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Open forum: Moderation in this Subreddit. (self.toronto)

TheyForgotCanada が 投稿

I saw that this thread got removed (link removed it was a deleted thread about censorship, how ironic. Also this post was taken down because of that link. how about that). Which seems a bit overkill, I don't see why the r/Toronto community can't discuss the moderation of the community?

So have at it. Good, bad, etc. Thoughts on the current state of moderation, moderators, users, topics, brigading, and the ever-ending r/Toronto______ taxonomy and fragmentation.

This is probably going to get deleted but let's try and keep it clean, objective and avoid hyperbole. I'm sure we can do it.

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[–]ink_13Cabbagetown[M] [スコア非表示] stickied comment (3子コメント)

Having read this post in more detail, I took it down because you linked to a deleted thread. Don't do that.

If you edit the post one of us will reinstate it. Send modmail, I probably won't be around for the next few hours.

[–]_valtiel_Mississauga [スコア非表示]  (14子コメント)

I'm fine with the moderation in this subreddit. I think they're doing well in removing stupid comments by neckbeards and understand what a typical neckbeard, basement-dwelling, woman-hating, racist comment looks like. You're welcome to go to voat or something.

That's my observation.

[–]TheyForgotCanada[S] [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I think they're doing well in removing stupid comments by neckbeards and understand what a typical neckbeard, basement-dwelling, woman-hating, racist comment looks like

I'm a married man in my mid-30s, I have a house, car, job, baby on the way. IMHO I don't hold any prejudices. Check my history for anything racist, admittedly it's a new account, but g'head.

As a very liberal guy, even I think anyone questioning the far-er left narrative gets banned or censored.

[–]Xert [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

So what were you banned for, oh redditor of sixteen days?

[–]DJ_Melly_Mel_Lastman [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

Liberal here, community organizer and father of 3. I was banned for 180 days for critizing BLM. Calling me basement-dwelling neckbeard because we disagree about politics is the problem.

Wait it's not a problem when you do it. It's a problem when the mods do it and thats what's happening

[–]TheBigTankAgincourt [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

You were repeatedly posting copypasta

[–]TheyForgotCanada[S] [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

You were repeatedly posting copypasta trolling

House of Lancaster dohohohohohohohohohohohohohohoho

If shitposting got you banned there'd be a few less users around here.

[–]beef-supremeLeslieville [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

And that hasn't been posted in ages really and was actually a valid response to a certain type of question thread where the poster could have found their answer with a quick Google or Reddit search instead of posting.

[–]TheyForgotCanada[S] [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

The fact that he really doesn't have any 3-30 day gaps in his post history seems to indicate he's a preferred user around here.

[–]DJ_Melly_Mel_Lastman [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

It's not copy pasta. It's worthy commentary on any topic discussing BLM. If I was banned for spam, how come my post was never deleted and I was never warned? I was banned for 180 days out of nowhere.

It was political. Which is unacceptable

[–]TheBigTankAgincourt [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You posted the same thing over and over again. It was literally copied and pasted

[–]TheyForgotCanada[S] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

community organizer

What does that actually mean? Not to be a dick but I never heard that term until Obama `08.

[–]_valtiel_Mississauga [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

He's a community activist, just not for black lives matter.

This is Obama as a community organizer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5JlqDnoqlo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzh7mDjL5Tg

[–]chrisjayyyy [スコア非表示]  (29子コメント)

rah rah rah, the mean moderators wont let me turn this into another /r/metacanada

cucks

libtards

etc etc

we've been here before plenty of times. start a new subreddit if you don't like it.

[–]limited8Davenport [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

100%. I'm a-okay with strong moderation on this subreddit if it means it won't get turned into a shithole like /r/Canada where The Rebel is considered a legitimate news source.

[–]WislaHDMidtown [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Where is The Rebel being used as a legitimate news source on /r/Canada?

As someone who frequents /r/Canada, the one and only time I can think of The Rebel being linked was when The Rebel was the only media outlet to cover the New Brunswick police cover-up. Outside of that one instance (which IMO is legitimate, they broke the story regardless of where it came from/what agenda they had), I never see The Rebel sourced.

