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[–]uppitydownity 105 ポイント106 ポイント  (16子コメント)

This is satire

They've stolen this: http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/two-cia-agents-arrested-by-minutemen-while-crossing-mexican-border-with-1300-pounds-of-cocaine/

WNDR assumes however all responsibility for the satirical nature of its articles and for the fictional nature of their content. All characters appearing in the articles in this website – even those based on real people – are entirely fictional and any resemblance between them and any persons, living, dead, or undead is purely a miracle.

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/disclaimer_/

Although....

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/russian-hooker-who-had-sex-with-donald-trump-mocks-his-tiny-penis

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/russian-hacker-says-he-regrets-putting-donald-trump-into-power

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/trump-tweets-taco-bell-to-make-tacos-in-the-u-s-or-face-big-border-taxes

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/electoral-college-elector-commits-suicide-to-avoid-voting-for-donald-trump

[–]errantdashingseagull 101 ポイント102 ポイント  (14子コメント)

~500 upvotes in 2 hours for a story from the site that brought us journalistic bombshells like "AUSTRALIA: 600-POUND WOMAN GIVES BIRTH TO 40-POUND BABY" and "JAPANESE WHALING CREW EATEN ALIVE BY KILLER WHALES, 16 DEAD".

Yeah, some real "critical thinkers" in this sub.

[–]uppitydownity 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Search this sub and you'll find a lot of submissions from them, a former mod even posted one a day or two ago but deleted it later.

worldtruth.tv doesn't seem to be satire, but a little searching and I've found dozens of pieces that they've stolen from WDNR.

[–]NutritionResearch 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I asked the mods to remove this like 5 hours ago. They apparently don't remove posts with satirical sources.

Indeed, we really do prefer that users make comments regarding their opinion as to veracity in the comments.

We're janitors, not gatekeepers.

[–]uppitydownity 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They'll claim it's because of the tons of edits and efforts of OP to bury the link that is now halfway down the post ...of course the title is still there.

Presently OP is jumping at the idea that they must have unwittingly posted this to show that the CIA only permit satire to remain and this proves their drug involvement - https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5oj1rb/two_cia_agents_arrested_by_minutemen_while/dck2pa8 . They jig to any tune that doesn't require admitting they were duped and are duping others.

[–]0xFFFFFF 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Maybe this post will get a not verified tag? nahhhh

[–]unixcorn 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah, some real "critical thinkers" in this sub.

yeah, this sub fell for pizzagate hook, line, and sinker as well. idiots.

[–]funknut [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

The whole sub, man! Idiots, the lot of them! Almost as if you or I aren't here.

[–]freedmason -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah, some real "critical thinkers" in this sub.

Beats the hell out of websites that say things like

"Kennedy killed by lone gunman"

[–]errantdashingseagull 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Kennedy killed by lone gunman

Yeah, CNN's coverage when Kennedy was assassinated was embarrassing, total mouthpiece for the CIA.

[–]boydedgarcharles 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yea they are a clever bunch!

[–]goldenshowertrump 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (4子コメント)

The source of that is World News Daily, which has other stories like this: http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/russian-hooker-who-had-sex-with-donald-trump-mocks-his-tiny-penis/

[–]errantdashingseagull 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (3子コメント)

You should submit that one to this sub, see if it gets 500 upvotes in two hours like this story did. Somehow I don't think that story will get the same reception.

[–]goldenshowertrump 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha, just did. Let's see how fast I am banned.

[–]goldenshowertrump 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

annnnd banned. Lasted a good hour though.

[–]moparornocar 368 ポイント369 ポイント  (122子コメント)

this sounds pretty fake honestly.

why the fuck would the CIA dudes even have CIA id's while bringing coke over the border, and then go on to tell the minutemen what they were doing and their plans?

not saying I dont think CIA is in on some shady drug running potentially, but this story just sounds absurd and fabricated to me.

[–]-imagininnn- 78 ポイント79 ポイント  (37子コメント)

According to the source article the vehicle was registered to the CIA and they had a receipt for the coke from the cartel.

“What drug dealer in his right mind, demands a receipt for 1300 pounds of cocaine? There is really something strange about these guys, and we believe the CIA possibly knows more than what it is ready to admit.”

[–]moparornocar 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (18子コメント)

id be interested to see said receipt.

[–]kybarnet 50 ポイント51 ポイント  (13子コメント)

There's also a surprising lack of conformable details, along with a 'rushed' narrative.

THIS JUST HAPPENED! last night! But, no date at all, etc.

For those concerned over fake vs real news, most long term Conspiracy Theories rely about at least a few pieces of substantial evidence, along with circumstantial. Fake news pieces will be entirely circumstantial, but with high quality presentation.

Real conspiracy theories generally rely upon a variety of people reaching the same conclusion, and generally systematically eliminate all 'reasonable' alternatives. Fake news pieces present a 'what if' scenario, and then create a movie, book, and fan club to support such a bizarre situation - Fake news also tends to have 'bizarre' confirmation, such as the picture of this guys 'CIA badge' but with it blurred out? Seems legit, but why the blur? Who in the CIA allows you to take a pic of their person, at all?

Likewise, occassionally, fake news will suggest 'immediate' action or judgement. Real conspiracy theorist generally just want a trial. An open investigation in which the evidence is reasonable presented, and their explanations documented on record.

