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[–]sir_wankalot_here 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You are falling into the SJW trap which relies heavily on shaming. Probably that post was planted by SJW/Feminazis and then voted up. If you read through some of the comments ....

Example this one, 450+ upvotes.

I gotta admit. Its actually how I found reddit. I had broken up with my girlfriend and I was googling all different things to try to help myself get over her. Theredpill actually made some sense of the way I was treated. It generalised woman's behaviors and made my grlirlfriejds behaviors seem understandable with a bunch of pseudo science like you said. But it also preached bettering yourself as a man. Obviously after I was done grieving my relationship a whole bunch of the things on there just seemed extremely sexist and like it was full of pissed off dudes who couldn't get laid. But I still think there is some decent content on self improvement, and just ways to understand the dynamics between men and women. You just have to wade through a bunch of misogynistic bullshit.

That guy is probably purple pill. A couple of weeks ago, I went to a party, older married couples where there, husbands where all saying how great their wives where. After dinner the men and women seperated into two groups. A couple of the men started complaining about how they got divorced raped before etc. For men who are 60+, divorce rape was just part of life, it was always the man's fault.

Rule #1 of fight club is don't talk about fight club.

Feminists and SJW have a club, MGTOW/TRP is a set of ideas which vary greatly even in this reddit. For example, Roosh and I differ on a lot of things.

Revealing stat is this one:

184,000 subscriber 1,169 views

compare this with the Feminism subreddit

68,000 subscriber 34 views

Someone on MGTOW did the same analysis, both reddits have an extremely high amount of lurkers. The thing is to talk about things overtly.

The bashing of TRP by feminists and SJW is understandable but they regularly bash MGTOW. This shows that the mainstream is scared.

Myself, I don't see women improving a man's quality of life in any shape or form. Women try and latch onto men and suck the life out of them if you let them.

[–]FractalFactorial 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well that's precisely the thing. Because so much of a woman's sense of attraction is based on a man's success, status, etc, they're things that are necessarily compromised in the process of developing a relationship. Women don't love unconditionally or at least not as commonly in the way men do.

[–]Tman5691 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Men love women, women love children, children love pets, pets love everyone.

In short, if you want unconditional love, get a dog.

[–]Venny_1 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (1子コメント)

They think its macho to disregard women but then spend all their time devising ways to sleep with them. It's a full blown paradox.

This poor fucking soul doesn't realize that she is the one living in a world of paradox. Meanwhile, it is TRP that has been deciphering this paradox in empirical fashion to make use of it:

-Treat a woman with tenderness and affection, and she will drop you like last fashion's shoes.

-Treat her like a dog and she will come crawling back so you can scratch her behind the ear.

Has TRP created this dynamic in women? No, it was there all along; we just got good at reading between the lines and realizing how they function.

They're only mad because we can use this knowledge to advance our gains with them, while giving them none of the benefits they desire.

[–]sir_wankalot_here 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're only mad because we can use this knowledge to advance our gains with them, while giving them none of the benefits they desire.

The joke over at MGTOW is the final state of TRP is MGTOW. Fun to do with women. They will say something like, you need a woman in your life. I then ask the woman straight out, how can you improve my life?

After ten minutes of hamstering, about they pretty much admit all they can do is supply sex. Along the way, they might throw out things like you hate it when a woman has their own opinion. I usually reply, no I hate it when people are too stupid to be able to defend their opinion.

TRP reduces sex to a biological craving, similar to the desire to eat food, the need to urinate when bladder is full, the need to take a shit etc.

Society doesn't place any pressure on women to develop any skills including mental ones. This reduces women who are worthwhile talking to about 2% of the population. I have met lady lawyers, doctors, scientists etc who knew thier shit but they are far and few.

[–]empatheticapathetic 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I've got a story I wrote in a previous thread a few months before the election about blue pill friends and TRP. I'll paste it here:

I went to Berlin last month with my new friend I was having a short intense bromance with. We went for 4 days or so. On our second night there we ended up in a cool hip bar somewhere where drug dealers were openly selling to patrons.

We ended up talking to a group of 3 girls at 2am or so. Two from Berlin, one from London (I'm also from the uk). The girl I was talking to was a student from Berlin and seemed not that up for chatting to me, but I didn't really care and managed to start a conversation with her. I asked her what she studied at uni, she didn't want to tell me. I said ok and talked about other stuff.

10 mins later I asked again due to a relevant topic and she said she was studying a masters in the treatment of queer people in Berlin. I said "ok great" and we talked about that for a couple mins. I then said "what do you think the popularity of trump in America means for the treatment of queer people there". First off, I'm not white and I look like and am a Fucking liberal. I expected her to say "oh not good" and be the end of it.

