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[–]I-Report-Spam 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (52子コメント)

Ringleader: /u/deletedfor

He claimed innocence after deleting his comment history — he's been reported for spam several times over the last couple of days.

Another alt of his: /u/SelfTimedRides

Removed comment on /r/photoshopbattles

Archived history of deleted spam comments | Screenshot

He's already been banned from /r/pics, for reposting and lying about the content while promoting another failed sub of his (/r/CouldntFindaSub), at the very least he should be banned for spam, if not sock puppets and vote manipulation.

[–]DeletedFor 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (51子コメント)

Funny you posted this from an account created 6 minutes ago. We do NOT spam. I have 170k Karma and always post/comment a lot. I started to try and fit them into my comments when I was posting which they did. If I commented on a post and it was actually /r/me_atm then I wrote it. I never posted the same comment so was not spamming. Also /r/couldntfindasub did fail, but why's that matter? Also I have never manipulated any votes. Ever. I appreciate you all trying to rip he sub apart, but we have quite a few subs and people like the idea. I deleted my comments because I didn't want to be an annoyance to the other MODs. I in no way shape or form deleted them because I felt they were wrong. Each one was different and replied to a comment if it has to do with me_atm.

Sorry you all hate me, and I have since stopped as I don't want you all to hate me.

Also almost 50% of /r/pics is reposts. So now I'm a bad person because I had a repost? Users posts reposts all the time on their an some even post it on multiple subs at once! I'm not saying it's right, but I never "intentionally" repost anything.

We also have a new policy of no mentioning the sub at all. We are going to focus on subs that allow promotion.

Edit: I am assuming you all are also the one that brigaded our sub with comments, spam and harassment? All of which we had to delete. We didn't reply and we decided to take the higher road.

Edit 2: You say ringleader like we are some scum or bad people. We are humans and actually good people. We just have a sub we believe in.

[–]I-Report-Spam 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (25子コメント)

Yes, I created a new account to report spam because it's more efficient — one for mod work, one for porn, etc. I wasn't going for anonymity.

You're aware that admins can easily see your activity between accounts right? ;)

[–]DeletedFor 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (22子コメント)

Also can you tell me what types of plugs ARE ok? Cause I'm pretty sure I see wholesomememes being plugged all the time and multiple other subs. If people hated our sub so much, why did people sub? Anytime we plugged the sub, it fit the comment. We never just posted /r/me_atm and only that.

[–]sloth_on_meth[S] 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (17子コメント)

wholesomememes wasnt being spammed by the creators, my friend

[–]DeletedFor -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (16子コメント)

I'm sure they mentioned it once or twice which is fair! Hey are proud of it. We are proud of ours. Also me saying /r/me_atm is not spam if it fits my reply.

Listen I understand you all are mods of larger subs etc. we don't have the ability to sidebar our sub, because we don't know any. Lots of these subs are ran by the same mods. Which is fair, we are the new sub on the block. We don't have the luxury of doing hat though since we don't have any mods from other subs. We aren't doing the post with /r/me_atm for now unless it 100% fits. Not that it matters and you all hate us but I figured I'd tell you.

Sorry for getting all you worked up!

[–]capnjack78 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (15子コメント)

We aren't doing the post with /r/me_atm for now unless it 100% fits.

False. Your mods post it without any context. http://imgur.com/a/gbA9b

[–]TheGreatZarquon 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Cool, I made it to a screenshot.

I made the comment because it seemed to fit the post. Pretty sure that was the only time I ever posted it, too. But okay, I don't blame you for being upset, the sub creator was pretty overzealous about his posting. That said, the current/former mods (I've just recently found out that I'm a member of the latter group) talked him into taking it easy on the promotion.

[–]capnjack78 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

There's no reason to believe you guys after your top mod lied about it all over this thread and still keeps doing it.

[–]gnarlycommander 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree he lied about it, that's why people started disassociating themselves from him. One mod left and another was thinking of leaving before I left. Last night, I told him I would resign as mod if he kept doing it, and since he kept doing it...

[–]DeletedFor 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Ok well I wasn't aware of those. I will also bring it up to them. I was saying when I post. So sorry about that. You have spent quite a bit of time on this! I can appreciate your dedication and candor.

What is the goal with all this? I am a human, not a bot, I don't manipulate votes, and yes we posted our subs in comments (which I thought everyone was doing in terms of if it was actually them atm). What is your endgame here with all this? Are you trying to get me Perma-banned from Reddit and the sub shutdown for posting our sub?

