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[–]KingThrijeshRICHEST RANDIAN 4 points5 points6 points  (21 children)
If one is vegetarian, they simply cannot even imagine how excellent well prepared meat tastes.
You can get equally nutritious vegetarian food as meat. If you are so full of yourself that you'd be fine killing them for their "excellent taste", we might as well play jallikattu once a year to preserve our traditions
[–]Keerikkadan91 -2 points-1 points0 points  (20 children)
You can get equally nutritious food at far less prices than meat.
Not with the same ease. Somewhat comparable, maybe. Also, taste of non-vegetarian food is in a different realm; sorry, but if you're a vegetarian, you simply wouldn't be able to comprehend it. Taste is important to nutrition, as taste decides our diet by a large part
If you are okay killing them for their "excellent taste", we might as well play jallikattu once a year
No, that is just torture for fun; it has no utility. It's a level of sadism which would put even neanderthals to shame.
[–]KingThrijeshRICHEST RANDIAN 0 points1 point2 points  (18 children)
Not with the same ease. Somewhat comparable, maybe
Given that Jains, Brahmins etc have lived just fine for centuries without consuming any meat, I don't think it is absolutely essential in terms of nutrition. Cost shouldn't be an argument here as I see dozens of people around me that are vegetarians not incurring particularly steep losses due to not eating meat. But if you're piss poor, ofcourse, you'd be better off eating meat as(when it comes to that economic strata) meat would make for a more nutritious diet with far less money spent.
Anyone that's not piss poor who eats meat is doing so only because they've grown to like the "excellent taste" and can't overcome their base instincts when a plate of deliciously butchered animal is presented in front of them. Not thing wrong with it, but that's what it is, despite your rationalisations.
but if you're a vegetarian, you simply wouldn't be able to comprehend it.
I am very much a meat eater. Only that I am not hypocritical about it and delude myself into thinking that eating slaughtered animals is somehow morally superior to jallikattu.
If I were a bull and were given the options of
A) having to live in a farm factory treated in an utterly inhumane and deplorable manner for my entire life only to be butchered at the end of it ...and
B) being pampered and treated like a royalty and served the best possible food and worshiped like a god for 364 days in a year, with a few humans jumping up my hump for exactly 1 day, and having to withstand a degree of suffering monitored and regulated by govt authorities
....I would choose the latter
It's a level of sadism which would put even neanderthals to shame.
You have just gone ahead and called something for which more than a million people are protesting as being worse than Neanderthals, without even trying to understand its nuances. You should feel bad for it.
[–]Keerikkadan91 0 points1 point2 points  (17 children)
Given that Jains, Brahmins etc have lived just fine for centuries without consuming any meat, I don't think it is absolutely essential in terms of nutrition.
Human bodies developed over millennia. Centuries account for nothing.
Anyone that's not piss poor who eats meat is doing so only because they've grown to like the "excellent taste" and can't overcome their base instincts when a plate of deliciously butchered animal is presented in front of them. Not thing wrong with it, but that's what it is, despite your rationalisations.
That's also what I said. Taste, which contributes indirectly to nutrition in a big way.
I am very much a meat eater. Only that I am not hypocritical about it and delude myself into thinking that eating slaughtered animals is somehow morally superior to jallikattu.
Slaughter for food is utilitarian. Torture for pleasure is sadism.
....I would choose the latter
Irrelevant.
You have just gone ahead and called something for which more than a million people are protesting as being worse than Neanderthals, without even trying to understand its nuances. You should feel bad for it.
I don't. IMO those sadists should feel bad about it. Only a psychopath would feel it justifiable to inflict pain on an animal for fun.
[–]KingThrijeshRICHEST RANDIAN -1 points0 points1 point  (16 children)
Human bodies developed over millennia. Centuries account for nothing.
Millions of people have lived in this country just fine without eating any meat. It isn't absolutely essential by any stretch.
That's also what I said. Taste, which contributes indirectly to nutrition in a big way.
With equally nutritious vegetarian options abundantly available, if you choose meat for its "excellent taste", then you are just as sadistic and driven by barbaric base instincts as the Neanderthals you speak of. You should feel bad about it
Slaughter for food is utilitarian. Torture for pleasure is sadism.
Did you convinently gloss over the part where I talked about bulls being treated like shit in farm factories only to be slaughtered VS bulls being treated like gods only to withstand a certain degree of suffering once a year?
