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[–]BlessTheBottle 137 ポイント138 ポイント  (146子コメント)

A good day for a march.

[–]meelawsh 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (3子コメント)

View from above https://imgur.com/a/fMTgx

[–]WdnSpoon 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Was that earlier in the day? I recall them saying the crowd had stretched all the way to College.

[–]meelawsh 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think it was around 12:30

[–]Footyphile 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It looked that way from a very specific POV and moment in time.

[–]Silly_Buisness 113 ポイント114 ポイント  (13子コメント)

I'm so proud of how Canadian woman represented for this Women's March. It makes my heart smile to realize how many people went out today, around the world. A lot of them won't agree on a lot of things, but they do agree on the broader points: women's rights are human rights.

It's disappointing to see how many people try to shut this down with the "where are these people when we need them in Canadan politics, etc." or "this won't make a difference". History lets us know that when women get together, things do happen. Not just for women, for everyone. And this type of coming together of women (and their allies) lets you know that maybe some of them weren't paying attention before to what was going on, but they sure are now. And that's something to be happy about.

[–]WdnSpoon 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thank god /u/DraziBlack dropped all that shit. The aggression of neckbeards today has really ramped up. Thankfully the thousands who actually got up and marched makes me way more optimistic than a couple of "but, actually...." types making bizarre claims about the impact women on social progress.

[–]beaverji 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh m'god, totally should have made it a rule to not scroll down too far in comments today :((

[–]GloriousGardener -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Women's allies? That begs the question, who are you perceiving as women's enemies?

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    [–]OtterBurger 207 ポイント208 ポイント  (32子コメント)

    A post about a protest and about women, a true double-whammy to bring out the worst people on this site

    [–]BestTorsoForward 51 ポイント52 ポイント  (12子コメント)

    Nah, only when it involves black people

    [–]participation_ribbon 57 ポイント58 ポイント  (11子コメント)

    Yeah (sigh), the donald especially has heralded the demise of reddit as progressive place. Sooooo much casual racism now, and even in obscure subs.

    [–]TheBigTankAgincourt 56 ポイント57 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Reddit has never been progressive. Maybe it wasn't as blatantly, outwardly racist as it is now, but it has never been progressive

    [–]devinejoh 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Brogressive is the term you are looking for, progressive until it starts to affect them personally.

    [–]LonelyNixon 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Naw before the diggsplosion it was all college aged liberals.

    [–]BestTorsoForward 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    At least one of the co-founder has good taste!

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        [–]bob_bannerman 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (18子コメント)

        The Alt right movement is real and growing. Look through your Facebook friend list, there's probably a few of them that won't outright claim they are, but their opinions clearly say otherwise.

        [–]WdnSpoon 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (2子コメント)

        True, but if today's march proved anything, it's that the progressive movement has been electrified.

        [–]_freestyleCorktown 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (7子コメント)

        Let's not do them the favour of calling it the "alt right". It's called "fascism", just in a softer, fuzzier coating this time.

        [–]ur_a_idiet 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (6子コメント)

        They learned their lesson last time around, when they tried to change "white supremacist" to "white nationalist," and everyone just laughed.

        [–]zabumaWallace Emerson 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

        The first step to fight that shit is not to call it 'alt-right" (That's what they want us to call it so it doesn't have a negative connotation and the public will be more likely to accept it) and just straight up call it what it is... White supremacy.

        [–]AnarchyKittyJane and Finch -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

        Let's demonize our political enemies to justify treating them terribly.

        I wonder why white people don't like identity politics and are considering the idea of ethnonationalism like every single country outside of The West.

        [–]Coldplacemostly 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I don't think it's growing at all. I hope not. I have family who are severe racists - as in they want to kill. At least one of them has changed his mind.

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          [–]MaximumShu 82 ポイント83 ポイント  (80子コメント)

          There is a quote that sums up the stupid comments on the post: "When you are accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression."

          I'm always surprised by the hypocrisy of people who want the level playing field of the "free market" but insist on placing roadblocks in the way of others. Sad! 😜

          [–]gyaradosB4ceruleanMarkham 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (71子コメント)

          I don't understand the context of this comment. Can someone help me out, please?

