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[–]stardust_witch 131 ポイント132 ポイント  (5子コメント)

But how will we ever form a real movement without all of the people who ride in limousines that we're alienating?

[–]iPissOnRebelGraves/ Anarcho-Communist[S] 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Think of the privileged!

[–]MasterlessMan333sithdicalist 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Don't they know that's a locally owned, family limousine. How will owners ever afford to fix it?

[–]DeadPresidentJFK -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Another lost chance of building solidarity with them...

[–]Summerspeaker 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wow, folks ain't messin' around.

[–]Niyeaux 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Aren't limos usually just owned by dudes who hire them out, like how taxis are?

[–]Fairchild660 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yep, rich people own luxury cars / SUVs. These sorts of limos are owned by small-time dudes and rented out; usually for weddings, funerals, proms, etc.

I know a few people who do this, and they are scraping to get by. Although insurance will probably cover vandalism, the down-time before getting the car up again will be really rough; and if they don't have enough savings to keep afloat during that time, they'll lose their livelihood. And even if they do manage to get the car back up and running, insurance premiums will cut into their already tight margins.

Whoever vandalised this car completely fucked over some ordinary dude.

[–]ascasco 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ugh, this terrifies me. We need to be more careful with this shit. We can hat indiscriminately fuck shit up because that's how you hurt innocent people.

Starbucks and BoA deserve it, but workers are not our targets. Can't believe I have to say that.

[–]living_in_bad_faith- anarchist academic 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Taxis are mostly owned by big companies, not individual drivers. Also, rent-seeking is bourgeois.

[–]killthebillionaires 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Apparently one that was smashed today was owned by jesse Jackson.

[–]PangaeaGirls 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He tweeted that no limo was burned. I don't think it was his if he denies the smashing in the first place.

[–]DeadPresidentJFK -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nobody gives a shit, it's a limo!

[–]BrambleshireLibertarian Socialist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I heard it was secret service

[–]cowboyphinfan 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Why do people love this so much? Why does this help the movement and what is the movement even trying to achieve, serious question

[–]Elcheatobandito 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm going to say this really doesn't help much. A Limo is certainly a symbol of excess, sure, and the idea of rental is firmly against most leftist ideas, but the destruction is needless and does seem senseless in the eyes of the public, who we should be trying to sway. The graffiti was fine if the limo wasn't owned by some relatively poor personal owner, but if this graffiti was on the walls of a factory It'd have been better. If instead it was anarchic flyers raining down from rooftops across Washington, and protesters educating the public about what it is anarchism is and stands for, or something more creative, it'd have a bigger impact.

As it stands, this just looks like the chaos and violence that people negatively associate anarchism with. The type of "anarchism" espoused by teenagers smashing mailboxes while sporting circled A's they bought at Hot Topic.

[–]cowboyphinfan 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I may be lost on what anarchism is. Could you please explain?

[–]Elcheatobandito 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'll try to break it down simply

Anarchism is basically a rejection of state and authoritarian power in favor of a far more self governed sort of system. Anarchy isn't a rejection of all rules, but more so a rejection of authoritarian rules and hierarchies when they aren't shown to be beneficial to a society at large. In an anarchist system, if a group wants to enact a law or a rule, it's their job to prove it useful and the job of the public to deem it necessary.

For example, when a kid asks their parents why they can't do something, like crossing the street without looking both ways, that's an example of anarchic thought. When dad says "Because you'll get hit by a car, just watch". that's an example of a beneficial authoritarian ruling.

Most anarchism is socialist in nature, and this is when we get into talks of what private property is. In a socialist system, private property is unethical, and what socialists mean by private property is land, resources, and other means of production (factories, offices, ect). The reason that private property is considered unethical is because it reinforces social hierarchies (ruling classes, working classes, ect.) and exploitation.

This is different from personal property, which really ought to be protected. Personal property is anything you use personally. Your home, your car, your computer, and so on.

[–]BlueFireAt 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So wouldn't anarchism simply be a government that operated from the assumption of liberty?

[–]Aikidi 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well if nothing else a few million people are looking at this picture now and talking about it as it spreads across the internet.

[–]asopio 72 ポイント73 ポイント  (28子コメント)

Smashing up property really is the best type of protest.

[–]Luke_I_Am_Your_Otter 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (27子コメント)

Sorry, I'm new here. Why exactly is that?

