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[–]ItsATedAndRandPartyTED 564 ポイント565 ポイント  (139子コメント)

Is this sub awake yet to the fact that ISIS are our pawns and we control what they do? Like wake the fuck up.

[–]golfrinserepeatMO 379 ポイント380 ポイント  (111子コメント)

Once you figure out how Obama and company used Isis to get at Assad, a lot of things fall into place. Like why they are so freaked out by Russia Russia Russia.

[–]masteroftheuniverse6CA 154 ポイント155 ポイント  (23子コメント)

Iran-Iraq-Syria Pipeline was chosen over Quatar-Saudi-Jordan-Syria Pipeline by Assad. Within a couple months the country was in a civil war. Go figure.

[–]golfrinserepeatMO 80 ポイント81 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yeah, I knew nothing of this pipeline thing until just a few months ago. From here.

[–]RootLevelPrivilege 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Me neither. The "educated" person in me knows that I should not get so much news from a Donal Trump supporters Reddit page, but the empiricist in me cannot deny the fact that this place centralizes some of the best information I've ever found.

[–]BigOldWhiteDick 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Read it here, verify it elsewhere.

[–]M4TTST0D0N 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Echoing my thoughts exactly

[–]poldicerRUS 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (0子コメント)

crazy how alex jones-type conspiracy theories are fucking conspiracy FACT now

[–]leakeyfaucet 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (10子コメント)

doesn't it have more to do with the petrodollar? something about iran finding oil reserves and wanting to supercede OPEC with Russia, who only trade oil in USD which makes our 17 trillion in debt not worthless?

[–]poldicerRUS 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

similar deal...it's both the petrodollar and the pipeline and syria's geolocation. saddam and gaddafi were executed for trying to not use the US dollar

[–]bh506407COLBERT SPECIAL GUEST 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is the sad truth. The blood is all on Obama's and Kerry's hands, yet they try to make Russia and Israel look like the bad guys in the global community. No wonder people cheer when our citizens die.

No more of this bullshit. Once Daddy gets into office, shit is gonna change.

[–]hotcurlingironnurassUSMC 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

[–]jcmmnx 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yes and now George Webb is saying Little Marco is involved.

[–]hotcurlingironnurassUSMC 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I knew about McCains and Grahams motivations, but I was wondering what the hell was up with Rubio giving one of Pres. Trumps appointees a hard time at the confirmation hearing... Now I know.

[–]147DegreesWest 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Marco and McMuffin--maybe has to do with Mormon ties?

[–]ItsATedAndRandPartyTED 108 ポイント109 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Bush did the same

[–]ocelotking 67 ポイント68 ポイント  (0子コメント)

George "new world order" bush

[–]JohnGTrumpTX 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Not really. Bush declared war on terrorism and blatantly and openly sent into Afghanistan and then Iraq. Obama has covertly led wars by propping up rebels under the guise of 'civil war' and 'rebellion' against Assad.

Bush even warned about the rise of ISIS if we prematurely pulled out of Iraq

[–]Brad_Tits 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

and they refuse to call ISIS a terrorist group.

[–]EreTheWorldCrumbles 41 ポイント42 ポイント  (72子コメント)

Can you summarize why they're so freaked out? Is Russia committing the same atrocities for their own gain, or do they actually have some moral high ground over the US?

[–]golfrinserepeatMO 214 ポイント215 ポイント  (66子コメント)

Because they came to Assad's aid. Obama thought he could just arm and fund the "rebels", which were just the Muslim Brotherhood front for Isis et al, and let them get strong enough that Assad would step aside. But Russia was asked by Assad to help, they came, and started killing all of Obama's "rebels" (95% Isis) and thwarted him. Meanwhile Soros had given tens of millions to outfits like Human Rights Watch which were providing propaganda to US and European news outlets which were twisting what was really going on there, for instance, Aleppo. When the Russians finally got "the resistance" out of Aleppo, the people came out and celebrated. Huge caches of American weapons and supplies were found, including sarin gas. This was bad. It's why virtually no US MSM outfits even mentioned it. Turns out, we are actually the bad guys in Syria any way you cut it. Without the Russians, Obama would have got rid of Assad and propaganda outfits Soros controlled would have ensured Americans would be none the wiser.

Edit: Fixed last sentence to make sense.

[–]mjedmazgaUSA 113 ポイント114 ポイント  (17子コメント)

Once all this dawn on me a few weeks ago, specifically thanks to the help of George Webb videos on YouTube, it was a huge red pill to me. My fucking country has done terrible, terrible things in the middle east since 2010, and Obama, Hillary, McCain, Graham, plus current and former CIA were at the heart of it all. And they lied to all of us about what was really happening.

Absolutely despicable and I pray to God that justice will be served some how.

[–]BMCossey 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fear not patriot, justice will be served. It may not be swift, or even in this life but it will be served.

[–]cursedcassandra 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mr. mcMuffin was part of the ISIS Syria treachery.

[–]dunderalexx 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Sorry to break it to you but the U.S been pulling shit like this for a looong time in the middle east. Go speak with any persian (Iranian) older than 25-30 who knows a bit about the history about how the Islamic revolution just "happened". And even more recent......... Irak? I doubt shit like this will stop. Maybe with Trump it takes a pause. But what about 4-8 years from now? I don't trust anyone after this election man...