Anyways, for new comers, that's the general way you can distinguish enraging propaganda vs reasoned justice.

[–]WallyWinthrop 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Real conspiracy theories generally rely upon a variety of people reaching the same conclusion, and generally systematically eliminate all 'reasonable' alternatives.

Would you mind listing a couple, please? You seem to be a lot more grounded than the average "conspiracy theorist" so I'm really curious which conspiracies you consider to be legitimate.

[–]kybarnet 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think the sidebar has a list (or it use to?) of 'confirmed' conspiracies. But if you just want some basic one's that I don't think any sensible person could deny, when presented a complete set of data:

  • US Media primarily serves to provoke, rather than inform (Propaganda)

  • 9/11 Required a significant amount of internal assistance, far beyond the operational control of a cave dweller (whom CNN did a live interview with just months before... but the CIA could never find!) - Gov. Sanctioned Terrorism

  • That the FBI played a pivotal role in murdering, or allowing the murder of a huge number of civil rights activists.

  • That the government makes no attempt to be representative of the desires of the people, that goes far beyond mere incompetence (tyrannical)

  • The murder of Robert Kennedy is completely suspect - http://www.jfk-info.com/teeter2.htm

  • There is practically no way Lee Oswald was the only shooter against Kennedy. That would require a level of marksmanship that would place him in like the top 0.1% worldwide, and I'm not sure if anyone has been able to physically reproduce his claimed abilities.

  • The 3rd Kennedy, who lost to Hillary for Senator of New York by death, seems oddly 'coincidental'.

  • The choosing of Truman over Wallace as the successor to FDR, is completely mind boggling. Truman essentially had no political history, and was never elected to office. Instead FDR won and died almost immediately, and then Truman dropped some A-bombs forthwith, and essentially declared war against Russia immediately after. It was an odd set of coincidences and behaviors.

  • Prescott Bush (father to George) was the head financier for the Nazi Party, while living in Texas. Essentially he money laundered for Hitler, and then won 2 Presidencies. Interesting...

Watch Oliver's Stones Untold History of the United States if you want to a basic rundown of the last 100 years without filling it up with racism.

[–]Spider__Jerusalem 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just a few points...

There is practically no way Lee Oswald was the only shooter against Kennedy. That would require a level of marksmanship that would place him in like the top 0.1% worldwide, and I'm not sure if anyone has been able to physically reproduce his claimed abilities.

It's a popular myth that Oswald was a terrible shot. That said, a Texas Live Oak was in his way, and the gun he was using couldn't cycle fast enough to get off the shots. This is especially evident when you consider people were hit with fragments of bullets on the overpass in Dealey Plaza, meaning there had to have been more than one shooter.

The 3rd Kennedy, who lost to Hillary for Senator of New York by death, seems oddly 'coincidental'.

No Kennedy lost to Hillary. Moynihan was Senator from New York for decades, but he was planning to retire in 2000. JFK, Jr. had a blind poll done in 1999 to test the waters for his candidacy when Moynihan retired. Kennedy's numbers looked very good. Then he died in a plane wreck. Clinton ran and won the seat.

The choosing of Truman over Wallace as the successor to FDR, is completely mind boggling.

As Untold History of the United States makes clear, there wasn't any shadow conspiracy behind that. It was obvious. The Democratic leadership did not like Wallace. They put up with FDR because the people loved him, and FDR used that leverage to get Wallace on the ticket in the first place when he replaced Garner. With Roosevelt's deteriorating health, the Democratic leadership feared what would happen with an even more radical Democrat than FDR. Enter Truman.

[–]bananawhom 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Yes absolutely, but that "fake news" term is gross.

[–]hippyflip28 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

True, call this fake news and it allows for the whitewashing of any past events that took place between the CIA and the cartels

[–]bananawhom 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well my point is that "fake news" is the lazy buzzword the MSM pushed to discredit something while not encouraging critical thinking and examination.

It's a gross oversimplification that even being used honestly could mean anything from:

inaccurate, intentionally inaccurate, heavily-biased, propaganda, black propaganda, disinformation, psyop, misleading, misrepresenting facts, misrepresenting rumors, misrepresenting proven falsehoods, truth mixed with disinformation, half-truths mixed with disinformation, etc.

[–]PutmeinKoch 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

FWIW, NPR just did 15 minutes on "fake news" because of the new laws in Germany.

The reporter stated at least twice that "fake news" is actually highly organized propaganda, and not the goofy fake internet stuff that's been going on for years.

[–]Glass_wall 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can't we just go back to "propaganda" and "hoaxes"?

Those words are fine.

[–]papersheepdog 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

also the story of responsible volunteers defending the national border plays to certain values and we just want it to be true

[–]Iamnot_awhore 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Think they have an automatic 18% gratuity charge?

[–]moparornocar 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

if they do it better be listed on the damn receipt so we know before hand.

[–]johnyutah 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Hi, I'd like to return this..."

[–]HurricaneSandyHook 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The real conspiracy will be if it is longer than one from CVS.

[–]ravonaf 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (13子コメント)

What drug dealer in his right mind, demands a receipt for 1300 pounds of cocaine?

If you want to do business with the US government you better provide a goddamn receipt. As crooked as the CIA is they are still a government agency. You have to track every penny....lol

[–]11teensteve 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

yeah right. the state dept. lost billions of dollars that went unaccounted for just before 9/11. only the lowest level of government agencies are held to the fire. its all about control.