[–]TheyForgotCanada[S] [スコア非表示]  (20子コメント)

cucks libtards etc etc

excuse me?

my point exactly. Anyone that questions the mods around here is a racist/sexist/whatever. Can't even start a discussion. Thanks for avoiding hyperbole.

[–]the3bThe Beaches [スコア非表示]  (19子コメント)

There is a population within this subreddit that believes that all of those who oppose the "SJW" group-think are racist, sexist and biggoted assholes as opposed to a bunch of people have a different opinion than them. Not saying there are NO racist, sexist assholes here, but it's an easy insult for them to throw around when someone dares counter their idea of what this sub is.

At least that's how I've viewed it.

[–]beef-supremeLeslieville [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I've been accused of supporting racism by removing clearly racist comments on the sub. I'm still trying to wrap my head around that one.

[–]TheyForgotCanada[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

supporting racism by removing clearly racist comments on the sub

behold! The Social Justice Ouroboros

[–]Romanista1986 [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

it's just funny, complains they don't want it to become a conservative circle jerk, but A-OK if it is a liberal one, the divisiveness has gotten to unbearable

[–]the3bThe Beaches [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Yup. While both extremes are pretty unbearable at the moment, I feel like the moderates and centerists have been drowned out of the discussion because of how FUCKING SICK we are with all the hyperbole and anger. Why can't we just talk about things while being accepting of other opinions, even if we don't agree with them? So long as we aren't using "alternative facts" we should be able to discuss differences of opinion without it turning into hate and anger.

[–]Romanista1986 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I've just gotten so burnt out, I've seen people I thought were decent just vilify and shit on anything or anyone that doesn't agree with them, I had to just stop talking to them it got insufferable, so many who call themselves the most tolerant, really are not, and now this rise in fascist, Marxist, and communist ideas, we have learned nothing from history

[–]TheyForgotCanada[S] [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I feel like the moderates and centerists have been drowned out of the discussion

I think the centrists on either side are lumped in with the extremists in order to shut down the discussion.

[–]TorontoBob22 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Or maybe extreme centrism is just another form of extremism?

[–]TheyForgotCanada[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

extreme centrism

GOD DAMMIT MOTHERFUCKER I DONT NECESSAIRILY AGREE WITH YOU, BUT I SUPPOSE WE'RE BOTH REASONABLE PEOPLE AND CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE. I MEAN WE BOTH HAVE TO LIVE IN THE SAME CITY RIGHT? WELL, HAVE A GOOD ONE, FRIEND!

Extreme Centrism?

[–]RENATA_FORD [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

You're probably going to get downvoted, but you're not wrong.

[–]the3bThe Beaches [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I KNOW I'll be downvoted if this thread doesn't make it past "new" but I'm fine with that. IF this happens to hit FP, that'll swing back. Now, of course, that'll be blamed on racists and biggots, but of course, that's the easy excuse.

[–]TheyForgotCanada[S] [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

Ditto. I've said previously that there's tons of actual, heinous shit that gets removed but it seems like i see a lot more things removed in this sub vs any other city's sub.

[–]adoptedCanadIANWest Bend [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

it seems like i see a lot more things removed in this sub vs any other city's sub

Is that a bad thing? Maybe it just means that the mods are doing a good job.

[–]TheyForgotCanada[S] [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

It could, but I see less removed posts in r/Canada for example and it doesn't seem to be a warehouse of racist comments.

[–]adoptedCanadIANWest Bend [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Maybe because there aren't as many racist people in that sub? There are a bunch of possible scenarios. You can't really compare /r/Canada and /r/Toronto because they both have different communities.

[–]TheyForgotCanada[S] [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

That seems like a lazy answer to give. If anything I would expect the community of r/Toronto to be significantly more racially diverse than r/Canada. In my experience it's in small super white towns is where you see the most casual racism.

Doesn't really stand to reason that there would be more racists here.

