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So looks like the donald is back to using vote manipulation to flood all with posts. They've only got 20,000 users online but their front page is filled with posts with votes as high as 260,000. For comparision, the second highest post in all of reddit history is only 250,000. (self.self)

spru9 が 投稿

They're also openly brigading anti trump sites. Admins really need to do something about them.

E: Here's a better comparison. The top post on the_donald is about trump winning. Everyone saying "Oh it's just high energy"? Ya. The post where trump literally won the election has 170,000 votes total. Thats less than half as many votes as their top shitpost today. It is clearly not as simple as "meme magic".

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[–]M00glemuffins 133 ポイント134 ポイント  (8子コメント)

On a similar note, I wish political subs (and all subs) would knock it off with the vote baiting titles. Stuff like "This post about x should be the new #1 post on reddit, lets get it there!" or "We haven't seen a post about x on /r/all in a while let get it to the front page". I feel like the past few weeks there have been so many posts, not just from Trump subs or Anti-Trump subs vote baiting and filling /r/all with useless spammy shit. Isn't this kind of vote baiting with titles against reddiquette anyways? Why aren't the admins doing anything about this and just banning upvote-bait post titles entirely?

[–]drdelius 59 ポイント60 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Which is exactly why /r/politics automatically deletes any post who's title doesn't EXACTLY match the link's headline. If you think they're bad now, just take a second to think how bad it could be if they allowed improvised titles.

[–]BLACK_TIN_IBIS 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (2子コメント)

SHILLARY CAUGHT MOLESTING THAT VIRAL PIZZA RAT FROM LIKE LAST YEAR OR WHAT EVER

[–]nearhear 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, they are obviously asking for votes which is against reddit rules. I wish admins would crack down on all moderators who allow this shit.
"Reddit rule: Asking for votes/vote manipulation."

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    [–]hikerfag 984 ポイント985 ポイント  (235子コメント)

    nothing on their front page is voted that high.

    [–]SaloL 485 ポイント486 ポイント  (180子コメント)

    I don't see the "250k" post either. Even the top post is one 60k-some, not the 150k as claimed.

    Granted, there may be something weird going on with the votes since that one picture allegedly (at least I didn't see it) got reduced to 0.

    [–]elshizzo 181 ポイント182 ポイント  (87子コメント)

    this post has around 280,000 upvotes.

    You can determine upvotes mathematically, 52% upvoted with 21,297 points translates to around 280,000 upvotes and around 260,000 downvotes.

    [–]SaloL 99 ポイント100 ポイント  (62子コメント)

    Ok, that makes sense.

    However, what about the 250k-some odd down votes as well? I don't think roughly equally as many other redditors are down voting it as well. You know the saying, "don't attribute to malice what stupidity can explain."

    My guess, supported by the post that went to 0 votes, is that there's something odd doing on with the algorithm or something similar (perhaps preparing for the inauguration posts tomorrow?), though I also won't go on and blame the mods vindictively. I'll wait until the admins sort it out, but in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really matter, to me at least.

    Edit: I just looked at /t_d/top for the last 24hr and they all seem to consistently have a 60+/-5% for the up/down vote ratio. Looking at /all/top, there's much more variety, going from +90s to 60s.

    Honestly, I have no idea how reddit's voting thing works or what what I just said above means or how that may tie in to a possible algorithm or voter manipulation thing from either side, but it just seems too coincidental for me to just believe one reason or another right now.

    [–]Draculea 62 ポイント63 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    I think what's happening here can be summed up as "Reddit vs. The Donald."

    On other posts in /all, you have them coming from communities that aren't absolutely single-purpose. I made a post in GTAV about a character cosplay -- but how many people are interested in character cosplays on GTAV?

    But on The Donald, you can promise that if a post is A. Supportive of Donald Trump or, B. critical of his opponents, it will be upvoted by 100% of their community. In other subreddits, you might only get ~70% approval.

    Now, when the post hits /all, you get "the rest of Reddit" voting on it. If you aren't already a subscriber to Donald, chances are you don't support Donald. So, virtually everyone who sees it from "the rest of Reddit" hit it with the downvotes.

    So, you have a consistent vote ratio: Everyone in the Donald, voted against by everyone not in the Donald who cares enough to downvote it.

    [–]SaloL 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (3子コメント)

    While that's a good point, there are a few thing I'd like to point out:

    1) Perhaps some of /t_d's posts don't make it to /all, or not the front page. I obviously haven't been on /all all day to check, but I'd imagine some of the top posts of today didn't make it to the front page, or at least didn't stay long enough for a lot of outsiders to down vote. This leads to the next point:

    2) The consistency of the up/down vote ratio. If you look on /t_d/top from the last 24hr, all the posts have a up/down vote ratio of about 60% +/-5%. With how sporadic the posts make it and stay on /all, I find it odd that they're so consistent.

    Again, I'm not at all familiar with how votes are registered or really anything of that nature, so that's why I'm trying not to draw a lot of conclusions until there's some official explanation from either admins or someone who actually knows what they're talking about.

    [–]Draculea 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    To the first point, I don't believe T_D posts can make it to the "Front Page" due to not being a default. You must be viewing from All to have seen it and, currently, you must be viewing from a Subscribed account, it seems.

    To the second, I think the ratios are the result of the posts hitting the front page, getting a ton of downvotes and aging out. Reddit's newer algos are supposed to speed up the rank movement for All and Front Page, so it make sense to me that posts from T_D get the requisite upvotes from their community to hit /All, get downvotes from the rest of Reddit (that cares / views All) to hit 60%, where they age out -- it's a cycle that I think just keeps happening, so Reddit at Large views it as vote manipulation or whatever.

