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[–]ambwftwAMHF son 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's toxic for full Asians too

[–]NotHapaningPlease enter your racial mix 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yep, except for white-worshipping AF

[–]nightfall117I support r/hapas 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The mods are either white or white worshippers. absolutely disgusting.

[–]Oxman1234Please enter your racial mix 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (4子コメント)

That sub is pure apologist detritus. It was the first Asian related sub I came across and I was banned pretty quickly and not even for anything objectively offensive, crude or anything. The liberal SJW mods there simply ban you if you disagree with their ideology. I don't even think the mods of that sub are all Asian American. They subscribe to the kumbaya, Asian American issues second mentality that is so rampant in today's liberal "activism"

[–]19930423LDr 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I got banned for suggesting that Taiwanese and Hongers might have been shamed into rejecting their Chinese heritage by the white international establishment.

[–]qwertyuiop670Hapa[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I've found that the majority of these "Chinese" PAAs are actually Taiwanese and Hong Kongers who only use their "Chinese-ness" when its convenient (i.e. to speak on behalf of all Chinese Americans or to give insight on China despite never having been there).

Constance Wu is a perfect example of this.

[–]19930423LDr 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ya, I've sort of notice this too.

"Let me tell you about how awful the Chinese government is and how dirty and uncivilized those mainlanders are despite never having been to China. Oh and have I told you, I am actually X pure Asian ethnicity, not Chinese. Haha, I'm so cool. Accept me, white people, I hate China too."

or it's

"I support Hong Kong going back to Britain again. It's not like we were treated as chinks and banned from going into white exclusive areas or that Hong Kong was created by sexpats to drain the wealth out of China. No we don't care about that. Also let me tell you about how the white peoples almost gave us democracy two years before we were going to be swarmed by the commy Chinese. White people taught us how to be civilized amiright? We just don't like mainlanders. Independence hoo rah!"

[–]qwertyuiop670Hapa[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

When you call them out for racism or sinophobia, they go back and claim, "Wait! But I am Chineeesse! I can say that!"

But they will proudly declare that they're Taiwanese or a Hong Konger, not a dirty mainlander, when non-Asians are around.

[–]SandeeCheetah1/2 Asian 1/2 White 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's a relatively inactive sub. No one posts there and daily page views are only a fraction of what we see here.

If recent trends (that are the primary focus of discussion in this sub) hold steady, Asian America will be hapa America in a generation or two anyway.

My main issue with the moderation of that place is that they attempt to distance themselves from hapa issues most of the time (ER, Holtzclaw, relationship talk), but then immediately try to take credit for hapa successes only when it suits them (actors landing roles, Olympians, Nathan Adrian etc.), without giving due credit to their mixed background. They also give short thrift to full Asians who have paid their dues, especially if it doesn't fit their "narrative".

For example, I remember they highlighted an article profiling "Asian American" Olympic athletes, all overwhelmingly hapa, while "conveniently" overlooking the ping pong and badminton teams, of which every single athlete was 100% fully Asian.

[–]qwertyuiop670Hapa[S] 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why want to pretend the problems of WMAF and hapa identity don't exist. They want us to show our faces, but won't give us a voice. Then they display us proudly whenever a hapa is successful.

No wonder it's mainly run by sellout Asians. The same sellouts who will have hapa children and continue the ruthless cycle.

[–]gangstametapodWMAF raised by AMAF 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Asianamerican is toxic for everyone - that's why it's been fragmented off into other smaller subs so many times

[–]SandeeCheetah1/2 Asian 1/2 White 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

And wanted to add. This (r/Hapas) currently is the largest and most active Asian American subreddit. This is confirmed by the data. This should be stated in this sub as much as possible so that Google places us near the top for anyone googling an "Asian" Reddit forum for discussion.

[–]qwertyuiop670Hapa[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good. We are the future anyways. Who wants to visit a repressive, boring sub like r/asianamerican that circlejerks over Boba Tea and Taiwanese celebrities all day?

[–]whatwronginthemindQuapa | Filipino/White | imgur.com/coZar2H.jpg 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We're also the top online community for hapas too. Frontpage of Google for both Search terms 'hapa' and 'hapas'

[–]whatwronginthemindQuapa | Filipino/White | imgur.com/coZar2H.jpg 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (5子コメント)

They shadowbanned me for talking about the Asian American targeted crime spree in Sacramento.

