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The Redpill's Delusional Thinking (self.MGTOW)

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The red pill sub has a lot of good content but there is one area where the red pill goes "full hamster".

The concept of being "Alpha" as a solution to female nature.

The idea that if you become x (alpha) then y (female) has to react in such a way and if it doesnt then you were never truly x. The solution? Just become more x, obviously.

The reality is that "alpha" and TRP men have a certain illusion of control. The same way betas do but in reverse. Betas believed being nice would make her do what they want; TRP alphas think being "alpha" will make her do what they want. Different side of the same coin.

TRP isnt bad and may help you get laid; but its a joke if you think all you need to do is be alpha enough and youre magically immune to family courts, false accusations and female irrationality.

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[–]Hiromant 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed. There's good information on there but many TRPers come across as desperate tryhards, posturing and trying to prove their alphaness. It may work on some sluts with daddy issues but will repel quality people.

Strong men aren't pushy assholes. They know their worth, don't have to prove it, and can afford to be genuine.

[–]CodeLimosis 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, I would like to see if that "alpha" and "holding frame" nonsense works if you're a 5'0, 3/10 with no resources. Being "alpha" and "holding frame" can only do so much in the face of female hypergamy.

[–]justareflektorr 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

"alpha" is a construct of looks, looks is all that matters, if you`re good looking you get confidence early in life, no one judges you, halo effect, cant do no wrong, abundance mentality since chicks throw themselves at you etc.

[–]us3rname13 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's not their main delusion. Their delusion is that it's at all alpha to invest so much in women. The Red Pill discourages investing wholly in one woman, but then invests a little in all women as a solution. Unsurprisingly, a lot of the guys on there cannot overcome this issue and become, at best, betas who are very good at acting like alphas.

[–]Paladin2903 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pretty much. A lot of the guys are just young and naive. If you're just trying to get laid, or a girl just wants you for sex, then looks are the ONLY thing that matter, and for their stage in life (17-23), this may be true.

I think this is why a lot of the younger and more naive guys in there buy into the whole, "All I need to do is lift, become more alpha, and I'll never have another problem with women again." WRONG!!! Society is setup for you to fail, man.

When women are younger, they are more aligned with how we view women in the courting aspect -- looks, personality, humor, chemistry, etc.

However, as these girls get out of college, and into the real world, most of them realize they hate working, don't want to, were sold a false bill of good by feminists, and want to raise a stay-at-home family.

As a result, the things that start to move to the forefront of a woman's importance list are: wealth, resources, credit score, available assets, life insurance policies, status, etc., etc.

They become business-like in what they look for in men. The closer they get to the wall, the more intense it gets.

Rest assured, many of the guys in that forum still want to get married, regardless of what they say. They're doing the whole "alpha" thing to attract a potential wife.

So, if you're a good-looking jacked guy who just got laid off or is down on his luck in life -- with no business pluses to offer -- you aren't going to get much, and they're going to leave you for the businessman who has a ton of money, but that they aren't really all that attracted to, in terms of looks, personality, etc.

I appreciate much of TRP. However, as soon as they start talking about "alpha" this and "alpha" that, I tune out.