometown, and that's not okay. I realize you posted under a throwaway, but not okay at all.

        I realize he's an asshole, but you in turn don't need to be an asshole yourself.

        [–]alltheacro 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Dude. He's a massively, massively prolific troll who has been at it for almost a decade, to the extent that mainstream media has done stories about him. He's incredibly well known and easily recognized as a result.

        [–]hythloth 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (4子コメント)

        Sounds like he's a public figure, so what grounds does he have to complain about being uncovered?

        [–]jpallanPeople's Republic of Cambridge -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

        He's not a public figure. He's a troll and rude, and I don't disagree that the news piece absolutely had a place at the time.

        However, it connects the reddit handle with the actual name, and I don't think that's okay.

        I don't like him and have made my own arguments in this thread to ban him, but I am going based on what he writes here, rather than his private identity. I don't think his private identity is the slightest bit relevant.

        I don't care if you're Mother Teresa in your day job — if you adhere to the Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory, I don't want to interact with you online.

        And if you constantly act like that, frankly, I think you deserve a time-out from the Internet until you can learn how to use it appropriately, and act like your mama raised you right.

        [–]hythloth 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        I'd say his private identity is relevant in this case, since we're talking about an individual who has a longstanding, pervasive history of this type of behavior across not only the internet, but also the "real world" communities that we operate in. This is very relevant information for the decision-makers of this sub's policies going forward.

        I do agree that his name could have been redacted, but I'm glad this article was shared in that it paints a picture of what we are dealing with.

        [–]jpallanPeople's Republic of Cambridge 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Sure. I just think it could have been sent in modmail. I don't think it needed to be linked with his identity on reddit publicly.

        [–]tronald_dump 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        actually ive been told Roadster has run for public office on at least one occasion, thereby making him a public figure.

        i cant give you any details, because ive never cared long enough to research.

        [–]BluShine 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Don't dish it out if you can't take it.

        He went online to publicly complain about his neighbors and used their real name and other identifying information. When you do shit like that, you don't get to turn around and complain when people also use your real name.

        [–]derp_derp_derpMission Hill 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Not even being sarcastic, you should be a mod. You probably know better, though.

        [–]jpallanPeople's Republic of Cambridge 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I'm guilty of as much shitposting and bullshit as most everyone else here. I just have some hard lines, and one of them is making it possible to track down someone from the Internet.

        People can and have tracked me down, which is one reason I no longer use any kind of pseudonym. It helps me keep myself from going too far off the rails, and losing anonymity you thought you had feels like a major violation. (Having someone offer to rape my then 3-year-old daughter and beat my then newborn to death didn't really appeal, either.)

        I'm open about who I am, but I assume anyone using a username that is not clearly a pseudonym of long standing openly associated with their real identity is not ready for that openness.

        So, doxxing is one of my hard lines. Anything that could result in people showing up at somebody's apartment is too far. Or telephoning them. Or harassing their employers. All of this is not … really optimal.

        I don't like /u/roadster_fan. I don't intend to defend his right to be a part of this particular community on reddit. It's a bridge he soaked in kerosene himself, and I'm not saying one damn thing about whether someone throws a match.

        But I will, without hesitation, underline that it's completely not okay to make it possible to share our opinions with him in person. I'd react the same way to even as relatively obscure a piece of information as his private, non-professional e-mail address, let alone giving his full name and hometown. That article led me to his LinkedIn and a bunch of other references.

        [–]derp_derp_derpMission Hill[M] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        You actually had the moral high ground and you went and violated one of the like three reddit global rules that are enforced

        Don't fucking dox people, dickheads.

        Thank you to those that reported this.

        [–]chrissiethereseWaltham[M] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        PM us links.

        [–]chrissiethereseWaltham[M] 61 ポイント62 ポイント  (144子コメント)

        Just saw this post, after I banned him for 48 hours. So he PMs nonstop to complain about being harassed and demand to know what rules he has violated. I assert that he harasses users. He does however have regular posts. I am willing to ban him permanently, but there are outcries when that happens that the mods are censoring. So I'm asking the community's opinion. He would have been banned long before this if the community wasn't so negative on moderation.

        Feedback is welcome.

        [–]byronsucks 87 ポイント88 ポイント  (8子コメント)

        While he does post legit articles he always uses the comments as a platform to troll and just be an insufferable dweeb. He posts inflammatory garbage just to be obnoxious and nothing about it fosters fun, interesting or engaging discussion.

        edit: just one of a plethora of examples - this is a response to someone posting about a missing person in the area: http://i.imgur.com/hJ53aMy.png

        I genuinely cannot comprehend how pathetic and mentally ill you have to be to think this is worthwhile at all.

        [–]everydayisamixtapeSomerville 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I moderated a local community before, and we opted to boot people for behavior like this. If it's in the Globe, it will end up in the sub anyway.