[–]SSG_Metal 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (26子コメント)

That person may be being a bit hyperbolic, but radicals do love our smashy smashy. :)

Jokes aside, there is a serious reason to advocate for the destruction of property from a socialist position. Simply put, private property, and by association profit motive, are intrinsic to capitalism and the oppression and exploitation that it brings. Attacking the bottom line of capital is the best way to disrupt its operation. So from the perspective of attacking manifestations of capitalism, there is a decent justification to attack property. It must also be said that there is a moralistic argument to support this as well. People are more valuable than property or profit, and opposing capitalism is about protecting those people and their future.

Of course, that's just my personal and informal take on the issue. All leftists will have different perspectives and justifications on the issue.

Here's a writeup about the justifications for these actions, anyone interested should give it a read: https://crimethinc.com/2014/12/10/why-break-windows

[–]ImperatorBevo 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (23子コメント)

As a counterargument, I'm definitely a Socialist and very Leftist, but I'm also relatively well off financially (Not super bourgeoisie rich, I just do ok). I would absolutely not be happy about you or anyone else smashing my personal shit because of that.

Unless by private property you're specifically referring to the assets of businesses. I think individual property should for the most part be respected and left alone, especially if you don't know the political beliefs of the owner.

[–]Dragon9770 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Its hard to tell when dealing with new people, but you can generally trust that people here use the proper distinction between "private property" and "personal property". If you are not familiar, its private=farms/factories/machines/productive property, while personal=hats/truck/house/things that can generally only be used/consume, not produce value. The only special thing is that the anarchistically-inclined are more willing to go and say "limos, mansions, and excessively overpriced consumer products" may also be rightly destroyed for its political flavor, and outlining class distinctions.

[–]ImperatorBevo 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for pointing out the private vs personal distinction for me. I agree.

[–]PracticalAnarchyIntentional Communities Are The Future 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's a pretty good explanation, thanks. I'm going to use it to explain to others.

[–]Dragon9770 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Your welcome. Its a pretty vital distinction to make, but I am honestly surprised how many times I have had to give it on leftist subs. After accusations of gulags, the second thing leftists are accused of are forcing people to share houses and beds (and wives, which is a reactionary retort that extends from the time of the Manifesto to the meme of 'cucking'). Its important for people to know we are not actually "coming for that toothbrush whitey!" :p

[–]Aqua_Fractalyne 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just as a curiosity, but if private property = items that produce, that would include art supplies (I'm including musical instruments, writing utensils, paint, etc). Would art supplies be shared in anarchism? I could see that it might be desirable to have public studios and supplies, but personally, I feel like sharing my paint and canvases would be stepping over a line in a lot of ways.

[–]SSG_Metal 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (4子コメント)

This is why the concept of property to many socialists is defined by utilization rather than ownership in the financial sense. Collateral damage also happens, the only way to respond is to counter the anger with an explanation of the justifications for the action and support. This is why I'm a fan of following up radical action in a black bloc with plain clothes distribution of anarchist literature.

It should also be noted that the usual targets for property destruction are those who most obviously profit from exploitation of labor and the environment. Take the DC black bloc, they smashed a Bank of America, Starbucks and a McDonalds as well as some other stuff IIRC. There are plenty of reasons to attack these entities aside from being part of the capitalist class, some of them profit from prison labor for example.

The employees and owners of those franchises might feel slighted or be massively inconvenienced, but the action is supposed to serve as a wakeup call to those people that they're part of a broken system. Much in the same way that there is no ethical consumption under capitalism, there are no innocent bystanders. WE ALL cause suffering and oppression in some way, what matters is how we counter it.

[–]BummySanders 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

This might fall on deaf ears. I'm a broke kid who has bills to pay but I've been out of work. Let's say I finally get a job at Starbucks and you smash it up. Now I'm out of work for a week and paying rent means I'll be hungry. How do you justify that? You lose nothing, I do, business as usual once repairs are made.

[–]SSG_Metal 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is one of the things that illustrates why blind destruction usually isn't the means nor the end for most. Targeted destruction or disruption also doesn't exist in a vacuum. In an ideal scenario, the same people doing the smashing would either support the workers after the fact as an act of solidarity, using that as a springboard for radicalization; or they would avoid the smashing altogether and encourage and support workers to organize directly. Situational differences and overall receptiveness will dictate how that plays out.