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        [–]elshizzo 112 ポイント113 ポイント  (44子コメント)

        This post isn't an outlier. This shit happens constantly to /r/the_donald posts. They get an extremely high amount of upvotes and downvotes.

        I'd argue the huge downvote counts is fairly easy to explain. Most of the website is tired of their shit.

        [–]dogmania2009 77 ポイント78 ポイント  (40子コメント)

        Tired of all the political spam subs

        [–]Redfishsam 73 ポイント74 ポイント  (38子コメント)

        Preach. And it's worse that r/politics had turned into an anti-trump sub. It used to be a little less bias but now it's just as bad as the Donald. When r/the_Brendan is unbiased we have an issue.

        [–]mrducky78 49 ポイント50 ポイント  (5子コメント)

        Were you here in 2012? You sure as shit didnt see pro Romney posts.

        Nothing has changed other than subreddits getting more partisan at which point you see the power of raw numbers seep through.

        [–]thisisnothuman 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (4子コメント)

        Maybe I'm a little biased since I'm pro Obama, but in 2012 I don't remember it being this obnoxious meme circle jerk like T_D. It was heavily slanted to the left sure but this year got ridiculous.

        [–]rudycasspi 54 ポイント55 ポイント  (11子コメント)

        How is it "just as bad" when T_D literally bans you for any dissenting opinion?

        Yes, /r/politics always have lefty articles at the top. But you don't get Banned for saying anything remotely non-lefty. It's not the same thing at all.

        I swear 2016-17 is the year of the false equivalence

        This is the type of shit of even why he is even the president.

        Because Hillary was "just as bad."

        [–]chrstnbnc 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (6子コメント)

        They ban dissenters in r/politics. How do you think they get their nice echochamber?

        [–]Emperor_Mao 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (4子コメント)

        They don't ban dissenters. /r/politics is an echochamber because people downvote posts they disagree with. As someone who has posted a healthy mix of left and right wing view points in /r/politics, I have never been banned. I have been downvoted plenty though. Quite a contrast to the_d. Pretty sure 1/2 of reddit is banned from that sub for one reason or another.

        [–]msut77 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        You are wrong

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          [–]Aceofspades25 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Well what the fuck do you expect? You now have the most ignorant and gullible president in US history - of course a political sub is going to be talking about it all the time!

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                [–]Fyhr 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                The downvotes do make sense. /r/all has millions of unique views per day, all of which will see botted t_d posts

                [–]SaloL 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                But did all those posts make it to the front page? I don't know, and I don't want to ask in a condescending tone, but I'm pretty sure all of them didn't; not all of /t_d's high scoring posts make it from what I've seen.

                [–]faithle55 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                Oh, yeah; I'm dumb.

                Was trying to figure out how 20,000 people managed ten times as many upvotes. Answer: bots.

                What is going on in the mind of somebody who thinks they need to use artificial means to make their post 'popular'?

                A kid in High School who manipulates the web site to make his page the most popular and most visited in school...

                ...is still the loser that no-one talks to in the halls.

                [–]TheMarlBroMan 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                The man was elected president. If you think only 20k will upvote and only subscribers will upvote you're a moron.

                Continue the narrative that makes you feel better.

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                    [–]dogmania2009 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Seems like the upvotes count is right but the % is artificially affected by admins/algorithm cause I doubt a quarter million people actually voted either way on any t_d post. Assuming all the upvotes were fake.

                    [–]ElectronicDrug 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (16子コメント)

                    You can determine upvotes mathematically, 52% upvoted with 21,297 points translates to around 280,000 upvotes and around 260,000 downvotes.

                    Where do these numbers come from?

                    [–]elshizzo 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (9子コメント)

                    algebra

                    [–]toy_boat_toy_boat 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                    https://i.imgur.com/gIyAr14.png

                    538775 total votes - 21551 points = 517224 / 2 = 258612 + 21551 points = 280163 upvotes

                    280163 upvotes / 538775 total votes = 0.52 x 100% = 52% upvoted

                     

                    Close, but this must not be how it works because it says it's only 52% upvoted. I don't understand reddit math, apparently..

                    EDIT -- the math checks out. I'm just a bit slow.

                    [–]Roboticide 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                    Just so we're clear, the actual numbers are fake. You know this right? The only true part is the ratio of votes and the percentage upvoted.

                    The numbers are just vote obsfucation. This was a big deal several years ago when that was pointed out.

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                      [–]hikerfag 228 ポイント229 ポイント  (59子コメント)

                      Yeah, I'm not sure. Definitely nothing record breaking. IMO people should just use the filter and grow up a little.

                      [–]______DEADPOOL______ 179 ポイント180 ポイント  (27子コメント)

                      Plus, the front page is being flooded by other anti-trump subreddits too like /r/EnoughTrumpSpam and /r/politics

                      This is not an issue with /r/the_donald allegedly engaging in vote manipulation.

                      [–]Avedas 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                      Subreddit filtering is probably the only thing in recent memory that Reddit has done completely right.

                      [–]deadfisher 73 ポイント74 ポイント  (19子コメント)

                      This post from /r/politics has a score of 10 000, 2000 comments, and the top comment has around 2000 upvotes.

                      This post from t_d has a score of 35 000, by contrast it has 50 comments, and the top comment is rated 100.

                      It's quite reasonable to suspect there's vote manipulation going on, especially considering there are a dozen more shit posts just like it. When a group is manipulating a system, it's totally reasonable (and responsible) to combat that manipulation. For personal happiness, ignore and move on. For the good of the community, question and resist.