What actually happened was she started screaming at me completely outraged, for about 5 mins. Her London friend also started to try and tell me off. They were screaming at me for even daring to mention trump at all. It was absolutely insane but I held frame because I've been in many situations like this in my life, this was nothing.

My BP friend was hysterically apologising on my behalf and trying to get us to leave. I said "this has nothing to do with you". I didn't apologise because I asked a question, but I did stupidly try to explain that all i did was ask a question. After another 5 mins the third friend stood up and told the other two "what are you doing. He asked a completely normal question" and then the argument was over, and the initial girl answered my question.

I then left at the behest of my friend who proceeded to tell me off and call me a misogynist on the way back to our living space. I never got angry with him but said "it sucks you think that way bro". Since we got back he has spread rumours to our mutual friendship group that I am a raging woman hater who causes arguments in bars and reads online forums (he saw the redpill bookmark on my phone). I've since cut him off after being more than a great friend to him.

[–]landon042 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

crazy how brainwashed he is

[–]FractalFactorial 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its sad that people feel needs to ideologically divide themselves anyways. This idiotic tribalism is just social posturing to dig up brownie points and give people meaning.

Idgaf if I have liberal friends, conservative friends, gay friends, religious friends, feminists friends, etc. Sure, I have my informed opinions, but people aren't just their opinions: if they have enjoyable personalities then I will enjoy their company regardless of their politics.

[–]tenix 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is what America and "western" countries are turning into.

[–]1------6EQUJ5-11--1- 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Reading some of those comments in the actual post, "you just don't fucking [banging head on wall] get it!!!!".

[–]DavoAmazo 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

When I try and help out my friends by showing them TRP I feel the same.

[–]1------6EQUJ5-11--1- 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The urge to help is often high, but I'm glad I found it myself.

[–]sir_wankalot_here 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They SJW always projects, stole this from Vox Day. So when the mangina accuses you of being unable to get laid, most likely he is projecting. As the book The Manipulated Man states, the greatest scam is there is a mystery about women. There is no mystery. Once you see that the magic is gone.

In a primitive society, if a man is 3 feet tall, looks like a troll but extremely good at smashing other guys knees with a baseball bat, all women will want to have sex with him. The moment he ceases to be he best at smashing other guys kneecaps they lose interest in him.

Subsitute smashing kneecaps with big muscles, being an asshole etc that's all you need to know about picking up women. If a woman is married to a guy who doesn't have these characteristics, she is either screwing around or thinking about it.

What is scary, you find a woman who looks like butter wouldn't melt in her mouth. She is a sunday school teacher, she has a husband busting his ass. If she thinks she can screw around without getting caught, she will.

Edit - the troll who smashes other guys knees with a baseball bat, he isn't a psychopath, he is so sweet, he is just misunderstood.He only becomes a psychopath after he ceases being the best 😂

[–]Jakei34 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some bafoon went on there and commented about the people being bluepilled dumbasses. He was downvoted to the depths of hell. Out of curiosity, I clicked his profile.

His account was deleted. Lmao.

[–]michael_wilkins 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Peniswarmer

That is my new favourite term for a Chick.

[–]0xdada 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

with ~185k subscribers, maintaining quality is going to be the biggest challenge.

It's interesting to read the quality of the criticisms of TRP. I haven't read a good one yet. Would even issue a challenge to the most serious intellectuals out there to do their worst. Mistake critics make is they never get past the shame tactics.

What do you tell a man who has been lied to his entire life, by the people he has cared for most, about the motivations for the way he was treated?

Western society has decided to give women the roles of men, with few (if any) of the same responsibilities, in exchange for their political support for a system designed to subjugate western men. It goes about as well as you can expect from there.

On an individual level, men are realizing that they are not obligated to the wants and desires of women, and that the quality of our being does not depend on the relative happiness of women.

If women are no longer our dependents, then we are no longer responsible for them, or their feelings.

Swallowing the red pill is like finding out you have been paying crippling interest on a debt you never actually had, and learning that the people closest to you were getting kickbacks on your payments. It's like you've been playing poker for years, but didn't believe there was a sucker at the table because that would mean it was you and that's just not possible, right?

When families stuck together, there were men who would set their sons heads straight after all the shit their mothers put into it to keep them manageable and available as narcissistic enablers. Now that those men have been chased off by divorce incentives, or simply brainwashed by a public education system run by and for women, yes, some guys are realizing that being a man hasn't changed, but the tools for doing it well have been hidden or restricted.