[–]adoptedCanadIANWest Bend [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

This is reddit. If you did a census, you'd probably find that a majority of users here are males, between the ages of 16-40, predominately Canadian born. Do you think that's an accurate representation of what the city of Toronto really is?

[–]TheyForgotCanada[S] [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I'm not so sure about that TBH. Again, this is the most racially diverse city in the world (if not damn close). Sure there's probably a ton of white males here, but I would say there's more racial diversity in here than r/Canada.

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    [–]ink_13Cabbagetown[M] [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

    Please remember to be excellent to your fellow redditors.

    [–]TheyForgotCanada[S] [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

    Please tell me you left another one of these under /u/chrisjayyyy ... those were quite a few unfounded accusations.

    [–]ink_13Cabbagetown[M] [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

    What? Unlike your comment, he didn't attack anyone.

    [–]TheyForgotCanada[S] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    Really? I was asking a question. He made some drive by accusations, even after pleading with the community to keep it clean. I would say, given the 2 comments side by side his is quite a bit more disrespectful. What do you think?

    Thank you for your moderation. Priorities eh?

    [–]TheBigTankAgincourt [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Need a safe space? One without sarcasm?

    [–]ur_a_idiet [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    If it's rules people hate, we welcome all totes very smart opinions at /r/TorontoAnarchy!

    [–]the3bThe Beaches [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

    Because the mods can't actually defend their behaviour in a public setting, they'd rather it not be talked about at all.

    See these discussions and how they play out and you'll see why /r/Toronto is mainly filled with insulting "SJWs" and racists without any of the "community" that this sub once had:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/toronto/comments/57v46j/its_time_we_got_rid_of_the_no_questions_rule_on/

    and

    https://www.reddit.com/r/toronto/comments/5laxz9/petition_to_make_torontothingstodo_a_moderator_so/

    [–]TheyForgotCanada[S] [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

    Because the mods can't actually defend their behaviour in a public setting, they'd rather it not be talked about at all.

    FWIW, "questions about moderation should be sent to modmail". Hoping a "discussion" is allowed here. I really do hope we can keep this thread from becoming a shitshow. I think we're overdue for a discussion.

    [–]the3bThe Beaches [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

    Yes, because they can then ignore you or just tell you that you are wrong, and then move on. They'd rather not have to listen to an entire community of people telling them they're wrong all at the same time.

    [–]adoptedCanadIANWest Bend [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

    Because the mods can't actually defend their behaviour in a public setting, they'd rather it not be talked about at all.

    Both of those threads you listed had long responses from mods. Did you even read what you posted?

    [–]TheyForgotCanada[S] [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

    First thread didnt? Second thread is regarding questions on the sub. The purpose of this thread is to be an all-up discussion. So far it seems to be centering on one thing but I hope the discussion branches out.

    [–]adoptedCanadIANWest Bend [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    What? Bro, literally the first comment on that thread is from a mod. It's right at the top.

    [–]the3bThe Beaches [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    You mean the stickied comment that says:

    SO DON'T TAKE THIS AS AN OFFICIAL MOD RESPONSE.

    [–]VladK02 [スコア非表示]  (14子コメント)

    Mods here heavily censor topics and comments in favor of far-left political and social positions. This subreddit is for the most part an echo-chamber. Only occasionally useful for things like events and stuff happening around the city.

    [–]adoptedCanadIANWest Bend [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

    Do you have any examples of this?

    [–]TheyForgotCanada[S] [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

    Any controversial thread has a graveyard of removed comments. This seems to happen much more here as opposed to other city subs.

    [–]adoptedCanadIANWest Bend [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

    That is not an example at all. You have no proof that they removed comments which are far-left. Just because a lot of comments have been removed doesn't mean the mods are censoring opinions.

    [–]TheyForgotCanada[S] [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

    well we cant prove anything because the posts were removed...

    [–]adoptedCanadIANWest Bend [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

    Yeah, but the other guy was making accusations that the mods "heavily censor topics and comments in favor of far-left political and social positions". Unless there's any proof of that, they should just stop talking.