                      You know it's not just trolls doing this, right? And it's not limited to Reddit, or even the internet. There is quite likely a concerted propaganda campaign mounted by somebody with a serious bankroll.

                      [–]Kaeny 56 ポイント57 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                      Uhh did you look at the content of the posts you linked? One is basically news and discussion, and the other is a shitpost that people dont really comment on since theres nothing to discuss

                      I know you want to make them look bad but come on

                      [–]VarsityPhysicist 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      the other is a shitpost that people dont really comment on since theres nothing to discuss

                      discuss

                      Most of T_D is shitposting, the posts and comments both often are not discussion, just memes and bolded/repeated/large font shitposts

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                        [–]IActuallyLoveFatties 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        Using the score of the top comments to judge anything is pretty meaningless now that we can't see the +/- on comments. For all you know there were 10x as many people voting on the top comment of t_d post than on the politics one.

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                            [–]newtype2099 84 ポイント85 ポイント  (28子コメント)

                            That would require them being adults and ignoring what they don't like.

                            [–]globlobglob 100 ポイント101 ポイント  (17子コメント)

                            People ignoring things they don't like got us to president trump. I don't see a problem with calling out shitty behavior.

                            [–]Patt0nUSA 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            No the DNC being hacks is what got us President Trump. Also 20 genders and the PC world is what got us President Trump.

                            [–]newtype2099 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                            Or maybe it was a silent majority that, instead of venting and fuming and raging on the Internet about stuff they don't like, kept it to themselves and voted.

                            Trump is terrible, but a lot of socially liberal ideas, like it or not, are not as popular as you and reddit want to think they are.

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                                    [–]neotek 131 ポイント132 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                    OP is referring to "total" votes, not "net" votes. There are a bunch of threads on /r/the_donald right now with upwards of half a million total votes, like this one.

                                    The problem is that the total vote count is an estimate generated by RES, it's not a number that reddit displays, so it's not necessarily accurate. Having said that, the same estimation method is used to estimate the total votes for the Obama AMA thread (which is currently the highest voted reddit post of all time), so it's definitely interesting to note that reddit's highest voted post of all time has 600,000 total votes and yet somehow a bunch of carbon copy /r/the_donald threads have over half a million.

                                    [–]cwrunks 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    You're right that the vote count isn't accurate, but it is provided by reddit not guessed by RES. Tag .JSON to the end of that link and you will see.

                                    [–]neotek 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Nope, reddit doesn't show you the total number of votes, and it hasn't for quite some time now. In fact there was quite a furore when reddit made that change, lots of buttery drama and over-the-top hysterics about freedom of information.

                                    It used to be the case that the "score" key reported the overall (i.e, net) score of the thread, "downs" reported the total number of downvotes, and "ups" reported the total number of upvotes, but for a few years now reddit has hidden that information about both threads and comments, ostensibly to make it harder for bots to know if they're having an effect on the vote count. "downs" is now always 0, and "ups" just has the same value as "score".

                                    While the exact numbers are hidden, it's easy to roughly estimate the actual number of votes since reddit does tell you the overall ratio of votes, in the "upvote_ratio" key. You won't get the 100% exact number of total votes, or the 100% exact number of downvotes, but you'll be close enough for any non-spam purpose.

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                                        [–]wapey 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        That's not how many upvotes it has, that's its score.

                                        [–]TulipsNHoes 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                        Not sure what you are looking at but their initial post had something like 9500 votes 2 min after posting with 10k Trumptards online total.

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                                          [–]taco331 55 ポイント56 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                          If I understand OP correctly, he's talking about the fact that posts like this https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5oy9nn/try_defaulting_this_photo_to_0_admins_you_cant/ have 500,000 (20,000 some net upvotes right now with 52% upvoted) plus total votes whereas the Trump winning post had just over 130,000 total votes. If i misunderstood how Reddit records votes let me know, I could be missing something.

                                          [–]aggie1391 1394 ポイント1395 ポイント  (317子コメント)

                                          Seriously! They think everything is a fucking conspiracy against them. No one would fuck with them if they weren't being immature assholes spamming their shit all over the front page. I like to browse /r/all to discover fun new subs, not to see 50 pictures of Cheeto Benito because they decided to throw a fucking fit. And they're going to completely unrelated subs and spamming it too. The admins need to fucking do something about this shit

                                          EDIT: To everyone saying to filter them, I usually browse on mobile. No filtering on mobile.

                                          [–]MrHankeyDoodle 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          You can filter them if you go on a computer once and it will filter across all devices with your reddit account

                                          [–]GaiusPompeius 260 ポイント261 ポイント  (97子コメント)

                                          If you want to discover fun new things, /r/all is honestly the last place you should be looking.

                                          [–]Alacritous 214 ポイント215 ポイント  (37子コメント)

                                          I've tried hitting the random sub button but that mostly just gives me sports team subs and location subs for places I'll never go or even give a rat's ass about.

                                          [–]CakeBandit 125 ポイント126 ポイント  (19子コメント)

                                          oh my god Fuck the sports team subreddits.

                                          There are so fucking many!

                                          [–]Eduel80 50 ポイント51 ポイント  (18子コメント)

                                          and the porn ones... I'm tired of them. I even reached my /r/all filter cap :(

                                          [–]this_is_my_new_acct 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                          I have several hundred subreddits filtered with RES and 90+% are sports, porn, and esoteric video games.

                                          [–]Sojourner_Truth 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                          I pretty much RES filter any sub that posts something that's an inside joke. If you have to watch the stupid fucking youtube channel to get it, fuck off.

