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Why is Hollywood (in particular) freaking out so badly over Trump?
First, because he's a Republican who might actually do the things he said he wanted to do. But second, because this is the first cultural victory the right has scored since Reagan stumbled into one in the '80s.
The left is used to losing political battles. They scream and cry over these but they don't truly panic, because they know that as long as they maintain their hammerlock on the culture, Republicans can't really change anything.
Blue Team Progressivism is a church, offering you moral superiority and a path to spiritual enlightenment. As a church it's got a lot going for it. It runs religious programming on television, all day every day. Every modern primetime program is like a left-wing Andy Griffith show, reinforcing lessons of inclusion, tolerance, feminism, and anti-racism.
Watching a 90-pound Sci-Fi heroine beat up a room full of giant evil men is as satisfying to the left as John Wayne westerns were for the right.
The Blue Church controls the HR department, so even if you don't go to church, you have to act like a loyal churchgoer in every way that matters while you're on the clock. And off the clock, on any kind of public social media platform.
Jon Stewart and John Oliver are basically TV preachers. Watching them gives the same sense of quiet superiority your grandma gets from watching The 700 Club. The messages are constantly reinforced, providing that lovely dopamine hit, like an angel's voice whispering, "You're right, you're better, you're winning."
Hollywood award shows are like church talent shows - the skits and jokes aren't really funny, but it's fun to look at the pretty girls, and you're all on the same team.
Red Conservativism is a business, selling a set of political products. They don't make you feel good, they don't appeal to your morality or your spiritual sense of self, but sometimes you really NEED one of their core products like security, jobs, or national defense. Their appeals to "freedom" and "family values" ring hollow these days, but when people are flying planes into buildings, you need a strong member of Conservatism, Inc. in the big chair.
And when it came down to the things that really mattered - welfare, Medicare, Social Security, and foreign policy, you knew Red Team couldn't really do anything Blue Team didn't approve of, or the Blue faithful would kick them out of office next time.
But Donald Trump didn't sign that contract. And Donald Trump didn't win by selling the same old conservative products. Donald Trump started his own religion, and he won a religious victory.
The Blue Church is panicking because they've just witnessed the birth of a new Red Religion. Not the tired old Christian crap they defeated back in the '60s, but a new faith based on cultural identity and outright rejection of the Blue Faith.
For the first time in decades, voters explicitly rejected the Blue Church, defying hours of daily cultural programming, years of indoctrination from the schools, and dozens of explicit warnings from HR.
We've been trained since childhood to obey the pretty people on TV, but for the first time in decades, that didn't work.
Donald Trump won because flyover America wants their culture back, and Blue Team has not been rejected like that before.
The younger ones have grown up in an environment where Blue Faith assumptions cannot even be questioned, except anonymously by the bad kids on Twitter.
But now the bad kids are getting bolder, posting funny memes that make you laugh even though John Oliver would not approve, like passing crude dirty pictures under the table in Sunday School.
Meryl Streep is panicking because for the first time voters have rejected HER, and everything her faith has taught her to believe.
There is a new faith rising on the right, not an explicit religious faith like long-dead Christianity, but a wicked kind of counterculture movement. We laughed at the hippies in 1968, but by 1978 they were teaching in classrooms and sitting behind school administrator desks.
Where will the hippies of 2016 be sitting after eight years of Trump? How many of the shitposting Twitter bad boys will start up alternative media outlets, until one of them becomes the new Saturday Night Live?
Sam Hyde tried it on Adult Swim, but that was just the early prototype, like Mad Magazine was for the left. There will be many others after him, and they won't be stopped by network filters. They'll come "out of nowhere" on the web, from the secret places that the inquisitors at Google can't shut down.
And that's what Meryl Streep is really scared of. She's not truly aware of it, just like fluttering housewives couldn't really understand the counterculture threat in 1968. But they feel that something is changing in their safe little world, and they know they have to fight it, because this threat isn't just passing pointless budget resolutions and selling pointless platitudes about family values - these guys mean business, and they're fighting on her turf.
UPDATE: Adding one thing in response to comments. Nothing against Christianity, I really wish it still had cultural power. But we can't keep wishing for it to come back or pretend it's still 1958 somewhere, not in an age when the Pope is the new spiritual leader of the progressive left. I think Christianity will come back, once the culture shifts, but the initial energy has to come from something else.
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[–]MAGATBHFAMFL 948 points949 points950 points  (159 children)
These people live in a bubble.
