The Life of a 10/10 Male (Tinder Case Study)(Pics)

By Marcus | June 6, 2015

An interesting Tinder experiment was carried out to answer one question: What’s Tinder like for a male model compared to the rest of us? Here are the results.

The Case Study – Background

A user of the misc named GermanLifter decided to do a Tinder experiment.

The premise was simple, saying he “made a tinder troll account just to see how well a male model compares to the rest of us.”

The results of his thread (which you can find here) were interesting to say the least.

The Model Profile

Here’s the Tinder profile that GermanLifter used:

In case you didn’t recognize who he is – it’s Holden Nowell, the guy from the “Call me maybe” music video.

As you’d expect, a model would do very well on Tinder… but just how well?

The Results

“The results are unbelievable (srs). Every single girl I swipe yes to has been an instant match. There hasn’t been a SINGLE time where I have swiped yes and there was no match.” said GermanLifter.

The matches were great, but the interesting part of all of this experiment turned out to be the conversations that he had with the girls he matched with.

“…I can literally say ANYTHING and still get their #.”

Here are those conversations:

The easy conversations kept on coming…

Occasionally girls would show some resistance to the extremely direct approach…

But a simple change-up from sex to coffee was all that was needed to win them over:

Note: a solid conversation routine can be an incredibly powerful seduction tool, even if you’re not a model.

Shit-Tests

An interesting point was noted – even though this guy was a model, girls were still giving him the same shit-tests that normal guys get:

“You’re going to have to work a little harder than that” is a classic shit-test.

A shit-test is when a girl (or guy) consciously or unconsciously gives the other person little “tests” as a way to increase their own perceived value – it’s a grab for power and control in the developing relationship.

A guy could easily comply with her request and “work harder” for her attention – this is a mistake that a lot of guys make. Jumping through hoops to try and impress people decreases their value in the eyes of the person they’re talking to, but more importantly, it also decreases their own self-value.

Or, an alternative response is to do what GermanLifter did – don’t give her ego any fuel… You can notice the change in her tone immediately once the shit-test was negated:
As user Everglide123 pointed out:

Do girls have double standards when it comes to looks?

Another topic of discussion was around double standards of girls:

“What is being exposed here is how the standards on what is and isn’t ‘creepy’, or ‘entitled’, etc. actually has almost nothing to do with a guy’s behavior, and is instead a function of his facial aesthetics.” said supersystem3.

He used openers that would destroy the chances of a normal guy… but not for a male model.

Even girls who you’d think would be reserved based off their profile, accepted and enjoyed anything this guy said:

Nothing seemed to be out of the question:

Those feels

Witnessing how easy it can be to seduce girls motivated a few of the readers:

But there were a lot more readers who felt discouraged by it all:

“I think I have given up all hope with women srs” – Freuddcoco

Conclusion

There’s no doubt that all things being equal, a male model will get better results than most guys on Tinder. Everyone accepts that.

But this experiment by GermanLifter might also show that the difference is bigger than most would believe.

Another interesting discussion point as raised by a number of people, was that this experiment exposed a double standard by girls – complaining about the things (average) guys say on Tinder and classify them as creeps. But when those same words come from an attractive guy, they aren’t as creepy… in fact, girls seem to respond positively to it.

Whatever the case, being a male model definitely makes Tinder easier.

So what if you’re not a male model?… What then?

Do you give up on Tinder? Do you resign yourself to a life of loneliness, accepting that it’s only the really attractive guys who get the girls?…

Definitely not.

Why shouldn’t you give up?… Because there are countless ordinary guys out there who are hooking-up and dating gorgeous women off Tinder. They don’t get the same coverage as these types of forum threads… and they may not do it as easily as a male model…but they do it.

Know that there are conversation methods and techniques available that allow any guy to hook-up and date attractive girls on Tinder.