          [–]MaximumShu 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (70子コメント)

          Sure thing. Men tend to have an advantage in our society. Some men feel that the elimination of this advantage (partially because they are not aware of it) feels like they are being marginalized.

          The second part deals with the Republican belief in the free market system where everyone can fend for themselves and the top performers rise to the top. The belief in this system is based on the understanding that everyone starts from the same position. This is undermined by the lack of equality given to women (and people of colour, and different religions, etc.). These "roadblocks" that stop equality prevent people from starting at the same point and gives an unfair advantage to certain people.

          Let me know if you have any other questions.

          [–]gyaradosB4ceruleanMarkham 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (40子コメント)

          Ah, that makes sense now. Thanks for explaining it clearly.

          [–]MaximumShu 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (39子コメント)

          No problem! 😃

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            [–]ink_13Cabbagetown[M] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

            This is the wrong place to ask that question.

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                [–]consumeradvocacy 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (13子コメント)

                Men are clearly discriminated against in many areas of society, in particular the criminal justice system and family law system are hugely biased in favour of women. The wage gap, the main supposed discrimination, is a myth as it is simply explained by men working longer hours, working more dangerous jobs, and working in higher paying fields (i.e. engineering, computer science, etc).

                For the record, I think Donald Trump is a misogynist and deserves the criticism he receives from women, but I cannot stand the misinformation spread by feminists to justify their cause.

                [–]MaximumShu 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                The wage gap has generally been disproven and I agree with a lot of the points you are making. I answered this above and frankly I have to get back to work.

                To sum up, my view is that you are correct, gender equality goes both ways. The perception that men are worse parents is absolutely ingrained in our culture through decades of gender bias (and as a man it's something I feel strongly about).

                However, this also works both ways. We need to look at the bias that is ingrained in everything we do and work towards eliminating it. A lot of our societal norms have been constructed from decades of male dominated behaviour (hiring practices, gender roles, etc.) and we should work towards deconstructing that and establishing true equality on both sides of the table.

                [–]consumeradvocacy 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                Very reasonable. I absolutely want to work toward correcting areas of bias and discrimination against both genders. I am just as passionate about domestic violence against women as I am about family law biases about men, its just that society seem to think that the discrimination men face is less valid or even not real.

                [–]MaximumShu 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Very true. This seems to happens often - the advantaged person's issues are trivialized. Anti-white discrimination happens BUT in the face of much larger (and way worse) societal issues the problems get swept under the rug. While I feel that isn't necessarily the correct thing to do, the response needs to nuanced to respect the feelings of the people suffering from decades of being marginalized.

                [–]candleflame3 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (9子コメント)

                working in higher paying fields (i.e. engineering, computer science, etc).

                Ah yes, fields that are famously welcoming to women.

                [–]gyaradosB4ceruleanMarkham 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                ..except that they are. Maybe not at the higher levels, maybe there's some old boys club there, I don't know. But these fields are incredibly welcoming to women at the start of their career. I should know, I'm in it. My girlfriend was part of the Women In Engineering society at our school. Lots of my friends have experienced no issues whatsoever with their gender while job searching, and I haven't heard a single story about one who has. Which I probably would have, what with our close knit community and this being a hot topic.

                [–]CrazyPersonPills [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                I know it's anecdotal, but I only know two engineers and they're both women

                One is a geophysical engineer who now works in a potash mine, and they other was an astrophysicist and then transitioned into aerospace engineering

                Both of them are monumental nerds, who have told me that they've yet to experience anything but encouragement and incentives to pursue their interests in these fields (one even recalled how creepy and sexist they found the Women in Engineering events, and only went for the free food)

                Frankly, they're usually treated much better than their peers

                Every time I see a 'Women in Game Design' or 'Women Only Hackathon' I cringe a little; it just seems so damn patronizing and backwards

                [–]wonphone 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                I'm a dude who has to ask the internet how women are discriminated against but I swear to god I know enough about women to say they are not discriminated against

                [–]MechaSixVIIGreektown [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                It's almost as if asking questions of people who know less than you is a rhetorical device! Nah that's ridiculous.

                [–]candleflame3 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                I haven't heard a single story about one who has.

