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The Vault 95 Jet Inconsistency (self.Fallout)
SafeCandyAd Victoriam が 5時間前 投稿
Do we know when the vault was opened? There's also a bunch of Gunners in there who hauled in all kinds of stuff from the outside. Isn't it plausible that Raiders moved in first and that's where the Jet came from?
[–]soundtea 12 ポイント13 ポイント14 ポイント 5時間前 (11子コメント)
Thing is you find Jet in pre-war safes. Places where it would have never been since Jet was a post-war drug made from Brahmin manure vapors.
There's no good explanation for Jet on the East Coast unless you accept Bethesda's deletion of Myron's pretty detailed explanation of how he created Jet and the near 100 lives lost to make it.
[–]Radicalmonkey666 11 ポイント12 ポイント13 ポイント 4時間前 (5子コメント)
Maybe he lied and just found an old text book with the recipe which contained 'cow dung', nobody else knew what cow dung was so they never made it, Myron figured out a Brahmin was essentially a cow and figured out the rest.Jet wasn't popular or was banned pre-war in california and Myron took the market. There's always an answer with fictional game stories however far fetched.
[–]ArentaBrotherhood 7 ポイント8 ポイント9 ポイント 4時間前 (2子コメント)
.......this is actually the first theory i've heard that makes sense.
he found it in a text book and took credit..... someone tell bethesda they have a way out =D
[–]Radicalmonkey666 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 3時間前 (1子コメント)
It was a bit tongue in cheek, imagine the uproar if they put that in!
[–]ArentaBrotherhood 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
uproar yes? but would it fill in the inconsistency. oh yes
and it fits the wasteland perfectly.
if no one remembers it was originally a thing but you, why not take credit for it.
[–]soundtea 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 3時間前 (1子コメント)
Then maybe Bethesda should actually make some lore that explains Pre-War Jet. Not just go "lol maybe myron lied i dunno".
[–]SigournI is scientist. 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
Or better: stop Jet from appearing in safes.
[–]ButcherDXmmmmm -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 25分前 (1子コメント)
Thing is you find Jet in pre-war safes
Oh god, this again. People are trying to find an in-lore explanation for engine mechanics.
Safes are like containers and containers are populated with random loot. Seriously.
[–]joybuzz 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 7分前 (0子コメント)
Ok. How about the pre-war terminal that lists Jet as one of the drugs to be shipped to the vault. What engine mechanic put that in? It's also easy to blacklist an item from appearing to actually make sense in your supposed-to-be-story-driven RPG.
[–]fructosegutsNeon Furry Fraternity -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 5時間前 (2子コメント)
Well I mean jet could still be on the east coast. People have travelled there from the west coast since fo2.
I'd chalk jet being in pre-war safes or places that have been untouched to people working on the game who were just told to put loot places without much other direction. There's really no lord explanation for it.
[–]soundtea 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 5時間前 (1子コメント)
Except it's everywhere. Safes, stores, vaults, EVERYWHERE.
The amount of people who've traveled from the West to the East just cannot account for the sheer amount of Jet in places that should not have had any contact with it.
[–]fructosegutsNeon Furry Fraternity -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
Stores it makes sense, people's homes/safes makes sense. Vaults not so much.
And it isn't like people can't make jet, if just one person comes around and tells another person how to make it it'll likely start becoming more plentiful.
Like I said in the second part of my previous content; when it's in untouched places it makes no fucking sense and you can chalk it up to employees who don't know what they're doing.
[–]Navarroguardand ill say "maybe" 10 ポイント11 ポイント12 ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
the problem isnt that there is jet in the vault, the problem is that an offical pre-war vault tec terminal lists jet as one of the drugs they need to ship to the vault
[–]That_One_EngiAll Aboard The Pain Train! 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 1時間前 (1子コメント)
I think that Jet was a Pre War Drug. So heres my take on it: I know Myron made it, but what if he simply 'tweaked' a few things in the established recipe (resulting in higher addiction rates and a dependency on it). However, his improved Formula ended up killing a lot of his test subjects. Which you see in the Graveyards around Reno.
But when he finally 'improved' it, it swept the coast by storm. Addiction sells; Myron was happy to provide. Backing up the claim he made, he could easily pass of the Pre War Jet as a lower grade formula of his, before the better version came out.
[–]Navarroguardand ill say "maybe" 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 12分前 (0子コメント)
the problem with that is that he tells you exactly how it came to be. you NEED brahmin and they didn't exist back then.
[–]vic2077 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
It's merely an oversight from the developers. If you read the terminal, the experimentation was way back before the events of Myron's charades.
[–]LeeroyOfHouseJenkins 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 17分前 (0子コメント)
obviously if you use enough Jet you will go backwards in time
[–]rekyuu 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 7分前 (0子コメント)
jet anesthetic
what
[–]Tropican555Vault 76 -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
Loot is randomly generated. Bethesda can't fix the fact that jet is randomly generating in locked safes, as that would require completely recoding the vaults.
It's understandable to have Jet outside of safes and on tables in Vaults, but due to the generation algorithm for loot, it occasionally spawns in locked safes inside of vaults.
[–]EdibleButtStallion -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
Jet is a prewar drug, it was used as anesthetic I think but the method of production was lost during the Great War. Myron whatshisface found out a drug could be made from Brahmin dung which was almost identical to the prewar jet. This meant Myron could claim he made jet as no one could deny it and prewar ghouls who had used the drug couldn't tell the difference. While that is a stretch in explaining the lore inconsistency it is the best possible explanation I could come up with.
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