So if you’re an average guy who’s on Tinder and what you’ve been doing in the past hasn’t worked, it’s probably time to try something new…

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Marcel
The conclusion that this article delivers is off. Yes there are thousands of normal dudes who hook up but EVERY wife, EVERY (grand)mom and especially EVERY girlfriend is going to cheat on you with good-looking guys. If you are not a male model and you want love you are setting yourself up for a bad time. She will cheat anyhow…if you are not a male model she will cheat with basically every guy she meets.
- looloo
  None of the girls above are cheating. They are just human like men. Women are visual creatures too. A hot chick wants her equal, a hot guy. Men need to really look at themselves and realize that they are always trying to punch above their weight, so they fail. You deserve your equal, no better.
  - xzero19
    How do you know these women are not cheating? Also…you are right…you should try your league. But let’s be honest here: 90% of girls are attractive and 70% of guys are unattractive (to girls ofc).
    - Deno Moto (CynicalAnomaly)
      Women are not more attractive than men. If anything it is the other way around. I am straight, it more of a biology, sociology theory.
      - woomcwsa
        OKC study shows otherwise. Most men are below average to most women.
      - Deno Moto (CynicalAnomaly)
        That doesnt mean they are less attractive. Women could simply be wired to be picky, but from an objective view. A Gods eye view. It is hard to see how women who are mostly sheltered in societies around the world could continue to evolve as a gender specifically if they dont suffer the environment as men do. Men are faster, stronger, and more agile and at the same time are just as intelligent. From what I can tell this is because men have died or been denied access to reproduction to an extreme degree compared to women. Allowing only the elite the ability to pass on their blood. So the end product is superior. Just a theory.
      - woomcwsa
        What? If you don’t have any scientific evidence for the existence of an “objective attractiveness” then you’re just making stuff up. I really don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.
      - Deno Moto (CynicalAnomaly)
        No surprise there.
      - woomcwsa
        It’s no surprise that you are making up nonsense? Yes, it’s not surprising at all, I agree.
      - Deno Moto (CynicalAnomaly)
        Your comment wasn’t very witty, and since you don’t understand what I said there it means one of two things or both. I didn’t communicate well. You are receive well, or both. I checked my comment, that and based on your emotionally charged comment its obvious I communicated fine. You simply didn’t receive for whatever reason.
        I couldn’t have scientific evidence for an “objective attractiveness” if one existed. Most of the people in our population see attraction as a matter of taste. Few people like myself believe it is based on a state, an objective one. So there isn’t very much support for my views. I intuit one exist.
      - woomcwsa
        You can “intuit” a lot of things, but that doesn’t make them true.
      - Deno Moto (CynicalAnomaly)
        I intuit that people who take OKC “studies” seriously are dangerously stupid.
      - Mike
        Incorrect – as the other guy said, the OKC study showed that women judge 80% of men as being “below average.” Women are very picky (biological reasons for this).
  - That Feel
    The mentality here is wrong, you deserve and get only what you think you deserve. If you think you deserve shit, then that’s what you get.
  - rascallater
    Then why even bother treating a girl good at all? If treating a girl special doesn’t have any dividends, why the fuck do it?
    - John Williams
      Exactly. With the vast majority of women, they are not worth fussing over. If they want to sleep with you, they are going to anyway. If you fuss over them, you don’t know if they really want you, or they just like the treatment AND you likely have LESS of a chance of getting lucky. Sad but true.
  - KayGee
    >You deserve your equal, no better.
    Which is EXACTLY why all girls HB4-9 fling themselves at 9-10 Chads that pump and dump while ignoring everythign else. But “where have all muh good men gone” LMFAO.
  - John_Rambo
    A co worker of mine married a woman who only wanted him to have a baby.
    When that worked out, she cheated on him after 4 weeks.
    She was 45, and not that pretty.
    So yes, all women are like that.
- l8y8natn9ef1
  Men are way more into cheating & sex than women. just look at the sex industry for example, the female sex workers side is booming, men are lining up at brothels with cash in hand, the heterosexual male side is pretty much dead – crickets and cobwebs. The homosexual male side is booming just as much as the females, why? because the customers are MEN! Men are horny beyond comprehension and can’t even hold it together that they are willing to pay hard cold cash for sex. Of course when it comes along for free they will take it up the first chance they get! Thats a really good example of how MEN are way hornier and bigger cheaters than women, in fact, most clients of female sex workers are married!
  - Mike
    What? Your logic is wrong. The reason men visit prostitutes and women don’t is actually much simpler than that, and it has nothing to do with which gender is hornier or which one cheats more. It’s that getting laid is TRIVIALLY easy for women. They don’t have to go to a prostitute. They can get laid literally any night they want to, effortlessly. For guys, it’s way harder to get laid, especially with a girl that’s remotely attractive. Prohibitively difficult, in fact, so they often take the easy way out of prostitution. It isn’t because they cheat more and it isn’t because they’re hornier. It’s because women get sex effortlessly and men don’t
