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Women should not be allowed to vote (self.MGTOW)

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Today was a perfect example of why women shouldn't be allowed to vote. Over emotional, pointless, irrational idiots who think that "muh patriarchy" is holding them back. Absolutely disgusted watching the TV today. Now we know where all the Hillary supporters came from

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[–]lie-deflector 71 ポイント72 ポイント  (15子コメント)

Voting should only be allowed if you accept to be drafted into the military. So many women want to ruin the country with a vote, but won't let themselves to fight in the war for their country.

[–]calories_for_closers 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (9子コメント)

I would even argue owning land, or a business or some amount of assets is a good stipulation too. It may seem a little harsh, but there are other issues with the draft requirement. In the US I believe men can only be drafted from ages 18-26; so what about after? My point being, older men could vote to slaughter the younger generation.

I'm not proposing a solution, but more so good for thought. I think it would be good practice that all voters had some tangible assets; i.e., something to lose and fight for. Young men their lives, or older men their money. I'm not really sure the best way to handle a draft or voting because I'm fairly Anarcho Capitalist / Libertarian myself.

But I wouldn't want deadbeats like Chad voting either. Nor would I want only the elite. That's why I think land owners, or business owners, or some qualifier like that would be good.

[–]Ontrus 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (3子コメント)

My solution: Work 10 years full time + have a certain IQ + no vote by mail, that makes fraud too easy.

I don't care where you came from but with 10 years work you have a certain knowledge of how the world works.

[–]clearlyasloth 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I personally never liked the notion of "having a certain IQ". IQ is not a definite measure of intelligence.

[–]lolApexseals 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You do realize that more educated or intelligent people tend to vote Democrat right?

That on top of the fact that a majority of people in southern states are illiterate and uneducated.

It would destroy the Republican voter base.

[–]DeMeza 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

In my opinion, the problem goes deeper than just a question of gender. There are many men in today's society who are just as "dangerous" as women, and I believe that the main problem is that they have not properly been brought up, so they are not acting or thinking in masculine ways. The same goes for the women. There has been too much emphasis on female "qualities"; feelings/emotions, we all have to agree, we can't offend other people, and so on.

As you state, I simply don't think that linking military draft to voting rights would be the best way to go. This would essentially mean that in order to be able to vote and decide on how the government should work, you first have to risk your life for the government. I think something else would be preferable. I also don't propose a perfect or full solution. But I believe that one thing that needs to change is the raising of men. In order to do that, we need less female involvement and more male involvement in raising boys. We need to have more emphasis on logic, responsibility, creativity etc.

If most men were masculine, I wouldn't care if they had served in the military or not, if they were business owners or not, I would feel confident that they would make reasonable decisions and therefore deserve a right to vote.

[–]PANTSONMIXTAPE 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I would even argue owning land, or a business or some amount of assets is a good stipulation too.

You mean like the founding fathers intended?

[–]Smoothtank 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

that can't work, especially now since corporations are afforded the rights of citizens and the government itself is buying up so much land (alaska pipeline, anyone?)

I'm sure our (edit): government FOUNDING FATHERS didn't mean to make medication prohibitively expensive, or media to be controlled by 3 entities.

All in all, land ownership is a bad way to go. All that would prove to do is silence the vast majority, which would be anti-republic and anti-democratic which are both thoroughly opposed to American ideals.

[–]PANTSONMIXTAPE 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Any better than corporations just buying their votes like now?

[–]Toof -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That opens up the possibility of a great business model, wherein I buy up a bunch of land, and sell square foot plots to folks at inflated prices. Would probably interview them to ensure their political beliefs mesh with mine...

[–]ifyouarenotoneofus 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fucking mega-burn. Love it.

[–]Rik_the_rodent_king 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Starship Troopers FTW!

[–]batfish55 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

There's certainly merit to that idea, if you have the balls to serve the country, your opinion should matter, but the military does lean to the right.

Then again, if you also throw in a minimum education level, to filter out morons, that might compensate, as more highly educated folk tend to lean left.

[–]lie-deflector 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not saying if you have the balls to fight you can vote. I mean it the other way around. If you want to vote and decide where our country goes, you should be required to fight for that decision as well.

Instead of people voting out of spite, or anger, they might actually take a second to think.

But there is a downside to more regulations. You could say the same about raising kids. Require parents to pass a form of test and screening before they can have kids. Problem with that is it's a slippery slope to more government control.