They have no concept of the damage that the policies they parrot have on the average American.
Virtue signaling at its most whorish.
[–]burgerposseOK 223 points224 points225 points  (8 children)
The best part is, Trump has run in these circles. He's been on TV, and he knows how they think. They can't outsmart him because he's already 10 steps ahead
[–]CrookedForPrison2016MD 58 points59 points60 points  (0 children)
Underrated comment.
[–]Joreb1TN 20 points21 points22 points  (0 children)
4-D Chess my man!
[–]erusch18WI 13 points14 points15 points  (0 children)
he's been playing 4D Chess since the 80s...
[–]truzoomKOR 111 points112 points113 points  (16 children)
I know a lot of people here love to fight the left, but I'm happy to sit back and let them continue being delusional and to keep making outrageous claims for the sake of "moral purity".
I figure.. they got this way on their own, and them being like this is a big reason why Trump won.. so why stop it? Like Icarus flew too close to the sun, we will eventually see the left take virtue signaling too far and they'll also fall.
[–]codepunk 43 points44 points45 points  (3 children)
I agree 100%, I love it, with any luck the inauguration will be a mushroom cloud of liberal hysteria.
[–]BeefsizzleMAGA 47 points48 points49 points  (2 children)
“Never interfere with your enemy when he is making a mistake.”
-Jean-Luc Picard
[–]SavageGrimlockMAGA 27 points28 points29 points  (0 children)
Don't stay completely out, we need people to keep mining or their salt output might fall. The more we mine, the crazier they seem to the average person.
[–]nofacebookaccount 21 points22 points23 points  (0 children)
I know, I am quite enjoying seeing Hollyweird implode.
[–]Daniel_USAUSA 216 points217 points218 points  (83 children)
but on paper they are perfect
[–]amagsIL 262 points263 points264 points  (64 children)
free college and free healthcare are a great idea!
I mean...I don't work anyway, so it would really help me out!
[–]VanillaSkyHawkMAGA 90 points91 points92 points  (1 child)
You have to go back.
[–]irieCOCO 162 points163 points164 points  (12 children)
Liberalism 101: All the stuff I personally like or enjoy is a human right and should be paid for by somebody else. Everything I don't personally like should be banned, including speech and thought that I don't approve of.
That's it. That's their entire core philosophy right there. Throw in 'virtue signaling is the greatest thing a person can do and victimhood in the pinnacle of achievement' and you know all there is to know about them.
[–]SirPepeALotENG 31 points32 points33 points  (6 children)
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All the stuff I personally like or enjoy is a human right and should be paid for by somebody else. Everything I don't personally like should be banned, including speech and thought that I don't approve of.
If a child exhibited this attitude in its own way, how would that be classified? Personality disorder? Serious question. Anyone?
[–]welcome2screwston 18 points19 points20 points  (1 child)
It sounds like narcissism but on a less personal level.
[–]MAGAmanBattleNetworkCA 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
That's absolutely NPD, with a pinch of antisocial personality disorder, since they have absolutely no regards or even a concept that they might be hurting other people with their demands.
[–]0fficerNastyРЕДКИЕ 122 points123 points124 points  (42 children)
Free healthcare kills the incentive to remain healthy.
Free college kills the incentive to give a shit about studying.
This is why America is plummeting and what Trump is destined to fix.
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    [–]thesynodNJ 30 points31 points32 points  (2 children)
    You're entitled to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
    You have a right to freely express yourself, practice your faith, redress your government, to be secure in your home and in your papers, you have a right to bear arms, and you have a right to a jury of your peers.
    All things Obama disregards. They invent entitlements while ignoring constitutional rights.
    [–]VV4rri0R_IVI0Nk 10 points11 points12 points  (0 children)
    This^ let's not forget our certain unalienable rights endowed upon all men by the creator
    [–]filewulfAZ 86 points87 points88 points  (14 children)
    It also makes degrees worthless
    [–]Lens_of_HistoryUSA 60 points61 points62 points  (9 children)
    College diplomas are basically now the equivalent of old high school diplomas since they are nearly ubiquitous (at least in certain fields). Except now you get a buttload of debt with your sheepskin, and hopefully you were wise enough to major in a useful field.
