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Titanfall 2 - Welcome to Live Fire (titanfall.com)

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[–]BlueEclipse 122 ポイント123 ポイント  (45子コメント)

Allowing people to matchmake for multiple modes instead of just the Mixtape playlist should hopefully get people playing some of the dead modes like Pilot vs Pilot and Capture The Flag, so this is a welcome change.

Live Fire sounds rather underwhelming, though. I know some people like these Counterstrike-esque round-based modes, but that frankly sounds a bit dull. We already have Last Titan Standing as a round-based mode, and that manages to be more exciting because of the scale of the combat and the fact that you can still fight as a Pilot if you haven't died.

[–]OkayAtBowling 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I was really excited to play Capture the Flag mode because that's always been my favorite in multiplayer FPS, but most of the time when I check there are literally 0 people in that playlist.

[–]XenoCorp 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I hate playing it in TF2, who wants to stand and not move on defense when you have all these movement skills. And fuck me if I get shot defending, there's no way I'll be able to catch a flag runner. He's capped by the time I'm back. So I have to hope my pals on offense turn around and cut him off in the 5 sec he flashes by them.

[–]Zwitterions [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

That's how chasing in Tribes works. The offense clears defense around the flag stand and the capper tries to get out with high speed. Chasers generally only get once chance at making the return: https://youtu.be/JCOJpzgIz2M

[–]HeallunRumblebelly [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well, yeah, but being able to put shields up around your flag helps immensely. It splats most of the fast classes instantly. And getting your jugs up to bomb the shields is an effort in itself. But yeah, it's -really- tough to get a good flag runner once he's otw back unless you can plant some kind of explosion based shit around his flag otw back. Map dependent, though.

[–]GabrielRR 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (35子コメント)

The problem is that Pilot Vs Pilot is awful, I dread everytime this comes up in Mixtape

[–]atriax 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (34子コメント)

To you. A lot of people prefer pilot vs. pilot.

[–]fuzzbunny21 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's my most played game mode by far. On PS4 there are always populated games. Didn't realize it was unpopular until this thread.

[–]XenoCorp 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There are a dominant amount of PC people here.

[–]ntn2 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This sub is dominated by PC players, which is why if you only pay attention here you would think literally nobody plays this game and it's awful.

[–]Deroni76 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

"A lot"? Last time I tried to play it, there were eleven people playing Pilots vs Pilots, total.

[–]Slime0 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

In your region, on your platform, at that time of day.

[–]Deroni76 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (3子コメント)

You're saying this as if I'm living on a remote island in the middle of the Pacific or something. The main modes like Attrition and Bounty hunt get over 1200 players at peak times; meanwhile Pilots vs Pilots is sitting in the single digits. That's not normal.

[–]XenoCorp 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

PC I assume... Xbox Attrition is usually like 30-50k these days.

[–]NothingSignifcant [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Most I've seen on Xbox Attrition was ~10-12k a couple of weeks ago.

[–]XenoCorp [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Staring at 31,364 right now...Midwest North America

[–]Loud_Stick [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I've never played anything other than attrition lol

[–]Rahgahnah [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Funny that you list those game types, because I'm happy for the DIY Mixtape solely because I can exclude Pilots vs. Pilots.

[–]StonewallHaxson [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Pilot vs Pilot shouldn't even exist, it's just literally Call of Duty. Why anyone would buy Titanfall 2 just to not pilot titans is absurd to me.

[–]HappyZavulon [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Personally that's the only mode I like. I care not about being in a lumbering mess of a titan on tiny maps.

As a pilot you can do wall running, chain jumps, bunny hop, do crazy slides.

As a titan you can press W and LMB.

[–]AdminsMoreLikBadmins [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Agree that its a total waste of time, and if you like it youre crazy, but the parkour is sooooo fucking good that it isnt like CoD at all.

[–]BisonST 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I love Pilot vs. Pilot. I love round gameplay (I like being slow and methodical rather than trying to rack up kills). Pretty excited for this.

[–]johnyann 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I love this game because while you're being slow and methodical, I can flank you a a billion miles an hour, miss every shot, and die anyway but still have a lot of fun doing it.

[–]BisonST 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I really meant I don't like being reckless. In Titanfall 2 I'm just as bad at flanking.

[–]Atalanto 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Have you played Rainbow Six Siege? its wonderful

[–]NoSkyIsTooHigh 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Have you heard the good news?

[–]Atalanto 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Lmfao, that is gold holy shit. That was one of my buddies for a year before I finally gave in and now.....now I am one of them.....

[–]NoSkyIsTooHigh 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yup, me too, I converted to rainbow six a few months ago. Siege is good. Hallelujah.

[–]Arthur_Person 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

so Pilots of Osiris?

[–]oneupdouchebag 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It seems a bit more like Breakout with the neutral flag, but this is a much better name.