                                          [–]ingrown_urethra 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                          I would like to take this opportunity to express my hatred for fuck /r/The_Brendan and /r/SAVEBRENDAN. Its the most annoying circlejerk right now

                                          [–]Sojourner_Truth 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          The only things I filtered faster than that dumb shit was Trump subs and "if naked girls can get 1000 upvotes, etc"

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                                            [–]StarburstGirl 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                            There's a cap to how much you can filter out?? What is it??

                                            [–]Eduel80 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                            It's not very big. Like 50. However from another post I found a solution. You can use this addon For Firefox or chrome called RES for short or readdit enhancement suite. It can filter more. Thank KEK.

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                                                  [–]DoctorWaluigiTime 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  Not really. Just have to build up a blacklist via ignoring subreddits. Now it doesn't even require an extension to do.

                                                  [–]mrpopenfresh 61 ポイント62 ポイント  (50子コメント)

                                                  This is really it, people give more importance to /r/all than they should. /r/all is a terrible way to experience reddit.

                                                  [–]livemau5 88 ポイント89 ポイント  (36子コメント)

                                                  It's not so bad if you use filters. Personally I've only seen Trump's ugly mug twice today.

                                                  [–]ArtSchnurple 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (16子コメント)

                                                  I can't remember the last time I could say that, even disregarding my entire reddit browsing experience.

                                                  [–]Afros_are_Power 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                                  Filter out all the politic subs. It makes 5he experience much better

                                                  [–]mrpopenfresh 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                  But that's just ignoring the problem. A lot of people who frequent this site don't even know filters are a thing.

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                                                    [–]Ingrassiat04 50 ポイント51 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                    I love /r/all.

                                                    [–]melikeybacon 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                    Same here. What am I missing by avoiding /r/all ?

                                                    [–]bannana 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                    I don't know, I've curated my /r/all and it's like a second front page for me.

                                                    [–]joebleaux 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                    It wasn't until people recently began complaining about the Trump sub spamming reddit did I realize that anyone actually looked at r/all. I had no idea what they were talking about, I've never seen any of it. Why would you do that to yourself? They've made it pretty easy to cultivate a good experience regardless of what you are into.

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                                                      [–]pentakill_pupper 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      Where do I look?

                                                      [–]blackthunder101 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      you just don't go deep enough, go to like the tenth page and I'm sure you'll find something you haven't seen before.

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                                                        [–]mainsworth 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                        You can filter subreddits from all now.

                                                        [–]OrionRhodes 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Cheeto Benito

                                                        Dorito Mussolini

                                                        Agent Orange

                                                        Pumpkin Spice Pinochet

                                                        [–]Seohcap 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                        I'm not in favor of them either, but why not just block them instead of complaining that they are there? You have the power to stop seeing them, yet you aren't taking advantage of it.

                                                        [–]Kalarian_Reborn 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        You know you can just filter it out right? Haven't seen one in weeks.

                                                        [–]spru9[S] 105 ポイント106 ポイント  (62子コメント)

                                                        I just looked at their top post of all time. It's from when trump won the election. It has less than half the total votes of their top shitpost from today. All the brigaders are trying to tell me that it's just meme magic but I'm supposed to believe that the random shitposts about censorship have got them more excited than trump literally winning the election?

                                                        [–]familyvalues2 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                        Because more the_donald users online today then when the reddit vote system was reset after the election.

                                                        [–]Ballsdeepinreality 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                        This, they changed how voting works since the election.

                                                        [–]mrducky78 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        They retroactively bumped up old posts to reflect new voting systems. Its why Obama's AMA is at 260k.

                                                        [–]Consumer451 84 ポイント85 ポイント  (42子コメント)

                                                        I'm new to this website, and I'm probably not thinking of a problem with this, but...

                                                        It might be nice if posts on r/all were limited to coming from non-authoritarian subs.

                                                        What I mean by that is, if a sub does not allow open discussion on it, then no r/all love.

                                                        What I mean by open discussion is NOT deleting/blocking users with opposing views who did not violate the sub's rules.

                                                        The Donald and Late stage capitalism would be two great examples of subs that should not appear on r/all based on those rules.

                                                        Edit: spelling

                                                        [–]Retify 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                        Account almost a year old - new to the website

                                                        [–]batsomething 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                        son Im 38 I wwebsite as on the internet when you were a sperm in your daddys balls and before it was the internet

                                                        [–]-zig- 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                        Lol, oh man that takes me back. I think people are whooshing on this one because you should be swimming in upvotes.

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                                                          [–]runwidit 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          You are absolutely, 100% correct. If you want to benefit from the main reddit sections then you should operate in the same exact way reddit operates in that everyone can participate and you don't just keep adding endless circlejerks to the list.

                                                          [–]CoryGoldstein 71 ポイント72 ポイント  (21子コメント)

                                                          There goes /r/politics.

                                                          [–]lenaro 88 ポイント89 ポイント  (20子コメント)

                                                          Where did you come up with this idea? You're not going to get banned from /r/politics for breaking the circlejerk. You'll get downvoted, but not banned.

                                                          [–]Literally_A_Shill 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                          I've been banned from /r/politics twice. I'm not a Trump supporter.

                                                          It was because The_Donald has entire satellite subs devoted to following users around and brigading the report button against them. Especially after The_Donald mod was removed from there for openly admitting to working with Breitbart and pushing anti-Hillary shit to the front page during the primary. They're two steps ahead when it comes to their shit-posting and rule breaking.