Robert Preston
Wow. This is pretty encouraging. All I’d need to do is spend a few months working out and I think I could just dump the entire seduction system.
- Robert Preston
  lol this method above has worked for me
- Robert Preston
  seriously you guys, these messages are fucking brilliant. THIS is what your system should be about.
Chief Presiding Judge
Is this supposed to be surprising or something? It’s the same in the other direction too.
A real 9/10 female model can say a bunch of stupid crap to guys and have them as personal servants in the hour. How many typical guys (90% of the population, even the above average ones) match with authentic 9/10 or 10/10 females? Virtually none.
This is the same thing here, but just reversed.
- Random response
  But guys don’t create tests and hoops to jump through for avg. girls to get a date. The standard remains the same for guys, it just happens to be on an attraction scale. Girls need to keeps the same standards for self respect, or they shouldn’t publicly shame guys for it.
- Don
  Beside the point. This guy can get away with “creepy” behavior that a less attractive guy can’t get away with. To women what matters is not what he says, but how hot he is.
Farty Fartsalot
1. That dude is not a 10. Far from it.
2. I would imagine those women were 4s & 5s (Who cares if an ugly chick thinks you’re hot?) since you rarely match with the really attractive ones. Many of them are attention whores who just want desperate suckers to follow them on Snapchat or Instagram.
3. LOL, I love how you’re using screenshots from Bodybuilding.com to support your argument. I don’t know if you’re aware but it’s basically a parody site full of the most insecure, brain-dead trolls imaginable.
- Franklin I
  you are retarded
  - Sir Farty Fartsalot
    I guess I got under a delusional miscer’s skin
- Mike
  Yeah, you’re wrong. Delusional, really
Deno Moto (CynicalAnomaly)
So the premise of the article is that some men can easily have sex with women that you did, are or will be dating. Conclusion, you should try hard and maybe you can get seconds?
Or, you could accept the reality of the situation. Alpha **** and Beta bucks. Even if you can’t be an alpha, don’t be Beta bucks. Just don’t, even the guys that aren’t weak and stupid will get dragged down by the weakness you boost this system with.
- John Williams
  The simple messages seem to be:
  -Many women are NOT sexually reserved, and in fact are quite the opposite, so don’t act like sex with a woman is some great accomplishment.
  -Don’t get married, because sex is cheap or free with many women, and you don’t know which ones you can trust.
  - Deno Moto (CynicalAnomaly)
    Yeah I got that message as well.
- ableright
  Also it means guys looking to get laid or increase dating options are focusing on the wrong things. They are trying to get more “confident” instead of becoming good looking, lean, and fit.
  Do you notice something about this guy? He’s super lean and likely has a super low body fat percentage in the single digits or 10 percent or less. It’s why he has visible abs. Most or many guys 40 or younger could get six pack abs, get lean, get down to a low body fat percentage and therefore increase their attractiveness substantially and get laid a lot more.
  I’m basically saying is low body fat and leanness is huge when it comes to male attractiveness which that model definitely has low bf which is why he has a six pack.
  So to make a long story short:
  A. Guys that are serious about getting more women should focus on maxing out looks.
  B. Being lean i.e. 10 percent body fat or less is a huge factor in that and probably the biggest factor for most men.
  C. Genetics besides being lean will play a factor. Some guys that are lean will still look way better with good genectics but almost all guys including ones with good genectics will look way shittier to the opposite sex if they aren’t lean.
  D. Most importantly how much time and energy do you want to spend obsessing about calories/food and going to the gym for this? At the end of the day is it worth it just so you can bang some bitches and get some pussy? How important is this to you?
anon
You guys are being too simplistic, maybe it’s the fact that I’m involved in the sciences but this is hardly scientific and seems more a symptom of confirmation bias. We didn’t see the cases in which it failed. I would like to see various profiles with varying attractiveness and the exact same messages. Obviously the more attractive profiles will get more matches that is expected, however I don’t buy that every single girl he messaged responded as these images demonstrate.
- rascallater
  This guy has a blog where he tries such an experiment with internet dating profiles.
  https://sirtyrionlannister.wordpress.com/2015/04/17/407/
crazedchef
MGTOW
l8y8natn9ef1
This is dumb, why should “ordinary” average looking guys have the rights to “gorgeous women”? Find someone in your own league, duh.
- ShadowRising
  You have it backwards. Average men message average women. Average women think they are too good for average men and would rather ride the cock of a stud who has a harem of women than be exclusive to an average Joe. There is study using hard data that OKCupid did a few years back on their blog proving that it is women who have the more entitled attitude with regards to looks. Thinking that the majority of men are not good enough for them, even when they themselves are average.