[–]WestCoastHippy 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If real, it's likely a bill of lading.

[–]Awesomo3082 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

If you bring your cocaine home, and find that the packaging was damaged, or that you weren't satisfied with the product, you can return or exchange it from the dealer you purchased from. You can either swap it for more cocaine (minus shipping and handling), or exchange it for other products, such as heroin.

But if you try to do this without a receipt, it may take hours on the phone with customer support supervisors to work it out. And you may be killed. Always keep your receipts.

[–]DuntadaMan 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can confirm, work in customer support.

You'd be amazed how many people forget their receipts, and can't even tell me the location and time of purchase. At this point I am honestly required by company policy to shoot them on the spot because of our "Never look like a punk bitch" policy.

It really is an inconvenience to us both. If you can't get your paperwork together don't bother calling, we can't help.

[–]DoYouBooBooDoYou 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The receipt is only to make sure the agents deliver a certain amount

[–]teenwithnomoney 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Didn't 1.5 billion go missing from the Pentagon?! Didn't the CIA operate a black budget? Yeah I doubt there was a receipt. Let's not forget the CIA bought 10Kg of LSD! Do you think congress signed off on that one?

[–]Scroon 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The receipt is so that HQ knows exactly how much cocaine is supposed to be delivered. It was probably more of an invoice than anything else.

[–]WallyWinthrop 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Chief, ::sniffle::I swear to god! Johnson spilled his soda on the bundles. One of them got really soggy so we had to throw it away. This nosebleed is completely unrelated.::sniffle:: ::sniffle::

[–]rmxz 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

[from the article] 2014

Time Magazine claims Sinaloa had a DEA partnership at that time.

... drug dealer in his right mind, demands a receipt for 1300 pounds of cocaine ...

One that's attempting to frame whomever that receipt is made out to.

[–]SmedleysButler 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The source article is shit its two paragraphs long. All the evidence we see is they have used their own aircraft or often military aircraft, see Texas Airforce case, this just doesn't make tactical or historical sense. I know they run drugs but not a couple of hundred pounds at a time in a Truck that's just asking to get caught. I don't see one other article sourcing this info.

[–]ixholla 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They pull out their CIA badges because.

1 They don't give 2 Fucks....

2 The Cocaine CIA Express Shipment will be delivered as usual and on time.

[–]freedmason 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

CIA involvement in drug running is already well-confirmed.

[–]Loud_Volume[S] 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (63子コメント)

Edit: this was my reply before looking into this further. Please read my original post as I updated it with new information

I respect people that look at both sides of the story but this one has truth written all over it.

Besides, if banks have been found laundering money for drug cartels

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/15/hsbc-has-form-mexico-laundered-drug-money?client=safari

What's stopping the CIA funding their black ops budgets with black market sales of drugs? Only makes sense

Not to mention the head of the CIA had to come out publicly and dismiss that these people were "related to the CIA" which goes to show that it did in fact happen.

[–]moparornocar 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (51子コメント)

yeah, like I previously said. im not denying that the CIA may be in on some shady drug running deals. I said this specific story sounds fake to me from the details given.

It makes zero sense they would just cave and give away their plans to these people and show them their ID's. Youd think CIA would have some sort of fake id's made for the people actually doing the drug running and such. Also that they woudnt just blurt out their plans the second they are caught.

Thats my thought on it though.

[–]Awesomo3082 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Once you get the CIA to start monologuing, they'll tell you everything. I've seen a lot of movies, so I can confirm that almost all bad guys do this.

[–]emperorisnaked7 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I also don't believe they would give up the goat that quick. Why not call their superiors and have them deal with it? Then this story wouldn't get off the ground.

[–]captaincarb 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Exactly this. I have to believe the CIA has the ability to completely fabricate a new identity. Why not just give them fake ID's with fake names and fake US citizenship

[–]moparornocar 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

exactly, and if they do get caught, conveniently get them out of prison.

[–]Scroon 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They probably had fake IDs as well. But when in the custody of a self-regulated armed militia, which ID would you pull out? Hector Hernandez, import-export business man, or Jim Smith, CIA?

[–]arbitrarysquid 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

On the other hand, it would also be in the realm of possibility that some cartel coke smugglers had some fake CIA credentials that they presented with a story about how they were CIA so hands off.

[–]11teensteve 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

this feels like a more probable scenario. no CIA agent is not going to carry anything that links them to the govt. you get busted you keep your mouth shut and contact the supervisor asap. it gets handled from there.

[–]SugarsuiT 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

honestly, I think you are right, who even knows if the ID's are real, I agree they run drugs, but to get caught, and self identify... it's like these false flag guys leaving their ID's laying out to be found... too convenient

[–]WallyWinthrop 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

honestly, I think you are right, who even knows if the ID's are real

I wonder if it's illegal to impersonate a CIA agent...

[–]AhNeem 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

As someone else said. If you got caught would you pull out your Jim Smith expert drug smuggler id out or Jim Smith C.I.A id? I know what I'm pulling out.

[–]SugarsuiT 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

depends on the consequences.

[–]Ashleysdad123 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well they might be on a rushed timeline if they were transporting cartel assets. How would it look if they are arrested and then released? Even worse, they could miss some delivery deadline that endangers someone else.

