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The cultural impact of Drag Race (self.rupaulsdragrace)

glasgowboy27 が 投稿

There have been a fair few posts on here denouncing any fans of Drag Race that aren't LGBT. This is personally disappointing to me because part of the point of the show is to demonstrate to as wide an audience as possible the artform of drag.

I personally love seeing people showing their support for the show and the 100 queens that have graced the runway, especially when I hear stories about families coming together to watch it or people going against type (straight men and women falling in love with the show).

Drag will never be mainstream, but as a gay man, I love that misconceptions of queens are being adressed and quashed, that queens are becoming more popular and earning their coin, and that the artform of drag has become more accessible.

We should celebrate this, and not moan about "Oh I hate that straight people are getting into our thing".

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[–]GrotesquetteKatya Zamolodchikova 49 ポイント50 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I was almost relieved when the contestants on Celebrity Apprentice had such an uncomfortable reaction to Alaska. It was further proof of how niche drag is, and it hasn't "Sold out" or "Gone mainstream" as other people may imply. Drag may one day go mainstream, especially with a platform like drag race. That won't be entirely negative, since once it goes completely main stream, are society's ideas of gender have progressed to an amazing point. However, for now, I think we can all enjoy drag as a unique, crazy, and wacky phenomenon that we can all find comfort in together.

[–]Starmongoose_ 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Im a gay man, so I'm well within the target audience for drag queens.

but I probably never would have seen one without this show.

Thanks Drag Race for bringing drag queens into this nerdy, doesn't like bars or clubs little homosexual.

[–]mantidor 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Are there any clips of this? that is really something I enjoy about the show's popularity, mainstream outlets featuring the queens and really don't knowing how to respond to them.

[–]Loverofdance 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

John Lovitz was not having it, oh at all.

[–]NextLiving -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

our*

[–]muwabRIP Slogand 💅🏿🙅🏼💀 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It would be great if we could go one solid day without a "celebrate the straight allies" thread.

[–]trauerlied 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think a lot of us are just tired of seeing 20 variations of "I am a STRAIGHT, HETERO MAN, with a WIFE, and I thought Latrice was funny! Did I mention I'm a STRAIGHT MASCULINE MAN??"

[–]godiegoKimono You Didn't: Murasaki's Journey I'm Still Here 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (3子コメント)

because part of the point of the show is to demonstrate to as wide an audience as possible the artform of drag.

?? says whomt ?

"Oh I hate that straight people are getting into our thing".

now don't get me wrong. i am all for anyone of any sex, religion, skin color, creed, gender, sexual attraction, whatever, to enjoy drag. however, history also shows that once straight ppl (namely Straight White People) get ahold of something it's bastardized, commodified, and a shadow of what it once was. so i'm all for people enjoying it! just......enjoying it properly.

[–]glasgowboy27[S] 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Now I'm with you on that. Lip Sync Battle is dire, and we certainly don't need note of that.

[–]Loverofdance 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Even if drag is going mainstream, it will always find its niche and push itself further.

[–]nivoraShangela? 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

to further your point; Lip Sync Battle, it is a straight rip off of the LSFYL

[–]frozenmargaritas 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

One thing for me is that the beauty industry (which is a fucking juggernaut atm) is HUGELY influenced by drag makeup right now and I think a lot of that has to do with how much RPDR has made drag in general more accessible. Id bet there's a huge overlap in makeup fans and women who watch drag race who didn't necessarily know much, if anything, about drag as an artform before.

[–]serendipitousssFor two years, Patricia wore that lipstick 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Drag will never be mainstream but Drag Race is. It is watched, in part, by a passive non-LGBT audience who then take and commodify elements of it (catchphrases, mannerism, lipsync-fucking-battle) without then supporting drag as an art form. Those same people would never support local drag or even see one of the queens from the show.

They watch it, essentially, for what it is: disposable reality television telling a compelling story.

[–]SainteRita 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (3子コメント)

"Drag will never be mainstream"

Disclaimer : I'm all for inclusiveness and can't stand it when people talk about cultural appropriation and start a turf war about who should be enjoying drag. Just check your privilege. Now though, a few words about the commodification and Disneyfication of drag. I just think that drag got mainstream the moment queens started to sell merch or take part to WoW's Youtube shows. I agree it will probably never reach a wider audience than it already has, but it is mainstream - though a case could be made that many drag performers keep looking for that subservive margin drag has always been about.

[–]glasgowboy27[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well, I suppose it's mainstream to a degree, but there will always be a kind of "underground" vibe to it. It's still considered taboo and something to be looked at through cynicism by a large percentage of the general population.