                                                          https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRecordCorrected/comments/53ck4e/pretty_sure_this_user_is_a_shill/

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                                                                [–]ApathyJacks 96 ポイント97 ポイント  (18子コメント)

                                                                One of the core tenets of being a Trumpcuck is believing that you're constantly being victimized by one or more parties (Reddit "censorship", BLM, muh mainstream librul media, etc). Their ideology falls apart if they don't have bad guys to rage against, and they consider spamming their shit all over the Internet an aggressive maneuver against said bad guys.

                                                                It's pretty fascinating to observe, actually.

                                                                [–]Msmit71 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                From the Fourteen Defining Characteristics of Fascism:

                                                                1. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

                                                                [–]deadfisher 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                It blows my mind that people think their shitty behavior is being criticised because of a concerted effort to censor them. No, you are being called out for your shitty behavior because it's fucking shitty, not because anyone is out to get you.

                                                                [–]Literally_A_Shill 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                They're ridiculously blatant when they brigade and manipulate the voting system. If anybody complains or disagrees they'll just cry about censorship, use whataboutism and create alts to further their cause.

                                                                I've straight up seen posters make comments showing all their banned screen-names and laughing about how they use TOR to get around it. They purposefully break sub rules so that they can feel victimized. And that's not counting the Russian and Macedonian trolls.

                                                                https://np.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/4ze7gm/massive_botnet_from_the_altright_racists_using/

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                                                                  [–]lFrylock 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                  You can filter on mobile with alien blue

                                                                  [–]fatjesusftfbc 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  "Cheeto Benito"

                                                                  Solid nickname. Haha

                                                                  [–]FaustyArchaeus 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                  Sounds like you are calling conspiracy. You think their users have access to the reddit algorithm and they are brigading. They break no rules just filter them out. You have to remember today is a party day for them. Best day of the year and they have to wait 4 more years to party like this again

                                                                  [–]CLEAVAGER 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                  Honestly, all I see browsing r/all is stupid ass posts like this one assuming a conspiracy behind r/TD posts...which I'll only see after having scrolled down until about page 5. (Thanks, new reddit algorithm)

                                                                  It's incredibly sad to watch reddit become such a piece of junk.

                                                                  [–]-obliviouscommenter- 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  Use reddit is fun. It is free and has content filtering built into the app

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                                                                    [–]SuperSMT 53 ポイント54 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                    Here's what /r/all would look like if downvotes didn't exist

                                                                    http://i.imgur.com/5TW9YM3.jpg

                                                                    [–]Wynardtage 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                    That's both super fascinating and depressing at the same time. Thank fucking god for reddit filters.

                                                                    [–]mightymig 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                    This should be higher up, a lot of people in this post really don't seem to understand that they're looking at average votes and not net upvotes.

                                                                    [–]Swayze_Train 475 ポイント476 ポイント  (70子コメント)

                                                                    Every time the admins fuck with T_D it just gains them support because people hate administrative censorship.

                                                                    Just take T_D off of your r/all and do something better with your life than wringing your hands.

                                                                    [–]PM_Me_NetflixGiftcar 142 ポイント143 ポイント  (51子コメント)

                                                                    I'd be okay with it if it was limited to taking t_d and enoughtrumpspam stuff off my r/all, but now we've got a variety of other subs shitposting and reaching r/all and it's getting really annoying. Honestly at this point I wont mind if they ban seeking of upvotes in posts.

                                                                    [–]iams3b 185 ポイント186 ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                                    Oh god, the influx of the subs. The Brendan, the Dennis, the gaben, all of these no content subs just vote manipulating each other to r all are killing this website

                                                                    [–]Put_It_All_On_Blck 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                    Honestly, besides the vast amount of users and content this site is shit these days. Mass market meme's, corrupt admins and mods, astroturfing, hiveminds worse then ever, etc.

                                                                    [–]TossMeAwayToTheMount 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                    It's impossible to even tell if they are a tribute or a mockery because they seem to attract the worst from either side to stampede r/all.

                                                                    [–]aWildRepubAppears 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                    They have no staying power.

                                                                    The_Donald does.

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                                                                      [–]Tricky_Troll 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                      Lmao, that would totally destroy /r/me_irl

                                                                      [–]PM_Me_NetflixGiftcar 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      Heh true but it's a pointless sub at the moment anyway, /r/meirl is better.

                                                                      [–]OddlyPacific 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                      So we'll agree this website itself is garbage then yes?

                                                                      [–]PM_Me_NetflixGiftcar 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                      Not if you have your own niche subs to frequent.

                                                                      [–]OddlyPacific 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                      Yeah. I do. They aren't on r/all...but that's not what we're talking about. We are in fact talking about the main page of this site and how vote manipulation gets shit to the main page. This the site is garbage. Because it's main page is garbage because it's voting algorithm is shit. So the site is shit.

                                                                      [–]Xidas 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      The main page of reddit is the front page. That's why reddit.com links you to your front page, not /r/all. This site is only going to be as good as you make it based on the subreddits you choose to subscribe to. And since you can block subreddits from /r/all now, you don't even have to do that if you don't want to - just block any subreddits that you don't like.

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                                                                        [–]GonnaVote4 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (27子コメント)

                                                                        does it upset you that r/politics is a giant anti trump circle jerk?

                                                                        No, because it fits the narrative you like

                                                                        If pro obama shit hit the front page every day would you care?

                                                                        It amazes me how annoyed people get with anything that isn't hate filled towards Trump

                                                                        [–]LeviathanDabis 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                        Actually I have all the hilaryforprison, T_D, politics, enoughtrumpspam, etc. blocked because at this point they are all just posting completely one-sided views of everything that fit perfectly into their narrative, and it is just one huge circlejerk on either side.