[–]MissMarple2 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I was a young married woman when the Shah was stabbed in the back by Jimmy Carter. No doubt the US fomented the Iranian Revolution; I saw it happening on TV.

So, when all those "students" were out in the Cairo streets, I recognized the same thing. I even called it to the attention of Stephen Hayes on Twitter, but he mocked me because he thought it was a democratic revolution because press on ground (mostly Anderson Cooper) told him so.

I have never gotten over it. Here I sit in central Indiana, and I could spot a radical Islamic overthrow better than a guy on the Weekly Standard. So take his opinions for what they are worth; NOTHING.

We should have helped the Iranians when they wanted to overthrow the Islamiicist rulers. But by then, Obama was president and he did NOTHING.

[–]poldicerRUS 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

sad thing is those commie 'students' who overthrew the shah were gonna turn it into some leftist 'utopia' so the nutjob religious muslims took advantage of that and overthrew the leftist 'students' because the normal iranian people didn't want anything to do with communism.

[–]MissMarple2 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Exactly what happened in Egypt. A few well-meaning students and then Obama pressed for early elections. No one was organized but the Muslim Brotherhood, so they won.

That's how Morsi got in power. He started doing stuff like the Auatollah in Iran (changing the constitution, imprisoning enemies, etc.). That's when Sisi got fed up and took over.

I think Obama WANTED the Muslim Brotherhood in power.

[–]Yusaris_of_LondorFL 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (4子コメント)

All presidents after Ronald Reagan were globalist traitors.

[–]Megahump 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (1子コメント)

2010?!

The US has been anally raping the Middle East for at least 40 years.

[–]mrnewportsUSMC 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (3子コメント)

[–]RocklemoUSA 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (1子コメント)

His earlier videos were all deleted. I can't find anything before 51.

[–]throwitaway01234567CA 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You are correct. Which should tell everyone that he must be on to something

[–]masteroftheuniverse6CA 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (5子コメント)

You left out the start. Assad choosing Iran over the Arab State's (Qatar starting point) pipeline started this mess. Isis is designed to prevent Iran from getting a comparative advantage.

[–]golfrinserepeatMO 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, I did. Duly noted. The pipeline thing was a surprise to me when I first learned about it but explains so many things.

[–]ONEthirtyCA 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

This explains a lot as to why we were so surprised when we found Iranians fighting against Isis in the form of militia. There's so much at play, it's really hard to draw all the lines. At least that's what the MSM wants us to be - MSM states Iran stated they were never in the Isis fight until they accidentally bumped into the militia with Iranian flags.

[–]poldicerRUS 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

well iraq is very iran-friendly now. you just don't see it in the MSM that much. most people still think iraq is a 'sunni' country thanks to saddam emphasizing sunni islam. it's a heavily shia country and they have fallen into the iranian sphere of influence even though we still have partial beachheads still there like the big u.s. embassy in baghdad

[–]MeiCaiKouRouCA 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (10子コメント)

What a fucked up time to be alive.

[–]Megahump 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (6子コメント)

This is a pretty tame and peaceful time in modern human history. The 20th century was a 100 year bloodbath.

Trump's victory is one of the most significant things to happen in American history however.

[–]MeiCaiKouRouCA 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I know our times are more peaceful than the 20th Century. My point was that we live in times when treason is treated like a parking ticket. I'm not shocked by the violence of our times; I'm shocked by the lack of violence. Trump is being accused of treason by people guilty of treason. A lot of people talk about how divided our country is, but part of the reason why it's divided is because there is no price to be paid for being divisive. I want traitors to hang. I don't want to live in a world where people can commit treason and then I'm supposed to look the other way and forget about it. For example, the Obama administration is advising Israel to avoid sharing secrets with the Trump administration? This is the unified front we're showing the outside world?? Someone needs to hang. In my world, accusations of treason, or insinuations of treason, would not be taken lightly at all. In my world, if you accuse someone of treason, and they're guilty, they hang. If they're not guilty, and you made the accusation to slander the person, you hang. If that isn't done, then you live in a dystopia of fake news and bald faced evil disgraceful sub-human liars, which is the world we live in. (That's what I meant when I said it's a fucked up time to be alive. It's the only time in human history you can witness treason and no one hangs.) I hope when Trump becomes President, heads roll, and I mean that literally.

[–]edsthehun 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well said. Everything went to shit when the formal duel was illegalized.

We would never have had the country that we do without the duel. A man staked his life on his honor, and lacking honor he faced a mile long line of men ready to end his life.

[–]MeiCaiKouRouCA 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's a good point about dueling. There has to be a price to be paid for slander. Trolls should fucking pay and if you legalized dueling a lot of trolls would shut up quick.

[–]Megahump 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Great post. I am 100% team Russia when it comes to Syria.

[–]SirPepeALotENG 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Huge caches of American weapons and supplies were found, including sarin gas.

[–]EreTheWorldCrumbles 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (22子コメント)

Makes sense, but I want to know what Russia's motivation and moral standing is. Logically, Putin is just another power seeking globalist in competition with other globalists, but is there a chance that he is attempting to resist the globalists on moral and principled grounds? Is he potentially the good guy, is what I'm asking...