                Then you've been living under a rock.

                https://techcrunch.com/2016/04/14/women-in-tech-whats-the-real-problem/

                http://www.forbes.com/sites/metabrown/2016/10/30/ugly-truth-about-women-in-tech/#696a591e69e2

                http://news.mit.edu/2016/why-do-women-leave-engineering-0615

                https://hbr.org/2016/08/why-do-so-many-women-who-study-engineering-leave-the-field

                There is a boatload more info where that came from.

                [–]gyaradosB4ceruleanMarkham 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                1) There is no substance here, not sure what your point was with this one. It just says 50% of women drop out due to hostile work environments, which is itself a misrepresentation of the linked study's article.

                2) "Rudeness, crudeness and sexism are not just things that happen on the internet. Younger women in tech recount tales of men snubbing them, telling them women are incapable of programming (I dare you to tell that to the women whose code landed men on the moon.), and worse." is the only relevant part that I saw.

                3) I like this one, it is well written. It also aligns with what I've previously found to be more at the root of the issue.

                4) "Rachel offered similar observations: “One thing that really bugs me about being an intern and a young girl is that the people whom I work with don’t take me seriously. Not everyone does this, but a fair amount of the older men in my working environment do this. They’ll treat me like I know nothing.”"

                • that's really the heart of this one, as it relates to gender and not behaviour, and I agree. However, it's dying out. Those are the people who are soon to be retired. The people replacing them are by and large okay. And while that's definitely a unique scenario, it's not unique in the way that everyone has to deal with those people. The incoming males probably don't like it either. I know I don't. As well, it is again far from the claimed scale of harassment, on the level of things that I have simply dismissed when it has happened to me in the past.

                [–]consumeradvocacy 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                Companies are desperate to hire women coders and engineers. There just aren't that many unfortunately

                [–]rnd_usrnme 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (9子コメント)

                Men tend to have an advantage in our society.

                Can you provide some examples, preferably with sources? Genuinely curious.

                [–]CrazyPersonPills [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                The belief in this system is based on the understanding that everyone starts from the same position.

                I don't believe this is actually true

                Nevertheless, Canada has incredible economic mobility (particularly for women who actually fare better than men in this regard)

                [–]extracanadian 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                Men tend to have an advantage in our society.

                You are going to have to source that one. I believe this was once true but every stat I am seeing shows men at a disadvantage. Higher levels of violence, less men being educated than women.

                [–]wonphone 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                Lets start with your sources first

                [–]zabumaWallace Emerson 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                well said!

                [–]ohheytherestranger 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                Mess @ this tho 😂

                [–]Tevesh_CKPNorth York Centre 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Unrealistic.

                Hands aren't to scale.

                [–]paradoxicaleu 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                And the little Trump-on-a-stick with a "Kick Me" sign taped on

                [–]Ap0l0gia2016 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Stay home and play video games? Nobody cares about how you spent your time. Go to a protest and express a political point of view? Everybody suddenly becomes concerned about what you could be doing otherwise with your time, and they especially become concerned with your employment status.

                [–]evilmatrixCabbagetown 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                And to think, this all started because of a grandmother in Hawaii making a facebook post stating "I think we should march", who then created an event.

                Awesome!

                Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-women-idUSKBN13U0GW

                [–]doctormink 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I was thinking about that today while marching, and thought this was awesome. Then I got home and read that there were marches in Prague, Rome, Stockholm, Delhi, Nairobi, Finland, New Zealand, Ghana, Dublin, Tel Aviv and more (the list goes on and on!). That news, combined with the humble beginnings you describe, really blew my mind.

                [–]neowieBloor West Village 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                Awesome! There I am, in the pink hat! Thanks OP for posting! I didn't get any overhead shots!

                [–]FreeJeromeScarborough City Centre 102 ポイント103 ポイント  (93子コメント)

                If only people were this enthusiastic about our own politicians. Then just maybe we would be able to hold them to their word more.

                [–]WdnSpoon 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                If you'd actually bothered to go out or watch any of the footage, you'd see that a big chunk of the signs were about Canadian politicians, and several local politicians were speaking at the stops in Queen's Park and Nathan Phillip's Square.