                                                                        Places like worldnews where actual discussion sometimes takes place are much better, but I refuse to allow my feed to be filled with echo-chamber posts on either side of the political spectrum. All these hivemind subreddits do is continue to create hostility between the members on the other "team", while making a mockery of America in the eyes of those who live outside this country.

                                                                        You can't say any discussion of value or meaning can happen in a subreddit where anyone who has an opposing point of view is instantly permabanned.

                                                                        [–]iams3b 51 ポイント52 ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                                        Yeah idc about the narrative, politics at least links to articles and shit, and then talk about it (even though biased), where t_d just upvotes pictures of trumps face with a title in all caps or that one pic of Hillary with the KKK leader

                                                                        I wouldn't have filtered t_d from all if they said anything meaningful, even if I don't like him. I'd actually love to read discussions by people who are trump fans, I find it interesting

                                                                        [–]PM_Me_NetflixGiftcar 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                        Look, I'm not even from the US. I don't subscribe to r/politics (as much as I'd like to know the state of things, I'm aware that it's pretty biased so even if I do choose to visit it, I take everything with a grain of salt.)

                                                                        And yes, if the pro-Obama stuff to hit the front page were shitposts and memes, I'd absolutely care and I'd be just as annoyed then as I am now. Anti-trump or pro-trump posts hitting the front page now are mostly shitposts, and now we've got more subs joining the shitpost circlejerk and it renders the front page useless. All I'm asking for (which seems to be asking for too much, apparently,) is for this trend to stop.

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                                                                            [–]constructivCritic 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                                            On the contrary, most of us, the silent majority, love "censorship" by the admins, because it usually just curtails annoying behavior. We're just not very vocal as those with more time on their hands.

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                                                                              [–]RainbowEffingDash 348 ポイント349 ポイント  (33子コメント)

                                                                              where do you see a single post there with 260k upvotes. Go to /r/pics, the top post there has 60k upvotes but there are only 11k people there. I hate the donald but you just have no idea what you're talking about

                                                                              [–]unwantedcritic 198 ポイント199 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                              And you don't have to be subscribed to a sub to upvote a post.

                                                                              [–]PronounciationIsKey 70 ポイント71 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                              or be currently browsing it!

                                                                              [–]dxrth 59 ポイント60 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                              You're confusing net votes with total votes. Get RES and you will see.

                                                                              [–]TrollErgoSum 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (25子コメント)

                                                                              He said votes...not upvotes. That's upvotes+downvotes, not the post's score.

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                                                                                [–]ITworksGuys 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                You know people don't have to sub to a subreddit to vote on it right?

                                                                                [–]ePants 190 ポイント191 ポイント  (20子コメント)

                                                                                You do realize that people can vote on their posts even if they're not subscribed, right?

                                                                                You're acting like only people who are subbed there would ever upvote any of their posts, which is pretty dumb.

                                                                                The number of upvotes doesnt indicate brigading - it just indicates that there are far more Trump supporters around reddit than there are The_Donald subscribers.

                                                                                [–]GonnaVote4 77 ポイント78 ポイント  (17子コメント)

                                                                                I up vote most their crap when I come across it simply because of all the censorship that is directed at them

                                                                                [–]VaporDotWAV 93 ポイント94 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                You do realize that not wanting to listen to the border-line crazy Preacher on the corner with a megaphone doesn't make me guilty of censorship, right?

                                                                                [–]Destr0p 68 ポイント69 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                But wanting Authorities to silence him is. You can tune him out. Reddit even gives you the tool

                                                                                [–]Letterbocks 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                Block it from your all filter then

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                                                                                  [–]nofattiesplease 51 ポイント52 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                                  simply because of all the censorship

                                                                                  probably also has to do with the fact that you spend all day every day posting about how Clinton and Obama are awful and how everyone is biased against Trump and how Trump is great.

                                                                                  But sure, you're just an impartial redditor concerned about censorship.

                                                                                  [–]GonnaVote4 56 ポイント57 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                  I don't post about how awful Obama is, I personally think he was a ho hum President, not bad, but not good.

                                                                                  You won't find any posts of me "trashing" obama, but you will see me talking about narratives etc.

                                                                                  I have never once in my life posted that Trump was great...I think the man is a moron, completely unfit for the job and constantly remark at how stupid I think he is.

                                                                                  You will find no post in my history where I praise Trump.

                                                                                  But what you will find is my distaste for the media and their over the top lies....I constantly talk about how I am not a fan of trump as I think he is a moron but I'm also not an irrational hater who thinks he is the second coming of hitler.

                                                                                  I'm not concerned about censorship either...Reddit is a private company and can censor who ever the fuck they want. I completely support their right to censor the donald anyway they choose but I would consider it a mistake on their part.

                                                                                  That being said, I will support any group that is being censored

                                                                                  [–]Radical_Moderate_ 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                  I like how you say you are against censorship, and this guy just attacks you personally as a way to marginalize your opinion.

                                                                                  Identity politics.

                                                                                  [–]JaylTheGreat 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                  What a reasonable person

                                                                                  [–]yebsayoke 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                  We have the most reasonable people, don't we folks?

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                                                                                          [–]epoxy_proxy 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                          I wonder how the new ability to filter subs from /r/all has affected their numbers now that nobody is there to downvote their shit anymore.

                                                                                          [–]elshizzo 137 ポイント138 ポイント  (52子コメント)

                                                                                          This used to bother me until reddit added that subreddit filter option. Being able to see the frontpage without being smothered with anti-intellectual vote botted posts has been great for my sanity.

                                                                                          At this point it doesn't look like reddit is going to do anything about them, i'd suggest the entire site just filter them out so they can metaphorically be really loud while everyone has them on mute.