And tbh, if the government was less intrusive and controlling, it wouldn't really matter whether the government leaned left or right or which president we got, because they wouldn't be able to do much anyways.

[–]MajorRobotnik 101 ポイント102 ポイント  (9子コメント)

I'm still trying to figure out what rights women don't have in America.

[–]knxguy 65 ポイント66 ポイント  (2子コメント)

they have ALL the rights plus some...

[–]Obio1 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Women pay less taxes. They have advantages in divorce. They have a higher chance of being accepted to any given STEM position. They do less jail time for the same crime. They are the recipients of more social spending dollars. Their word is largely unquestionable in rape cases. They attend and graduate college more than men do. They have far more social support services than males.

Men on average literally support women on average by proxy of government.

But somehow they are oppressed by men.

[–]undead_drop_bear 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

advantages in divorce

i'm not sure i've ever seen a case of women having any disadvantages in divorce

[–]ijpqenbfp 69 ポイント70 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You know how it's freaky when you're walking through a forest and there's not a single sound? It's not like you want to be hearing a wolf's howl nearby, but still... no sound at all is eerie, especially if you've convinced yourself that there really are dangerous animals around. After some time of this, maybe you start hallucinating some sound or danger.

This is basically modern women: society is so safe and agreeable to them that it's freaking them out. They can't detect any oppression or systematic violence against them, even though they're programmed to expect and continuously scan for that, so they start hallucinating oppression. And that brings us to air conditioning being sexist.

[–]clearlyasloth 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I disagree. Many women haven't even been alive long enough to be oppressed. Maybe there are some grandmas who remember when they didn't have the right to vote, but all these 20 somethings and 30 somethings are just pulling this stuff from nowhere.

[–]ijpqenbfp 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You say you disagree, but your elaboration seems to indicate (to me at least) that we actually agree.

Maybe this clears up some confusion: I'm not saying that women expect oppression and systematic violence because they're used to it. I'm saying that they're born with a very active "oppression scanner" that used to have real things to detect and now doesn't, making it go crazy.

[–]SamCasey98 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It is not about obtaining more rights. It is about eliminating others rights.

[–]TheMochilla 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The one where their actually 'right'. Like thatll ever fucking happen.

[–]thrown1520 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Your point has the proper rhetorical strategy.

"What rights today in the USA do women not have?"

I can't think of any.

[–]TTrappy 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Muh patriarchy, muh narrative"

[–]lonewolf-chicago 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (8子コメント)

It started with the elimination of logic classes in high school. I don't believe anyone should vote until the age of 25 and they must be able to speak, read, write perfect English, have a government ID and a job.

[–]justiceavenger 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (5子コメント)

18 really does feel too young at times. How many people can honestly say they were mature at 18? I know I was still young and stupid at 18, even in my early 20's.

[–]lonewolf-chicago 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Especially with young people still living at home until their mid-twenties

[–]clungey93 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You guys should just lower the drinking age to 18, I think people mature quicker that way. I know it sounds counter-intuitive but these kids are goin crazy mayn

[–]manzone22 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

True when I turned 18 and voted in my first election I just voted for the party that my parents voted for as I had zero interest in politics and never payed much attention to any party policy's apart from the one saying they would get rid of interest on students loans if you stayed in NZ

[–]Ontrus 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agree. Been over 18 since a few years and made tons of progress intellectually. The point of democracy is not to make you happy, it's to get a government that can do a good job (i.e. is not run by inbred kings or something like that).

[–]QuitYourBullshiting 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would like to argue that I'm relatively mature at 18. I have a job, I pay my bills, I fix my cars, and a save a good 50% of my paycheck. I'm not the majority though. Most are struggling just to hold a job at a retail store I guess. Pretty sure that's why my peers at school can't hold jobs too well.

I think having an age based limit on voting is a terrible representation of the people. This means that any person that lives in the basement, and has a driver's license, can vote on large issues. Do these basement dwellers have experience with the topics they will vote on? Not really.

I think it should be more among the lines of your contribution to society, so holding a job, and paying bills and taxes. If you contribute to society, you should be able to change it how you see fit. You'd have more experiences with taxes and costs, so you'd be able to make a solid judgement on what is right.

Then again, I'm just a kid who thinks a little more logically than my peers. Heckle me as you please!

[–]onbakeplatinum -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

And no arrest record.

[–]lonewolf-chicago 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I trust people with an arrest record more than women. Lol

[–]Paladin2903 50 ポイント51 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I keep hearing about western women fighting for rights. Um, this is a gynocracy. You have way more rights than men.