        [–]chrissiethereseWaltham[M] 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (4子コメント)

        I agree, and thanks for your input. The mods still need community backing on action on roadsterfan and overall.

        u/cookiecatgirl and u/bhickey_

        [–]alohadaveQuincy 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Why? The rest of aren't moderators of this sub. You are literally the only people who can make this decision, and no matter what you decide someone will be mad.

        Deciding to ban someone shouldn't be up for a community vote. It's an executive decision that you as moderators need to make. Getting input from members is one thing, but letting the inmates run the asylum is not the answer.

        [–]The-Big-AristotleDorchester 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        start9

        start9

        start9

        [–]FuckBernieSanders420GBA 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        You've got my support, swing the

        BANHAMMER

        [–]Mitch_from_BostonG.B.A. 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I think he just has a stoic sense of humor that most cannot grasp.

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          [–]highlander311Is the Wynn open yet? 72 ポイント73 ポイント  (2子コメント)

          Wait so /u/Roadsterfan can't respond?!

          Cars should be banned from all streets in Boston and the only people allowed to work are illegal transgendered immigrants.

          [–]member_member5thNov 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Mopeds can marry anyone they want! all streets are now crosswalks!

          [–]MintyAnt 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Biker bright lights reflect off crosswalk paint blinding driver, causing accident (into said biker)

          [–]thewineburglar 56 ポイント57 ポイント  (38子コメント)

          I am NOT a fan of censorship. At. All. However, I am even less of a fan of bully tolls who bring negativity and frustration to people on a daily basis.

          Every single day he is a disruptor. At some point we are all to blame for not putting an end to it.

          By banning one dickhead we are not all laying back and allowing censorship to roll in, we are just fixing a problem.

          So in this case I say, ban the jerk. No sweat off my back. I will gladly wake tomorrow with him completely forgotten.

          [–]chrissiethereseWaltham[M] 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (27子コメント)

          Right, that still doesn't explain the tipping point of censorship.

          People who spam post "kill yourself cunts" get users caping for them on here.

          So why is that censorship if they contribute nothing but spam?

          On the contrary to people that are defended on here, u/roadsterfan contributed real posts.

          This is what baffles me about users here.

          [–]CallMeOatmealMark Wahlberg did 9/11 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Right, that still doesn't explain the tipping point of censorship.

          There is no "tipping point of censorship" on Reddit. Reddit has moderation, which is a form of censorship. We're already censoring. The mistake is to think that censorship is a naughty word. This is a private community with clear rules regarding conduct. This is not a government or a democracy. Appropriately-applied censorship is a vital tool for subreddits to keep content on-topic and productive.

          [–]Buoie 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (1子コメント)

          https://www.reddit.com/r/boston/comments/5n4o1v/cumberland_farms_store_at_bostons_addiction/dc8uezf/?context=3

          He is literally here to troll alternative viewpoints and not to facilitate discussion. If he wants that, he should start his own blog and GTFO. He very clearly had no interest in engaging anyone in a meaningful way, if you would take the time to read through his post submissions and comments.

          Quite clearly, he acts like the quintessential bully. He spouts off whatever offensive bullshit he wants but whenever anyone else says something in retort he calls it offensive, bullying, harassing, or what have you. Clearly he wants to dish it but cannot take it.

          He's essentially crying wolf/crying foul when people call him on it. It's pretty fucking night and day. Don't grant him a safe space for being a human piece of excrement on any forum. This wouldn't be the first place he's been banned from.

          [–]chrissiethereseWaltham 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I agree that it's bullying tactics.

          [–]Dajbman22Purple Line 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          As a mod of one of the larger subs on Reddit... you can never please your entire community. It's just not possible. The key is constantly balancing freedom of expression with actually facilitating a decent place to congregate and have productive conversation. It takes a lot of trial and error, and you're going to fuck up, and no good deed will go unpunished, but ultimately, if you start trusting your own judgment as a moderator while listening (but not instantly capitulating) to your userbase, you'll find that ultimately the majority will be happy with some actual bans/moderation being carried out.

          [–]abhikavi 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          that still doesn't explain the tipping point of censorship.

          Imagine if this community were a town hall. Do you think he would've been asked to leave and not come back?

          Based on some of his more insensitive remarks (crude jokes about a missing girl, blaming cyclists for their own deaths, etc), I think he would have been. Those kinds of things would absolutely not fly in an IRL situation-- questions about 'censorship' wouldn't even happen.

          Censorship does not mean booting people for their cruelty, or their bullying, or their hate speech, or anything that is widely considered a detriment to the community. Free speech doesn't mean others are obligated to put up with your hateful bullshit.

          There's a line there. It's up to you to decide whether he's passed it or not-- but you have a load of users here chiming in to describe how they feel he has.