I live near Sacramento, been to the community that was targeted multiple times (good banh mi) and thought I could add some more details to the discussion.

Naw. Shadowbanned.

I got them to normally ban me too after that.

Still pretty funny since one of the subreddits that I'm a headmod at /r/interracialdating is on their sidebar lol

[–]qwertyuiop670Hapa[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Still pretty funny since one of the subreddits that I'm a headmod at /r/interracialdating is on their sidebar lol

LOL you should totally troll them. Ban r/AsianAmerican mods from that sub and speak out against them on r/interracialdating -- they can't do shit!

[–]whatwronginthemindQuapa | Filipino/White | imgur.com/coZar2H.jpg 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

/r/interracialdating used to be a SJW subreddit till I took it over. It's on a lot of sidebars. Including /r/asiantwox

Could do a lot of stuff with that sub lol

[–]Hotfire-ColdiceCorean/Canadian. heil hapas 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The sub's name has potential since it is a searchable term. Glad you own it. It makes the most sense for mixed race people to mod interracial subs.

[–]tsuo_namiPlease enter your racial mix 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I second u/qwertyuiop670's suggestion that you can use r/interracialdating to do some "damage" ;)

[–]Octapa7/8 Chinese 1/8 Hawaiian 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pretty much every post actually worthy of discussion gets locked and hidden.

I find the comment/post hiding the most distasteful part of their modding. Instead of confronting the issue, or even deleting it, they'll just hide certain views from everyone else as to somehow "protect" the innocence of their viewers. WHat a patronising way to treat Asian Americans. It's shit like that makes AA's look weak and impressionable.

[–]Hotfire-ColdiceCorean/Canadian. heil hapas 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

They only allow articles to be posted, no discussion text posts which are way more interesting. All hapas are shadowbanned. They defend wmaf. They are far left which is as crazy as far right.

[–]qwertyuiop670Hapa[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

All hapas are shadowbanned

This.

[–]nightfall117I support r/hapas 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Us asians who post on aznidentity or asianmasc are also shadowbanned. At this point I'm sure their mods are white or white worshippers.

[–]ianAlex68Filipina + German WMAF son 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (7子コメント)

r/aznidentity is pretty good. Yeah, I know they're hateful and fucked up, but their goals align with our's, and I think they should be our allies. Despite their flaws.

r/asianmasculinity is pretty lousy. I thought it would be a site or uuhhhh subreddit dedicated to asian male heroes throughout history, but it's just a bunch of folks complaining. There's not really alot of celebration of asian male heroes, mostly just complaining.

[–]qwertyuiop670Hapa[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

My issues with those subs is that they keep trolling here and suck up to Indians.

I also wouldn't say that r/aznidentity and r/asianmasculinity completely align with our goals. We want our own identity, while they seem mostly concerned about getting laid and want to drag us along.

[–]officesquat 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

they seem mostly concerned about getting laid

This is not true, and blatantly dishonest. There is a lot of activism to improve the image of Asian men, self-improvement, twitter brigading, and the whole kulture website to call out the shit hollywood does.

We do not want to drag you along. At the most, we use you as an example of what happens to WMAF, and even that's extremely rarely used due to the nature of our activism, and the nature of your sub. You being dragged along is the inevitable consequence of the image of Asian males being raised through our activism.

[–]qwertyuiop670Hapa[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My main objection with r/aznidentity and r/asianmasculinity is the constant sucking up to Indians. We don't include South Asians as Hapas here.

[–]gangstametapodWMAF raised by AMAF 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've gotten in a couple arguments on aznidentity. It seems to be a "no nonsense" type of sub and any type of perceived shitposting gets you banned. Don't know what their strategy to grow is if they don't let their users exhibit personality

asianmasculinity is like a shitty meme sub full of ugly short dudes that blame their failures on their race

[–]whatwronginthemindQuapa | Filipino/White | imgur.com/coZar2H.jpg 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Asianmasculinity was better in the past.

Then it went to shit.

Also started drowning out hapas and went ban crazy.

Got banned there for talking about hapa stuff. They unbanned me but I'm not going back.