Then again, there are no ideal scenarios in the current system. Shit happens, and assuming the scenario you describe is commonplace, then maybe that would be justification for a less antagonistic set of tactics. But honestly, I've only ever seen the situation brought up when it's used as a hypothetical to criticize direct action of the sort we're discussing, not as an actual call for support.

Interestingly, one could also use that situation as an indictment against low wages. As in the situation you describe, if you had been paid a livable wage, missing work would be less of a concern.

[–]irlcake 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not an anarchist, but judging by the answers above, it seems like they consider your loss to be eggs broken for omelets

[–]UnknownReader 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This was interesting. Although I'm not sure about how people would react to plain clothes distribution of literature justifying the destruction. Still, it has more effect that blind destruction.

[–]Cryzgnik 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm a little confused about the terms private vs personal property in this case: am I right in saying that if this limo was being used for a limo business it's private property, and if it's someone's own personal limo, it's personal property?

Is there a difference between advocating for the destruction of personal and the destruction of private property?

[–]immortallisdraconis 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So that's why poor neighborhoods look like shit all the time.

Got it.

[–]RooseveltsRevenge 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (3子コメント)

[–]AbortusLuciferumfash sit down or get put down 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've been sleeping on this album for far too long. Time to take a listen.

[–]iPissOnRebelGraves/ Anarcho-Communist[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ooooh fuck yeah, thanks comrade!

[–]ProlierThanThou>blows up social relationship 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (23子コメント)

'we the people' tho?

[–]HuntDownFascists 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (21子コメント)

Sure why not? The words themselves are fine. I think it's very poignant to use a traditionally nativist slogan on an anti capitalist motivated act of property destruction. It reappropriates the phrase and takes it to its logical conclusion.

[–]Aikidi 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The first time those words were invoked here was a pretty violent anti-government movement.

I mean, they created another oppressive government out of it, but still, there's precedent.

[–]Demos181 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Makes me happy to see comrades out doing good work against the bourgeoisie

[–]HUFFRAID 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Casual lurker here.

I don't understand how this is productive to your agenda.

How is doing personal property damage 'good work'? It's not hard to smash a car window.

Can anyone here walk me through a hypothetical sequence of events that explains how an act like this produces good change? Especially when weighed against how acts like this fuel the other side with rhetoric and images of (what I see as) childish, resentful outbursts?

[–]freedom_flowerto burn down the whitehouse 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

/r/anarchy101

anarchist is literally against private properties.

[–]Cascadianarchist2cascadian/queer/wiccan-atheist/socialist/techno-tree-hugger 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

(note that private property is not the same as personal property. The former is used to generate profit by being used by workers but the owner takes a cut regardless of how much or how little labor they put in, so they use private property to steal labor value from workers under the justification that their ownership of the property entitles them to profit indefinitely, while personal property is stuff that only has utility to you, such as the home you live in, the stuff you and your family use for daily life, etc)

Of course, sometimes the smashy smashy hits personal property too, but almost exclusively that which belongs to the owning class, which is to punish them for having that property which they couldn't have gotten without stealing value from workers.

[–]joepaulpavlin 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I van give you a non hypothetical situation. United States history. You may see it as childish outbursts but some people saw the American Revolution as the exact same thing. These people are at the very least dedicated enough to get off of Facebook and attempt to remind the leaders that they are not above being reached out and touched.

[–]Fairchild660 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's very very unlikely this car was owned by anyone wealthy. These sorts of limos are owned by glorified taxi drivers, and normally rented out to other working-class people for special occasions (like weddings and funerals). These guys are far from rich. In fact, a lot of them earn less than minimum wage.

[–]Leadfooted_mnky- Unapologetically 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Loving it

[–]8-bitrainbowz 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm glad the american left hit as hard as they did. No capitalist, no racist, no fascist, no homophobe, no sexist will feel safe. Great work comrades, solidarity with you all. <3

[–]skoomacat_88 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It continues tomorrow, comrade. And the day after, and the next. We mustn't get complacent.

[–]jamesinge 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

0 , the number of things changed by this.

[–]iPissOnRebelGraves/ Anarcho-Communist[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

True, but it made me feel better haha

[–]jpoRSbut in a reasonable way 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Seriously though, how stupid do you have to be to street park a limo on a day with publicly announced anti-capitalist actions happening?

[–]Fairchild660 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Victim blaming, huh?

[–]jpoRSbut in a reasonable way 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha, yeah I guess so.

[–]fngrs 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

it doesn't happen in america enough for most people to notice or know what that means.