          [–]thewineburglar 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (13子コメント)

          You can't make everyone happy. But if you can prevent some from being hurt or upset I think that becomes the winning choice.

          [–]frauenarzZztDorchester 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (12子コメント)

          People can protect themselves from being hurt or upset by ignoring idiot trolls on the Internet, not taking everything they see on the Internet literally, and/or using the 'block' button if it's that big of a deal to them.

          I'm beginning to sympathize with this dickhead more and more and see why the term 'snowflake' gets thrown around. It's okay to disagree with people and have discussions, and it's even okay to ignore assholes, but censorship is a step in the wrong direction which creates a very slippery slope.

          [–]thewineburglar 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (11子コメント)

          This isn't some " snowflake" type situation. It's a group of people, let's call us a club, and we have a member of our club who is frequently making our club either angry, annoyed, hurt, or misled. He gives us a bad name on a daily basis and we don't owe him jack shit.

          [–]frauenarzZztDorchester 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (9子コメント)

          But that's not how public internet forums work. They're not a club. Like it or not, people don't need to be so delicate. You can block users. You can ignore them.

          I still haven't seen anyone showing any evidence that this person is harassing them or going out of their way to privately message/threaten or anything which would be considered an egregious violation of decency. This guy is just a dick that I don't agree with, but that doesn't mean we have a right to ban.

          [–]thewineburglar 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (8子コメント)

          People who do not frequent this sub should not have to feel the impact of our frequent trolls

          [–]frauenarzZztDorchester 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (7子コメント)

          Also a fair point. I kind of feel like most people who are able to login to Reddit and navigate here should be able to take idiots with a grain of salt. This is where the community plays a vital role, as we can say "Roadster fan eats a diet primarily consisting of feces and rectal thermometers and you should take what they say with a grain of salt"

          Reddit has always had an ability for the community to self-police without needing mod interaction.

          [–]thewineburglar 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (5子コメント)

          Yes. But if we are not allowing " safe spaces " for liberals we shouldn't deem this a "safe space" for trolls.

          [–]BluShine 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          "Self-policing" is just another way of saying "people taking the troll bait". Trolls want attention, even if it's just someone saying "ignore this guy".

          It's like if someone set up a laxative chocolate shop in your neighborhood. You could say "we can self-police this. Everyone in town knows that you should avoid that shop. And if you see someone walking into it, you should warn them." But there's always gonna be a new generation of kids or a new family from out-of-town who falls for the trick. You can waste the community's time by getting people to stand outside the shop all day and warn people. Or you can spare us the bullshit and close down the shop. Nobody likes the chocolate, we're not losing anything.

          [–]Red-helixMilton 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Part of it, though, is I'm not sure that you guys appreciate how easy to offend someone in this sub. Pitch an opposing opinion - i.e. decry a housing development, or support a block on a MJ shop - and the level of vitriol you'll get is shocking. No discourse, just millennial rage. You know it, I know it. Now tell me how that differs from trolling.

          This community is already pretty toxic, is what I'm saying. That leads some people (myself included) to stir the pot and watch egos run wild.

          I look at Roadsterfan this way: big egos attract trolls. If it wasn't him, it would be someone else.

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            [–]frauenarzZztDorchester 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (9子コメント)

            Or, we're setting a horrible precedent which says that anyone with differing opinions isn't welcome.

            [–]gaythrowaway890 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

            I mean Mitch from Boston has differing opinions and can be a pain, but nobody is calling for his ban since he actually contributes in different ways. I am a total fan of immersing myself in differing opinions and having respectful debates with people who disagree with me because I think living in an echo chamber is dangerous. However, Roadster does not seem like he wants to actually engage in conversations, he just likes throwing a grenade into threads and seeing how people react. If he started posting and commenting with an intent to engage in discourse, that would be awesome and I'd encourage it. I don't see him doing that anytime soon so maybe a longer temporary ban is the best course of action rather than permanent.

            [–]frauenarzZztDorchester 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Nice response. This is where you get into the "don't feed the troll" though. Who cares if they're leaving stupid comments, if we're not engaging with them it doesn't matter.

            [–]gaythrowaway890 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Not sure if you're being sincere or sarcastic. I feel like "don't feed the troll" works better for one-time or occasional troll, not someone who is as dedicated as Roadster.

            Like I said, I am not advocating a permanent ban, maybe just longer temporary ones after continued bad behavior.

            [–]thewineburglar 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            At this point it is not about him having a different opinion. It's he on a daily basis drops poison into this sub with zero constructive attributes.

            [–]Gordon_GanoDorchester 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

            Look, enticing people who aren't rude and vulgar to come to the forum is more important than protecting the 'free speech' of someone who's just out to be a jerk. It's really not an issue of differing opinions, stop acting like it is.