[–]ReallyHard_Wood 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The gender roles that allowed the human species to reach our current level of development are broken.

I like your debt metaphor. I think it explains well the immense amount of distrust RedPill aware men feel for women and BluePill thinking.

Our new reality as men is the female imperative run amok. Not so much calculated and direct as TRP, but more of a 'feelz before reelz' thinking.

It's along the lines of psychological warfare on an entire gender with men being the scapegoats for the world's problems.

[–]Endorsed ContributorNeoreactionSafe 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

 

  • Don't watch television.

  • Don't read subs other than those in the Manosphere.

 

The more distance you create the better.

I think of it as a full "delete".

When you "Kill the Beta" you delete all the Blue Pill input streams.

 

[–]atraw 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well looks like koran teaching method in some cave in Afghanistan.

[–]Orig_analUse_rname 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's a big part of the problem in this sub. Stop trying to be them. Kill the beta.

[–]questionac 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

TRP are the Vanguards and authors, not the newcomers who make up the vast majority of members and viewers. None of those people can compare to them and their success in getting high value quality women, not the ugly ones that frequent those places, a difference they likely intentionally overlook.

That's like saying a gym and their instructors suck because fat people are joining, aiming to lose weight. And that's coming from more obese people that don't do and are not willing to do anything to lose weight. Who cares about what these people think.

I don't talk about it because there's no need, if someone asks for my opinion about something I will give it, that's it. Not because I give a shit about some posters and their cheerleaders.

[–]ecosci 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is not some privilaged cult but if you meet a guy who is suffering build a friendship and then introduce him but not some random guy off the streets, wouldnt you want someone to teach you how to fight if your willing to learn.

[–]Marcus1138 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The trick is in how you introduce it. Yes, you can show someone TRP if you know they're ready for it. But there will be reservations, and they may be looking for reasons to discredit TRP and even you.

And if they look, they will find evidence on here that does show angry bitter men who just want to treat women like trash and get pussy because they deserve it for no reason. Not everyone who posts on TRP is really Red-Pilled, many are still in the anger phase, many are a bit fucked up, and many are venting. If someone new to the sub looks for those posts, they will confirm that TRP is shit and so are you.

So you have to tell them how to use TRP. It's a tool that requires training, a buffet that requires judgement.

Everyone on TRP is offering different pieces of advice for different people. They need to understand that above all - not everything is written for them. Start with some of the fundamentals in the sidebar. Understand that TRP is a lens from which we see the nature of relationships, and the posts on here are an extension to that as we discussion sexual strategy, work, self-improvement, and theories. Not all of it's going to work for everyone, but with the foundation of understanding from the sidebar and some pickiness in what posts to read you can get a lot of value from the subreddit while avoiding any toxic mindsets from people who don't yet fully understand TRP.

[–]ReallyHard_Wood 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I can sympathize with some of the posts on TBP. They pick the worst, most misogynistic posts from TRP to eviscerate and rightly so.

The mainstream, feminist, SJW warriors don't understand our ideology nor can their confirmation bias compute on the same wave length. They're so engrossed in neo-feminism they literally can't even conceive the most basic gender differences like physical strength, the most apparent one.

But if you're posting in this sub comparing females to dogs or chimps and talking about how to exploit their weaknesses, you are a misogynistic prick and deserve to be outed as such.

The toxic posts here clearly outshine the positive ones and the mods as well as some endorsed contributors allow it.

[–]0xdada -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (3子コメント)

People are like dogs, chimps, or other animals. The way we relate is fundamentally as animals not as political parties, so yeah, when women behave predictably, it isn't much more complicated than training a dog.

Main difference is that a dog actually loves you, even if it's just a dog.

[–]ReallyHard_Wood 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

In regards to our animalistic nature, yes we are like any other animal, but we possess the innate ability of abstract thought, logic and reason.

I want TRP to appeal to the mass of men who crave something greater in life than just satisfying their 'animalistic nature.'

So to say that women act like dogs thus should be trained like dogs is contradictory to TRP logic.

Some men come here with the idea that they're superior to women and because of this they have the right to exploit them.

Does this mean that men are dogs too? And if so how does that make us any better than the women we so bitterly try to conquer?

[–]0xdada 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

colors showing. ;)

Men are a lot like dogs, and if you have ever trained dogs (or men) you would know this. Women don't need conquering. That's mistaking the spoils for the prize. Men need to conquer ourselves.

You can train women like dogs, just as you can train men like dogs, it's just a question of the quality of the training.