    Not to mention the loans associated with getting advanced degrees for oversaturated professions
    [–]heepsterdTN 36 points37 points38 points  (6 children)
    Agreed. I got a BS degree in 1985 and shortly after had to find work without the aid of my 5 years of hard study. It was a total waste of time. Yet our culture demands you have a degree. You MUST go to college. Well I'm here to tell you (mostly but not in all cases) don't waste your time and money. 30 years later my son gradutes with honors and a Master's Degree. So what is he doing two years later? Working minimum wage paying off a massive college loan. No wonder they make it seem like you're a loser if you don't go to college. They get too much of a return on poor students to say otherwise. And don't even get me started on the text book scam on the collegiate level. What we need are real jobs that earn good money. We are counting on the Don for help us help ourselves. My diploma doesn't even make good butt wipe.
    [–]Toughsky_ShitskyRUS 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
    Best advise to high school seniors today is trade school.
    2 years of school + 2 years paid apprenticeship = the best debt-free career start.
    Plumbers, electricians, dry-wallers, roofers, HVAC, auto/airplane/machine mechanics.
    These trades make GOOD MONEY just 2-3 years out of trade school ... and you don't have $100,000 in debt to pay off.
    [–]aangler100MI 11 points12 points13 points  (0 children)
    exactly right. ask the question, how much is a free education worth? how much is free health care worth? Zero, in both cases.
    [–]owlcreekbridgeUSA 34 points35 points36 points  (3 children)
    'Member when getting good grades was the actual prerequisite to "getting into college"? Of course, that was before "political correctness", "affirmative action" and trophies for everyone...
    [–]nofacebookaccount 8 points9 points10 points  (0 children)
    Free college for that little snot Moretz who didn't think SHE should have to pay for a college education. She wants us taxpayers to pay for it. What she didn't realize is that people with money like her aren't the ones that the progressives want to give a free college education to.
    [–]richardtheassassin 37 points38 points39 points  (8 children)
    Nobody has ever tried Real SocialismTM !!!
    [–]predator2811CZE 27 points28 points29 points  (3 children)
    Well, those of us older than 40 living east of the former Iron Curtain have certain experience. It made me lifelong enemy of the left / "progressives" and champion of freedom, gun rights and things like that.
    [–]richmomzTX 6 points7 points8 points  (1 child)
    Former Warsaw-pact resident here - nothing makes me laugh like libtards trying to sell their snowflake faculty-lounge version of socialism/communism. When you try to explain to these idiots how these styles of government actually operate from first-hand experience they just dismiss it as "fake socialism." lol
    [–]BarackHusseinBobamaUSA 67 points68 points69 points  (24 children)
    They have a lot of power that they are taking for granted. My company released internal news articles after the election warning about behavior on social media and liberal diversity talking points. I talked to my friends in other large companies and most of them said the same thing happened there as well. The HR threat is real - whether it has teeth or not is a question that silences people.
    [–]throwgammaway111 74 points75 points76 points  (5 children)
    That threat works both ways. This is another case of "make them live by their own rules."
    If you're not on an executive career path where you have to worry about promotions, you've got just as much power as they do. The liberal power from the HR department comes because only liberals are whining and making complaints. If liberals at your company do this, then you as a conservative should be doing the same damned thing. Just memorize these three simple words: "hostile work environment."
    Say them to the HR department, and they will instantly start taking your complaint very, very seriously. They will pull the person in and talk to them. If they do it again, complain again. If they find out it's you, complain about that.
    Did someone make a nasty comment about straight white males? "They made a racially charged comment, I feel like it's a hostile work environment."
    Did they snark about how all lives matter is racist? "Hostile work environment."
    Did they call Trump Drumpf? "Ethnic slur against my German heritage, hostile work environment."
    This works for liberals as a tactic. It shuts down all discussion of anything they're complaining about, because the company will be too afraid of lawsuits. And it basically makes you un-fireable, because you're creating a paper trail that would make the company freak out to even think about it. So if you have to sit there and police your thoughts, why shouldn't liberals, too?
    [–]golfrinserepeatMO 26 points27 points28 points  (7 children)
    One of the few democrat friends my wife and I hang out with regularly, she's the GF of a very good friend of ours (and a Trump supporter.) She is a big Hillary fan/Democrat and head of HR at a large corporation. So, yeah...
    [–]FatStig 23 points24 points25 points  (1 child)
    HR is the clearinghouse to satisfy affirmative action.
    [–]golfrinserepeatMO 9 points10 points11 points  (0 children)
    For what it's worth, from my conversations with her, she seems to be pretty no-nonsense and doesn't really seem to be overly PC. If anything, she seems to do everything her corporate bosses want her to (protect the corporation at all costs...)