            [–]CallMeOatmealMark Wahlberg did 9/11 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Permanently ban. AND DON'T FEEL COMPELLED TO ANSWER HIS PM'S AND MODMAILS (you have a mute function - use it). You're the moderator team, you write the rules, and while we appreciate you asking the community for our opinion, you get final say on what kind of conduct is acceptable here. Just ban, mute, and move on.

            [–]chrissiethereseWaltham[M] 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (18子コメント)

            roadsterfan's comment on banning:

            u/RoadsterFan• 8 minutes ago Quote

            Intolerant, hateful people are not my responsibility.

            Should I call for a ban on everyone who has doxxed me, harassed me, or acted offensively towards me? Perhaps I'm to blame for not doing so.

            If you don't want to seem arbitrary and capricious, add some rules you can follow to help you decide the appropriate course of action for situations not listed.

            "abducted by lesbians" is a not unheard of figure of speech, which came to mind considering I do know some lesbians who went to the protests.

            Edit: this is a typical roadsterfan message that he sends to mods all the time. He is always talking about y'all harassing him.

            [–]fungwahCambridge 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            abducted by lesbians

            I just googled this and got nothing but porn. I'm going to go with "unheard figure of speech unless you're a racist troll with a fetish".

            [–]kount_chokula[S] 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (2子コメント)

            if people are indeed doxxing, harassing and acting offensively toward him because of the things he posts, it sounds like he'd be better off in the long run being banned for his own good.

            He is playing the victim card but in reality he probably instigated people. Where's the proof towards that as well?

            [–]frauenarzZztDorchester -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            You realize that you gave him way more attention than deserved just by creating this thread, right?

            [–]kount_chokula[S] 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            yeah, now he is banned for 2 days and he might be banned for more.

            he is no obi wan kenobi. hes not going to come back more powerful.

            [–]byronsucks 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            "abducted by lesbians" is a not unheard of figure of speech

            Even if this were the case (it's not), how is this appropriate whatsoever to post in a missing person thread? It's sad and low energy.

            [–]jpallanPeople's Republic of Cambridge 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

            I don't think doxxing is okay, but I also don't think behaving like an asshole all day is okay, either.

            [–]bakgwailoDorchester 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

            I doubt anyone doxxed them either.

            [–]jpallanPeople's Republic of Cambridge 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Well, they were doxxed in the comments of this thread. It's not cool.

            [–]bakgwailoDorchester 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Yeah... just saw that.

            [–]thewineburglar 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

            When we let the patients run the nut house we all lose.

            [–]dangdoodlewang 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            In which case the mods should make their own decision and ignore your input too, correct?

            [–]MMAHipster 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            You asked the forum's opinion on this. Seems pretty obvious to me if you read the comments and look at the up and downvotes.

            [–]bookyfaceOrange Line 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Get this jackass out of here.

            [–]comrhWatertown 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            If you don't want to seem arbitrary and capricious, add some rules you can follow to help you decide the appropriate course of action for situations not listed.

            This isn't a bad idea but him still defending his "abducted by lesbians" comment is just trash. He won't even own up to saying something shitty it a thread about a missing person.

            [–]derp_derp_derpMission Hill 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Publishing private messages like this doesn't really send a good signal to the rest of the userbase.

            [–]member_member5thNov 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I'm glad to see it and think it is relevant.

            I'm glad /u/chrissietherese posted it.

            It was the right call.

            [–]member_member5thNov 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (3子コメント)

            I wish you had banned him long ago.

            [–]shazammerbammer 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Is there a silent ban, so he doesn't know he's banned? Then he won't just make a new account?

            [–]mkeb13 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I come on here fairly often, but don't post on it a ton. One name I know by heart, is his. Mainly because every time I see it, he's trolling or spewing hate. If even lurkers like me see it, then it must be happening a lot. I enjoy this community though. Less negativity is always a good thing.

            [–]bonochromatic 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (3子コメント)

            I support an immediate, complete and permanent ban. If he wants he's welcome to start his own subreddit, with blackjack and hookers.

            [–]jpallanPeople's Republic of Cambridge 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Realistically, /r/massachusetts is toxic in a bitter right-winger kind of way, so he'd fit in brilliantly there.

            [–]i_willregretthis 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Cheddarjack

            [–]739562529 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Ban him. I can read ignorant, racist opinions on pretty much every other subreddit. r/boston will be just fine without it.

            [–]Drunkelves 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (6子コメント)

            I'm ok with banning people but when he makes an alt and keeps being a dick are you just going to keep banning him?

            [–]chrissiethereseWaltham[M] 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (4子コメント)

            Yeah, we did that with fedora. 50+ reincarnations.

            [–]Drunkelves 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            lol I almost forgot about that child. Admins blacklisted his IP address. How much of a moron do you have to around here to get your IP blacklisted?