                                                                                          [–]SecTrono 41 ポイント42 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                                          this solution is kind of selfish. artificially boosting things to the front page can have serious influence on public opinion and reddit is a lot more influential than you think. its a dangerous thing.

                                                                                          [–]Jeclubs 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                          They're not "artificially" boosting things. We have always been given the ability (as far as I know) to vote and downvote as much as we would like. With a small dedicated and active community you could dominate /r/all. This is common sense and I am surprised nobody abused it earlier. The ironic thing is that /r/s4p was the first political and popular extension of this mechanic, spamming /r/all constantly and then ironically out of nowhere /r/the_Donald came in and did it that much better.

                                                                                          [–]Spezeditsuserposts 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                          Spez started it with the algorithm "tweaks", this is the natural response

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                                                                                            [–]LifeWisher17 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                            For a minute there, I thought I was the only one with the filter option for r/all.

                                                                                            [–]ragweed 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                            Exactly. Don't get outraged. Ignore. They don't have any influence.

                                                                                            [–]threerocks 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                            Really? Why is everyone mimicking them if they have no influence? I think they have a ton of influence and people don't like how much they hey really have.

                                                                                            [–]reality55 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                            Except in the White House and both sides of Congress.

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                                                                                                [–]uktvuktvuktv 120 ポイント121 ポイント  (27子コメント)

                                                                                                It takes 1 min to go there and upvote everything, plus Rising.

                                                                                                then go to other subs.. so the 20,000 online thing is just a fraction of them

                                                                                                [–]shorty670189 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                Honestly at this point it doesn't look like reddit is a party day for them.

                                                                                                [–]1vixor 139 ポイント140 ポイント  (17子コメント)

                                                                                                So are we not gonna talk about ETS and how magically they have the top post?

                                                                                                [–]ABgraphics 82 ポイント83 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                                                they have 1 top post, probably got most of it's upvotes from people tired of /r/The_Donald's shit

                                                                                                [–]NorthBlizzard 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                When ETS, /r/politics, /r/impeach_Trump, /The_(insert celebrity here) and other Trump hate subs reach the front: "oh it's just because a lot of people must hate Trump.."

                                                                                                When T_D reaches the front: "No way anyone would upvote that! Brigade!!"

                                                                                                [–]wapey 41 ポイント42 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                                Why the downvotes? It's true isn't it?

                                                                                                [–]TheChowderhead 45 ポイント46 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                                It is, but T_D doesn't believe in the truth.

                                                                                                [–]TriumpOfTheWill 45 ポイント46 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                The truth is that most people with a brain stem who don't like the_Donald content have already filtered it out.

                                                                                                So now everyone's just left with ETS filling everyone's /all with "anti-spam" anti-Trump Trump content resulting in, what's that? Trump spam!

                                                                                                It doesn't do anything, either- negative or positive- Trump posts. He's still the President and the memes have not hurt or helped the man in the least, just created a lot of upset folks on both sides.

                                                                                                So four to eight more years of this infighting? I sure hope not, but I honestly don't see it going any other way. Vitriol hoooo!

                                                                                                edit: a word

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                                                                                                      [–]Lotso_Packetloss 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                      I'm not subscribed to their page, yet I gave it an upvote. The point being membership numbers aren't the determining factor for votes.

                                                                                                      [–]reTired_death_eater 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                      I forgot they even exist anymore ever since I started to filter them on r/all.

                                                                                                      [–]mairedemerde 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                      Unsub from T_D and learn how to internet. I've never seen a single post from there and I couldn't care less about what they post.

                                                                                                      [–]ImNoSheeple 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                      Censoring T_D will on guarantee Trump an 8 year term. Censoring him is further agitating everyone. You can simply filter out the bullshit like everyone else and stop acting like the world revolves around you. By the way, the admins have done something and it only hurt them very bad. /u/spez openly editing comments and manipulating post points to zero.

                                                                                                      [–]J_Schnetz 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                      Just block it ffs

                                                                                                      [–]GonnaVote4 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                      OMG....you ignore trolls if you want them to go away, you don't keep feeding them like this

                                                                                                      PS...seems you are full of it, which is far worse....

                                                                                                      [–]RecursiveBacon 70 ポイント71 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                                      20,000 users online, TD has nothing with more than 25,000 up votes. Stop lying.

                                                                                                      [–]nofattiesplease 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                      right now I see 21.2, 20.5, 19.1, 24. 27.6, 30.4, 26.9 ...

                                                                                                      pretty much everything is 20k and over. That doesn't account for downvotes or vote fuzzing. It is an odd subreddit in that it only has 380k subs but manages to get 20k+ on every single post, whereas a sub like /r/pics with 15 million rarely breaks 3k.

                                                                                                      [–]kaizack 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                      what it is is dedicated users who upvote everything.

                                                                                                      In other words, HIGH ENERGY

                                                                                                      [–]nikorette 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                      HIGH ENERGY

                                                                                                      Why is it so hard for non /r/the_donald users to understand the vast majority of subscribers upvote absolutely everything every single day. I'm not even from USA and I upvote everything on the first 4-5 pages of td atleast twice a day.

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                                                                                                        [–]jon909 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                        Who cares. Seriously just filter them. People whining are being dumb and probably just trying to push their own agenda. Just filter them. It's as simple as that. You don't like their views or posts. FILTER. It's really not as big a deal as Reddit is making it (or /r/the_donald for that matter)

                                                                                                        [–]balorina 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                        Just an FYI, Reddit does not give you vote totals that is RES calculating it for you using the formula: Total Points / (2 * .UV -1)

                                                                                                        The calculation is an ESTIMATE, and the closer you are to 50% the further off it will be.