[–]Loud_Volume[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (28子コメント)

What fake id's could be used to legitimize your drug running operation?

The fact alone that the CIA head had to publicly deny this or the ownership of that cocaine throws weight to the fact that they could be CIA agents.

I see it as they didn't blurt out their plan they merely presented CIA ID's in an attempt to get the Minutemen to let them go

[–]moparornocar 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (23子コメント)

I mean, I sure as hell wouldnt be using a CIA ID. Literally any fake ID made up, the CIA certainly has the capability to do so.

If they truly were running drugs across the border, I would fully assume they would have fake passports/state id's without their actual names made so if they were caught. They get arrested, and conveniently "transferred" out of jail/prison.

Just seems dumb to flash CIA shit when you get caught, especially when armed men stop you on a border and you have 1300 lbs of cocaine on you.

[–]Loud_Volume[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (19子コメント)

Okay so what are the alternative theories here. Again, I respect skeptics but what possible alternative theories could there be?

Let's say these were 2 random drug runners with a fake CIA ID.

Why the fuck would they risk even more threat, charges, and the like by using a fake CIA ID let alone while carrying 1300 pounds of cocaine.

Let me tell you something.

1300 pounds of cocaine.

Let's lowball an estimate and say that one pound of cocaine sells for at lowest, $8,000.

1300 pounds at $8,000 is $10,400,000.00

Are you telling me that two drug runners used fake ID's while carrying TEN MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF COCAINE?

[–]moparornocar 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Honestly I dont think CIA even runs drugs on the ground, especially when they have the option to fly pretty easily under the radar, or around the scope of your normal flight patterns and such.

That right there seems pretty risky when they have other options.

[–]Loud_Volume[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Are you going to dismiss the fact that they had over 10 million dollars worth of cocaine?

And that the US government was caught working with the Sinaloa cartel

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/the-us-government-and-the-sinaloa-cartel-2014-1?client=safari

And that the cocaine was from the Sinaloa cartel?

You can't get that many coincidences on something like this. Cmon man.

[–]moparornocar 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (8子コメント)

no not at all, but there is good evidence already that the CIA uses its planes for drug running. Which is why i think it is dumb they would use ground vehicles instead of said planes.

you seem to keep thinking I dont see any connection with CIA and drug running. Thats not what im saying or have been saying.

[–]libbylibertarian 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seems logical to use more than one method of delivery, in order to protect yourself from various threats. If you do things the same way all the time you become...predictable. This can become a dangerous thing when you operate in a black market chock full of violence.

[–]Loud_Volume[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I see what you're saying but as I previously said all we can do as outsiders is conjecture because we truly don't know what their drug running operation entails as we are merely on the outside trying to look in.

[–]FlyntFlossy912 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Why do you assume they can only use planes?

Also I think you're giving too much credit to the guys who have worked to disenfranchise America for so long.

[–]cjluthy 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Also consider they have the use of stealth drones at their disposal.

[–]FlyntFlossy912 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So does the military, but do they exclusively use them? Of course not.

It's not much of a stretch to say the CIA would do something like this, especially with all the circumstantial evidence OP has provided.

[–]arbitrarysquid 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Are you telling me that two drug runners used fake ID's while carrying TEN MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF COCAINE?

If you were carrying ten million dollars worth of cocaine, would you not be carrying a fake ID?

[–]FlyntFlossy912 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Why would you carry CIA IDs of the many to choose from?

You are asking for trouble doing that. Occam's razor.

[–]Karmelion 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Maybe you get pulled over by some American minute men and give them your ID thinking that the minute men will just let you go without checking your cargo once they see that you're CIA. Why is that so hard to believe? The first thing I would do to get these guys to let me go is tell them in law enforcement or CIA or FBI

[–]FlyntFlossy912 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Good thing those minutemen actually checked, if you were there this would've never been a story.

What kind of logic is that?

[–]AerThreepwood 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean, it's illegal for the CIA to operate within the US, so I feel like admitting to being an Officer seems like a bad decision. Especially as militias seem like somewhere that would attract the "black helicopters" crowd.

Edit - I'm not saying they don't because of course they do, but I don't think they'd admit to it for all sorts of reasons.

[–]TheRadBomber 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Just how haphazardly they were trying to smuggle is what's sending up red flags about the authenticity of this story for me. They couldn't disguise their vehicle to look like a Border Patrol Vehicle? It wouldn't be hard to fool some dopey Militia guys with just a little effort. The CIA Also has a very larger fleet of Aircraft why are they trying this in a vehicle registered to the CIA? Just leads me to believe these guys were Rogue or not CIA.

[–]moparornocar 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

thats really the only thing I could see making some truth in this. it being a few rogue CIA agents, not working for CIA but just running drugs themselves. and if that was the case, why would they have a receipt, not sure many drug dealers would want to give out receipts unless the CIA was forcing you to do so.

[–]TheRadBomber 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah just the fact there was literally no effort to hide CIA involvement and how easily they folded to some dopey milita guys is my main red flag. If it was CIA sanctioned the plan must have been to be caught as a distraction for a larger shipment or to get some people across the border otherwise none of it makes sense beyond going rogue.

[–]freedmason 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

They may have thought the Minutemen were allies in some way. Or that they would trust a government official (majority of these groups are ex-military).