            [–]alltheacro 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Wait, wha? Who? Tell me more.

            [–]thewineburglar 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            He's persistent I'll give him that.

            [–]ohhowexciting 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            That's actually kind of impressive.

            [–]LordBlackmore 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I'm ok with banning people but when he makes an alt and keeps being a dick are you just going to keep banning him?

            Technically that's ban evasion and can get someone a site ban.

            [–]iriscamby 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            He's the worst but reading his comments just strengths my ignore-the-troll muscle. But he's not exclusively a troll, he's an angry guy looking for attention who occasionally gets distracted from that goal and posts actual content. I vote don't ban.

            [–]MangoDieselBoston 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Easiest ban ever.

            [–]ZizZizZizSouth Boston 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            "feedback is welcome"

            dont fucking feed trolls by making them think they have power over whatever authority they are challenging

            in fact if he complains again get him shadow or range-banned from the site altogether

            [–]artard 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (20子コメント)

            Don't ban. The downvote button works just fine, and the garbage is quickly hidden. Let's not join in this latest fad of thinking that silencing dissenting or even insane ideas (read: safe spaces) are a good idea in the long run for this sub, this website, or our society in general.

            [–]kount_chokula[S] 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (2子コメント)

            nobody is calling for a safe space here, we're talking about one person.

            [–]alltheacro 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (5子コメント)

            No, the garbage isn't, because it's not that active a sub, and he's an absolutely prolific submitter. I have routinely fired up /r/boston and seen half the posts on the front page are from him - they're marked with deep red "[-300]"'s from RES. He's so unrelenting with submissions that he dominates this sub simply by volume, more than any other user. At the very least, he should be limited to one post per day.

            That is, by the way, the highest downvote score I've given any redditor, a score more than an order of magnitude higher than the next person (Jason and Mitch are next in line) and more than two orders of magnitude higher than most. Last time I looked, most users I've voted have a pretty neutral total voting score with me, and it definitely slants in the positive direction.

            A year-old account that still has negative comment karma, much less the maximum possible negative score, boggles the mind. Seriously, go look at his user. -100 comment karma. Account age, 1 year (it's actually much longer than that, it hit '1 year' quite a while ago.)

            [–]ScipioA 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

            Automod can be set to hide posts by users with a given amount of negative karma, that would be a simple hard line for the mods to set. There are certainly ways around it, but it should be an easy first step.

            [–]BluShine 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

            Problem is that it's still a small sub so we can easily be vote-brigaded. So, if there's a protest in Boston, a subreddit that hates the protests can come and downvote all the posts about the protest so that nobody sees them.

            [–]alltheacro 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Users with negative karma, not posts or comments with negative scores.

            If someone has negative comment or links submission karma, their posts should be held by default.

            If a mod happens to have free time and sees your post, and feels it's worthwhile, then they can approve it, and maybe you crawl your way back out.

            [–]BluShine 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Is it only karma in that subreddit, or is it site-wide karma? You can easily farm tens of thousands of karma in a bigger subreddit, and a smaller subreddit like this one won't make much of a dent when most of our posts don't break a thousand upvotes.

            [–]GildedSnail 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (9子コメント)

            I mean, there's a difference between "safe space"/hugbox and kicking out someone who keeps using r/boston as a soapbox for his shitty attempts to rile up as many people as possible.

            (Seriously, who goes onto a missing-persons thread for the sole purpose of cracking jokes about how the missing lady "blew off work to go to the rally" and was "abducted by lesbians"?!)

            [–]artard 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (7子コメント)

            I could go either way. I've certainly seen them around here but often they're buried way below as a "hidden" comment because they've been downvoted to oblivion. The bans will get easier and easier to justify, so I'm just identifying a slippery slope and pointing out that the first step doesn't really seem all that necessary. The 'safe space' is just a later part of the slope I'd like to avoid.

            [–]kount_chokula[S] 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            1) see racist/abusive/inappropriate comment

            2) notify moderators

            3) moderators decide

            where is the safe space part of the slope

            [–]bakgwailoDorchester 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Getting rid of painfully obvious trolls isn't creating a safe space.

            [–]alltheacro -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (3子コメント)

            http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/slippery-slope.html

            [–]artard 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

            It's a fallacy if the action can't actually lead to the supposed end result. Part of the discussion here is whether that's actually true, so presupposing a "slippery slope" argument as a logical fallacy seems a bit premature, no?

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              [–]billwrugbylingWatertown 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I think you (like many people on Reddit) misunderstand the ideas behind things like safe spaces and trigger warnings. The purpose is to make discussion possible, not shut it down. This is a pretty decent article about it: http://nyti.ms/2ctVZ5g.

              [–]stayoutofwatertownWatertown 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (7子コメント)

              Keep him. Most of the time people just disagree with him. We don't want this to be /r/politics.