[–]SainteRita 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I just edited my previous post while you posted yours - completely agree that the margin will always be the core of this artform, and there will always be pioneers to explore new forms of drag.

[–]TheOneDocAlaska Thunderfuck 5000 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed. I don't mind when the mainstream enjoys what I consider boring if that puts coins in Artists hands.

[–]emmadonohoe 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I mean, i agree and have posted things like that on this sub but im more interested right now in your username and are you a fellow weegie?

[–]eeewwAlaska Thunderfuck 5000 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck at this point the "we love straight people" circlejerk is gaining momentum to overcome the "fuck me with a rake Katya is my mom" circlejerk.

[–]elrepu 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh I love that straight people are getting into my thing.

[–]ljb9JUST RUVEAL IT ALREADY!!!!!!! 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was expecting a sophisticated comment on cultural studies and rdr's impact on it but here we go... it was just cishetgate. ugh I'm so fed up with this

[–]bigjoyouscelebrationbut why are you talking 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Please end this pandering to straight ppl and put me out my misery tbqhwu

[–]glasgowboy27[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Because straight people are the enemy now? Get over yourself.

[–]bigjoyouscelebrationbut why are you talking 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (2子コメント)

They are, why do people get offended when I say I don't like this sub when it becomes a circlejerk over the Good Straights whom we should worship because they watch a TV show that we do. If you think that it's worth celebrating then you should honestly bury your head in a history book because I'm tired of sheltered young gays telling me I can't take the piss out of straight people (the people who have historically enjoyed torturing raping beating and killing us).

[–]tedsmittsoh god my oats I can't feel my oats 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yes, they are. Cishets are scum.

[–]BlasiFeelsSwift👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

miss maxine would be really disappointed after reading this comment ted

[–]Anusluvr666Alaska Thunderfuck 5000 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Miss Maxine is currently on a long and dangerous quest to find a new hat so she'll never see this.

[–]dwarfgouramiSlaytina -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

as if Max knows how to use the internet without a wolf-boy managing all her shit

[–]TheOneDocAlaska Thunderfuck 5000 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not now.

Historically they've always been "the enemy".

Torturing and killing us for millennia.

Depending on where you are on this Planet they still do.

[–]BlasiFeelsSwift👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

who hurt you?

[–]bigjoyouscelebrationbut why are you talking 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

straight people! :)

[–]BlasiFeelsSwift👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 👐 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

👀👀👀👋👋👋👀👀👀

[–]bigjoyouscelebrationbut why are you talking 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

stay woque®

[–]prayforkatya 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I have a straight, male, cis friend who loves the show.

I think we should be ok with this because it shows a level of inclusion never seen before.

We don't want to be judged if we decide to watch football, so why would we do the same?

[–]gemininatureDerrick Barry's 1000-yard Scientology Stare 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I mean no one is JUDGING, but when people start trying to praise these straight people for being oh-so-woke, it's obnoxious.

[–]prayforkatya 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

when people start trying to praise these straight people for being oh-so-woke, it's obnoxious.

Agreed.

[–]bigjoyouscelebrationbut why are you talking 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Football is a straight thing now?

[–]prayforkatya 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, that's what I'm saying. It's not exclusive to anyone, both drag and football, or whatever.

It's just that "sports" are wrongly associated to straight people. Sorry if came out wrong.

[–]thedragdoctorTeam Porn &Drag 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

foot on balls?

[–]amanthasin drag race history -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have a straight cis male friend who I sometimes think loves drag more than me (bi/pan cis girl.)
He also screams and shouts when watching football and refers to his favorite football team as "we."

[–]6-O-9Alyssa Edwards 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is the first time I've heard of this.

There are stupid people on every sub that say dumb shit.

Why even validate them with a post like this? You're not converting anyone. You're just increasing the visibility and reach of their crap.

[–]executive_fishNot that girl, that Woman -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Drag Race is an exclusive cash grab for Rupaul and his clique of drag daughters. To quote Sharon Needles it has "whitewashed" drag and made it more politically correct. It's a detriment to gay culture by homogenizing (ha homo) the idea of what a drag queen should be. That being said. Straight people can fuck all the way off! Just my two pesos don't @ me

[–]dwarfgouramiSlaytina 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wouldn't really call it negative for gay culture. Even many gay people (including me) wouldn't know much of anything about drag/lgbt culture without the show. It certainly made me feel a lot more secure in my queerness knowing that there were tons of people like me on television.