No.1261870
>>1261869
also someone webm please
No.1261875
I don't like tankies
But kudos to that kid for btfo Faux News
No.1261882
>>1261875
Yeah I'm pretty libertarian but I don't think I could be that quick thinking and confident on a national news network during a massive event
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No.1261897
No.1261901
>>1261870
Yeah we can't let this video slip away like the guy that claimed Karl Marx adopted the policies of cultural Marxism live on Fox.
No.1261909
No.1261911
Goddamn tankies really have their propaganda memorised, that was like fucking clockwork
No.1261914
Tankies, maybe we can be friends after all
t. ancom
No.1261919
>>1261911
>tfw maybe I should read grover furr
No.1261932
>>1261869
That reporter was pretty retarded. Does he think Russia is still Communist?
No.1261934
No.1261941
>>1261932
Huge amount of Americans still do because they think communism is authoritarianism and thus think of Putin and also Russia as communist
No.1261947
>>1261869
> Stalin would be better than Trump
Okay. How did they not cut this out?
>>1261911
If you repeat same arguments for 80 years straight, it would be real hard not to memorize answers to them.
No.1261977
>>1261949
>le Stalin killed people for wearing the wrong color underwear meme
Unless he was either:
A) Directly engaged in militant fascist/reactionary activity
B) Directly attempting to subvert or sabotage the Soviet state
C) A direct political rival or threat to Stalin within the socialist movement
… he would probably have been fine under Stalin's regime.
No.1261987
To this day, after all this time, reading shit like this nearly gives me a stroke
No.1262004
>>1261987
what's wrong with it?
No.1262017
>>1261977
>implying
The soviets set up a part council and asked everyone to give a round of applause for comrade Stalin who wasn't even there. Then they clapped for 20 minutes all to afraid to sit down. Finally one local company owner sat down and then everyone else did. Then the police grabbed the guy who stopped applauding first and pulled him outside. He was never seen again and probably died in a gulag.
No.1262023
>>1262006
Reminder that although nazbols are autist they are our comrades against Nazis
No.1262024
>>1262006
>muh fat old irrelevant mongol friend online
>>1261977
"He's" not one of those victims of communism types, He actually admires Stalin for his conservatism. Are you denying the fact that LGBT people were sent to labor camps or just outright killed in the USSR?
No.1262028
>>1261977
Lol that's why hundreds of thousands (millions) of people disappeared into the gulags and never came back? that's your explanation?
No.1262033
>>1261947
>Okay. How did they not cut this out?
Why would they? "Trump's detractors are in favor of a severely paranoid murderous dictatorship" makes for great propaganda.
No.1262037
>>1261927
>not refusing to go Russia because Putin is in fact in power and not Stalin
Autistic LARPer confirmed.
No.1262039
>>1261869
>russia is still communist
>"you never expect to walk into one"
>mfw they know exactly what they're doing
No.1262043
>>1262017
[citation needed]
No.1262046
>>1262006
would nazbols side with nazis before communists?
No.1262051
>>1262043
The Gulag Archipelago
No.1262053
>>1262031
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE2M7g_IWSE
Are you denying the fact that LGBT people were sent to labor camps or just outright killed in the USSR?
No.1262054
>>1262028
90% of all people sent to Gulags were released within 5 years.
No.1262055
>>1262046
Maybe they learned their lesson from the night of the long knives.
A man can hope
No.1262057
>>1262031
that's a really shit representation of what 'identity politics' are on the left. What's wrong with learning someone's pronouns?
No.1262059
>>1262037
he was on fucking national tv, give him a break
No.1262062
>>1262053
>bullying a kid with special needs
lol so funny bro xD xD
No.1262066
>>1262057
You mean outside of being a complete waste of time to manage some autist's feelings?
No.1262068
No.1262071
>>1262066
what? it takes essentially no effort on your part
Like I might not think their gender is a real thing, but I'll still afford them basic human decency because why not? I'm a grown adult and can be mature about these things
No.1262072
>>1262062
Agreed, we should kill them instead.
No.1262074
>>1262072
woah! so radical and edgy!
No.1262076
>>1262072
Didn't you get really salty when a bunch of blacks did this?
Make your mind up fam.