              [–]BajintoRoslindale 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (6子コメント)

              No. It's not just that he posts things that people disagree with. He specifically posts things to bait others into arguing.

              Ban him.

              [–]alltheacro 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

              Not only that, but he floods the subreddit with submissions. He's turned /r/boston into a feed of Herald/Globe stories mostly about crime, mostly if it's in the city or has anything to do with immigration - and he 'balances' it with stories he knows will get him karma. Like a story about a local sports team winning a major game, for example.

              [–]bakgwailoDorchester 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Immigrants or black people, btw.

              [–]frauenarzZztDorchester 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              You know that "don't feed the troll" is a saying for a reason, right? Just don't get baited by idiocy. There's a reason why no one comments on their submissions. TBH I read one every once in a while when it says some stuff, since I wouldn't go to BPDNews or shit otherwise.

              [–]cleancutmover 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

              Or learn to be an adult and not get baited into situations. For fucks suck, its an internet chat room, not a room mate.

              [–]kount_chokula[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

              this is more like an internet message board. not a chat room.

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                [–]NightStreetSomerville (Davis Square) 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I believe Adam Gaffin long ago banned him from UniversalHub.com .

                [–]thewineburglar 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                Just a side note. Roadrash is going to be the happiest it has ever been when it's unblocked and sees this thread. The most attention it has received in years

                [–]kount_chokula[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                I'm pretty sure he can see this thread. He just can't respond.

                [–]highlander311Is the Wynn open yet? 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                He wants so badly to be a troll and to give his dissenting homophobic position. Instead everyone just thinks he's stupid. A necessary nuisance. Like the giant shit you know you have to take after a delicious burrito. He's worse than a burrito shit. /u/roadsterfan has such a sad lonely life.

                Like I get he's a troll and I respond because it brings a little bit of fun to my otherwise stale days at work, but there's a difference between a stupid remark about road laws and suggesting to the friend of a missing person that they may have become a lesbian after the woman's march. It's seriously a sad, sad life.

                I have no opinion either way. Ban him and you'll get my support. IF you don't I call for a mass movement of people on /r/boston to downvote and ignore him.

                [–]frauenarzZztDorchester 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                The fact that he replied to this thread within 10 minutes of it going up when the Patriots were about to play should show you how sad/lonely their life is.

                [–]jpallanPeople's Republic of Cambridge 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                You know many of us never watch a Patriots game, right? I could honestly not care less about the Pats.

                [–]frauenarzZztDorchester 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                (I agree with you but am afraid to admit it after just sitting through a 30 minute lecture on "pass rushing" provided to me free of charge by a co-worker)

                [–]jpallanPeople's Republic of Cambridge 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                It's weird. Everyone I know who lives in town knows about as much about American football as the New Hampshirites I grew up with knew about rugby union vs. rugby league. It's not impossible that they know it, just wildly unlikely.

                Yet all the outtahtownahs watch the Pats. I'm sure the Pats are a big thing down South Shore, and they're definitely a thing in New Hampshire, but honestly, no one I know personally these days, after over a decade in town, gives a shit.

                My husband, who's from the Midwest and weighs maybe 140 pounds soaking wet wearing full battle rattle, is ironically the person I know who understands football the best, despite the fact that he'd get his ass kicked into Tuesday if he ever tried to play it. And even he doesn't really care, he just had relatives that would not shut up about football.

                [–]member_member5thNov 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I completely agree he. He is poisonous.

                [–]highlander311Is the Wynn open yet? 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                You guys, they don't even like /u/RoadsterFan on /r/the_donald!!

                https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5pjqpi/just_another_example_why_we_need_the_wall_we_now/

                "There doesn't seem to be anything here"

                SAD!

                [–]coraldaytonMethuen/Waltham 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                As a casual browser of /r/Boston, I'm appalled to see some of the shit /u/RoadsterFan is saying. Don't get me wrong, I've trolled before and there is definitely a line you don't cross. Just the small amount that I've seen so far shows that he has indeed crossed that line and will continue to do so. Despite contributing and attempting to be a productive member of the community as a whole, once somebody crosses that line, they won't stop permanently. They may stop temporarily but they'll just find ways to poke at people in less 'upfront' manners to get their kicks in.

                Despite being a casual browser, I support banning him permanently. Sure, he'll probably create another account, but then we detect the stuff, and go about the same process yet again.

                [–]batmansmotorcyclePurple Line 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                He posts about 3 stories each morning with the same mantra. There is no diversity so he's not really contributing to the sub. I don't care if he is banned because he can just create a new alt. People seem to stay away from his posts, maybe he will just get bored and move on if no one reacts to him.