Irrelevant
So are your opinions. Jallikattu is going to be conducted anyway. Now what?
Only a psychopath would feel it justifiable to inflict pain on an animal for fun
Except, these "psychopaths" treat the bull like a god descended from heaven for 364 days and inflict pain only for a few couple of hours in a year. As opposed to the other kind of psychopaths that treat animals like shit all their lives and slaughter them in the most inhumane manner so some human being could eat em up.
The world is not so black and white that you could so easily and quickly dismiss something as being psychopathic without even listening to what someone else is saying. Open your mind to opposing views and stop jumping to conclusions, it is bad for your health, all that nutritious and delicious meat consumed notwithstanding.
[–]Keerikkadan91 -1 points0 points1 point  (15 children)
Millions of people have lived in this country just fine without eating any meat. It isn't absolutely essential by any stretch.
Most people ate meat up until several hundred years ago. If not, we wouldn't have had the luxury to sit around calling non-veg heinous now; we'd be dead.
With equally nutritious vegetarian options abundantly available, if you choose meat for its "excellent taste", then you are just as sadistic and driven by barbaric base instincts as the Neanderthals you speak of. You should feel bad about it
Nope. Taste drives nutrition in a big way. Very basic truth.
Did you convinently gloss over the part where I talked about bulls being treated like shit in farm factories only to be slaughtered VS bulls being treated like gods only to with stand a certain degree of suffering once a year?
No. I just saw no point to validate your lie with a reply. Animals for slaughter aren't generally treated like shit. Extremely rarely yes, mostly no. Also, the animals go back to being treated as farm animals after the jallikattu torture anyway (if they survive), so moot point.
So are your opinions. Jallikattu is going to be conducted anyway. Now what?
Now the sadists won. Evil often triumphs. That's just the way life works.
Except, these "psychopaths" treat the bull like a god descended from heaven for 364 days and inflict pain only for a few couple of hours in a year. As opposed to the other kind of psychopaths that treat animals like shit all their lives and slaughter them in the most inhumane manner so some human being could eat em up.
See how your lie was called out just above.
The world is not so black and white that you could so easily and quickly dismiss something as being psychopathic without even listening to what someone else is saying. Open your mind to opposing views and stop jumping to conclusions, it is bad for your health, all that nutritious and delicious meat consumed notwithstanding.
The world is very black and white when it comes to torturing animals for entertainment. Animal torture for entertainment is bad. Only a psychopathic sadist would feel else.
[–]KingThrijeshRICHEST RANDIAN 0 points1 point2 points  (14 children)
Most people ate meat up until several hundred years ago. If not, we wouldn't have had the luxury to sit around calling non-veg heinous now; we'd be dead.
So? It isn't absolutely essential in terms of nutrition now, as it hasn't been for a few hundreds year as well. If you think eating slaughtered animals is somehow morally superior to jumping up a bull's hump, you are hypocritical and should feel bad for it
Nope. Taste drives nutrition in a big way. Very basic truth.
So you would consume any animal that's the "tastiest". Very sadistic indeed and utterly driven by base instincts. Wow literally Neanderthal
No. I just saw no point to validate your lie with a reply. Animals for slaughter aren't generally treated like shit. Extremely rarely yes, mostly no. Also, the animals go back to being treated as farm animals after the jallikattu torture anyway (if they survive), so moot point.
Lol animals for slaughter are treated like shit for the most part. Just a cursory google search would tell you that much. The jallikattu bulls atleast are treated like royalty until they go back to being farm animals. Which is a great deal for the bulls.
Now the sadists won. Evil often triumphs. That's just the way life works.
Get a grip over yourself and stop eating meat simply because you find it delicious. We are civilized people, surely we can do better than being driven by taste like evil barbaric Neanderthals.
The world is very black and white when it comes to torturing animals for entertainment. Animal torture for entertainment is bad. Only a psychopathic sadist would feel else.
The world is very black and white when it comes to slaughtering animals for food. Animal slaughter for food is bad when you can afford equally nutritious vegetarian food. Only a psychopathic sadist would feel otherwise
[–]Keerikkadan91 -1 points0 points1 point  (13 children)
So? It isn't absolutely essential in terms of nutrition now, as it hasn't been for a few hundreds year as well. If you think eating slaughtered animals is somehow morally superior to jumping up a bull's hump, you are hypocritical and should feel bad for it
I don't. My nutrition is excellent, thanks to meat. You too owe your life to your ancestors being smart enough to eat meat.
