Chuck Todd got into a lengthy and heated back-and-forth on Meet the Press this morning with Kellyanne Conway over both President Trump and Sean Spicer making crowd sizes an issue yesterday.

Todd repeatedly asked her why Spicer was sent out to make a “provable falsehood” like that. Conway said this is a symbol of “the unfair and incomplete treatment” that Trump gets in the press.

She said that if people in the press are going to talk about the nation’s press secretary like this, the administration may have to “rethink our relationship here.”

Todd repeatedly called her out for not answering the question and told her Spicer’s false claim “undermines the credibility of the entire White House press office.”

Conway shot back that he’s being “dramatic” and said that Spicer “gave alternative facts.” Todd went off and responses, “Alternative facts are not facts, they’re falsehoods!”

At one point she scolded Todd for laughing at her. Todd said he wasn’t laughing, he’s “just befuddled,” but Conway told him that this is once again symbolic of the unfair treatment they’re getting.

Todd got more and more frustrated as he kept confronting Conway over the press conference, asking, “What was the motive to have this ridiculous litigation of crowd size?”

Conway called him out yet again, telling him, “Your job is not to call things ridiculous… You’re supposed to be a newsperson.”

Watch the entire interview above, via NBC.

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