[–]jpoRSbut in a reasonable way 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Anywhere else I'd concede the point, but this is DC. This isn't their first rodeo, and locals knew what was coming. Even if "limo fire" was a delightful surprise, it was still poor judgement to not garage that shit.

[–]TheChristmasFish 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Some kinda borderline insurance fraud?

[–]jpoRSbut in a reasonable way 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If it was an older model I'd think it was some kind of plant. But that things looks plenty new.

[–]skoomacat_88 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yessss. Anyone know what the graffiti says on the advertisements behind it? I can't read it.

[–]stardust_witch 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The only one I can make out is "Who do you protect?"

[–]mak02k 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't agree with burning cars in a protest but you gotta admit, this photo looks almost cinematic and would look better without the background photographer and trashcan in the forefront

[–]iPissOnRebelGraves/ Anarcho-Communist[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's all I'm saying

[–]Cascadianarchist2cascadian/queer/wiccan-atheist/socialist/techno-tree-hugger 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here's the thing with car burning: if you only burn cars that are expensive enough, you're attacking the personal property of the owning class. We workers drive older, cheaper cars. The person with a new BMW or Mercedes almost certainly has to have gotten their wealth on the backs of workers. As such, burning that car is a way to get back at them for stealing working class labor value, and deprive them of ill gotten gains.

If you burn working class cars you're an asshole, however.

[–]shyeahright99 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

And for our next trick, we'll beat down a fax machine with a Louisville slugger. "Damn it feels good to be a gangsta."

[–]iPissOnRebelGraves/ Anarcho-Communist[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha damn right

[–]egor221 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

So destroying random folks things is sticking it to the man? News to me.

[–]iPissOnRebelGraves/ Anarcho-Communist[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

True, this is nothing for the people who own the limo service.

[–]mewdejour 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

So as these pictures climb to r/all are we gonna disappear like r/Leftwithsharpedge?

[–]Cryzgnik 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That subreddit disappeared because of the attention it got from /r/SROD after being made subreddit of the day.

That being said, I suppose the attention from /r/all could just as easily get this sub reported and taken down, but from the perspective of an outsider's cursory perspective, this subreddit seems slightly less extreme than /r/leftwithsharpedge.

[–]Cnessel27 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Have worked on modern Lincoln limos, they all deserve to burn. Seeing as I worked in a suburb of dc its pleasing to think that this may have been a limo I worked on.

[–]jpoRSbut in a reasonable way 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How does that work, now that they're not body-on-frame?

[–]no1113 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (8子コメント)

That's actually not a beautiful picture. Anarchism should never necessarily be associated with violence or chaos. They're most definitely not the same things.

[–]saskanarchist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Violence whilst not beautiful can be pragmatic and in many cases necessary . I guess what O.P. refers to when saying beautiful is the sight of disorder in the capital, I too love it when people disobey authority.

[–]no1113 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Violence whilst not beautiful can be pragmatic and in many cases necessary

Oh I certainly don’t disagree with that, but it should always be a last resort and should not be advocated outright or championed.

I guess what O.P. refers to when saying beautiful is the sight of disorder in the capital

I don’t think disorder is beautiful - even in the Capital, and there doesn’t have to be disorder in the Capital in order to still take it over and bring it down.

I too love it when people disobey authority.

…but that’s not an intelligent mindset. You should never necessarily “love it when people disobey authority”. You should never champion the disobeying of authority in and of itself. You should champion the disobeying of illegitimate authority. Those two things are not the same, however.

Think of any older person you’ve loved and respected and listened to in your life - be it your parent, teacher, or whoever else. There are many people who should have authority. A parent - especially a good, loving, responsible, intelligent parent - absolutely should have authority over their child.

An intelligent, responsible, caring teacher in charge of a class and who has the well-being of the students in mind should have authority over them in terms of helping them grow and evolve in manners that the students themselves may not yet even understand and may even disagree with at times.

All this is to say that there are certain types of authority that should NOT be disobeyed. There are certain types of authority that should absolutely be abided by and acquiesced to, so one shouldn’t necessarily “love it when people disobey authority”.

If you disobey a good authority that’s there to help you do and be better, then you’d be very much worse off for doing so.

Of course this isn’t the type of authority that exists in the government. That is for the most part illegitimate authority, and it SHOULD be questioned and challenged. However, wanting the mostly illegitimate government that exists toppled should not be looked upon as being the same as wanting “all authority in general” done away with. No. Different thing there.