[–]golfrinserepeatMO 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (10子コメント)

I wouldn't say he's a good guy, but he can be a potential ally in many international matters particularly dealing with the ME. Russia has been an ally of Syria for a long time, going back several decades. Putin is a Russian nationalist, anything he does has to have a benefit to Russia or he wouldn't bother. But the last thing we want is a belligerent relationship with them, because it's stupid and totally unnecessary. It would be better to be wary allies with the country with the most nuclear bombs in the world (we're a close second...)

[–]EreTheWorldCrumbles 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Compared to nihilistic murderous globalists, "Russian nationalist" is pretty palatable actually...

[–]Megahump 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Russia is also a Christian nation, which is pretty significant. Christianity is also spreading pretty quickly throughout China, which doesn't get talked about often.

[–]Yusaris_of_LondorFL 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Fun fact: Iran has the fastest growing church in the world.

[–]Bluemwa1AL 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Eh, he's more of an expansionist. He wants all the USSR land back under Russian control, with no exceptions. And they'll help any communist country or their allies. Now, the problem is that Iran, China, and to a certain extent North Korea fall under this title. China is a half-breed:expansionist and globalist. NK is just so out there that Russia even tries to forget its presence. But Iran is very much nationalistic. It likes to meddle in global affairs, but want to take care of own country. All of these countries have major issues within their societies that doesn't even include our basic way of life. Russia has epidemic poverty that everyone glosses over, it is pretty oppressive and they're population is shrinking. China has major issues of riots, extreme poverty, and limited control over crime syndicates. Iran is all over the place with their problems, but they, like NK, are quiet and secretive about their situations. They both have extreme crackdowns on anyone in disagreement with their dictates. They have a lot of control over their citizens. Of course, we can't leave out the fact that the West destabilized Iran, starting their devolvement.

[–]Joermundgand 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shanghai Cooperation organisation, you might want to include an additional nation to list, all those infrastructure projects in Burma, Malaysia and Thailand links India and China ever closer.

[–]OpenCapCAN 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (1子コメント)

To give you a better idea of the character of Putin check out this full transcript of a speech he gave to the United Nations National Assembly back in 2015. Very eye opening.

Excerpt:

Mr. President,

Mr. Secretary General,

Distinguished heads of state and government,

Ladies and gentlemen,

The 70th anniversary of the United Nations is a good occasion to both take stock of history and talk about our common future. In 1945, the countries that defeated Nazism joined their efforts to lay a solid foundation for the postwar world order. Let me remind you that key decisions on the principles defining interaction between states, as well as the decision to establish the UN, were made in our country, at the Yalta Conference of the leaders of the anti-Hitler coalition.

The Yalta system was truly born in travail. It was born at the cost of tens of millions of lives and two world wars that swept through the planet in the 20th century. Let’s be fair: it helped humankind pass through turbulent, and at times dramatic, events of the last seven decades. It saved the world from large-scale upheavals.

The United Nations is unique in terms of legitimacy, representation and universality. True, the UN has been criticized lately for being inefficient or for the fact that decision-making on fundamental issues stalls due to insurmountable differences, especially among Security Council members.

However, I’d like to point out that there have always been differences in the UN throughout the 70 years of its history, and that the veto right has been regularly used by the United States, the United Kingdom, France, China and the Soviet Union, and later Russia. It is only natural for such a diverse and representative organization. When the UN was first established, nobody expected that there would always be unanimity. The mission of the organization is to seek and reach compromises, and its strength comes from taking different views and opinions into consideration. The decisions debated within the UN are either taken in the form of resolutions or not. As diplomats say, they either pass or they don’t. Any action taken by circumventing this procedure is illegitimate and constitutes a violation of the UN Charter and contemporary international law.

We all know that after the end of the Cold War the world was left with one center of dominance, and those who found themselves at the top of the pyramid were tempted to think that, since they are so powerful and exceptional, they know best what needs to be done and thus they don’t need to reckon with the UN, which, instead of rubber-stamping the decisions they need, often stands in their way.

[–]SavageGrimlockMAGA 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Putin is full on Russia first. Helping Syria is not just helping an ally, but preventing the Saudis from getting a pipeline to Europe, so that Russian Oil doesn't have to compete with Saudi Oil. Will probably build a pipeline through Syria from Russia instead, giving Assad some kind of payoff or percentage of profits.

[–]cursedcassandra 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Putin is a nationalist. Russia first. Make Russia Great Again. He's Orthodox Christian as is his country. He hates the Globalists, Soros and the Rothschild's who want to rape Russia and turn it into a vassal state. He sees America, correctly since its been controlled by war mongering globalists since Reagan, as an existential threat to all countries who want to be free to chart their own course. Putin is Russia's Trump. We could make breathtaking allies.

[–]poldicerRUS 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

actually putin is a nationalist...he's one of the only nationalists in charge of a powerful country...he has an arrest warrant out for soros and banned all soros-type operations inside russian borders. and other shit like EU and other UN-type bullshit putin really hates too. so i don't know what your idea of anti-globalism is...but to me putin fits that moniker easily. why do you think the globalists turned on putin after crimea? remember the 2008 georgian war where georgia tried to flush out the pro-russian territories of south ossetia and abkhazia bu failed miserably because putin went blitzkrieg on georgia's ass? same shit happened then too from the globalists in being 'anti-russia'

[–]StankypussaySRB 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yes he is the good guy, just look who he had been fighting.

Globalist? Milion dollar bounty on Soros head directed by Putin. For many people around the world Putin is the saviour in the time of a extremely reckless, aggressive and evil USA.