[–]Commiesalami 56 ポイント57 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Kinda underwhelming sadly. The game really needs more full sized maps for Attrition & Bounty Hunt. I understand that Respawn can pump out smaller maps quicker, but the majority of the playerbase is either in mixed Titan/Soldier modes or Last Titan Standing. People are playing Titanfall to play with titans.

That said, the improvements to the playlist selection & differing intro animations are welcome QoL improvements. (If I hear Ashe say "Focus. Fight. Win" one more time ....) I feel like custom Mix tapes (searching for multiple playlists at once) is the kind of thing that should be standard in all online games with lots of playlists (i.e. Destiny)

Here is hoping that there is a weapon balance update included as well. A Respawn Community Manager has said that there will be a weapon balance pass included. So I'm more optimistic now.

[–]BeardyDuck 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (7子コメント)

You're acting as if the things in the article are the only things coming with the next update.

Everything else is still highly classified, but hopefully you are starting to get a sense at how we’re planning to support Titanfall 2 post-launch. Soon we will reveal our roadmap for the next couple months that will have more maps [including remasters of more maps from Titanfall], weapons, modes, and more.

[–]Drakengard 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (1子コメント)

He's right though, I hope the later stuff is better than this. It's obviously early going, but the pilot only stuff and the general lack of any indication of a balance pass coming is concerning even if it won't keep me away from the game in the short term.

Also, especially on PC, the last thing we need is another mode that has no players on it. We need less modes, not more.

[–]Zakman-- 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Patch will address balancing too.

Regarding a new mode, hopefully it shouldn't matter now that we can matchmake for multiple modes, unless people select only TDM... and if they do that having less modes won't help. People will still continue to only play TDM. I guess you could group every single mode together and have only playlists? But then you're removing freedom to select a specific game mode you want to play and that'd be a massive turn off.

Respawn have gone with the best possible approach. Apart from implementing a server browser, multiple mode matchmaking is the best form of matchmaking for any game really.

[–]darkmikolai -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Are you blaming him for Respawn's failure to communicate?

[–]bradamantium92 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

How is communicating a failure to communicate? It says right there that more content is on the way.

[–]darkmikolai -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Its fairly non-specific though, and fails to give any concrete info other than: There's a new mode where there is no Titans. 2 maps for that mode and 1 other map, also they are changing playlists or the interface related to it or something.

Compare that with-and I can't believe I am referencing them as a positive-Ubisoft and Rainbow Six Siege where its exremely specific for the most part.

http://imgur.com/a/cMR3B

4 new maps across 4 Seasons 8 new Year 2 Operators across 4 seasons 2 at a time.

Operators are released at the season Start, and they even show when the Mid-Season reinforcements drop. Which are personally my favorite kind of updates in regards to Rainbow Six. They are big changes in these Mid-Season patches.

Ubisoft is pretty darn specific and Respawn... well....

In our next content drop coming soon,

Yea....

[–]bradamantium92 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It clearly explains the new mode, shows a teaser for both maps, tells us there's a new execution and expanded lines for factions coming, and shows off the first step towards a new system for queuing for matches. It's pretty clear. Ubisoft just has to be clearer because they're selling their content. And it's literally just "here are the numbers of things we're doing."

[–]Commiesalami -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

More content on the way, for this update or another one down the road? I'm happy that they are working more Maps, Titanfall 1 remasters, weapons, modes, etc., but other than the new game mode there isn't much that is confirmed coming in this update. Even mentioning that a weapon balance is coming or a time frame for the update would have been a lot better.

[–]thekongninja 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'll take "Focus. Fight. Win." over "The Frontier is worth every part of this fight!" tbh. The best is obviously "OI! Fighting is what you were born for!"

[–]Domeil 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm more of a "First we Fight, then we drink!" followed by "The six-four is a family, and we'll kick your arse!" kind of pilot.

[–]stir_friday [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I actually like pilot gameplay a lot better. I miss the more durable titans of TF1 because it was easier to just drop them and leave them on autopilot while I went about my piloty ways.

[–]Stormcrownn [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think that matchmaking is insanely cool. No shooters have that right now.

[–]kris_the_abyss 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (8子コメント)

You guys are a bunch of debbie downers, I have 150 hours in this game with no actual want to stop and this makes me excited...

[–]Commiesalami 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (7子コメント)

They announced a weapon balance pass will be included, so im feeling a lot better about the update.

[–]XenoCorp 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

People forget that in 6 months Overwatch only released 3 main game maps... Titanfall has given you 1 Attrition Map already. In only 2.5 months. There's plenty of time for more.

[–]Scarmander [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

True, but with the different character types each Overwatch map can play completely differently and reduce the need for fresh maps because of that. Titanfall while awesome, has the same mobility amongst all players, so once you got the map you're pretty much done.

[–]trekie88 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm happy that respawn is adding new free content but what needs to be added are more larger maps. A few new titans would also be nice

[–]TekLWar 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

lightning fast 6v6 Pilot only mode

...Well, I guess at least I can enjoy the commander intros and new execution?

