Yes I know the term “mgtow movement” is one that automatically starts a debate on semantics. Is mgtow a “movement”? is it a philosophy? is it both? etc. I use the term more as a placeholder, a lack of a better word. But mgtow is definitely something. It is something organic that cannot be held back and cannot be explained simply by the notions of men giving up on women or a marriage strike. Mgtow is simply a put, an idea whose time has come. As such it cannot be whitewashed it cannot be compromised with. This yahoo post tries to do just that.
As usual, a woman inquiring about MGTOW needs things to be whitewashed into nothingness before she can digest it properly. Women know exactly what mgtow represents… men taking control of their own lives and rejecting the marriage contract, refusing to be servants to a gynocentric system, and leading better more prosperous lives as a result. In order to do this MGTOW some times have to generalize woman. There is no way around it and frankly it is a small price to pay for the reward of a much more free and autonomous life.
People have fought wars and died for freedom…
Wait, correction…
Men have fought wars and died for freedom, what makes women think that generalizing women once in a while is a price we wouldn’t be willing to pay for it?
Not being called a woman hater or a misogynist isn’t worth a single drop of that sweet ambrosia that is doing whatever you want as a mgtow. Still some people responded. A woman actually gave a semi decent response.
If you don’t want to marry, you don’t have to. We’re not going to stigmatize you for not doing it.
You are free to setup any legal agreement with one or more partners, and as long as you adhere to expectations, regardless of what society expects of you, you’re free to continue these relationships.
For instance, if you want to date, but don’t feel like paying for those dates, as long as the people you are dating don’t have a problem with that, you’re fine. You can break up with anybody who breaks their side of the agreement.
If you don’t feel like working as hard as you possibly can to get as large a salary as you possibly can so you can pay as much taxes as you possible can to pay for the benefits that others need from society, that’s fine. If you can sustain yourself playing video games and masturbating, that’s fine.
Now … where was the sexist generalization against women in that?
You may view such people as pathetic, but fundamentally, you are simply differing with their life choices – the very choices that you would support women making.
Elana· 1 week ago
Another comment stated:
Yes. MGTOW is a direct response to feminism.
Devon· 7 days ago
I Doubt it the whole point of MGTOW is to categorize and lump all Western Women together generalize spite hate bash complain and bich about all western women as a whole
Apparently according to MGTOW
were all Gold Diggers only care about men for their money and marry men for money were all out to screw men over and rob them in divorce ruin their lives and cash in take advantage of free government hand outs from big daddy government
Were all $luts and whores skanks who sleep around with Alpha bad boys and a holes and jerks shun and hate Nice guys
we are all spoiled entitled princesses with high ridiculous standards and get fat and let ourselves go after marriage we are the worst wives mothers and women in the world blah blah blah
we all practice hypergamy we all ride the Alpha C ock carousel and “hit the wall at 30 when our looks fade and our bio clock runs out and then look for some beta nice guy cuck tool to provide for us apparently and settle down when we become used left overs while cheating on them with Alpha jerks
“Alpha Fucks Beta Bucks theory” they call it lol
we women are not capable of love or commitment
did i forget anything boys ? hmm i think i got the jist of it all lol XDYah I’ve done my homework and research on these MGTOW boys enough to write an entire college Essay Paper on them lol and i don’t think what you are advocating is possible
All their BS MGTOW Red pill theories rely on Sexist Misogynist generalizations assumptions of women being all the above i just mentioned
their whole outlook and worldview of life is literally women are responsible for all men’s shortcoming and failures in life and for their miserable life
Thats ok because that’s why WGTOW’s like me exist to put these sad angry bitter baby boy losers in their place ^-~
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Ok so lets start here
Apparently according to MGTOW
were all Gold Diggers only care about men for their money and marry men for money were all out to screw men over and rob them in divorce ruin their lives and cash in take advantage of free government hand outs from big daddy government
Pure nawalt deflection, mgtow don’t say “all” we say “more than enough” and yes more than enough women are craven predatory gold diggers. You dont like us saying it, take it up with that asshole named reality… he made it that way after all.
Were all $luts and whores skanks who sleep around with Alpha bad boys and a holes and jerks shun and hate Nice guys
we are all spoiled entitled princesses with high ridiculous standards and get fat and let ourselves go after marriage we are the worst wives mothers and women in the world blah blah blah.