    [–]TheyForgotCanada[S] [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

    well we can't prove anything when there's censorship.

    [–]adoptedCanadIANWest Bend [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    Yeah you can. The users who have had their comments deleted can post screenshots of their deleted comments. Why don't you provide some screenshots to back up your argument?

    [–]TheyForgotCanada[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Because I don't have autism and i'm watching TV and responding to comments. That's about all the effort i'm putting into this.

    PS. Taboo is a dope show. Check it out.

    [–]JewishButtfucker [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    Ceddit

    [–]TheyForgotCanada[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Oh i don't give enough of a shit to dig through deleted messages and build a report.

    Props on the handle tho.

    [–]JoshDonaldsonTrump [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Read this thread. Look up ceddit on any of the top 5 most commented post of the last week. You will see a graveyard of wrong think

    [–]VladK02 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    sure. Have a read. Someone doesn't like what I say, flags it. Mods come along, and based on the flag, not the content of the message, i.e. on someone's opinion, start sending me request for self-censorship. Note, Im not banned, never have been, so my comments all comply with the rules. But, request for self-censorship came, with a clear implication of 'or else'. Echo chmaber.

    subreddit message via /r/toronto[M] sent 3 months ago

    Hi Vlad,

    We've noticed that lots of your submissions, posts, and comments have been getting flagged for being significantly incendiary to marginalized groups. However, it isn't everything tat you post in Toronto. If you'd like to keep posting in r/Toronto, we'd like you to tone down all the pseudo hate speech. There's a difference in discussing these topics in a respectfully way and the way that you currently choose to address it.

    [–]beef-supremeLeslieville [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Funny thing is, I bet if the mods were canvassed we wouldn't be far left at all. It's more that we're anti-bullshit.

    [–]dkwangchuckEglinton East [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    What a pile. I have yet to see a BLM thread that isn't full of racist dog whistles, concern trolling and tut tutting at the evil behaviour of "the real racists". Every post about housing prices is guaranteed several unremoved comments about "foreign" buyers. All sorts of conservative and anti-"SJW" crap gets posted here all the time.

    If you can't make your point without it being taken as racist, sexist, or homophobic, then your point is probably not worth making. Seriously. If you have a good argument to make, then you should be able to make it without coming off like an unreformed bigot. And if you can't, then maybe you should think about what that means about this brilliant argument you're so vested in.

    [–]RobotRobFord [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

    Join r/torontorevolt

    [–]DJ_Melly_Mel_Lastman [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

    They banned me for 180 days for creating posting a list of racist things BLM founders have done. I protested the ban and they removed it (without an apology) Now the mod who banned me is mocking me at Toronto Anarchy.

    Without a doubt the moderation in this sub is an absolute disaster. You have mods deleting inocoulus comments, banning people for arbitrary times (180 days!?) and publically harrasing people. I would not be surprised if they delete this comment.

    In my oppinion we need new mods because they are abusive and there is alot of documented evidence of it

    [–]beef-supremeLeslieville [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Please keep in mind that the mods have been flooded with reports and bullshit over the past 5 days with the brigading and general discourse of the latest controversial threads. Sometimes snap decisions were made and then reconsidered later.

    We're people too. We're volunteers trying to keep the place from turning toxic which is the inevitable result of undermoderated forums. The TA thread had nothing to do with you personally and everything to do with the constant stream of 'I was banned..'. Do a search on that phrase and you'll see.

    [–]TheBigTankAgincourt [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

    Oh no! You're being mocked??? Online???

    Do you need a safe space??

    [–]JewishButtfucker [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    By the mods? Yes that's harassment. Why do we have people defending the mods harassing the users.

    This sub is disgusting

    [–]TheBigTankAgincourt [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    that's harassment

    OMG give me a break. This is an internet discussion board. If getting mocked on Reddit counts as harassment, you need to venture into the outside world

    [–]TorontoBob22 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    There are a lot of other subs to subscribe to. Once I was banned from /r/Toronto and I unsubscribed and I have felt happier ever since.