    [–]bad_virus 5 points6 points7 points  (2 children)
    I work at a pretty large firm and all of our top HR folks are women, Muslim, and uhh I guess minorities? We received a post-trump election Email as well. Fucking joke. Especially since our company is based as hell with the exception of HR.
    [–]nofacebookaccount 9 points10 points11 points  (5 children)
    Well, then it's time to take these companies to court since they are oppressing their workers rights to free speech, a novel idea that last I heard was still in the constitution.
    It's time to bring this country back to where the constitution actually means something and is upheld.
    [–]thesynodNJ 9 points10 points11 points  (1 child)
    HR is the most useless group in any corporation. They are more worried about "fits" instead of skills. I don't care if the new hire is grumpy and antisocial. Can they type? Can they work remotely without a field visit from IT and a million phone calls? Ca they print an excel file without help?
    [–]BingBongGoneSexualCA 50 points51 points52 points  (1 child)
    Everything is a required performance to Hollywood.
    There is very little reality and whenever I hear them speak, all I see is Patrick Bateman.

    EDIT: Meryl Streep is Tʜᴇ Cᴏᴜʀᴛ Jᴇsᴛᴇʀ

    [–]Toughsky_ShitskyRUS 40 points41 points42 points  (1 child)
    Virtue signaling is like the loser girl in high school with the shiny new beemer that daddy just bought her. Now she's the most popular pig in school ... and she's really nothing but a poseur.
    Time to grow up, libtards.
    [–]OhNoBearIsDrivingUSA 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
    amy schumer?
    [–]PastorBlingBling 35 points36 points37 points  (12 children)
    Christianity is coming back. Once we get rid of our "Rino" problem. We need a T_D to deal with "fake preachers".
    The worst cucks are at the pulpit.
    [–]Donny_J_TrumpNY 19 points20 points21 points  (4 children)
    Amen, 70% of Christians in the US.
    The real enemy of degeneracy is Christianity, the real foundation behind western civilization is Christianity.
    Never forget that.
    [–]nairebisCA 15 points16 points17 points  (1 child)
    I respect your opinion on this, but I disagree. There are a lot of good things about Christians, but you have to look in the mirror and recognize that there's reason Millennials have been repelled by the GOP, and it's the bad Christians who use it as a tool of oppression. The GOP using a twisted form of Christianity as a means of control is the flipside of Liberalism.
    Trump openly embracing gay people and putting an openly gay man on stage at the GOP was one of the most visible signs of casting out the "twisted Christians" who push too much bigotry. Yes, bigotry. Only by admitting it can we cast it out. Leftists don't admit their bigotry, but we should. Christianity is not intrinsically a religion of oppression; in fact, there are numerous lines in the bible about not judging, about Christ mixing with the sinners, etc. But there are way too many Christian who don't practice that.
    The evangelical right was one of the reasons I left the GOP. Trump and his "big tent of love" is what made me come back.
    The country was founded on secularism and religious freedom. We should embrace private worship, not pummel people with public worship.
    [–]riograndekingtrudeCO 199 points200 points201 points  (36 children)
    Don't forget about TREVOR NOAH
    A COMPLETE IDIOT
    [–]OldWestGunslingerNY 146 points147 points148 points  (1 child)
    We can't forget what has never been relevant.
    [–]HexezWorkCA 120 points121 points122 points  (16 children)
    A South African (probably the most racist developed nation in the world) comedian hosts a US political comedy show to tell us were all racist.
    That'll work.
    [–]OldWestGunslingerNY 51 points52 points53 points  (14 children)
    Stewart is one of us. Noah is a foreigner from a country that isn't even half as good as the USA talking down to us from his high horse.
    [–]0piat3 43 points44 points45 points  (4 children)
    That is the biggest thing.
    Jon Stewart is as American as you can get.
    You may not like him or his political beliefs, but he has every right to whine and moan on TV.
    Getting someone from a different country to point fingers and laugh and tell us how stupid we are just doesn't work.
    Could you imagine a fat guy from the woods of Mississippi hosting a TV show somewhere in Africa? Telling them how dumb they are and how ridiculously laughable their country is?
    [–]-HarryManback-USA 13 points14 points15 points  (0 children)
    Only the West allows such cuckery.
    [–]cucks_banned_meAUT 25 points26 points27 points  (8 children)
    tbh I'll take Noah over Stewart any day. Noah = punchable-faced nobody, Stewart = dangerous demagogue
    [–]PooloolooAZ 8 points9 points10 points  (1 child)
    Nah Stewart at the end of the day always wanted to de escalate. He clearly saw himself as a member of the old school blue collar working class New Jersey type of civic nationalist who wanted unions and good products made in America.