[–]poldicerRUS 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

russia saw what happened to gaddafi and they were like 'fuck this shit...we'll try to save at least one anti-u.s.a. puppet regime'

[–]whatitdo6MI 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm guessing it's partially the latter. Mostly though, I bet putin picked up on what Obama was pulling by deliberately letting isis fester. It's right on his border. I bet he is trying to irradicate this US government controlled ISIS that could be knocking on his door.

[–]WombBroom 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Russia is actually invested in the Shiite gas pipeline, to hedge their own European pipeline. No atrocities involved.

[–]StankypussaySRB 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

As many people have said, Russia first, but its not only about providing the best for Russia. Putin is a very, very loyal ally, be on his side and consider the promises mostly fulfilled.

Since Putin extremely cleverly outmaneuvered, Mr Vodka and took control of Russia, he woke has awaken the great Russian Bear that has been sleeping.

Around 1999 Russia was a shithole, the union collapsed in a bang, people was a shit hole, the military was mostly filled with rusty old gear that was useless mostly.

He quickly began to repair what could be saved and has as you see in 2017 cemented Russia as the second biggest global power.

A big money drain was that after the collapse of the Soviet union. Many oligarchs took advantage of the privatisation of the oil business. Making themselves really fat while draining Russia. Putin put an end to that when he gave them all a ultimatum. Leave and have a bounty on your head or pay back every penny that you stole from Russia and forever provide in the interest of the Russian state and people.

Let's say like this, all left except one, Roman Abramovich And as mentioned, be his ally and you shall be rewarded. The owner of one of the biggest football clubs in the world, or soccer like you call it. Chelsea, a club he himself took from mid-lower table to top team.

http://m.imgur.com/re49ZJ4 Showing you in numbers what Putin managed to revive.

For many nations around the world he stands for justice and the people in those countries would rather have him as president then their own presidents. He has defended some nations sovereignty even though when those countries themselves didn't when they were marionetted by Russia.

But many hate him also because of the extreme harassment from Media portraying him as a dictator as evil and ruthless as stalin and Hitler.

The last few years, the russophobia provided by the media has been disgusting.

Just take a look at the Ukraine situation, how the fuck did the Russians become the bad guys? Because of interests of course. The same media attacking trump has been attacking Putin, for an even longer time. And who are they controlled by? Soros/Clinton.

The last 15 years the US have violated numerous important deals that Russia has respected, while being broken by the US. It was possible while Russia was weak, not anymore.

Without any doubt in my heart Putin is the good guy in this bag of really fucked up, evil politicians. Just listen to him on interviews, he is so damn polished and clever.

An example: https://youtu.be/kqD8lIdIMRo

Been fighting the globalists for a while now!

[–]Orca_OrcinusTX 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

ISIS/IS was created by the Saudi royal family, who want a global wahabist caliphate.

They call it DaEsh which is the Arabic acronym. It's main goal was to undermine Syria and Bashir al-Assad to foment a revolution that Saudi Arabia could use to take over Syria.

[–]Keyboard_Mouseketeer 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

They wanted to do in syria what they do everywhere. Back a rebel groups takeover of government. Paint existing ruler as a murderous thug. Then the new leadership gives us control over the countries resources and lets us build oil pipelines through their country. The end.

[–]honorocagan 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wasn't up-to-speed with politics back then, but I distinctly remember a time when Al-Qaeda were no longer a threat, we were told.

But they seemed to be immediately replaced by another faction, similar to them.

ISIS, we were told. By Obama.

"Apparently they're the new Al Qaeda," everyone said. And then ISIS were a household name, since they featured in so many news reports.

And that was it. We ate it up.

The curtains are being drawn back, folks. Try not to squint at the brightness of the light.

[–]RpxtoreadorCA 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (1子コメント)

We need to put that pic up right next to him and soros. What a tangled web you weave Songbird mccain

[–]dandylionsummer 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We need to spread this picture everywhere in Arizona. Who was McCains republican opponent? They need it.

[–]HillHeartsHumaUSA 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I've been saying this since the beginning -- "The No Agenda Show" listener here.

There were SO MANY fishy things very early with ISIS:

  • 20000 STINGERS "MISSING" IN LYBIA
  • They have too many names, are they ISIS? ISIL? IS? DAESH?
  • They have a surprisingly high number of new looking Toyota truck: a CIA sponsored terrorist favorite.
  • The DIA trained and sponsored groups in Syria and the CIA trained and sponsored groups in Syria, but they weren't the same groups and they were fighting across purposes.
  • Those fucking videos. The "official" ISIS ones early on were pussy shit. The cameras cut away during decapitation. It was Hollywood BS. Also there were a lot of unanswered questions about the "journalists" who were captured and "killed".
  • The alignment with the 7 countries plan.

and did I say 20000 STINGERS "MISSING" IN LYBIA

[–]xygo 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You missed an obvious one - why have they never once attacked Israel ?

[–]globalism_sux 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Well, as long as we're down the rabbit hole on this one, I'll go ahead and post this.

Usual disclaimer: we know so little about al-Bagdhadi that any information at all regarding his identity has to be taken with a grain of salt, etc.

TL;DR: ISIS is actually a Mossad operation, set up with the sole intent of taking out Assad in Syria. (Presumably)

[–]ItsATedAndRandPartyTED 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Agreed. Most terror groups are funded by the CIA and work with mossad.