                [–]JullaS 50 ポイント51 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I saw a lot of signs today in relation to Kellie Leitch, John Tory, missing First Nation women and more. I spoke to a woman who was holding a big, "I believe the victims" sign. These people didn't come out JUST to protest Trump. They are protesting many things that relate to womens rights.

                Edit: grammar.

                [–]magicsauc3 62 ポイント63 ポイント  (18子コメント)

                A lot of the speeches at the protest were about our own politicians and the ways in which the rhetoric of trump exists as well in Canada. The protest was very much about Canada's politicians as well. Indigenous issues, women's issues, electoral reform, wages... these were all discussed and there were many signs about these issues.

                [–]tautology_man 53 ポイント54 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                If you'd attended you'd know that there was actually very little mention of Trump - the focus was on the work we have to do here to fight toward equal rights for all people.

                [–]zaphod_beeble_bro 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                our politicians thankfully haven't reached those insanity levels. besides, U.S policy affects us quite a bit.

                [–]mnkybrs 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                One point of the protest is to make sure we don't reach those levels.

                [–]zabumaWallace Emerson 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                true!

                [–]BlessTheBottle 57 ポイント58 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                More can always be done; that shouldn't diminish the value of protests and rallies. People are enthusiastic about Canadian politics, perhaps you aren't.

                [–]0ttervonBismarckBloor West Village 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                People are enthusiastic about Canadian politics, perhaps you aren't.

                When was the last time this many people were in front of of Queen's Park to protest the Government of Ontario?

                [–]ur_a_idiet 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                75,000 people protested against the Progressive Conservatives at Queen's Park, one afternoon in 1995:

                http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/m/article/torontos-days-of-protest/

                Relatively-nobody has been that mad at an Ontario government since.

                [–]GloriousGardener 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                ...So... over 20 years ago? I think you just made his point.

                [–]ur_a_idiet 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                In the years since, no Ontario government hasn't angered the population nearly as much as Premier Harris did.

                This is a good thing, no?

                [–]gyaradosB4ceruleanMarkham 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Relatively-nobody has been that mad at an Ontario government since.

                You've left out the masses of rural people who are really, really pissed off about hydro rates and liberals and take to facebook to share it all.

                To be fair, they're not really anywhere near where they can easily attend events like this, so I'm not sure what is left. But christ almighty are some of the people in Lanark County just idiots. (think of the Trudeau-Not sharing folks who still want women to stay and home and have the man take care of her).

                [–]jimmAoThe Financial District 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                22 years ago. cool.

                [–]ur_a_idiet 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Yup. The Harris Tories served as a clear lesson in making sure not to personally insult the population, that their successors appear to have (arguably, most of the time) heeded.

                [–]turtlehRegent Park 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Yea but that requires doing real work and tackling real problems.

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                  [–]bob_bannerman 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                  What a coincidence, /r/theredpill is having a meat up there today to practice their PUA skills.

                  [–]CanadaveNorth York Centre 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  meat up

                  Not sure if intentional...

                  [–]RecyartHarbourfront[S] 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  I'd pay money to watch that rumble go down.

                  [–]ur_a_idiet 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  meat up

                  10/10

                  [–]zaphod_beeble_bro 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  It's always sunny in Toronto

                  [–]Rezrov_ 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Actually though?

                  [–]dyslecixgoatThe Danforth 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  God, half these comments are so troubling.

                  [–]ghanima 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  It's as if women still feel the struggle to achieve equality...

                  [–]MechaSixVIIGreektown [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                  Victim complexes are a bitch, I know.

                  [–]PurplebuzzParkdale 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (12子コメント)

                  That is more than showed up at the inauguration.

                  [–]henriettabazoom 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (9子コメント)

                  No, it's a media conspiracy, TONS of people went to that!! Trump is just using photos of Obama's crowds on his own promotional materials, because reasons!

                  [–]evilmatrixCabbagetown 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Haha, they removed it too later on after getting dogpiled on twitter

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                    [–]swamprose 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (10子コメント)

                    I went. There were a whole lot more people than this, tens of thousands, men and women, marching down both sides of University. Not a cop in sight. Guess they don't know how dangerous women can be.

                    [–]bewarethetreebadger 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                    You weren't paying attention. There were police cars in front of the march clearing traffic. And a bunch on horses on the sides. They did a great job managing the event.