                                                                                                        Or, if you want to take that route, How does this post from a subreddit you like get to 330,000 votes on a sub with only 66k subs total?

                                                                                                        [–]praisekek2016 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                        op is full of shit.. the most upvoted post there today is like 30k

                                                                                                        [–]jake_and_her_guard 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                                                                        The enoughtrumpspam sub is much more annoying.

                                                                                                        [–]Deeptrance83 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                        Let me tell you about this neat feature called the filter...

                                                                                                        [–]Bioluminesce 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                        This might come as a surprise but you don't have to be on a sub to see its posts and vote on them. So the "there's only this many users online (in that sub)" thing is fairly moronic to how the site works.

                                                                                                        [–]merreborn 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                                                                        I'm not seeing anything at 200k+ anymore -- looks like some sort of admin action has been taken?

                                                                                                        This post seems to refer to that:

                                                                                                        "Try defaulting THIS photo to 0, admins!"

                                                                                                        [–]jl2121 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                                                        There never was a post at 250k upvotes. This post is a complete lie.

                                                                                                        Edit: or a legitimate mistake... Possible OP saw 25.0k and thought it was 250k? Either way, the whole thing is shit.

                                                                                                        [–]autranep 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                                                        250k upvotes not net upvotes. Really weird that no one in this thread seems to understand that distinction...

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                                                                                                          [–]kampasta 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                          and when admins figure out the new exploit the_donald is using to brigade the front page, we're going to see the same whining all over again.

                                                                                                          Nobody else is being punished for this, just us! There was no rule against this specific thing, you can't punish us! Not making all of our shitposts the first thing you see is taking away our rights to free speech! It's not our fault for abusing loopholes, it's your fault for not filtering us!

                                                                                                          I can't wait

                                                                                                          [–]raoulduke415 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                          In sorry but I see the exact opposite left propaganda just as much.

                                                                                                          [–]Letterbocks 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                          Thw Admins fucked with the algo and exposed it. It posses people off - even non trump fans.

                                                                                                          [–]bleedingjim 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                          If you don't like the subreddit why don't you filter it out? There are multiple ways to do that.

                                                                                                          [–]Felteair 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                          I must be in a Morrison factory, because all I see is salt

                                                                                                          [–]SkyNights 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                          Muggle don't understand meme magic.

                                                                                                          [–]Hogans_hero 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                          You don't have to subscribe to vote...

                                                                                                          [–]berlinbears 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                          People can upvote and then leave the site? Users online does not mean users who upvoted the post.

                                                                                                          [–]Lonsdaleite 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                          /r/SandersForPresident has the number one post with 46,000 upvotes and only 2,300 comments. Why aren't you crying about that?

                                                                                                          /r/EnoughTrumpSpam was the top post all day with 49,000 upvotes and only 2,300 comments. Why aren't you crying about that?

                                                                                                          [–]prodigy2throw 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                          Can we blame this one on Russia too?

                                                                                                          [–]TheMuteness 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                                                          They use vote botting and manipulation to make the "tri post images" you see with an image being split up into 3 pieces and then coming together on the front page to make a full image. It's utterly blatant and the admins need to grow a pair and remove T_D from the site and stop this "bastion of free speech" bullshit.

                                                                                                          People spewing unsourced, faked bullshit like "teachers at this school are sharing bathrooms with your daughters" is downright dangerous and is being used to sway minds that don't have the time or thought to fact check.

                                                                                                          [–]Lonsdaleite 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                          "bastion of free speech" bullshit.

                                                                                                          It's not bullshit. Free speech allows thoughts ,GOOD AND BAD, to be examined under public scrutiny. Free speech is part of our culture and is there for unpopular speech. Authoritarians such as yourself are afraid of differing opinions and want them censored but you are without question in the wrong here and are shooting yourself in your own foot. If they say something negative that most people disagree with then a public disclosure of that opinion exposes them. That's the beauty of free speech. If the_donald pisses you off then filter them out just like you can refuse to listen to others in public. If you want to see "fake news" head on over to r/politics where Trump kicked a baby out of a rally and called for Hillarys assassination. If you ban the_donald for your reasons then you must ban r/politics as well because "fake news" is flowing from all political spectrums lately.

                                                                                                          [–]TEH_PROOFREADA 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                          Any sources for your fake accusations?

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                                                                                                            [–]_Kintsugi_ 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                            Who cares? Get RES and add them to the filter.

                                                                                                            [–]fantasy939393 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                            this post is at 307 and there are less than 300 online.

                                                                                                            OMFG vote manipulation!!!

                                                                                                            You lefty retards are hilarious

                                                                                                            [–]SendNudesOrMemes 50 ポイント51 ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                                                                                            You realize admins have it set to where the amount of users online aren't accurately reported and have special rules specifically designed for /r/The_Donald which they've admitted to?

                                                                                                            Liberal retardation at its finest.

                                                                                                            [–]lbrol 52 ポイント53 ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                                                                            You would have gotten your point across pretty well without the last line insulting more than half the country.

                                                                                                            [–]Thedeadlypoet 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                            You mean like how conservatives have been insulted, being called uneducated racist rednecks? Or nazis?

                                                                                                            [–]Toss_Player 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                            damn, maybe if you had said that to the hilldog before her deplorable statement we would have a different president.

                                                                                                            [–]rileymanrr 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                            More than half? Nope. Neither party has a majority, there's a buffer of independents that keeps either from a majority.

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                                                                                                              [–]nightbefore2 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                              100-0 real quick there genius

                                                                                                              [–]mackenzieb123 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                              Stop going on /r/all and start doing you.

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