[–]globalism_sux 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yep. Notice how, as much innate hatred as there is between the Muslims and the Jews, which would lead you to expect certain conflicts as inevitable, ISIS and Israel don't go at each other too often.

Really makes you think...

[–]ItsATedAndRandPartyTED 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Dude I'm half Jewish and I would bet my life Mossad and the CIA are to blame for most terror attacks. Not a fan of Israel but I hate Islam even more. Barbaric goat fuckers.

[–]American_Geordie 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Israel is land grabbing and taking advantage of the Jewish exodus across Europe to expand its settlements. The Israeli government has completely deregulated what it means to be an ethnic Jew, for immigration purposes at least, in order to inflate its population and land grab territory from Muslim neighbors fighting internal conflicts.

[–]orbzel 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly. Groups as big as isis do not rise to power level where they can topple nations by themselves. They obviously had and still have major support from western nations.

[–]s1mplistic 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I guess they're finally waking. Notice how Obama mentions are plans involving ISIS. It's the easiest way to communicate without being called out.. Instead it's "transparency".

[–]DeplorableWeARMY 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

8 days and they won't be

[–]DunhildaUK 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe so, but having them attack EU or the US means they need to be stopped, simply because if the US are the ones ordering them around that means the Government has not only attacked their own allies but their own people, Treason.

If the US are not the ones that are ordering them around then it's Copycat attacks being committed by the people being radicalise within the US or within EU, and this is happening because of ISIS are being "Honoured" by mosques leaders or their own Videos they created.

[–]EreTheWorldCrumbles 109 ポイント110 ポイント  (48子コメント)

So... We really arm/support terrorists who wrest control of US business interests from poor Middle Easterners, so we don't have to do it ourselves. The Islamists do it under the false guise of insane religious zeal, so that it doesn't look like it's motivated by profit... And then we make business deals with these terrorists in order to get the assets that they stole for us?
Is that really what all this is, or am I imagining too much?

[–]Leatherwood123TN 64 ポイント65 ポイント  (39子コメント)

That pretty much sums it up only you forgot the part where the Islamists turn around and kill us.

[–]EreTheWorldCrumbles 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (31子コメント)

I feel like I just left the matrix and everything is so clear. It's all for profit, wealth, and power. Islam is just another religion. Governments are facades. The world is directed by wealthy and powerful people who make business deals with other wealthy and powerful people, who have no allegiance to their country, at the expense of countless innocent lives. And they use philosophy (altruism, collectivism) and religion (Islam) to fool people into thinking that political action is EVER motivated by something other than the pursuit of wealth and power. ISIS isn't a religious organization, it's a profit driven organization with an endless supply of zealot pawns. The US government isn't a government, it's a cabal of globalist businessmen pursuing wealth all over the world at any moral cost.

How very fucked up.

[–]Leatherwood123TN 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (19子コメント)

Yep - been going on since before we were born, apparently. Takes a while to get used to the idea once you are woke.

[–]EreTheWorldCrumbles 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (18子コメント)

Yeah, you know I always knew that there was a lot of this going on. But the revelation I had in this moment is that it's not just "a lot". It's literally everything that governments do. It's the entire purpose and the reason for their existence. Governments (such as they exist now) are nothing more than a means for the most powerful and immoral people in the world to commit the most heinous anti-human acts in the pursuit of profit, and to do it in a complex enough manner (by sowing moral and political confusion) that the people of the world can't perceive or understand the atrocities that are being committed right in front of them.

[–]Leatherwood123TN 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Yes - I didn't sleep for about 2 weeks when it finally hit home for me. That was before the election. Sleeping better now knowing that we are turning the corner and MAGA. We have got to stop letting our country be used to wreak havoc globally. The people of the world need to take the world back from these evil globalists.

[–]EreTheWorldCrumbles 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (12子コメント)

You really think Trump is above this stuff (I'm sincerely asking)?

[–]gmousasi 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I believe he is. I think of course he knows about it all, has connections, etc. but has basically gone rogue and the elites tried to stop him by painting him as a clown. He is a patriot who loves his country and wants to take it back. Hes been saying the same things for decades.

I knew it just based on how he is being attacked by the MSM. Then I was convinced at the Al Smith dinner, when Trump called out the elites and roasted Hillary Clinton right in front of their faces and laughed as they boo'd him. I also noticed everyone was drinking thousand-dollar wine, while Trump was the only person in the room drinking diet coke.

Trump is different.

[–]EreTheWorldCrumbles 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's a nice thought. If nothing else, Trump is worth a shot--because what the fuck is the alternative..

[–]throwitaway01234567CA 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

The fact that both the Democrat and Republican establishment was so against him was enough for me. The Bush family didn't endorse him. McCain is actively working against him. They made it so easy for us to see who the right choice was.

[–]Leatherwood123TN 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I believe that he is. If he proves not to be, I will stop believing.

[–]EreTheWorldCrumbles 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I sure hope so, buddy.

[–]Leatherwood123TN 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Gotta believe that good conquers evil in the end. Americans are mostly good people and would never have supported what has been done in our name had we known. In God we trust.

[–]cursedcassandra 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They wouldn't be so openly demonic if Trump wasn't legit. We are at war for the soul of our world. We need to really have Trump's back now that he's in the swamp not only of America but the world.

[–]AlanAmpersand1CA 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I believe he is, but still has to navigate through the shit to an extent. You can't full blown redpill at once, especially to this degree.