No.1262077
>>1262068
Central State archive of the October Revolution of the USSR
No.1262079
>>1262062
/pol/tard triggered when we make fun of their teenage retard torture victim.
incel autistic fascists gonna all get tortured
No.1262083
>>1262072
>Pinochet
>takes economic advice from a Jew (Friedman)
>country and economy collapses
>dude helicopters lmao
>post-Pinochet administration revives Allende's policies and everything improves again
No.1262084
>>1262033
> Why would they? "Trump's detractors are in favor of a severely paranoid murderous dictatorship" makes for great propaganda.
They were before in favour of Hillary since the beginning, no?
Well, that's probably because it is US. Europe is less tolerant for stuff like this. For example, LL (annual march in Germany about Liebknecht-Luxemburg) prefers to edit Lenin out (it should've been LLL) to avoid mentioning Communists. Moreover, Bourgeoisie literally built memorial for Stalin's victims just opposite LL memorial.
>>1262024
> "He's" not one of those victims of communism types, He actually admires Stalin for his conservatism. Are you denying the fact that LGBT people were sent to labor camps or just outright killed in the USSR?
They weren't. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with /pol/acks? Almost everyone convicted for homosexuality in USSR was either doing it with minor or it was a rape.
No.1262085
>>1262083
/pol/tards don't know history, or politics, or how to read, or anything besides anime and memes.
No.1262086
>>1262076
You're the only person who can say bad things about your sibling correct?
I know you're a skinny beta bitch and couldn't do anything but you get the point brah.
No.1262088
>>1262083
also completely cucked by the CIA
like, he was essentially a CIA employee, yet these autists still think they're anti-establishment and radical
No.1262091
>>1262086
what the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch?
No.1262095
>>1262083
To be fair, the countries economy had already collapsed under Allende.
No.1262099
>>1262084
Yeah and the gay people being tortured right now in Russia are just pedophiles amirite?
Funny how you always make excuses for sodomy being a crime in almost every leftist country but when America had anti sodomy laws it's all muh bigotry muh cultural marxism.
>>1262083
Do I sound like a libertarian? When it comes to economics I mostly agree with social demorats.
No.1262104
>>1262057
We shouldn't alienate workers by prioritizing that over socialist theory. Let them learn after.
No.1262105
>>1262099
> right now in Russia
Is not USSR.
> make excuses
I'm not making excuses. I'm pointing out that you are full of bullshit. Soviets never had anything equivalent to Western hysteria about homosexuality, nor systematic persecution. Nobody cared.
No.1262109
>>1262095
Even so, it doesn't vindicate the nonsensically glowing reputation Pinochet has among modern lolberts. He is living proof that they have never cared about opposing state tyranny.
No.1262110
>>1262086
>You're the only person who can say bad things about your sibling correct?
Exterminating people is not quite the same as shit-talking them. If you think someone should be killed then it doesn't make sense to care who does it.
>I know you're a skinny beta bitch
Weak attempt at derailing.
No.1262111
>>1262104
it's not prioritizing anything, it's not a fucking task of any kind
You literally have to go actively out of your way to not use someones pronouns
No.1262114
>>1262109
I agree, but it's not like Allende dindu nuffin. His land reform was pretty moronic.
>>1262111
I mean teaching workers why that's important, some of them might say "but there's only boy and girl!". So it's more important to teach them socialist theory, and then show how the principles of socialist theory are related to mutual respect, and emancipation regarding other aspects of society (such as gender).
No.1262116
>>1262105
>Is not USSR.
You're right, they aren't being hauled off into gulags.
>Nobody cared.
Yeah except Stalin who made it a crime, I guess the successors of Stalin didn't care about it being one though.
>>1262110
So you've never wanted to kill your family?
No.1262121
>>1262114
or you can just say "I know, but it's just gonna cause a hassle if you don't. much easier for everyone if you just go along with it" problem solved.
No.1262125
>>1262121
And then you can alienate workers who aren't as morally righteous as r/socialism.
No.1262128
>>1262116
>So you've never wanted to kill your family?
No. And in any case, feeling the urge to do something is not the same as making it your policy.
No.1262134
>>1262116
> You're right, they aren't being hauled off into gulags.
Goalposts, put them back. You've been trying to use modern Capitalist Russia as an example of Socialist policies.
> Yeah except Stalin who made it a crime
Except it was not Stalin's personal decision.
Except it was not real crime - as I already mentioned, practically everyone got sentenced for homosexual rape.