[–]capnjack78 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Well, I'm not the person who posted about this, just trying to bring facts to light. You didn't acknowledge that this was a real issue until I showed you proof that the mods of the sub are doing it, which is a bit worrying. Spamming your sub around reddit is NOT the way to promote it, and an easy way to get other subreddits to hate you and try to ban you from the site. It creates more work for other moderators to have to see people reporting blatant spam like this, and dealing with those reports.

I suggest you guys get the team all on the same page before more mods come forward and demand your mods' and/or sub's removal. Reddit does not take lightly to spam and subs that tend to create problems for other mods.

[–]DeletedFor 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I totally agree. We had a meeting yesterday and I made it CLEAR that we don't want that anymore. We have switched to only promotional subs. It will NOT be happening anymore or the person will be removed. If it fits a post and it actually makes sense then OK. Obviously we don't want it non-stop any everywhere. As far as the person that left, me and him talked about it. Which is the main reason I made the announcement and relayed to all the subs. He wasn't able to attend the meeting, as if he had he would have known that. That's neither here nor there. We are making an effort here. I appreciate the feedback as well. Our goal is not for Redditos to love our sub and have other mods hate it. We want the users and also the people that run the site like the mods on Reddit to support us as well.

[–]I-Report-Spam 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Edit: I am assuming you all are also the one that brigaded our sub with comments, spam and harassment? All of which we had to delete. We didn't reply and we decided to take the higher road.

You have it backwards. What you perceive to be brigading is actually organic backlash at your spam — it's not coordinated, unlike your spam. It's quite a stretch to make yourself out to be a victim here.

I'm not an admin, but I know enough not to create a new account to drum up traffic for any reason.

For example, /u/SelfTimedRides was created in the last 24 hours for the sole purpose of plugging me_atm. Many of the accounts linked to your sub are new accounts whose only activity is talking about me_atm. I (and most observers for that matter) have trouble believing that these are enthusiastic supporters who discovered Reddit and your obscure sub within a day and do nothing but talk about it.

Usually, less than 5% of subscribers actually participate on a sub — people have a hard time believing that your subreddit has so many new accounts that are not only active users, but also actively singing praises about the sub at every opportunity when the subscriber count was at 300. Hell, I wrote a popular article that went viral and I only got one thank you note after thousands of shares and subscribers.

I see wholesomememes being plugged all the time and multiple other subs.

Most of those I've seen were in response to another comment, eg. User A says something uncharacteristically nice and User B says /r/wholesomememes is leaking. It's not unreasonable to think that it happens organically — like how saying circlejerk is leaking was a meme for some time — considering that they have 300,000 subscribers.

Every one of the comments that promote me_atm shoehorn the subreddit name into the topic in a low effort manner — using one of your comments as an example, there's a beard in an image and your comment was "the beard is /r/me_atm". You (and other alleged sock puppet accounts) scatter these low effort comments in every other sub with no attempt to comment or participate as part of the community.

Since you lied through your teeth that the reposted porn shoot apartment pic is your own, I find it hard to believe that you don't know you're spamming or manipulating votes. However, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and link you to Reddit's official rules on self-promotion, which state that as a rule, less than 10% of your content should be linked to yourself (I think that ship has sailed for you). 100% of the comments and posts in these accounts over the past 48 hours have been about me_atm, if I'm being honest, 600 subscribers after such aggressive spamming is a poor result.

[–]DeletedFor 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Lies through my teeth? Why do you have to be so condescending? Never manipulated votes. EVER. Never voted our own stuff or anything like that as it is a clear violation of Reddit Rules. I did not look at it like spamming if it fit what I was saying. If I have that beard, why can't I say it's /r/me_atm? If it actually is! Also if you look at my posts and comment I highly doubt 10% is linked to me. Also for someone who I can tell is intelligent, finishing your post with the "poor result" is just childish and not warranted.

I don't own any businesses, I wasn't promoting them and I am not some BOT spammer. Neither is our sub. I'm sorry you hate us and the sub, and our goal was not to make anyone mad. I apologized and we have since changed. I can't do much more. I guess at this point the Admins will hopefully see we never manipulated any votes and in all my 170 Karma I never upvoted my own material.

Have a good day and sorry this has been such a bother.

[–]I-Report-Spam 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Lies through my teeth?

You did insist that the apartment is yours when it's a repost — and it was proven to be self-promo for (by your own admission) another failed attempt at making a viral sub.

Also if you look at my posts and comment I highly doubt 10% is linked to me.

See original screenshot about deleting comments and claiming you didn't break the rules. 100% of your comments outside of me_atm is about me_atm!

I in no way shape or form deleted them because I felt they were wrong.