[–]UThinkUDoButUDont1 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well theres this https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/4y4j41/alex_soros_the_question_is_which_of_these_flags/ Theres the european union flag up there. Trump loves farage and even had him speak at one of his rallies When this subreddit adores whats happening in the EU (farage, le pen, etc) consider the same thing as whats trumps doing here and that this could just be controlled opposition. Also that trump loves israel and publicly stated that. Mossad and the cia are the people behind all of this for the most part. Who knows, maybe trump really is the real deal and means what he says but the cia and mossad dont have much use for the terrorist groups like ISIS anymore now that they are finishing the plans for complete banking control. http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data/government/banking_and_taxation_irs_and_insurance/social_security/news.php?q=1320062234 That list of countries look familiar? All countries we went in and created rebels and then systematically removed their leaders. Now we have cuba, iran and north korea left. Cuba was starved economically due to the elites refusal to finance them and same with korea. Iran is arguably russia's best ally which helps keep them somewhat afloat im assuming. Who knows how much propaganda is spread about korea and cuba to be honest. They could be those who refuse to hand over their country to the elite and as retaliation the elite forces everyone else to not trade with them. Hard to tell exactly whats going on over in those two countries tho. But Iran is even stranger because of the Iran deal obama struck with them and they aren't on the banking system. The only thing I can think of that makes them unique is their religious demographic With all that said I think, even with trump's presidency, that the future looks much brighter with the message trump brings. Im personally on the look out for the greater israel conspiracy pic Then consider that ISIS just got renamed into ISIL (Islamic state of iraq and levant) and that trump wants to go in and defeat ISIS. Trump might just give his isreali allies the levant region. I doubt this will happen but if it does that will be daunting because an extension of that theory is part of the new world order. Trump contributed to the clinton foundation a while ago as well. But also remember that julian assange mentioned in his recent video that there was a black pr campaign to get everyone to doubt his wellbeing and if wikileaks was compromised. There was a lot of convincing evidence to make people doubt if he was alive and such. The psychological warfare of fake conspiracy theories made by the elite can be very convincing and muddy the waters of whats actually happening. I personally think its much more likely trump is true to his word than being a part of the system from the start. Everything depends on what trump does in office, actions speak much louder than words in this day and age of lies.

[–]HusseinHaterRUS 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Founding fathers saw this shit a long time ago. Back to the Constitution.

[–]SirPepeALotENG 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

how was that enlightened 20th century? Global deaths how many through war, genocide, starvation...all done by atheists that have succeeded in murdering more people in 150 years than every single religion and philosophy since recorded history began.

Total fake by total fakes backed by scientism and fake metaphysics.

[–]DownvoteTAway 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Islam is not just another religion. Mohammed was a child rapist and a mass murdering warlord. Yes, our government (specifically the CIA) is and has been involved with/given support to terrorist groups, including ISIS.

But do not give Islam a pass. It's a barbaric and evil religion that is not compatible with Western law and values.

[–]EreTheWorldCrumbles 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I would never give Islam (or any bad or false ideas) a pass, I just think perhaps I've personally been downplaying how much the current advance of Islam's violent aspects must be due to outside influences, even the western world, exacerbating and encouraging it to achieve political and profitable ends.

[–]SirPepeALotENG 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

That does not explain the preceding 1350 years and 350 million deaths though.

[–]EreTheWorldCrumbles 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

History doesn't need Islam to be brutal and barbaric.

[–]glorious_kebabCAN 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No but Islam certainly didn't help...

[–]glorious_kebabCAN 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Global elites might be stirring up Muslims more than usual.

But it's not like they'd be peaceful left to their own devices. The barbaric teachings of Muhammad make it much easier to convince Muslims to murder and rape in the name of religion than say, a Buddhist or Christian.

[–]cursedcassandra 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That is why Trump kept saying his campaign wasn't about Republican versus Democrat but nationalism versus globalism. That's why you had the otherwise inexplicable event of the Bush dynasty and Republican neo cons supported Clinton despite her being the GOPs most hated Democrat ever. The DNC and GOP and CIA are globalists. Trump is their mortal enemy. Putin is their mortal enemy. I'm betting Iran is too.

[–]cursedcassandra 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Soros has used neo Nazi groups in the Ukraine and created BLM in America as a thug group plus he funds violent SJW groups.

[–]flightgirl1 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Can you blame them? We topple countries, kill hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians and displace millions more. Then we take their oil and money.

[–]djp2k12USA 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yes, I can. I used to feel that way when I was a high school kid 15 years ago. What you should look into is how Islam lies about being a "religion of peace" but in reality is in it for world domination.

[–]flightgirl1 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush, Obama and of course Hillary helped to create the problem. I understand why they hate us. Why hasn't our government learned from past mistakes? Greed and power

Edit to add, I know Islam is about world domination, just like the globalists. I am more afraid now of terrorist attacks than I was after 911. But we helped contribute greatly to the refugee and immigration crisis.

[–]djp2k12USA 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I highly recommend this video as a primer on the true agenda of Islam.

https://youtu.be/vKzkuQyexZc

Regarding your question, they don't learn from mistakes because to our previous horrible leaders they aren't really mistakes. A big part of their goal is destabilizing the Middle East and doing whatever the Saudi princes and their globalist new world order overlords want them to do.