                [–]spedmunkiPeople's Republic 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                +1 ban

                [–]Original_DoodDorchester 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Banhammer

                [–]math_emphatamine 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                fuck roadster fan. I hope he gets a DUI (without hurting anyone), blows like a 0.4 and never gets to drive again. I also hope he gets court order to commute solely via single gear cycle.

                [–]Dajbman22Purple Line 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I honestly have no idea how/why the moderation team can stand to allow such blatant trolling on the sub (not just Roadster, also the 4-5 alts that came over from T_D a few months ago) to the point where a handfull of annoying dicks actually dictate a lot of the conversation and tone around here. Most of it is such low-hanging-fruit, 2/10 trolling that even a simple automod code for certain key words could easily clean up the majority of it.

                The communities I moderate are mostly known to be pretty damn laissez faire when it comes to unpopular opinions, but nobody on the mod teams would want to stick around a community with such shitty trolling tolerated.

                [–]indistinctcolorCleveland Circle 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                Because there is no way he could make another account and start posting here again. Impossible.

                [–]bonochromatic 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                This has come up several times in the past. Eventually it ends with an IP ban from the admins.

                [–]ohhowexciting 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Which is still easily circumvented.

                [–]chmeeeeOrange Line 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                I'm going to vote for keeping our resident dumbass in chief for one primary reason: we know just by his name to ignore anything he says. It's a safe assumption that he'll come back under another username, because he has a sad life with nothing better to do. At least now his comment automatically gets flagged with a big red blob by my RES due to the -215 (!) cumulative voting score from me.

                [–]alltheacro 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Through almost a decade and across numerous area online forums, he's never changed his white whales (immigration, victim-blaming ped/bike victims, misogyny) or writing style...and it's easily identified. If he created an alt account, it wouldn't take long for people to notice. Then it's a matter of messaging reddit admins, and boom, every IP he's used is banned. Repeat if necessary.

                It's hilarious that he claims he's been "doxxed." His real-life identity is really well-known in a lot of area circles - transportation and bicycle advocacates are well, well aware of his IRL persona. He's so infamous that he's known nationally in the bike advocacy community and was the subject of a "how to respond to trolls" piece in a national-level blog.

                He was the subject of several area news stories after a racist comment on neighborhood forum.

                Another would be UniversalHub, the area's most widespread blog - where he stupidly picked a username consisting of his first name, his last initial, and the zipcode for the town he lived in - and was a prolific, incredibly bigoted poster there. Didn't take long at all for people to figure out who he was, and word has spread steadily. People knew his various interests from googling his full name, and one of them happens to be a certain inexpensive roadster.

                Then someone pops up here with the username RoadsterFan, starts going off the rails about immigrants, women, and victims of traffic crashes? It doesn't take a sherlock to figure out who the account belongs to, and again, people noticed. I've heard his IRL-to-reddit identity 'mapping' mentioned at: parties, advocacy meetings, facebook/livejournal posts, twitter, you name it.

                [–]buffalo_in_the_rain 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I am not a fan of banning personally. I don't know why people aren't capable of laughing at the absurdity of it rather than getting upset. Just ignore him and move on with your day

                [–]50calPeephole 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                I like leaving roadster right where I can know where he is. I know many aren't a fan, I'm not a huge one myself but he does bring some content to /r/boston once in a while

                [–]thewineburglar 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Yea with the daily gun report. That's it.

                [–]fungwahCambridge 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                We could accomplish the same thing by just coding a bot to repost the Boston Police blog.

                [–]kount_chokula[S] 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                there are tons of better posters with tons of better topics that relate to Boston more so than his casual car accident or police pat-on-the-back posts

                [–]bonochromatic 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                He contributes nothing I couldn't find in three seconds from Google. He's so regular about it that it might as well be a bot.

                He posts those articles as his entry fee for trolling.

                [–]alltheacro 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Yeah. I come to reddit to get away from the Globe and Herald. I want to see actual interesting, unique, off-the-beaten-path content, not just crime stories and random coverage of big events posted to even out his karma.

                [–]AlictMedford 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                This is why racists/misyogynists/homophobes shout "CENSORSHIP" all the time regardless of whether or not it makes sense, btw. Because it actually is effective as a way of making people let them keep talking.

                We have someone who is toxic to the community but has managed to convince the mods that using the exact powers mods are supposed to use is somehow a grave miscarriage of justice.

                These people are not stupid; this is the exact outcome they want. It's the same as making "safe space" synonymous with shutting down discussion, when actually the idea of them is to better facilitate discussion.

                I'm torn between finding this depressing and wanting to write a paper on it; it's such a perfect example of why these people use the rhetoric they do. It works.

                [–]GilletteDeodorant 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                Yikes, I hope they don't a post like this about this sub's favorite and greatest antiperspirant - Gillettedeodorant

                [–]The-Big-AristotleDorchester 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I move to ban the razor shill as well

                jk jk

                [–]1911turbo 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                What's the issue with him exactly? Serious question.