These useless hens think birth control is a human right? Lol. Sorry, let me collect myself from laughter.

Sorry, "ladies," (and I use that term loosely) but you wanting to fuck for pleasure -- without repercussion -- isn't a "human right."

If you want to do that, then you get to pay for it out of your own pockets.

It's hilarious how they think this country is a patriarchy, because they don't get EVERY LITTLE GOD DAMN THING THEY WANT.

I swear, most of these retards don't even know what the fuck they're protesting. All they see is "Pink," and "Yay wimminz!," and they're out in full force.

[–]JustLurker_Throwaway 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Birth control pills require drug discovery, years of pre-clinical trials, years of clinical trials, and are re-assessed for their efficacy every 5 years against competition. It cost companies billions to just push to the market.

On the other hand, condoms are plastic bags, and they want birth control pills, but not condoms, to be handed away freely.

It's not about whether you're right or wrong, in a gynocentric society it's about how loud you are.

[–]lqtys 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not about whether you're right or wrong, in a gynocentric society it's about how loud you are.

THIS.

[–]knxguy 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (1子コメント)

yeah, one was holding a sign syaing "make them pay for razors..."

seriously these fucking twats need a chamber of gas or something... lmao (joke people but still...)

[–]Norconorfolk 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Make them pay for the dates, the child support, the divorce settlement, the house, majority of the bills, fight in wars, pay for the wedding." ...oh wait

[–]lqtys 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

In fact, it is an human right.

What it is not an human right, is getting it given for free. If you want something, pay for it.

Oh, and I remember a discussion on Twitter about how tampons and pads should be tax free because only women buy them and so, only women pay those taxes, so is a women only tax, so it is sexist, so women should no pay tax on tampons and pads.

[–]washingtonpanther 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The best part of Twitter is that its name is literally a representation of the people who use it. They should run ads based around that: "Twitter, it's for twits!"

[–]strudel- 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Easy way to shut them all up, say:

"I AGREE! WOMEN DESERVE TRUE EQUALITY!"

Then pass a law forcing all women to be drafted into the military. Ofcourse the US wouldn't do that because that would be suicide, but I say put them all in the front infantry lines to get killed first.

[–]washingtonpanther 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Have a special forces comprised solely of feminists.

[–]Richo262 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Super special forces.

[–]Rheagar_Thorwald 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They can nag the enemy to death.

[–]thefifthestateusa 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

The only activities women truly engage in are bitching, moaning, complaining and manipulating.

[–]SuperGRB 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hmmm... manipulate! Kind of like mansplaining... except it is something women do to men.

[–]black_pardalote 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

moaning,

Yeah, sure, let's just pretend you've ever heard a woman moaning.

[–]icancto 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here's why

[–]smashstupid 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Doesn't your post simply reinforce what they are fighting against lol? Also, why do you see those protesters as a representative of all female demographics? But then don't see beta male cucks (who are also protesting) as representative of all male demographics? I think you might be as irrational as those women lol....

[–]Rosheaa 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They create the very issues that upsets them down the road. There is no patriarchy, only government that rubs its hands in glee that women are so easily manipulated by resources.

[–]JustLurker_Throwaway 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What's really sad is that emotion is taking over rationality in our society.

We may be living in the golden age of rationality and objective-focused progress.

[–]earthwolf82 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Give em the vote.. It's totally irrelevant anyways.. 2 wings, same bird, shitting on us all.

[–]Wolfkrone 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Even if we made it law for all men to hand over 100% of their money to women, and made it against the law to criticism or disagree with a woman, they would still see the world through their inferiority/superiority complex.

[–]washingtonpanther 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They can't decide where they want to eat on dates, what shoes they want to wear simply to go shopping or outside or anything of any function, yet they want to have a say in the direction of the country? I want the nerve damage in my neck, left arm, and left hand to go away...let's see how effective simply wanting things to change is.

[–]squidracer 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Actually quite a few white women voted Trump.

Liberals are the ones that shouldn't be voting

[–]NotNormal2 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What next? You goNna tell me blacks shouldn't vote as well? Deny Holocaust? It was OK to genocide the indians?

[–]bonusfruit 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is a tough one to get behind considering women voted trump into the white house.

[–]Rheagar_Thorwald 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Trump wouldn't have been needed if only men had the vote.

[–]Richo262 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

2 universal ways around it.

1) Vote only assigned to those registered to the draft - You then cannot object to women entering the draft. Only those prepared to fight for it, have a say in it.