[–]HusseinHaterRUS 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

an important part I think. (sarc)

[–]flightgirl1 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

We do it under the guise of humanitarian reasons. Assad never gassed his citizens a few years ago as we were told. Clinton operatives did. Blame Assad to have a reason to overthrow him.

[–]BernedOutInWA 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's it in a nutshell

[–]abnerjames 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Now think about how a mad Colin Powell stormed into the White House and later resigned from service under Bush, when the 9/11 attackers were allowed to succeed in dive-bombing the twin towers.

Now think about how our #1 importer of crude oil is from Saudi Arabia.

Now think about how you never hear negative news about Saudi Arabia. Yet every country AROUND it is somehow a problem.

Mecca is in Saudi Arabia.

The 9/11 hijackers were all Saudi Arabians.

Saddam Hussein would not trade his oil with US dollars.

The Iraqi people were brought to ruin because their rich leader didn't do what our rich leaders and their friends (the rich Saudis) wanted him to do.

So we literally bombed our own people, made a bunch of stupid shit up, and invaded his country under the guise that we gave a shit about a bunch of gassed Kurds.

[–]onewalleeeUSA 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This story is more complex than the picture would have you believe. For example, I'd wager significant money that that is not Caliph Ibrahim in the picture. There is some truth to the story this meme is trying to tell, but it's telling it using misinformation:

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5nkzge/senator_john_mccain_has_been_compromised/dccsgfu/

[–]CurseOfTheRedRiverTX 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes. With Obama/Clinton/Kerry running this country.... we are indeed the bad guys.

Sorry to break it to you. It all ends soon.

[–]boyd5362NC 72 ポイント73 ポイント  (24子コメント)

What is your source on this picture?

[–]osamathekitten 68 ポイント69 ポイント  (11子コメント)

http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/abu-mosa/ Abu Mosa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Bakr_al-Baghdadi Abu Bakr

You can just google the names, I don't want to google any more of these names though lol

[–]HusseinHaterRUS 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Thanks for the link, so what we've got is Kerry, McCain and Obama and Hillary implementing a idiotic plan that failed miserably. And it's easy to see why it failed, planned by four people that have totally no experience and are mostly half-wits. McCain as a POW. Kerry faked purple hearts and threw his medals away. Obama the community organizer and Hillary, wife of a Rapist. I'm embarrassed to admit any of these cucks were ever leaders in the USA. God help us. (edit) God-Emperor help us too.

[–]TRUMP4TWCAN 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (1子コメント)

yeah it kind of makes you wonder what was going on behind the scenes when you have this small group of people on both sides of the aisle colluding. Adds a loit more credence to the notion of a fake two-party system.

[–]JustDoinThingsNY 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Left encompasses the dems and top Republicans like Bush and McCain. They all want a global government with their families on top.

[–]PFN78 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

But was it really a terrible plan by half wits or are we supposed to think that's how it is?

Somebody pushed a nobody Obama into national prominence.

[–]kutchduino 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Use startpage.com. it searches Google anonymously for you.

[–]HusseinHaterRUS 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

nice thanks, I use duckduckgo

[–]VillageMask 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (4子コメント)

The picture is not there in the article provided below by OP, but that doesn't matter after recent events. We can make shit up too.

[–]deplorable16 59 ポイント60 ポイント  (8子コメント)

All for a Damn oil pipeline.

[–]SomeoneOnThelnternetCAN 42 ポイント43 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Under Obama:

US senators working with ISIS? A-ok.

US funding ISIS? A-ok.

US getting funds from countries that fund isis and kill gays? A-ok.

Thank god for Trump. All these fuckers that had any part in this need to go to jail.

[–]TheNameisCyrilFiggisRUS 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Under Obama, we've also been supporting neo-nazis in Ukraine (e.g., the Svoboda Party, Azov Battalion, etc.), to help check 'Russian aggression.' McCain's been down with that plan since at least 2013.

So Obama had us supporting & funding things like ISIS, the Al-Nursa Front, and actual white supremacists, while rapidly expanding a controversial drone program that has led to many innocent civilians being killed. What a guy. And a Nobel Peace Prize winner, to boot!

[–]ajfluffy 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

and don't forget the subsiding of Iran's economy

[–]TheNameisCyrilFiggisRUS 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ugh, I did forget about that! ╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[–]FreeSpeechZone 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And yet the SJWs freak out that Trump is in power. The irony is thicker than their skulls.

[–]gregariousbarbarian 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (4子コメント)

When Trump initially called McCain out, I thought hey not cool.

But just like everything else, he has incredible foresight.

[–]prospektor1 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think it's McCain who does the compromising ...

[–]CisSiberianOrchestraUT 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Number 5... I can't believe Shia LeBouf joined ISIS.

[–]Bull_Shit_Inspector 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (2子コメント)

...

[–]HusseinHaterRUS 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I spent 4 deployments avoiding becoming a POW, but I might consider risking it again.

[–]1LoneAmerican 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not knowing your talents if you have the fortitude. God be with you.

[–]dissentcostsmoney 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Such a scumbag

[–]bfdhudIL 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

He's senile, Probably thought they were going to clean his pool.

[–]djkellykellllz 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (6子コメント)

This is real??

[–]onewalleeeUSA 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's not. Frustrating seeing this. The reason it's upvoted so heavily is become there is a whiff of partial truth re the narrative it is telling.