[–]Loud_Volume[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Very good point, and perspective, thank you man.

[–]uppitydownity 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The fact alone that the CIA head had to publicly deny this

Where is this?

[–]Loud_Volume[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

In the article

“The CIA doesn’t take part in drug smuggling operations at the US-Mexican border”said M. Boyd. “I do not know, for now, if the men are actually affiliated to the agency in any way, but I can tell you the cocaine doesn’t belong to the CIA.”

I will attempt to find a press release or something related besides links to other websites reporting this story. Thanks for replying and thanks for the skepticism

[–]nisaaru 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The point wasn't that the CIA isn't involved in drug smuggling but this specific case. The CIA can use their own diplomatic flights and nobody would stop them or maintain some smuggling route without such issues.

If this story here is true I would assume these CIA agents just used their status for a side business.

[–]0rangePod 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

HSBC? Sure, there's credible evidence. The CIA does tons of shady shit, I have no doubt.

Website that has a current 'top article' about a 'Bigfoot Family'?

This is the kind of website that exists to make conspiracy theory seem less likely.

[–]Loud_Volume[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I respect trying to verify the authenticity of the website, as I had the same doubts.

But when you add these coincidences up one after another something doesn't sound right.

  • two "CIA" agents caught with 1300 pounds. 1300 pounds at the lowest of low ball estimates is 10 million dollars. That's serious power, and money.

  • the CIA head had to publicly deny their relation to the CIA. Thus proving that this took place.

  • the cocaine packages had a scorpion that can be traced to Sinaloa cartels

  • the Sinaloa cartel is the biggest Mexico cartel and was caught working with the US government https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/the-us-government-and-the-sinaloa-cartel-2014-1?client=safari

  • HSBC got caught laundering drug money for cartels.

Do you not see the links and dots connecting all this?

[–]0rangePod 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Occams razor: what's more likely? Cartel members with fake ID, or CIA agents that resorted to driving as opposed to other options for transporting narcotics?

Just because there are dots on a page doesn't mean they form the picture you're looking for.

I'ts just my opinion, but this seems like bullshit.

[–]Loud_Volume[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Even if it was cartels with fake ID, isn't it suspicious that the Sinaloa cartel was caught working with the US government?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/the-us-government-and-the-sinaloa-cartel-2014-1?client=safari

[–]johnyutah 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Let's look at another side. Trump wants a wall. Trump and CIA don't get along. "CIA" get caught crossing border with a shit ton of drugs from most dangerous cartel. Maybe it wasn't even cocaine. Maybe it was fake to make the CIA look bad and the wall a good idea. It could be a lot of things when dipping into conspiracies.

[–]BigAlBerry 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think if anything, the fellas, maybe ex CIA maybe not, maybe no training what so ever, were hired/working for the cartels to get drugs over the border. If I was caught at the border by minutemen, how seem to be unwavering in their commitment and patriotism, the logical arugement to get them to release you, would be to tell them your working for the government and on mission. So seems like to me these 2 guys got caught smuggling drugs, they started to lie to cover there ass, and to try to get released. Eventually the lies being told or the lies in the police report are what got published here, just instead of lies, the news report covered it all as real.

TLDR: Basically the incident happened, but the fact the 2 arrested were working for the CIA is highly unlikely and was originally mentioned as a attempt to get law enforcement to let them go.

[–]Loud_Volume[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

No one moves 10 million dollars worth of cocaine without some kind of oversight by a larger operation.

Not to mention the fact that the us was caught being buddy buddy with the Sinaloa cartel

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/the-us-government-and-the-sinaloa-cartel-2014-1?client=safari

The article says this cocaine was from the Sinaloa cartel.

See what I'm getting at?

[–]BigAlBerry 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yea i see what your saying. Everything does seem alil shadier then normal. Alot of coincidences thats for sure

[–]longshot 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not the plausibility of the overall thing, it's the specifics of this account.

No one in the intelligence field would tell someone more than they need to know. These minutemen don't even need to know these dudes' names.

[–]Scroon 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The obvious reason why they id'd themselves as CIA is because they had a group of armed, easily angered US citizens pointng guns at them. What other excuse can you think of that wouldn't get you shot in a similar situation?

[–]myotheralt 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sounds like season 5 of Archer.

[–]RazsterOxzine 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The CIA has better methods of running illegal ops. They have no need to go through the backdoor when they can easily go through the front door.

[–]pby1000 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The CIA is smart enough to keep the dirty work at arms length. They can easily leverage some street thug to do this. There is no doubt that the CIA is involved in drug smuggling and trafficking, but I doubt they would move it themselves under normal circumstances.

[–]MrJDouble 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's no secret that the agency has been busted running drugs, weapons, ect, so this wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if it happened or not. But they would usually use a government contractor to do this kind of dirt. If you are curious, look more into "Dyncorp" and you might be able to find some answers.

My other thought was this could also be a non-sanctioned mission and these two were caught trying to make some money off the books. Do you know how much a spy makes? Not a tremendous amount; these aren't the type of jobs you take to make a bunch of money.

[–]longshot 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, doesn't everyone in the CIA understand the principle of "need to know" extremely well?

[–]EricCarver 68 ポイント69 ポイント  (12子コメント)

So 2 minutemen stop 2 CIA drug runners, and they just blurt out their plans to these guys? Lol.