                [–]punkparty 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                He sucks and is constantly trolling the comment threads in this sub

                [–]1911turbo 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                Sucks how? And there are plenty of trolls, what makes him special? I don't pay attention to usernames so I genuinely have no idea lol

                [–]kount_chokula[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                in a missing person's thread he kept posting how the person was probably abducted by lesbians because "most lesbians have iphones and she had an iphone"

                then he insisted that he was 'joking' and then he was banned

                [–]Jason_OT 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                The voting buttons are there for a reason.

                The mods shouldn't be doing anything more than removing spammers or people venturing into threats, being really abusive, etc.

                I almost never agree with him, but that doesn't mean banning him is right or effective.

                [–]kount_chokula[S] 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                You say we should remove users who are spammy and abusive...he seems to fit the mold.

                [–]AnonBos 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                Yeah, no. There is a mod in this sub that harasses users when they legitimately post, so I'm not taking this seriously at all.

                [–]funkymunniez 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                Install RES, block the user. Pretty easy.

                [–]kount_chokula[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                sorry, not into the concept of 'safe spaces' ;)

                [–]alohadaveQuincy 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                Do you use the locks on your doors at home?

                [–]grizzlyking -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (14子コメント)

                As long as Mitch doesn't get banned I'll be happy

                [–]chrissiethereseWaltham 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (13子コメント)

                So far, he isn't on the table. But we won't make him a mod either.

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                  [–]comrhWatertown 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  It was a classless joke in a thread about a missing person and he tried to tie in a completely unrelated, very polarizing, current event. That is clearly trolling to me.

                  [–]chrissiethereseWaltham[M] 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (10子コメント)

                  Roadster receives ban requests several times a day. Similarly, roadster has msged mods repeatedly to ban opposition and downvoters.

                  The comment I made said Mitch wasn't being banned nor made moderator.

                  Not sure what is ridiculous here. I think you misunderstood. We keep roadster because of the non-troll posts, but we are now getting ineptitude calls daily. So... What does the community want?

                  [–]BulbousVulva -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  The automod should remove his/her posts based on comment karma. Pretty sure he/she was given an exemption or the rules were loosened.

                  [–]chrissiethereseWaltham[M] 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  roadsterfan's comments mostly live in the spam filter and don't come to life here.

                  [–]BulbousVulva 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Why not the posts?

                  [–]chrissiethereseWaltham[M] 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  If they're content neutral, which we check for, they are approved. Usually he just posts links from the crime report. If you see above, I have him banned for 48 hours but I'm willing to extend it.

                  [–]Boston_JasonBoston Zipcode -13 ポイント-12 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                  Does /Boston need to be a safe space? I dunno. If there was a vote, I would bet that the majority would be all for censoring the dissenting opinions.

                  I think if he is properly banned: we need rules on what speech is allowed here / if going against the hivemind here is allowed.

                  Words and phrases (or thought as a whole) that are to be censored should be put in the wiki. And it needs to be specific.

                  Just like I said to matt when he was in charge: it's your kingdom to do as you please. Just be clear on what one is allowed to think and what opinions are to be silenced.

                  If he isn't spamming or personally attacking a user, let the votes take care of themselves?

                  [–]highlander311Is the Wynn open yet? 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  I don't think this is an instance of wanting a safespace... You and Mitch have opinions that are mostly dissenting towards the general consensus of the sub and I'll be the first person to fight against your hypothetical bans. However, harassing a user whose friend has gone missing by throwing your backasswards theories about lesbian abductions for the sake of putting forth a contrarian point of view is straight up mental and well deserving of silence.

                  [–]cookiecatgirlBrookline 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  In the past few months, we've received a number of PMs from users (both lurkers and active) saying they've either unsubscribed or will soon do so. Because, they've stated, of all the trolling, race-baiting, slurring, and hateful rhetoric thrown around on this sub.

                  No one is asking to be coddled here, but it wears away at one's nerves and mind to read through this shit day after day. Common decency isn't "safe space"-ing, it should be the basis for healthy subreddit function.

                  [–]chrissiethereseWaltham[M] 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Actually t-d trolls and roadsterfan hit up mod reports the most. They're the actual safe-spacers.

                  [–]Boston_JasonBoston Zipcode 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  They're the actual safe-spacers.

                  I don't think t-d being a safe space that silences dissent was ever in question. It's quite literally the poster child of a safe space / circlejerk. Dissent/real discussions for them is in sister subs where I attempt to (for example) turn anti-2A and pro-illegal aliens folks.

                  Maybe post a bi-monthly mod report to show regular users how bad it is from the other end? Don't know if that is easily done though. Something about sunlight being the best disinfectant? "Oh - it's that bad, screw them".

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