Yep, so you are driven by senses to consume any animal that's the "tastiest". Sadistic and driven by base instincts. Literally Neanderthal
Nope. Nutrition. More tasty nutritious food => better eating habits.
Lol animals for slaughter are treated like shit for the most part. Just a cursory google search would tell you that much. The jallikattu bulls atleast are treated like royalty until they go back to being farm animals. Which is a great deal for the bulls.
Nope. Google search obviously points to propaganda. Point me to research. I'm talking from experience, having grown up on a farm for a significant part of my life.
Get a grip over yourself and stop eating meat simply because you find it delicious. We are civilized people, surely we can do better than being driven by taste like evil barbaric Neanderthals.
It's perfectly civilized to eat tasty nutritious food. It's moronic to not, despite being able to.
The world is very black and white when it comes to slaughtering animals for food. Animal slaughter for food is bad when you can afford equally nutritious vegetarian food. Only a psychopathic sadist would feel otherwise
I agree with the first part. It is widely accepted that animal slaughter for food is acceptable to human society at large. Even 70% of Indians are non-vegetarian. Nice attempt at using my words against me, but 0/10. Animal torture for entertainment otoh is purely sadistic and is near universally wide decried by civilized society.
[–]KingThrijeshRICHEST RANDIAN 0 points1 point2 points  (12 children)
You too owe your life to your ancestors being smart enough to eat meat.
Irrelevant
Point me to research.
Lol I can't be doing your legwork, sorry. There's studies about it literally all over the internet.
I'm talking from experience, having grown up on a farm for a significant part of my life.
I am speaking from experience as well, my village which has been conducting jallikattu since time immemorial, treats farm animals a hundred times more shittier than jallikattu bulls. I'd much much prefer being a jallikattu bull than a normal bull in a farm, or even worse, in a corporatized farm factory.
It's perfectly civilized to eat tasty nutritious food. It's moronic to not, despite being able to.
It is moronic to eat tasty nutritious slaughtered animals, despite being able to afford a little less tasty yet equally nutritious vegetarian food
It is widely accepted that animal slaughter for food is acceptable to human society at large.
Oh that's because, to quote you, "the sadists won. Evil often triumphs. That's just the way life works."
Animal torture for entertainment otoh is purely sadistic and is near universally wide decried by civilized society.
Until about a decade back when money was not involved to the degree it is now, there wasn't any torture. A bit of suffering and pain for a few hours maybe, but nothing too gruesome. Hence the plea for stringent regulations, not an outright ban
[–]Keerikkadan91 0 points1 point2 points  (11 children)
Lol I can't be doing your legwork, sorry. There's studies about it literally all over the internet.
"Many people are saying."
I am speaking from experience as well, my village which has been conducting jallikattu since time immemorial, treats farm animals a hundred times more shittier than jallikattu bulls. I'd much much prefer being a jallikattu bull than a normal bull in a farm, or even worse, in a corporatized farm factory.
Oh, so you were just trying to defend your village's sadist tradition. That's fine then; no hard feelings. It's called Stockholm syndrome, and it's not necessarily irreparable.
It is moronic to eat tasty nutritious slaughtered animals, despite being able to afford a little less tasty yet equally nutritious vegetarian food
Not little. Whole different realm. If you think it's only a little, you haven't had well-made non-veg food. Hit me up if you're ever in CA and I'll make you some delicious pork.
Oh that's because, to quote you, "the sadists won. Evil often triumphs. That's just the way life works."
Nope. This is not a new or transient phenomenon, unlike these jallikattu protests. 0/10 on turning my words against me, again. Keep trying though.
Until about a decade back when money was not involved to the degree it is now, there wasn't any torture. A bit of suffering and pain for a few hours maybe, but nothing too gruesome. Hence the plea for stringent regulations, not an outright ban
Idk about what went on a decade ago, but even if what you say is true, that is wholly irrelevant in moving forward; once money finds its way into a sport, the people involved will never let it go.
[–]UlagamOruvannukaTamil Nadu 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
So torture for pleasure is ok for food but not for Jallikattu? There is no other justification for non-vegetarianism except tradition, same as for Jallikattu.
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