[–]Loud_Volume[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (11子コメント)

It was a group of Minutemen, and they didn't really blurt out there plan, they just provided ID that said they were CIA agents in an attempt to have the minute men let them go.

[–]BigAlBerry 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Isn't it a no no, to even tell people you work for the CIA?

[–]Ashleysdad123 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Better to blow your cover to a couple of patriots than get someone massacred by cartel for disappearing with cartel assets.

[–]DoYouBooBooDoYou 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

The cartel wouldn't dare kill two CIA agents over a shipment. Losing 10 million is a small price to pay to have the most powerful organization in the world on your team.

Plus killing Americans any American is bad for business now times that by infinite and that is how bad killing a CIA agent would be

[–]Ashleysdad123 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I don't think the Company is as loyal to its officers as you think it is. Disavowal is a real thing.

[–]DoYouBooBooDoYou 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

With the amount of 3 letter involvement in Mexico there should be numerous fatalities with those three letters. There isnt. Why? Because all cartels know killings Americans especially CIA, FBI, is bad for business. Also the Narco pulling the trigger would most likely have signed his own death certificate.

It's just the way things work down south

[–]PromStarJacqui 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Look what happened in the 80s when they killed a dea agent. Very bad for business.

[–]Ashleysdad123 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Didn't they kill a CBP agent with one of the Obama rifles? Whatever happened with that, if anything?

[–]libbylibertarian 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That would depend on the capacity in which you work for them.

[–]VirtualMoneyLover 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

they just provided ID

Because every agent carries his CIA ID when on a secret mission, just in case...

[–]fjortisar 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Showed "CIA ID cards".... yeah

If this really happened and these two actually showed that, then there's a pretty high chance it was fake and they were just doing that to scare anyone that asked questions.

[–]FuckingWeebsX 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (22子コメント)

The source you give isnt a source for this article.

The source given by the article goes to another generic conspiracy newssite filled with shit about aliens and other bullshit.

And you believe this?

[–]arbitrarysquid 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is the same site that has the breaking news that the Vatican is monitoring the heavens with their L.U.C.I.F.E.R. telescope "whilst secretely preparing for the arrival of their alien Masters"

and also that you can kill cancer with Vitamin C.

I'm going to need to see some other sources for the story.

[–]Lo0seR 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why yes Agent Smith, it most certainly is.

[–]Gmoney69er1 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hahaha, sounds like a plot from the TV show Archer.

[–]CharlesGalactica 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not sure of legitimacy of this but I'd like to point out that the "CIA plane" that crashed in 2012 was actually sold off by the CIA years earlier and virtual shows not much connection to them. Now I'm under the impression that the majority of the drugs in this country are trafficked by the CIA but evidence is only proof if its accurate.

[–]Loud_Volume[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for pointing this out.

If you can provide any additional information towards CIA involvement in drug running I'd appreciate it and I'll include it in the main post

[–]cant_sleepwoutu 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Only on /r/conspiracy would a post that turned out to be fake be left up, let alone without at least a decent retraction edited in. Its why I left this sub, and why I no longer give a fuck about this shit in general.

[–]JwPATX 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nah, happens on politics too.

[–]khast 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Difference is, politics tends to have a lot of aggressive attacks on certain politicians now. /r/politics seems to be nothing but shitposts and attacks and very few actual informative articles.

[–]EsotericRefuse 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (33子コメント)

This "story" is more than two years old, and it's BS. http://www.snopes.com/cia-crossing-border-cocaine/

[–]Spark_Plugg 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

well if SNOPES says so.....

[–]uppitydownity 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

hurr-durr snopes

It should be really easy to prove this story didn't come from a satirical site if Snopes are wrong. Can you do that?

Also, why would a satirical site publish a real story?

[–]EsotericRefuse 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It is wise to be critical of Snopes, but their article shows that the source site openly admits to being satire and fiction, so there's that...

[–]Spark_Plugg 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm with you, to be honest I didn't barely even read the article, I just hate snopes is all.

[–]Z0di 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

we should be critical of things before they get to snopes, snopes should act as a reference to checking the truth, no matter how they want to obfuscate it. They still tell the basic truth in their essays.

[–]littleblueanarchist 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

had it existed, snopes would have labled gary webb's reporting of the CIA-medaine partnership to launder money through cocaine to fund guns for the afghans in the 1990s. likely citing the WAPO articles that destroyed his reputation and career. WAPO's stated sources? unnamed high up officials at the CIA.

that movie with tom hanks, charlie wilson's war, is all about our clandestine CIA proxy war in afghanistan, painting him as a hero for submitting fictious budget requests to fund it (i.e. lying to and defrauding the american people, and embelizing from the US govt). the cocaine running began when his ability to get a way with that waned.

[–]Z0di 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

yeah let's make wild accusations about if something had been different.

I'll continue;

If trump had lost we'd all be stuck with ted cruz shitting into a midget's bed while high on jesus.

[–]Loud_Volume[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (25子コメント)

Are you really going to source snopes, a known fake knews verifier? Literally tasked with the responsibility to decide what is real or fake news. You trust that media outlet?

You trust it was just 2 random drug runners with 10 million dollars worth of cocaine in their suv?

[–]uppitydownity 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (11子コメント)

a known fake knews verifier

News? But yes, here they are verifying fake news as fake, that's what they do.