[–]nightfall117I support r/hapas 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah some guy went crazy in AsianMasc and started mass banning people. That's why aznId was created. Or so I've heard.

[–]NamisaurAsian Father - Hapa Mother 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I haven't been in the asian subreddits for long, but I do have to agree. r/asianamerican was the only asian-related sub I ever visted in my entire time on reddit before I found /r/hapas and the other subs last week.

It didn't leave a good impression seeing as how I never visited it again nor did I ever seek out any asian-related subreddits ever again till recently.

On the other hand, /r/hapas has a lot more anger and hatred amongst the users than most subs I visit, but the thing I like about this sub compared others is that even when there's someone you really dislike visiting, making posts, and making highly disagreeable comments here, they don't just instantly get banned and posts removed ( I think. Don't prove me wrong here ). There's a lot of good discussion here and I'd daresay it's probably the best asian-related sub, although it's a bit more focused on certain topics and possibly has quite a bit more catfighting going around haha.

[–]MayanJadeChinese/Anglo-Saxon 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I've been pretty lucky there so far - but I'm fully aware of everything OP has pointed out. The fact that I post here will probably get me shadow banned the next time I post/comment anything there.

I started a thread there once about full-blood Asian vs hapa in media - like should full-bloods plays Hapa characters and vice versa? I got some interesting responses and the commenters seemed pretty reasonable. If you search for "hapa" threads, I'm sure this thread will pop up - if anyone's curious I'll post a link.

I got a PM from a very angry full-blood Asian-Canadian stating firmly that full-blood characters should never be played by mixed blood, and ranted about how hapas have it so much better than full-blood Asian. Regarding his opinion on the media portrayals, I had no strong feeling one way or the other, the purpose of the thread was to see if anyone else did and clearly I struck a nerve. But I spent a long time trying to explain hapa issues and how maybe we have it better than full-blood Asians in some areas, but worse in others. I'm not sure if I got through to him, but I kept the debate as civil as possible, at least on my end.

One a separate incident, someone posted some original content, a little comic about AM hair vs AF hair and depicted the AF hair as being so perfect and flawless. I made a comment stating how I didn't think it was that accurate regarding the AF hair, that they often complain how dull, straight and boring their hair is, wishing it to be more colorful, wavy, etc. Lots of other alleged AF's agreed in the comments.

I got a furious response from another user demanding to know why I would even venture into r/asianamerican since I clearly was not Asian - I guess because of the way I explained Asian hair. I explained I was hapa with very non-Asian hair and he quickly apologized and admitted he too was a hapa. His initial angry reply got a bunch of downvotes and my initial comment and reply to his comment had a ton of upvotes. Not sure if that gives us a clue on the sub's overall feelings with hapas - or maybe's there's no correlation there.

Anyways those are the only notable incidents in my limited time in r/asianamerican.

[–]ambwftwAMHF son 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I remember that hair comic. Fucking lol why do Asian Americans think that all Asians are alike? I know full blooded Koreans with natural hair as kinky as black people all the way through curly, wavy, etc. That's like saying all Asians have monolids. That was such a dumb comic, I felt it was clearly a dig at AM.

[–]MayanJadeChinese/Anglo-Saxon 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's right, it was meant to be self-deprecating humor, as the AM in the comic was a caricature of the artist. He depicted himself as having spiky chest hair, and I've never met an AM with those.

And I was wrong to assume that all AF had more or less the same hair from my comment, but I did get a lot of agreement though. But you're right, Asians come in many forms.

[–]Onerealhapa 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

  • Gas light hapa problems as belonging to a "fringe, bizarre minority"

  • Exclude hapas from their dialogues about hapas

  • Remove all references of r/hapas and the discussions/concerns voiced in it

  • Make an account called u/unkle, and make your flair "HAPAS ARE ASIAN" while nearly all of the vocal hapas in actual need of some inclusion had to go to a different fucking forum so as to not be gas lighted...

And that's r/AA in a nutshell.

Edit: Most annoying part? r/AA is either stubborn as fuck, or just dumb as fuck to not realize co-opting is how they get control of the convo... denial just makes their bullshit that much more blatant. But who knows, maybe that's just too incompatible with the users they're courting now.