You expressed unhappiness that I said you lied through your teeth, and you just said that you didn't delete them because you felt it was wrong, then proceeded to point to your edited history as proof of innocence. Are you for real, is your spam supposed to be some meta art performance 😂😂😂

[–]capnjack78 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It gets better. This user seems incapable of being forthcoming and honest.

https://www.reddit.com/r/spam/comments/5obckd/rme_atm_spam/dci2om6/

[–]DeletedFor 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ok. I'm just saying.

Also yes I am aware. I have never manipulated any votes. That is for sure and never would. Are you an Admin? Are you saying you are banning me ?

[–]i-see-spam 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, I created a new account to report spam because it's more efficient

I like the idea! ♥

[–]capnjack78 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (12子コメント)

[–]Player72 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (11子コメント)

I did do these. Yup. 2 days ago.

I also deleted a few more that said /r/me_atm.

I admit all of them.

I did not do any more promotion today however.

[–]capnjack78 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Player72: "I had to tell him a bunch of times that I didn't approve of the promotions, but oh well."

You lied about it being some other mod doing the spamming, and now come clean since you were caught.

[–]Player72 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Ask the admins. I admit I promoted /r/me_atm around 5-6 times.

Though after those 5-6 times, I went through deletedfor and noticed he promoted a shitload. I messaged him saying i believed it was too far. I didn't promote any myself afterwards.

I've tried to be as transparent as possible. would you like me to post the messages I have had with deletedfor>?

[–]capnjack78 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Ask the admins.

Why the fuck would I ask them when I'm the one who caught you in a lie? And you keep changing your story, being so bold as to blame everything on Deletedfor.

I've tried to be as transparent as possible.

Then stop being a fucking liar, or just don't comment at all here.

"Maybe once or twice": https://www.reddit.com/r/spam/comments/5obckd/rme_atm_spam/dciglv6/

"3-4 maybe": https://www.reddit.com/r/spam/comments/5obckd/rme_atm_spam/dcihho3/

"5-6 times": https://www.reddit.com/r/spam/comments/5obckd/rme_atm_spam/dciqs9x/

You guys are suspicious as fuck. You immediately deny everything, and then as you're proven liars, the truth unravels with every comment.

[–]Player72 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Once or twice -> the visible ones. Afterwards, there was more that were deleted.

I was not on board with this as soon as I realized he was ultra spamming every where.

I have the full messages. do you want them?

[–]capnjack78 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I have the full messages. do you want them?

What difference would that make?

[–]tizorres 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (11子コメント)

tbh I think some people are being overzealous. As someone who's started a few subs and grew them to thousands of subscribers, I know the issues and difficulties it can be.

Bottom line is, the way you are promoting your sub is in a spammy way even if you don't necessarily mean to.

If you want to plug your sub in a thread fine but make sure it's relevant and not forced. Try promoting on the multiple "new subs" subreddits. Ask the mods of relevant subs about cross promotion either by asking to make a thread on their sub or swapping sidebar mentions. Most mods will get upset if you go about promoting your sub without intent to engage with the community there.

You should first focus on maintaining content and having your subscribers contribute, if there's content normally more users will come.

Here are a few guides for growing new subs that I think you should read:

[–]capnjack78 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (10子コメント)

They know they are being dishonest. That's why several alternate accounts were created for the sole purpose of promoting the sub. They were called out on it in this very sub 2 days ago, and continued doing it yesterday. Hopefully they know better now that this shit won't be tolerated, but I think that they earned the backlash here, especially for continuing to make excuses about it.

[–]tizorres 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (9子コメント)

eh the reddit admin creators did the same thing when the site was first made

[–]capnjack78 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I'm not sure what you're referring to. Doesn't seem relevant if an admin did something that users are forbidden to do.

[–]tizorres 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (7子コメント)

tbh I didn't really read much of the context about what they did. But if they r/me_atm sub mods really did make several accounts just to promote the sub then yeah that's pretty scum'ish thing to do.

[–]capnjack78 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Yeah, and the first reaction was to deny everything and then finally, after several comments, owning up to some wrongdoing. I'm not sure they deserve any benefit of the doubt after this.

[–]DeletedFor 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Fess up? I never said we did any wrong-doing. I said for people to stop and just delete them because regardless of it was was you atm, it would get ripped apart. Wasnt admitting to doing anything wrong because truly didn't. All I did was say that we decided to stop it all together even if it did make sense as a reply and WAS YOU /r/me_atm . When I posted I tried to only do it in comments that were actually me_atm.

[–]capnjack78 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I never said we did any wrong-doing.

Wasnt admitting to doing anything wrong because truly didn't.

This is why you keep getting shit, to be honest. You've been told for days by multiple people that you were breaking Reddit TOS, and you're still denying it. You reap what you sow, buddy.