Why don't you try to counter the Snopes article? It should be pretty easy to prove it didn't come from WDNR if that's the truth.

[–]dsac 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (9子コメント)

hold up, you're going to claim that this guy's "debunking" source is full of shit because they are untrustworthy, but you put your full faith into the article you posted from a website that also posts articles titled "Toxic Truth About Baby Carrots & Why You Shouldn't Eat Them" and "Flu Shots Have More than 250x EPA Mercury Safe Limit" and "Satanic Symbols in Washington DC" and "Big study: Vaccinated Kids 2-5 More Diseases Than Unvaccinated"?

[–]diluted_confusion 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"A group of minutemen watching the Mexican Border for illegal migrants and drug traffickers, have proceeded to the citizen arrest of two men in an SUV,"

So they were crossing the border, but not via the roadways? It was never specified, although I'm assuming that. However, I've seen parts of the border in Texas, near El Paso and I just never realized that there are areas where an SUV can travel towards the border, in a vehicle kicking up dust, undetected by Border patrol from miles away and up to the border. Large amounts of information is being left out or its BS. I suspect the latter.

[–]EsotericRefuse 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I used Snopes in this particular instance, because they used the source site's own disclaimer. They didn't make any unilateral determination. As for the "coincidences" you posted, I'm not defending the CIA, Snopes, or anyone else, but those fail to corroborate this particular article.

[–]Z0di 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

are you really going to call snopes fake when you literally posted a satire website as truth?

[–]littleblueanarchist 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

gary webb,

vindication 20 years later.

RIP

(suicide with 2 bullets to his head after uncovering the CIA-medaine partnership to launder money through the sale of cocaine to purchase guns for afghans in the 1990s. the glut of coke on the US market was directly responsible for the crack epidemic. his reputation and career was ruined by vilification by WAPO).

[–]Loud_Volume[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thank you! I can't believe I forgot this amazing man.

Here's some links for anyone that's interested

http://www.narconews.com/darkalliance/drugs/start.htm

Webb was found dead in his Carmichael home on December 10, 2004 with two gunshot wounds to the head. His death was ruled suicide by the Sacramento County coroner's office.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Webb

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[–]Loud_Volume[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for the link, I'm going to add it to my main post.

[–]Bacore 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

No doubt the CIA drove coke across the border but showing their IDs? Nope. They would wait for release from jail later when their supervisor called the DA. Unless, of course these were rogue agents, utilizing their IDs to take advantage of some limited part time income producing opportunities.

[–]BasedPontiff 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

And the agents let them search the car? I don't think so.

[–]Bacore 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why would they drive it over the border when they have their own fleet of leased planes and pilot? I think a couple of guys were trying to make a little side cash.

[–]Horus_Krishna_5 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

CIA ID cards? cmon gonna need proof

[–]Loud_Volume[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Help me find more information. I'm looking as hard as I can but with as much attention as this post is getting I'm having a hard time keeping up. Help me out here

[–]Badgunno 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I highly doubt they would be carrying CIA issued ID on them for an operation like this.

[–]Horus_Krishna_5 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

right there there screams made up abnd trying to discredit conspiracy theorists

stupid like the official 9/11 story of passports falling out of the exploding planes

[–]Joeyoungcomedy 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

How is this on the front page? This is why it's hard to take /r/conspiracy seriously.

[–]Loud_Volume[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I edited my main post to hit on all these points brought up.

I hope to have diverted attention to CIA involvement in drug trafficking

[–]trollingtrollers 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

How does shit like this make it to the top and other, more credible articles don't? it's annoying as fuck.........

[–]Loud_Volume[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm hesitant to delete it and I will admit I didn't throughly research the sources in regards to the title I posted but I am glad to be able to raise awareness of CIA involvement in the drug trade.

Gary Webb is a good example and I edited my post accordingly.

If you have any changes or suggestions please let me know

[–]Laborigen 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

They have been managing and importing from Afghanistan, too. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/06/04/the-cia-continues-trafficking-drugs-from-afghanistan/

[–]Loud_Volume[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I have such mad respect for veterans today. Every article I've read from there is spot fucking on and well researched. Thanks for sharing man, I'm going to collaborate and compile all these sources and links and connect a bigger picture.

[–]Ne007 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You have to hold these guys and their supervisors accountable. Drain the fucking swamp. Shut the CIA down...Fuuuuck them.

[–]Hazzman 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If there is one thing the CIA does not do, its' get their hands dirty.

They almost always use a 3rd party.

[–]LightBringerFlex 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

CIA is at the top of the drug trade.

[–]illuminatiman 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

One of the best docs ive seen on the CIA getting caught is The Mena Connection - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epXVDEn3gsQ

[–]Loud_Volume[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you for the link! Excellent information. I added it to my original post, much thanks friend.

[–]catfishbilly_ 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is entirely plausible. The agents could have been caught and decided to throw their weight around to effect release.

"Listen up Jim-Bob, Jason and I here are with the CIA. You are fucking up a very important mission right now and I advise you to let us go and pretend this never happened."

[–]Snoozebum 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't care if it is satire!

The CIA is illegitimate! Russia! Russia! Russia!

Impeach the CIA!

[–]jimmybrad 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Was Preston garvey there?