[–]ReallyHard_Wood 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They trained me like a dog when I was in Marine Corps basic training. Did it make me a better man? Yes.

So I understand what you mean when you say 'the quality' of the training. I would reword that to 'the intent' of the training. In the context of my military training, it was to make me a stronger man and a better leader.

The problem arises when we as men think our superiority gives us the right to train women to be better bitches and not better partners.

Men are meant to lead. Women are meant to follow. Don't get that twisted. We, as men, are here to live a life of purpose, to build strong, lasting relationships and to become the best possible versions of our selves.

Nowhere in that ethos does it say 'lie, manipulate and domineer' over women. Women should be a compliment to every man, not a commodity to be collected then thrown away after they're broken.

But I think I understand the gist of what you're saying.

[–]ImSecretlyATurtle 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What these people have to say about TRP is completely irrelevant. The goal of this subreddit is to help you understand that what they say/think doesn't matter. What matters is what you think and do.

I am proof that TRP works. I sleep with 3-4 girls a week. Granted this is fairly easy due to being a college student, but the methods I use to interact with these women are purely TRP style. If it didn't work, i wouldn't be getting laid so often.

Women do not know what they want. They may say they want a nice guy, but they're not sexually attracted to them. They're attracted to assholes. They lie to themselves by saying you're a nice guy, even though it's obvious that the contrary is true.

Ignore them and continue what you're doing. Results speak louder than words.

[–]Praecipuus 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like this one.

It started causing arguments so I started reading it thinking it could be a good perspective and maybe there was something I could learn. Boy was I wrong. It sent me spiralling. I cut myself for the first time in ten years. I felt compleatly worthless and expired. It's scary being told by internet men that you're essentially a purse. An accessory if you will.

"TRP made me feel bad so it can not be based on facts."

lol

[–]TermsOfColors 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Gd what is all this thread cross posting bullshit. Who gives a shit about some random posting in some bullshit websites.

[–]marianasentmenudes 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol. "Pseudoscientific" yet it helps us in the end. Bunch of fat fucking lards who will perpetuate AF/BB

[–]vimsyah 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most of the people I know are not going to look at what TRP presents with rationality. Instead they get emotional about it.

[–]el-campeon 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's hilarious how little competition there is. So many people do their very best to lose, and then convince themselves that they're actually winning. These people are extremely proud of being losers!

[–]frooschnate 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Did you just quote Fight Club? I just knew it. This sub is probably just counter-culture teenage boys.

[–]Hillarysdilddo_2016 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It started causing arguments so I started reading it thinking it could be a good perspective and maybe there was something I could learn. Boy was I wrong. It sent me spiralling. I cut myself for the first time in ten years.

Has major psychological problems.

Thinks TRP is abnormal.

LOL.

[–]langmesser 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Gleaned from the source material that gave TRP its name:

"You have to understand. Most people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."

There are plenty of stories around here of men who thought they were trying to help their family members or their lifelong friends after seeing them get fucked over by some whore, only to get outed or thrown away like garbage, all because that "friend" or "brother" decided that his conditioning made him better than the vile redpiller. Blue pill runs deep. To work, it has to -- how else could it convince men that they should ignore their lives experiences in favor of feminist dogma?

It's not sidebar material, but it is common sense. For many men here who don't want to see their fellow man get screwed by the third wave and the legal system, this is a lesson that has to be learned the hard way.

[–]Luce_Bree 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This was an entertaining read.

I won't take the step of shaming those that disparage what this sub has to offer, but it is pretty funny that they, presumably of the "compassionate" and "tolerant" Leftist ilk, can't seem to put themselves in the shoes of others. I can't blame them, because until recently I didn't know there was another way to view life either.

I have to agree, however, that there are far too many posts here that are guys in college talking about all the pussy they can suddenly get. I know it's exciting, you never thought that life could be this way, you never knew there was another way to think and live either. But there are more important things in life than getting pussy, and I wouldn't blame anyone for coming here and thinking it was just some PUA-reject bin.

[–]VermillionManMarch 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The problem with never talking about TRP is, our public image by default is then defined exclusively by our very vocal enemies. I call this "Iterated don't talk about Fight Club," and invite men who find themselves wanting to put a more public face to TRP and do it right to follow me on the subreddit VermillionManMarch. Men who are interested in a private Manosphere group can check out r - The_Fraternity.

[–]FractalFactorial 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Eh. Doesn't ultimately matter. Although it would be nice if prospective people that could benefit from it weren't turned away, I think that anyone that is going to be receptive to the ideas will be willing to read enough of the sidebar and threads to realize how much of it is true.