[–]FamiliarGalaxy9CO 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well guys number 2 is definitely not al-bagdadi soooo

[–]geckogoose89 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just keep smiling, John, keep smiling.

[–]strosadCO 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well he did say that he knows these "Syrian Moderates" personally.

[–]BasedTrumpster 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What the actual fuck?? How did this motherfucker get reelected??

[–]HusseinHaterRUS 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Like most politicians, he can bullshit his way through mountains of controversy.

[–]MenInGreenFaces 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's not Baghdadi.

[–]HusseinHaterRUS 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We should do all we can to take this guy out of office.

[–]2_minutes_in_the_boxMA 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Ugh it's not al-baghdadi. We've been over this.

[–]onewalleeeUSA 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you patriot. I agree 100%.

[–]SamQuentin 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Proof please

The other guts pictured are known terrorists and this photo caused a stir in Lebanon because two of them had kidnapped 11 Shia before the photo was taken. To be pictured with multiple terrorist doppelgängers would be an amazing coincidence

[–]randomusername7725 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Can i get some proof pls

[–]onewalleeeUSA 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for asking for a source. I'm nearly certain it's not true.

This story is complex, will just point you at more details instead of copy/pasting

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5nkzge/senator_john_mccain_has_been_compromised/dccsgfu/

[–]Vapourface 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Probably promised them Europe.

[–]ENTPUSA 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

google images abu mosa. that is not abu mosa

[–]onewalleeeUSA 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That doesn't look like Caliph Ibrahim to me.

McCain definitely met with Syrian rebels, some of whom may have been tied to ISIS through allegiances or even directly (need to look closer) but I see no reason to believe that is Abu Bakr.

I have little doubt that he met with folks we would, at least later, classify as terrorists or bad actors. I'm objecting to the specific identification.

Is there any decent source on this other than "but they look alike right?" Because they don't look alike to me.

Stories like this can be a bit frustrating because there is an element truth to the narrative behind this photo, but by sensationalizing it and essentially claiming that he was in ISIS headquarters, it makes the entire thing easy to dismiss for folks who didn't know the original story.

It's important to acknowledge that I'm pretty sure (but not certain) that he took some photos with people involved in a kidnapping (though there is no evidence to suggest he knew that at the time).

This reminds me of that time Ronald Reagan met with Gulbuddin Hekmatyar in the White House (during or around the Soviet-Afghan War). Good old Gulbie's organization (Hezb-e-Islami Gulbuddin) ended up being one of the most lethal terrorist organizations fighting our troops and allies in Afghanistan many years later.

War makes for strange bedfellows, and there is a lesson to be learned from that. But we aren't as likely to learn it if there is (I'm sure sincerely believed) misinformation mixed in with the truth.

[–]Nalgahyde 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is that Lindsey Graham behind Mouaz Moustafa?

[–]EriePAforTrump 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Been out for years and this is why I'm fucking amazed he hasn't been nailed for treason. Sure he's a war vet/ powt. But WTF. Thats no Patriot

[–]PlanetEaterUnicron 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

McCain has been compromised since Vietnam, if not before.

[–]Baron_de_La_Brede 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

NYT called this fake news: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/12/world/middleeast/try-as-he-may-john-mccain-cant-shake-falsehoods-about-ties-to-isis.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

I don't think that's Baghdadi, however the story doesn't end there,

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/09/18/alleged-isis-photo-controversy-engulfs-sen-john-mccain/

It would appear that McCain had no idea who he was meeting or whether or not they were affiliated with ISIS/Al-Qaeda. More importantly, it seems that he doesn't care who gets US assistance as long as they're anti-Assad.

[–]InsaneEnergy4AUS 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He was always compromised. He was a traitor who recorded propaganda for the Viet Cong, and if you don't know what I'm talking about, go find his Tokyo Rose broadcast that was played over the airwaves in Vietnam.

[–]el_beso_negro 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

TIME TO PUT THE SONGBIRD IN IT'S CAGE WHERE IT BELONGS!

[–]bostonbean 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Still collaborating after all these years... Traitor

[–]astrocreeper0000 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

WTF? Why is this old coot not in a prison cell?

[–]PainStorm14 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Compromised only now? This has been common knowledge for several years already over here.

USA needs to get their media in order ASAP!

[–]PlhypeISR 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

No, that's not Isis leader Abu bakr al baghdadi. I don't believe this post. Wait, it does look like he took a picture before he lead Isis. His real name is Abu Dua

[–]Mr_unbeknownstUSA 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've been saying this for years. Been called a conspiracy theorist and all types of crap.

No FOOLS! McCain is a TRAITOR and a OLD POS

[–]nymph_of_anduin 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh my God, no... I- Does this mean what I think it does? Did the use Gov create ISIS on purpose? :|

[–]wehr-wolf 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I don't like John McCain as much as the next person here, but this is not a picture of him with ISIS - shills are trying to get you all to fall for fake stories. Do your research!!

[–]onewalleeeUSA 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're right. It's not him. With no accompanying evidence and a picture that, to my eye, doesn't look like him, I don't know why anyone would expect me to believe this.

Abu Bakr was part of ISI for a loooong time prior to leading ISIS. McCain might be dumb enough to let a couple unknown kidnappers photobomb his "Freedom Fighter" photo op. He is not however likely to be stupid enough to be photographed with an elite al Qaeda / Muj Shura Council guy.