[–]-o-o-o 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

If anyone cares to read some good CIA,9/11 & Drug running story's please check the articles on this website and its archives http://www.madcowprod.com/cocaine-one-archive/

http://www.madcowprod.com/

[–]Lonecrow66 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know its bullshit because they bring everything in by plane.

[–]toolymegapoopoo [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think this sub needs a new name. Is r/conspiracy_but_mostly_just_fake_news taken?

[–]Frikoffbubbles 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This should be front page news.

[–]sorenindespair [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

No because it's actual satire, so not front page news, unless you mean the onion.

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    [–]NutritionResearch 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    WNDR assumes however all responsibility for the satirical nature of its articles and for the fictional nature of their content.

    http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/disclaimer_/

    You probably already know it's satire.

    [–]Bacore 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    1300 pounds? This IS going to be a fun inauguration.

    [–]AFuckYou 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Can they really do this? Don't worry, we're CIA,we don't follow the law, only enforce it.

    Not to mention 1,300 pounds. They are fucking drug dealers. The fuck gov are the dealers.

    [–]Loud_Volume[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I added another link to my original post.

    In 2012 a CIA plane crash landed in Mexico and it had 4 tons of cocaine aboard

    http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/12/cia-plane-crash-lands-with-four-tons-of-coke-2-2512114.html

    [–]DoYouBooBooDoYou 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    100% the CIA is running drugs from Mexico but this story does seem a little odd. I just have a hard time believing the CIA was unable to pull rank in this situation. Regardless the intentions of the Minutemen they would have to know their lives were on the line. The CIA agents also would be able to make a few calls. Those calls would 99.9% allow the CIA Agents to walk away, no mention to press and a fat little cash bonus in the accounts of the minutemen....... that or dead.

    [–]Loud_Volume[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Help me find more information on it.

    I can't do this alone.

    It's obvious the CIA runs drugs and while we do need more verification on this story, it's hard to brush off the long list of coincidences linking the CIA to drug running

    [–]DoYouBooBooDoYou 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    More info on what exactly. There is plenty of info online regarding CIA and drug running.

    Let me know how I can help

    [–]soullessgeth 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    oh shit...the plot deepens...i highly suspect this is true. note the use of cia drug smuggling during iran contra

    [–]craigboyce 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Pretty sure if the CIA or other government agency wanted to import drugs they would just put them in some sort diplomatic bag(s)/ vehicle/plane and fly/drive it in.

    I'd also hope think they would have known about the minutemen and avoided them one way or another.

    [–]TheUltimateSalesman 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Why is the snopes article published in May of 2016 but yet they use the term 'fake news'? And the wayback machine has the URL excluded. http://www.snopes.com/cia-crossing-border-cocaine/

    [–]uppitydownity 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Please tell me you're not one of those people who believes "fake news" was a term invented for PizzaGate and never existed before.

    [–]skrimpstaxx 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    4 tons of cocaine in a plane that crashed in Mexico, as in, 8,000 lbs.... That's SO muxh, fuxk

    [–]hahayourface 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This is my theory.

    1: The receipt- simple one here. Its easy to make up a story about getting busted by the cops . If you hand the cops a receipt it's so unusual that the media is surely going to report on it. guaranteed.

    why worry about the media knowing about the receipt the cartel has nothing to hide that people don't already know. As for the C.I.A involvement in all this staying quite,they could care either way. Just reading a headline on a conspiracy site on the internet sounds so far-fetched that people make up there mind before even looking into the facts.

    1. C.I.A involvement?- They need to get funding from somewhere thats tax free and off grid for their little private wars they have going on. What better way to do that other than drugs? When they presented themselves as C.I.A agents it probably tied down any other minutemen and most defiently called in other forms of law enforcement.

    So nobody in this buisness transaction was nor is scared of being outed. They are both pretty much "above the law." This was a distraction. I'm betting something way more valuable made its way across the border while the people watching the border were busy giving chase.

    [–]Deathstreet 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Preston will be pleased

    [–]911bodysnatchers322 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Their real crime was they were going the wrong way. Bill Clinton's nose is this way <<points north>>

    [–]caucazoid 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Flush the CIA.

    [–]StroubleAnTrife 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Smart thing to do on their part tbh. Only allow unverified, satirized news to remain, editing/deleting others. Easily discontinues anyone stumbling onto it from gaining traction.

    Not saying it happened, or they did cover it. But, I mean, they an organization of that nature, they got the means to. And tbh if some lurker who cba to even read the articles or source it for themselves (me) can think of it as an idea, then the team to handle this sort of PR must have at least toyed with it.

    Whatcha say? :)

    [–]Loud_Volume[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    This is exactly what I wish to express unfortunately not many people can get pass the satire and think of this alternative possibility

    Not to mention all mainstream media sources are controlled as well as most information, it's easy to make that comparison to the CIA being able to wipe an credible sources of information from the web

    Thanks for bringing this up man as that is exactly how I felt towards it.

    [–]StroubleAnTrife 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    2017mood ! Much love OP, deliverer of ideas :)

    [–]setthetrap 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    That's some YELLOW FRUIT bullshit right there.

    [–]Z0di 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    more proof /r/conspiracy is just an outlet for extreme bullshit that doesn't fly in T_D

    [–]Loxe 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Huh...so what happened to that unverified tag that popped up the other week? Wouldn't this post qualify? Or is it only for things the mods are ideologically opposed to?