                    [–]WdnSpoon 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Absolutely - totally thankful to the TPS who came out today! This is such an important part of community policing: big crowds take some oversight, to make sure traffic is redirected and nobody in the crowd falls/collapses.

                    [–]swamprose 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    Yes they did a great job, and were pretty much invisible. However, this is different and new, and I am just going to have to get used to it.

                    [–]not_don_gatelyDovercourt Park 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Also think it helps that the mood of the protest was so positive that there was never any moment where police intervention might be needed. A lot of families, kids etc.

                    [–]akath0110 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                    I've read anywhere between fifty to sixty thousand marched. I was there — I'd believe it. When I reached Nathan Phillips Square there were still people starting their march at Queen's Park. University Ave was PACKED. And I wasn't even near the front.

                    [–]neowieBloor West Village 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                    I believe the official count was 65,000. The cops did a great job, started out of the way, but directed the throngs when they needed to be pointed on the right direction. Kudos to our brothers and sisters in blue!

                    [–]smartbutstupidgirl 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    How they count something so big and open like this? 65k is insane though!

                    [–]neowieBloor West Village 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    I believe they get estimates based on size of crowd, confirmed by # of devices connected to cell towers & # of transit users departing the surrounding stations.

                    [–]not_don_gatelyDovercourt Park 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    I was there. Tough to ballpark but for sure there were a LOT of people there.

                    [–]RecyartHarbourfront[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Perhaps none mixed in with the throng, but there was definitely a low-key police presence there. Surely you saw the group of about eight officers on bikes, dressed in their bright yellow jackets?

                    [–]AwesomeDracula 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                    Spoke to the communist table there, who were set up alongside the protesters in support of the march. They were handing out flyers, some that supported women's rights through more hardline socialist policies. Originally they were closer to the centre of the crowd, but were booed by swaths of people and were chased to the fringes of the showing by police. Seems odd such a progressive group of people could be so hateful towards a minority.

                    [–]internetfashionsucks 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    from my experience as a leftist, liberals/democrats hate communists/socialists only slightly less than they do right-wingers.

                    [–]TheNonMan 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                    hardline

                    The only really hardline thing about marxist-leninism is it's opposition to capitalism. Otherwise social equity is a core part of socialism. However they don't follow the narrative of identity politics, and were probably booed for disagreeing on the mechanics of inequity with feminists, who were undoubtedly attending the march.

                    If they were actually silenced and forced to the fringes then you can probably guess which feminists it was...

                    [–]TheTigerMaster [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                    probably booed for disagreeing on the mechanics of inequity with feminists

                    In what way would a communist have disagreements with a capitalist on the mechanics of inequality?

                    [–]TheNonMan [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                    I was talking about identity politics, in regards to differences in how marxist-leninists and feminists approach social inequity. I don't don't know where you got your question from.

                    [–]berubeland 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                    I went to the Women's march even though I sprained my ankle yesterday. I brought my husband nephew and son with me. My husband is from the US and we have followed this entire election season the foolishness of the orange menace.

                    He's just an awful person and I actually feel bad for all the people who voted for him. They were taken in by his rhetoric. His own words are bad enough but his actions are worse. Draining the swamp and filling it with alligators is not the same thing.

                    Regardless there is no way other than a civil war or impeachment or waiting till the next election to get rid of him.

                    In any case the same ideology is cropping up here with the likes of OLeary and Leitch so this should be a warning to all of us who don't argue and frankly ignore the racist discriminatory people in our midst. We can't be complacent and they need to be called out.

                    I was proud to be there and I hope Justin Trudeau has the balls to repudiate this degenerate and his basket of deplorables. I hope he creates a fast track refugee immigration policy to accommodate the victims of hate.

                    After 9-11 an influx of immigrants came to Canada after the wave of hatred caused Americans to leave with their families. I expect to see the same type of exodus with this president.

                    [–]fungah 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    repudiate this degenerate and his basket of deplorables

                    I'm not saying I wouldn't like this to happen (I would) but we are very reliant on the US and politically this seems like a really, really shitty move that would damage Canada US relations and not likely result in anything positive.

                    [–]Fearltself -6 ポイント-5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                    I hope he creates a fast track refugee immigration policy to accommodate the victims of hate.