    Noah represents the nu left and identity politics, things that Jon Stewart and his generation are simply not even aware of.
    [–]XSplain 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
    Stewart was less of a shill. He destroyed his long time friend, Weiner and wasn't afraid to call out democrats. He was absolutely biased (who isn't) but he had standards. He even tried that appeal to sanity thing to tone down rhetoric because he saw how it was getting out of control. And he was right. Terms like "racist" have lost all meaning thanks to overuse. He also murdered CNN on a regular basis.
    Noah is a living Hillary commercial, complete with literally trying to convince Bernouts how they should vote for her instead of telling jokes. He's the biggest shill I've ever seen.
    [–]brodamonMD 15 points16 points17 points  (0 children)
    but that accent! everyone with that accent must be a genius /s
    [–]kabajingaiJPN 9 points10 points11 points  (0 children)
    I used to live with a Saffa in London and he used to think the guy was pretty funny. (And tbh when he does stand-up about South African stuff - he is generally very funny.)
    But I think he should have given US politics a wide-berth. He's sorta killing his career right now, which up until his Daily Show nonsense had been on a very nice upward trajectory.
    [–]briaen 10 points11 points12 points  (1 child)
    As a fan of the daily shows early days. I don't even crack a smile at Noah. He made his appearance as a co-host doing some joke about Ebola in Africa and how stupid Americans were who wanted to stop travel from Africa. It was so unoriginal and not funny, I was surprised they kept him.
    [–]TrueBlue41IN 304 points305 points306 points  (15 children)
    Great length 👌👌👌👌
    [–]Campellarino 118 points119 points120 points  (8 children)
    we have the best length, don't we folks?
    [–]pottymouthpaco 80 points81 points82 points  (4 children)
    Despite its impressive length, it's a nimble navigator!
    [–]SeriouslyWTFIsNamek 37 points38 points39 points  (3 children)
    and some can be highly venomous!
    [–]noodleslipNC 19 points20 points21 points  (0 children)
    Trust me, we don't have any issues in that area.
    [–]IEngUSA 19 points20 points21 points  (1 child)
    It's always the right length.
    [–]maciasusnNAVY 21 points22 points23 points  (1 child)
    And Girth
    [–]bingbongbalboRUS 13 points14 points15 points  (0 children)
    And that's what is important, really.
    [–]vvfs-RUS 18 points19 points20 points  (0 children)

    impressive girth

    [–]richardleosimonesMN 10 points11 points12 points  (0 children)

    IMPRESSIVE LENGTH

    [–]HashtagOwnage 352 points353 points354 points  (79 children)
    Coming from a staunch follower of "long-dead Christianity", I can respect the notion that Trump has reinvented the culture in a powerful way, by acting in a way that's real and honest instead of fake. For what it's worth, I think the same has happened to the Christian church at large in America: It's become too inundated with its own culture instead of teaching its members to be dedicated disciples of Jesus Christ.
    To real America!
    [–]rumbletubble 92 points93 points94 points  (19 children)

    86% of Evangelicals voted for TRUMP/Pence

    Probably the highest percentage of any group that voted for Mr. Trump.
    If you think about it, a lot of Christians voted for Mr. Trump.
    [–]JoanOfArk77OH 57 points58 points59 points  (1 child)
    Actually, Trump won because of the largest Christian vote so far in American history. I agree with the writer to a degree, but, when he claims Christianity is dead, he is wrong. Christianity is leaving the churches controlled by homeland security, and is in fact taking on it's most powerful historical house church form as it does often in history during times of persecution. The war on Christianity had been going on in the US for a while now.
    Christianity and Marxism are clear enemies. The government and non Christians will make the same historical mistake they always do. They will look around at the empty churches and conclude Christianity is dead.
    [–]Stupidlizardface 37 points38 points39 points  (0 children)
    That's a lot of prayer given to these two great men.
    [–]SirPepeALotENG 15 points16 points17 points  (10 children)
    wonder what %age of atheists voted for HRC.
    but some of them do come on here and basically make it clear they want us out or silent as they think the GOP belongs to them now.
    ok. lol
    whilst we were fighting Obama and being called bitter clingers, they were cheering him on and mocking us.
    but they want us silent.