  - ableright
    I agree with you 100% and it is fucking ridiculous. That said some of this in the case of men can be worked on. What I’m saying is one thing you’ll notice about these “super attractive” males is they have a low body fat percentage probably around 10% or in the single digits.
    They don’t have to have huge muscles but leaness and low body fat I do feel is a HUGE factor in terms of facial aesthetics and body aesthetics for men. There are some guys with really horrible genetics that probably would still look horrible at a low body fat percentage, but I’d be willing to bet most guys would look above average if they’re below 40 and became ripped and lean.
    So what I’m basically saying is low body fat and leanness is huge when it comes to male attractiveness which that model definitely has low bf which is why he has a six pack.
  - XP
    this are still the remains of biology and evolution – females try go get the best genes for their flock
    beeing in a harem does not matter as you still get ‘the ressource’ … funny fact, the subconscious does not ‘get’ that you’re preventing getting pregnant, for it sex keep meaning babies
awwhellno
Women are acting this way because they are financially protected by their parents or they have easy access to jobs. The average age of these females is like 22? Of course when they do not have to work hard they will act like princesses looking for the hottest bang. Couple that with nature’s tendency to give females a blossoming of looks and you find women offering themselves only to the males with the highest of status or pinnacle of looks. People act this way when they have immense options without many consequences. Women tend to share their men, tend to wait for the best sexual option and charge men a handful if they aren’t their best option. This is what they do when they are advantaged. If the ratio of young thin lightskinned women were higher the men would have leverage. The West unfortunately has not emphasized breeding more women for the males at large. They are too hung up on “rights” when in fact you need at least 4 attractive women for every 1 man in order to stabilize society. Ugly women do not count.
This narcissism has spoiled the pool of females and threatened the very genetic foundation of the country as millions of females wait until their 30s to produce children. This is what leads to the rash of genetic problems in children. The West has things backwards. It is men who should only be the ones with the right to narcissism not the females. Talk to most foreign women and they will tell you that most American males are typically humble by their mid 20s because the dating scene is so chaotic. Males should have the pick of the females and females should not be coddled into thinking they can select any guy they want with no consequences. Males are the ones who produce most of the innovations. Women do little but imitate male inventions or act as spokespeople. Men also have the highest sex drive. Satiating that should be the primary concern of any peace loving Western nation. With peace and a steady food supply the only remaining demands left to meet are sex and child raising. Sex with lightskinned women is the right of kings. Western men are kings, but do not know that due to whacked out laws passed by psychopathic conservative males who can’t see past their faded glory and older women afraid of younger competition.
- platypus
  i’ll take this as sarcasm
  - Matt
    Completely hilarious though..
Pavlos Petros Pavlou
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- Ann
  Pavlov, You speak truth!
- amartinez1660
  I freaking love this comment man. How come it didn’t ripple more with the crowd…
  Anyways, either this is true (which I want to believe) or you are also a 9+ and no matter what you do will be fruitful.
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Anonymous
Hi, Ive just spoken to you in Tinder and unmasked your social experiment. You gave me the link to this article and told me not to worry, that you’d blurr out my name and face. You unmatched me immediately after that, so I didn’t get the oportunity to speak to you about it. Well Id like to say you never spoke to me in that way but even if you had I would have automatically unmatched you like I do with every guy, as Im not interested in that and I respect myself. Not all girls act on Tinder like you show on this article. Some of us have self-respect and find it really disrespectful that guys (no matter how good looking) speak to us like that. So I completely disagree; this doesn’t give an unbiased perspective. Oh, and I never consented to you publishing our conversation- blurring out my name won’t make it legal, so please don’t do it. Ps. The number I gave you in the context of “So here’s my number xxxxxxx, call me maybe” wasn’t even real, if you haven’t noticed. I was joking around because you chose the model from that videoclip. Good try with the catfish- it didn’t work with real women like me 😘
- Jacob Cope
  someone is guilty. if you still say otherwise what evidence can you provide?
Zeejet
How is this article helpful at all? I thought this website was supposed to help people do better in Tinder, but this article just feed insecurity a hundred time over.
It basically says some guys have it easy and girls will drop everything if a guy looks great. Even if this were absoutely true, it’s nto healthy to operate from this mindset.
Roger William McCarty
Just demonstrates the 80/20 rule. 80 % of the women are chasing 20% of the men. Go MGTOW