Stop your shilling.
No.1262140
No.1262148
>>1262134
It's called a hypothetical.
>Except it was not Stalin's personal decision.
The Stalinist regime then.
>Except it was not real crime - as I already mentioned, practically everyone got sentenced for homosexual rape.
Yeah I'll take you seriously when you post evidence.
Stop making me defend faggots anyway.
No.1262156
>>1262148
Not the same poster but here is some: http://www.stalinsociety.org/2015/04/08/homosexuality-in-the-ussr/
I think the authors made out the position of the USSR on homosexuality to be more positive then it was but its true they didnt really consider it a crime. My understanding is they thought that homosexuality was an illness caused by capitalist society and hence they took a more therapeutic/cultural determinist approach.
No.1262166
Should have used the "USSR went from feudal shithole to spacefaring superpower in half a century" line IMO, but still absolutely
B T F O
No.1262182
I found the guy's facebook and it looks like he's an anarchist so props for him to stand up for Stalin.
Also he shares a bunch of Leftypol memes so maybe he is one of us?
No.1262185
>>1262148
> It's called a hypothetical.
Hypocritical, more like it.
> The Stalinist regime
Is a liberal propaganda.
> Yeah I'll take you seriously when you post evidence.
Okay.
pdf-related
> The total number of convictions recorded in the sources that are accessible for the entire era of sodomy criminalization (1934–93) comes to between 25,688 and 26,076
http://www.stalinsociety.org/2015/04/08/homosexuality-in-the-ussr/
> According to Russian lawyers, most convictions have indeed been under Article 121.2, 80 percent of cases being related to the involvement of minors up to 18 years of age (Ignatov, 1974).
> In an analysis of 130 convictions under Article 121 between 1985 and 1992, it was found that 74 percent of the accused were convicted under 121.2, of whom 20 percent were for rape using physical force, 8 percent for using threats, 52 percent for having sexual contact with minors and 2 and 18 percent, respectively, for exploiting the victims dependent or vulnerable status (Dyachenko, 1995).
No.1262188
>>1262182
Is that pic selfdrawn by him?
No.1262189
>>1262140
I've already taken enough of your bait, now fuck off.
No.1262201
>>1262182
Can we meme anarcho-stalinism into reality?
No.1262205
>>1262201
You already have Anarcho-Hoxhaism. Do not demand the impossible.
No.1262206
>>1262205
And anarcho-monarchism.
No.1262210
>>1262182
he's posted quite a few /leftypol/ memes on his facebook
anarcho-stalinist, n-notice me senpai
No.1262217
based anarcho-stalinist memes himself regularly
No.1262238
Also found his twitter if any of you want to send anarcho-stalinist kid any memes;
https://twitter.com/choppafawkes
No.1262261
>>1262217
>>1262238
/our guy/
Meme dialectics are strong now
No.1262286
I was planning on posting a song making fun of tankies, but I'll save such an occasion for later.
Based lad.
No.1262312
>>1261927
HELL YEAH
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No.1262354
>>1261927
>did you know the population increased 1.6% under Stalin
HOLY FUCKING KEK
No.1263210
>>1261927
>if you kill people but more people are born then you're a good person
No.1263227
>>1263210
I think the point he was making was that if 50 million people died under Stalin then the population would have to have declined by (roughly) 30% to 25% in the Soviet Union. Which simply didn't happen.
No.1263298
>>1263210
t. newfag
Not even Robert Conquest believes his own bullshit, just lurk more and leave your questions in the Marxism-Leninism General when it comes back.
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No.1263782
>>1261869
1.6% when? Surely it was much more than that from 1927 to 1952??
No.1263814
How can people seriously still believe Stalin killed half the population of Russia?
No.1263822
>>1263298
Interesting. Could you provide a citation? Not the person you were replying to btw
No.1263853
>>1262182
>tfw anarcho-stalinist actually exist
No.1263860
>>1263822
It's true, not even Conquest believed the bs he was spewing for decades about the Holodomor being an intentional famine. I know you didn't ask for it but since other questions about the Soviet famines naturally come up I thought I'd just send some interesting screens.
Source is Bloodlies by Grover Furr but whether you like him or not the sources he quotes are all very respected and trust-worthy academic sources I wouldn't consider Conquest trustworthy but respectability is a social construction tbh