                    Speaking of victims of hate, how do you feel about Trudeau eulogizing mass murderer and the deplorable Fidel Castro?

                    [–]foxtrot1_1Queen Street West 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                    Yes, the complex legacy of Fidel Castro - which Trudeau clearly referenced after Castro's death - can certainly be reduced to "mass murderer." You know, like mass murderer George Washington.

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                      [–]ink_13Cabbagetown[M] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Please remember to be excellent to your fellow redditors.

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                        [–]teksimian 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                        They should March to the Saudi Arabian embassy.

                        [–]ur_a_idiet 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        It would take several days to "March" all the way to Ottawa.

                        Anyway, what does the Saudi Arabian embassy have to do with President Trump?

                        [–]wonphone 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Yeah we should only be able to protest one single objectively the worst thing that is going on right now, everything else doesn't matter

                        [–]DJ_Melly_Mel_Lastman 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        I was there today. It was absolutely massive

                        [–]miquelon 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Photo credit : Brian Tao.

                        [–]hellzscream 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                        If only you people would spend this energy protesting Kathleen Wynne

                        [–]ur_a_idiet 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        How did you find out that they also dislike Kathleen Wynne?

                        [–]ButtholeSmurfer 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Their hydro bills are too big!

                        [–]wonphone -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        What are YOU doing about it besides crying on the internet?

                        [–]FreeJeromeScarborough City Centre 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        That'll show those damn Americans!!!

                        [–]MX-GC 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                        Congratulations!!! Trump heard about what went down at Queens Park and he's just announced his resignation.

                        You did it!

                        [–]DHav123 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                        This rally wasn't targeted at Trump.

                        [–]MX-GC 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        Just a crazy coincidence then?

                        [–]DHav123 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        That men and women in America were marching? No, that's directly a response to Trump. In Canada? They're showing support to the marchers in US. They have no allusions that Trump will notice.

                        [–]CrazyPersonPills [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                        So... it's not about the election of Trump, it's about another protest, which is about the election of Trump?

                        [–]wonphone -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        Congrats, your snarky comment made eveyone realize they are sjw cucks and go home. You did it!

                        [–]MX-GC 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Your words, not mine.

                        [–]BestTorsoForward 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                        No reason for this thread to be controversial (I understand why it is though because of foolishness)

                        Did this march affect you personally? Did it incite hate against others?

                        If not, then let them be. Live and let live. You will find yourself in a much better place.

                        [–]prickliss 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                        actually it made me have to pay to go to work because i use streetcars and the rally apparently fucked up the service. It was super fun having my ability to use a public service limited in response to american politics.

                        But I'm of the party that these rallies are not effective and generally a waste of time in the political landscape. This march is so fucking late it's outstanding. The vote's over and he's in. what will happen tomorrow? probably not much

                        [–]RobertIsBored 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        I haven't read up on any of the main points for the march, but I will say I worked for a catering company that served the majority of people in Queens park on Canada day (though the city had many other locations with food and festivities) about 1/5th of this crowd was actually there for Canada Day. Just thought that was interesting note.

                        [–]ur_a_idiet [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                        Okay. Nobody mistakenly went to today's protest because they thought Canada Day got moved to January.

                        [–]biggerthanthegovThe Beaches [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                        I love all the nasty women who showed up. ✊️

                        [–]Ap0l0gia2016 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                        This.

                        http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/11/12/perfect-6-point-defense-trump-protests-breaking-internet/

                        Edit: why the downvotes?

                        [–]doctormink 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        Maybe it's the clickbait headline? Can't fathom otherwise, it's a pithy little explanation.

                        [–]Givemetruthdenzel 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                        What are we marching for? Women's rights? Or something trump said? The real womens rights abuser is Saudi Arabia, stop acting so god damn entitled and refocus your energy.

                        [–]ur_a_idiet [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                        That reminds me: There are more homeless people in Vancouver than Toronto. Close down the Scott Mission!

                        [–]Streetsnipes [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                        People downvoting you because they don't agree that Saudi Arabia abuses women's rights...lol

                        [–]ur_a_idiet [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                        Whoa. Who said that? What a crazy thing to say. What was your reply to them?

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