[–]appropriate-username 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Latest update: deletedfor and anyone else who was a mod there has been unmodded and now only IncorporatedYes is a mod. I dunno whether incorporated was spamming or not.


Latest breaking news! According to a source that wishes to remain anonymous, incorporatedyes has an IRL relationship with deletedfor (I won't reveal the type because I don't want to encourage doxxing). deletedfor apparently logged in to the incorporatedyes account himself because deletedfor has a 24 hr reddit ban. Please note that like a true modern investigative journalist, I haven't checked anything about literally any of this before reporting it.

Also, incorporated's real account owner is apparently pissed because of the promoting and the use of their account.

[–]capnjack78 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh look, now they're adding some 1-hour-old alt account to the mod team. I'm getting more popcorn.

[–]capnjack78 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Also, incorporated is apparently pissed because of the promoting and the use of their account.

Too fucking late for him to get interested in it now. People have been reporting it for days, and the other mods are in here lying and making up all kinds of shit.

[–]lets_get_hyyerr 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Woah woah woah. I literally just got here. I just became a mod.

So a TLDR on all of this is the original sub creator spammed the shit out of the subreddit?

[–]capnjack78 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Looks like almost half your mod team, plus several alt accounts were involved in the spamming. This is day 3 of this issue being reported to /r/spam.

[–]lets_get_hyyerr 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Did the admins remove him? I saw he wasn't a mod anymore. I wish he didn't do this but I think it's important to note it's got all new mods and in good hands now

[–]Player72 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Former mod here. He removed himself and kept his wife's account which is Incorporated. So he can get around the 24hour ban. His wife's pissed that he was using her account lol

[–]lets_get_hyyerr 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I would be too! Hahaha

[–]Player72 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't recommend you continue modding that sub.

[–]DeletedFor 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (10子コメント)

You are misunderstanding and this is just getting to be too much back and forth. I'm sorry you hate us, me and our sub.

I deleted them BECAUSE I didn't want to draw attention. Even if they were correct and made sense based on the reply. We would rather not draw attention and make you all mad.

Clearly no matter what I say you are going to rip me to shreds. Have a good day, and sorry if we offended, bothered, or made you mad.

[–]hero0fwar 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Or just stop spamming your sub

[–]supermegaultrajeremy 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (7子コメント)

[–]sloth_on_meth[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Jesus FUCKING christ...

[–]gnarlycommander 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Truly unfortunate.

I thought the sub had potential and tried to help him get his subreddit in order, but it just seems like that's who he is. Other members of the modteam and I were trying to get him to cool it last night, and it seemed for a while like he got the message.

I think he's just getting carried away with promoting his sub (and a karmawhore - but that's not really a bad thing), but the reputation of r/me_atm is probably beyond saving at this point unless it comes under new management.

Great concept, flawed execution.

[–]Player72 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Exactly this. I had to tell him a bunch of times that I didn't approve of the promotions, but oh well.

[–]capnjack78 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Exactly this. I had to tell him a bunch of times that I didn't approve of the promotions, but oh well.

Oh really, /u/Player72? Why were you doing it then?

[–]Player72 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I did it before I told him a bunch of times.

[–]capnjack78 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I thought the sub had potential

It's just a karma farm.

[–]gnarlycommander -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you read the sidebar/welcome message (which I wrote), you'll see it's more than that. But it really doesn't matter at this point, it'll probably just be known as "that shitty sub that was being spammed in every thread".

[–]Player72 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Am mod of /r/me_atm, though I promoted it maybe once or twice. Look through my post history.

[–]sloth_on_meth[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The admins can see posts you've deleted, you know that right? Just be up front and honest..

[–]Player72 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

edit: I am well aware that admins know which posts are deleted. I am being up front and honest.

I have deleted a few comments which just said "/r/me_atm" that were 0 points or -1 points.

3-4 maybe.

Those were from 2-3 days ago. Aside from that, I have refrained from promoting any more.

Does this sound honest or upfront? You can ask the admins.

[–]IncorporatedYes -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well this got out of hand quick.

Sorry I don't know all you and just read this shit show.

For the record /u/Gnarlycommander and /u/Player72 told Deletedfor multiple times (if not hundreds) not to spam and he continued to do it. Also if they posted stuff it was merely small amounts that anyone would do if they had a new Sub. They warned him over and over and they couldn't stop him which is clearly why they left as mods. Deletedfor deserves the pitchforks, but those guys don't.

Deletedfor stepped down and we have a new MOD team that will oversee the sub. All new mods come with experience and will be focused on organic growth per Reddits Guidelines. Not spam.

Deletedfor is sorry to the mods, and I think he knows he messed up.

Any questions feel free to PM me.