[–]gebruiker02 [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

The game looks so cool. I am not really great at FPS though, is this game worth picking up in this case?

[–]JackyMehoff [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If it looks like something you would enjoy, go for it. Some people aren't going to be into it that is for sure, but I have been playing since launch and love the hell out of it. The movement and pace of the game just feel great to me. I also like all the different weapons and how they all feel distinct enough to warrant multiple loadouts. If you like that kind of frantic wild multi-player, you can't go wrong here.

[–]HappyZavulon [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Honest answer? No.

The campaign is solid but I did not enjoy the multiplayer too much, mainly because its hard to find a match in some modes and I really do not like Attrition (the main one where you farm bots).

I spent about 10 minutes waiting for a match last week because I did not want to play Attrition. In the end I just went back to Overwatch because it was taking so long for a round to start.

Still, the 5 hour campaign was extremely fun, so maybe get the game just for that when its on sale.

[–]stir_friday [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

On what platform? It's alive and well on XB1. I only have trouble finding a match in any playlist at crazy late night/early morning hours, though even then, I can get into Attrition within a minute or two.

I did have a hard time finding matches on PC though, even though I was playing during a free weekend.

[–]HappyZavulon [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I tried it on PC. Game is seriously dead outside of Attrition, and Attrition is dominated by people who have played since release (not noob friendly at all).

If someone wants a game that is easily playable at all times, Titanfall 2 on PC is not a good choice.

[–]stir_friday [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I really didn't enjoy it on PC. I'm not terrible at PC shooters, but I was getting destroyyyed in TF2 by people who were 10x more precise than me. Way more fun on console for me.

[–]MsgGodzilla 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (10子コメント)

A new mode (and one that apparently doesn't have titans) is the LAST THING this game needs. On PC half the modes are abandoned as it stands, and mixtape is woefully underpopulated. This doesn't bode well. It's shocking how few lessons they learned from TF1, and sad because they have a solid core game. Hopefully their matchmaking update will make it easier to get games that aren't just attrition/bounty hunt.

[–]Lamneth-X1 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

On PC half the modes are abandoned as it stands, and mixtape is woefully underpopulated.

It sounds like the PC community just isn't that interested in TiF2. On consoles, I never have issues finding a match in almost anything.

[–]8-Brit [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Strange, I never have an issue in PC even at weird times of day and on less popular game modes. It takes me max two minutes to get a match.

[–]ntn2 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Trying to convince PC players that the problem isn't the game it's their platform is not going to be a popular argument on reddit even if it's right.

[–]AdminsMoreLikBadmins [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Holy fuck. Create our own mixtapes. This is something that occured to me back during CoD 4 and thought 'how has no one done this yet?' Go figure the Titanfall devs would feel the same way. Pretty stoked.

[–]Treyman1115 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pretty disappointed so far, I kinda like PvP but smaller maps not a fan of

Hopefully they're also adding something with Titans

Also don't see that new mode lasting that long on PC

[–]0mni42 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Medium-sized teams, high TTK, win by eliminating enemy team or capturing a neutral flag. So basically, Breakout from Halo 5? Y'know, I don't presume to tell professional game devs how to make good content, but Breakout was supposed to be Halo 5's big new srs business competitive e-sports mode and it pretty much flopped...

[–]Str8UpWilin 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Did it really flop? How? I always found full breakout matches easily unless you mean something else.

[–]0mni42 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Maybe I'm mistaken, but I was under the impression that it's always been the least-populated playlist, and that the e-spots community pretty much rejected it wholesale.

[–]Str8UpWilin 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It could be least populated but Halo 5's playerbase is large enough that you wouldn't notice whereas in Titanfall 2 it's very obvious why it's taking you so long to get Pilot vs Pilot mode.

[–]Commiesalami 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It flopped horribly as a competitive e-sports mode. There was a tourney set up in a best of X rounds format with the game mode of the rounds determined randomly. When breakout came up, some players just got up and left.

It's overall despised by the competitive Halo Community

[–]Str8UpWilin 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I figured as much but in terms of player count, you'll have no trouble finding a match which is what I fear will happen to live fire.

[–]DelThos 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm disappointed there is a new PVP mode when they need to be focusing on getting us better maps.

I'm to the point I play about two or three games and then go back to TF1 every single time because it's simply more fun.

[–]Dyfar 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would like new weapons and titans.

We have enough empty modes as is. A new mode is not really needed.

[–]razman360 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Great news! I'm glad to see the devs are still supporting this brilliant game for FREE. It's disappointing to see such a large proportion of commenters putting them down. I would expect the population to at least stay steady in time and perhaps grow as rainbow six siege did.

[–]Biomilk [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Not thrilled about all that effort being put into a new pilots only mode, but I'm very excited for the interface overhaul (especially being able to queue for multiple playlists) and new announcer intros.

Makes the choice of what I'm gonna play after I finish The Witcher 3 real easy.