Ultimately, Anarchism is not an anathema to order, peace, and self-control. There is no mutual exclusivity there.

Question and topple illegitimate authority. Vie toward self rule and self responsibility. 100%. I agree with that. Toppling illegitimate authority and vying toward self rule and responsibility, however, never necessarily has to involve or be violent or chaotic in any way.

If it has to be that way, then so be it. If it doesn’t, however, then that’s preferable.

[–]Cascadianarchist2cascadian/queer/wiccan-atheist/socialist/techno-tree-hugger 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

property damage isn't violence.

PROPERTY DAMAGE ISN'T VIOLENCE

PROPERTY DAMAGE ISN'T VIOLENCE

PROPERTY DAMAGE ISN'T VIOLENCE

Violence is when you physically attack people

Attacking property is not the same as attacking people.

[–]no1113 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Doesn't matter how many times you say it. Doesn't change the fact that the point I made still stands.

[–]iPissOnRebelGraves/ Anarcho-Communist[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (3子コメント)

This is not an objective statement, but thanks for your perspective.

[–]no1113 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Neither is "Beautiful picture from the Capital."

And Anarchism most definitely shouldn't be necessarily equated with violence or chaos. That's a much more objective statement than calling a photo implying violence "beautiful". That's for sure.

[–]Dray1013 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Of course, that's just my personal shit because of that.

[–]metro_fieldlibertarian 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who's limo is this? Trumps?

[–]DeadPresidentJFK 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ok, well, now some black blocs got my message apparently. ;-)

[–]joepaulpavlin 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hope.it gets worse. I love this behavior. It reminds me of when I was younger learning about the United States history. The fighting against a king they didn't like, it makes me happy to see people attempt to tale back with force, and remind our leaders that we don't work for them, the exist to service us. I just hope it goes on and on and gets more and more violent.

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    [–]AbortusLuciferumfash sit down or get put down 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    We can't tax the rich 'cause then they'll have a hissy fit and take it out on the poor. Raise prices, move jobs and assets out of the country, buy politicians. That's their form of resistance, right?

    Well, this is our form of resistance.

    [–]Aikidi 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yeah funny thing about concentrating property and wealth into the ownership of a few is it leaves you severely outnumbered if you're part of the wealthy class.

    [–]skoomacat_88 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    socialist snowflakes who didn't get the outcome they wanted being dicks.

    No, those are people who are affected by the shit that goes on in this country every single day.

    Revolution is organizing and actually doing something that matters

    You mean... like... resistance? What could they possibly be doing out there, protesting, wrecking symbols of bourgeois power? :) It's almost like they could just be complaining about it on Facebook, right?

    All crap like this does is reinforce the thought that people that vote for Trump made the sain choice.

    Ignoring the misspelling... no. It does not. This pales in comparison with the violence perpetuated upon the working class on a daily basis.

    [–]Suitcase_Johnson -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    You do realize that you have to switch accounts before you shill right?

    Can't you fascists get anything right?

    [–]Undeadfly1 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Any particular reason I'm a fascist? I'm curious. I've never understood anarchists. All I've heard is "I hate the government and rich people and shit"

    [–]Suitcase_Johnson 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Because you support Donald Trump. A white supremacist and ultra nationalist.

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      [–]AbortusLuciferumfash sit down or get put down 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Cause I don't own a limo

      [–]TheIllustratedLaw 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      That's some deep insight you bring

      [–]Hyalinemembrane 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Brings a tear to me eye.

      [–]ass1ass1in 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Aren't limos usually just owned by big companies, not individual drivers.

      [–]sennhauser -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      What a fucking loser do you have to be to do something like that.

      [–]iPissOnRebelGraves/ Anarcho-Communist[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I know right it's like they feel their voice is unheard and they might have been in a tough spot for their adult life. Shame.

      [–]Cttam| anarcho-communist -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      A lot of kudos going to the Black Bloc showing up to put fascists in their place, but everyone should also recognize the amazing (and I think far more effective) work of the anarchists in DisruptJ20 who were instrumental in organizing actions of protest and civil disobedience throughout the day.

      [–]GOTOSLEEPJAMIE -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Is this where edgy teens hang out

      [–]iPissOnRebelGraves/ Anarcho-Communist[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      ....maybe, you fucking ageist!

      [–]dankstonhughes -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      i'm so radical i spray paint liberal slogans underneath my anarchy symbols