I would make the argument that these are newer mgtow, still in the throes of red pill rage letting off some steam. Seasoned mgtow eventually come to the realization that mgtow isn’t about controlling women, or keeping them from tipping the scales, and it certainly isn’t about telling women who they should or shouldn’t sleep with. Bang as many “alphas” as you want. Just learn to live with the consequences when you eventually hit the wall and men decide that they no longer want you. And marriage? mgtow and marriage is 100% incompatible. The two are about as miscible as oil and water. They are diametrically opposed.
we all practice hypergamy we all ride the Alpha C ock carousel and “hit the wall at 30 when our looks fade and our bio clock runs out and then look for some beta nice guy cuck tool to provide for us apparently and settle down when we become used left overs while cheating on them with Alpha jerks
“Alpha Fucks Beta Bucks theory” they call it lol.
Again, not all, just enough. And as far as I’m concerned lady, what you do with your vagina is your business not mine. But your looks are something that will be in demand in the market of human reproduction. Given this it follows that you can engage in behaviors that allow that value to go up or down. Engaging in sexual activity with lots of dudes will definitely make the value of your “goods” plummet to most men. I’m not making any moral judgements on that, but it is what it is, this should be an issue you take up with men in general not us.
I’m going to skip to the conclusion.
Thats ok because that’s why WGTOW’s like me exist to put these sad angry bitter baby boy losers in their place ^-~
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Thats rich. A “wgtow” wouldn’t actually be called as such. You see, when mgtow coined the phrase we weren’t copying what women had already started calling themselves. A “wgtow” would be called something entirely different than a play on an acronym that men invented. The MGTOW movement can and will become lots of different things to lots of people, but one thing it should never be is willing to do away with it’s core principles to make women more comfortable. Go make wgtow acceptable to women lady and leave mgtow to it’s own devices.
♂ I predict that as MGTOW(+) becomes more & more technical & more realistic, the more the schism of the popularly influenced M.R.A. will start to happen, & the more female m.r.a.s will start slandering m.g.t.o.w., as they’ve already done to me, which is too impractical to type of how this happened, & is why got away from Y.T. that is infected by too many texting retards, & is why I suggest that m.g.t.o.w. starts to go into as many different directions on the net as possible.
Bravo.
“That asshole named reality”. Ha ha!
When I think ‘What is mgtow?’ I sometimes scare myself.
I mean, sure, hypergamy and gynocentrism and redpill rage. All that jazz.
But the fundamental shaking of my core comes from the oversight of all these things. If I missed such a huge glaring form of subversive hatred, what else did I miss?
Are my friendships normal? Or were they imaginings passed down to me from older caretaking women? The blind leading the blind.
If everyone one is hardwired to automate certain norms like male-wealth-extraction and gynocentrism, then aren’t I a biological robot? Only by breaking from it can I feel freedom. But…
Then I get a chill.
Everyone would see this break as disfunction. Acting in your own self interest is the equivalent to being a robot from the lens of those wishing gain from my utilization. Being colder, and more calculating. They would sabatoge me with the guise of ‘you haven’t met the right people’ or ‘dont think about it’
Should I trust my gut, or consensus?
Have biological robots been teaching me my entire life how they think humans are, but simplified for reproducible and predictable results?
Are my fasinations with robot sci-fi stories me musing, or is it me formalizing so that I don’t have trust my gut or a consensus, but instead a proof with sufficient power.
The questions beckoned by mgtow can run deep.
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In my opinion, the only WGTOW are sex-positive women in prostition and pornography. Male labour has gone through a lot of diversification and transformations. It went from hunting to . Female labour has primarily been sex work, and child rearing. 10k years later, Female labour now is … No different. Sorry, I mean … The same plus affirmative action.
Prostition and pornography is really the only diversified versions of these labour…
I agree with you about porn and prostitution, but these women still operate according to Gynocentrism: They don’t appreciate the men upon whom they make a living, they still think low-status men are creepy etc. But they definitely are more honest.
M.G. HOW, that’s kind of true but kind of not. P.U.A.S know female nature very well, whether you like their traitorous ways or not, so you should understand the slang-science they use: “Alpha fucks, beta bucks.” There’s also a really good video called: ‘The Ideal Man MGTOW: Do girls want men to be Assholes?’ Anecdotes do matter when it comes to understanding female nature because females are much more prone to collectivism, while males are much more prone to individualism. It’s just that now females hold so much power of the social structures that there are more collectivist men putting on acts to be accepted by the female consensus.
Did that second response actually came from a female? My guess would be a man, but grand if it’s a female who wrote it.
What is MGTOW ? TFLers in denial.
You forgot my micro penis.