2) Vote only assigned to property owners - Exclude banks, have to own 50%+ of property. Property must be developed (stop land grabbers for votes). You'd also have to have a policy that opens up property for development to prevent stale mate. All land assigned back to States other than military bases. Only those that have a stake in the land and resources can vote as to how they are managed.

Both would render illegals and communists out of luck for voting.

[–]Helikzhan 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is honestly what happens when a human has their well poisoned.

Whether it's gender or race, people in this country are indoctrinated to hate someone irrationally. For example whites and Jews, or blacks and whites. It's because from the time they're born they are trained to see the boogeyman as their enemy.

So when they step out into the world and experience it they're looking for Jesus in their toast. People try to justify their knowledge of the world against what they're looking at. So if a cop stops a black guy most of the time he assumes he was stopped due to being black. If a white guy doesn't get ahead he blames a Jew he thinks was part of it. The same is true about women, too. If a guy just talks to her she assumes he is trying to rape her.

All this happens because of the way children are raised in this country and it has to stop. Academia and Hollywood have to be seized by rational people once more.

[–]thrown1520 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We are men. We can come up with a proper response to the excesses of feminism. Returning to 1850 when women couldn't own property, hold public office, or vote, and women's medical concerns were very poorly addressed, will not be on the table.

If we want to return to a male-led society, we need to come up with a realistic proposal that could actually work, and would be morally good.

We are human beings, and human beings always have a god. As our society has turned away from the Christian God, the actual god in our lives is government. It is quite wrong to deny half the population, women, equal access to the god, and that is why women have the right to vote, to commune with the god of government.

As long as our god is government, the problems that this subreddit finds will continue.

If we could increase the value of religion and the church so that government was no longer in effect the god of our society, government would not be all-important in people's lives. Regardless of what the right to vote may look like in the future, the concerns of this subreddit would then be pushed much better.

Mate selection is currently 75% the individual female's, and 25% the individual male's.

Reviving matchmaking within churches--by older, wiser people--seems like a perfect way to not only bring in more young congregants to churches, but to redress the decline of marriage. Then the question is what would it take to convince women to participate in such matchmaking? This is a real stumbling block in my mind, as they would not wish to give up hypergamy if they don't have to. I think we need to look at family and property laws to rectify the balance, and convincing women to vote for such changes would be tough.

We the MGTOW should frame an agenda in a summary document.

[–]HotStickySemen 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Damn right

[–]lostkhronos 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's almost like they don't just want equal pay for equal work which in the end is forced inequality.

It's a race to the bottom. Really quite sad.

[–]undead_drop_bear 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

https://youtu.be/i_L5YH9Qlr4

[–]a17c81a3 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEUXxLlVKLw

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[–]geocitiesuser 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, it's easy for them to blame the patriarchy instead of taking personal accountability. The left is fucking retarded.

[–]TheyCallHimRenekton 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I disagree, people like lauren southern should.

[–]A_Midget_Stripper 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What the fuck? Since when was MGTOW about suppressing the rights of people? Yeah, most women are just old teenages, but they're still people that should have a say in the government that affects their lives. I'm sick of this subreddit being brigaded by the "anti-women". The whole point of MGTOW is to stop caring about women and exit the society that believes men should be at a woman's every beck and call.

Seriously.. if you're in the "anti-women" mindset, you'll never grow as an individual. Stop thinking about women entirely, let society crumble, and focus on yourself and your own needs. Go to a gym and lift, study a useful skill. Eventually, you'll learn to not give a fuck and be happier for it.

[–]verynormalsimple [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think the binary notion of 1 vote per citizen is as obsolete as Monarchy. A true modern society is closer to meritocracy and it should would give a citizen a vote value or a number of votes to divide at his will, all relative to his measurable contributions to society and the risk they take with the decision. Those who go to war get I don't know 50% more value for their votes, but it doesn't make sense for people going to war to have absolute decision over the rest, that's just stupid.

By the same logic one could argue: Only healthcare professionals should vote because they will have to fix the health issues people are having after a stupid president gets elected. It doesn't make sense either.

TL:DR Binary vote is retrograde. Meritrocracy vote is the solution.

[–]nicolauz -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Wow this turned into r/justneckbeardthings quick.

[–]Luvs_to_splooge_ 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well this sub is neckbeard central...

[–]a17c81a3 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wear your neckbeard proudly, like the James Bonds of old with hairy chests it means high testosterone! (probably)