    [–]JohnTheDeplorableIN 8 points9 points10 points  (0 children)
    They will never silence the true church. One thing we have always had and will continue to have that makes us different then islam, different then the pretenders is an actual god. Not just made up for the sake of controlling the masses but a real power watching down and giving the kind of guidance we need to fix this great nation.
    [–]Daniel_USAUSA 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
    We shall take back Jerusalem!
    [–]MrInternetDetectiveWI 22 points23 points24 points  (0 children)
    The symbolic significance of 7 in the bible, the number of 7's relating to Trump on inauguration day, and the revelation of Hillary's satanic connections all make me believe that God has had enough of sitting on the sidelines. Devine Donald Intervention baby.
    [–]FarmerPepeMO 92 points93 points94 points  (14 children)
    Hear, hear! The Truth will set you free.
    [–]CantContheDonMAGA 58 points59 points60 points  (13 children)
    The problem with Christianity is that it allowed itself to become cucked by the left. 'Jesus taught you to love everyone unconditionally' for example, and changing the message to tolerance, inclusion, socialism.
    I'm hoping they can wake up and start defending their neighbors instead of spending money on the third world.
    [–]Into_the_rabbit_holeOK 35 points36 points37 points  (5 children)
    As a Christian, I feel like a lot of the problem is that they think they have to hand everything out for free to feel Christian. Charity, etc. Which don't get me wrong, I absolutely believe in charity and try to give it regularly. But like everything else, there is a line.
    I don't believe Jesus thought everything should be spoon fed, even He was a carpenter. Spare the rod, spoil the child and all that. You can't bribe your way into heaven, you have to earn it.
    But that's just my two cents.
    [–]Mikerwolski 43 points44 points45 points  (1 child)
    You don't earn your way into heaven. True Christianity isn't a works based faith. The gift of Grace is a free one that shows us there is nothing we can do to earn favor in God's eyes. It took His Son dying a sinner's death for us to be covered so we may be deemed righteous in His eyes.
    “A man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus . . . since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified” (Galatians 2:16)
    [–]kaiotoAZ 10 points11 points12 points  (0 children)
    “
    I absolutely believe in charity and try to give it regularly. But like everything else, there is a line.
    The line is that taking things from your neighbor's pocket and "redistributing" it isn't Charity - it's Theft. But it's so much easier to spend someone else's money and hire proxies to keep the poor docile and our of sight than it is to engage in the messy business of actual Charity.
    “
    You can't bribe your way into heaven, you have to earn it.
    Nobody can earn or bribe their way into heaven, because nobody can repay the debt owed from our sin but Christ. The requirement is to follow Him, and to follow Him naturally demands works in the course of living out your faith. A faith that never demands or requires works is a dead faith, after all.
    [–]Stupidlizardface 35 points36 points37 points  (2 children)
    Christianity is about to undergo a revolution similar to what's happening in this country, and it's going to reflect what we have here.
    We sit on the cusp of greatness in so many areas.
    [–]HighHorseHenryLee 21 points22 points23 points  (0 children)
    That's the kind of strength Romney didn't have. No evangelical Christian was going to vote for a PC Mormon. Trump stood up to political correctness, which is downright Satanic for evangelicals.
    [–]GOREGOATPA 12 points13 points14 points  (0 children)
    “
    It's become too inundated with its own culture instead of teaching its members to be dedicated disciples of Jesus Christ
    A verse I've been thinking about a lot in reference to that exact notion, this was Jesus speaking to the Pharisees
    “
    6 He said to them, “Isaiah prophesied rightly about you hypocrites, as it is written, ‘This people honors me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me; 7 in vain do they worship me, teaching human precepts as doctrines.’
    [–]Neuermann 38 points39 points40 points  (26 children)
    This is so true. I want to go to church, but every time I attend one it feels like a damn cupcake.
    Soft, sweet, easy to eat, can be devoured in one sitting, but no nutritional value.
    I want a church that confronts the rough issues of life, that doesn't sugar coat it, and is damn pissed off.
    The whole safe space thing and acceptance of everything we have now in our culture isn't new to the Christian church. They have become a sanitized culture free from sexism, intolerance, and racism long before our culture did.
    This cultural Marxism we have now neutered the Christian church years ago, so that it doesn't compete with the leftist culture, but rather promotes it.
    Men should be at the head of the family, period. It is written that way in the Bible, and it is naturally supposed to be like that in the world. (God created man in his own image, but God created woman in man's image) However, say that shit out loud to anyone in a church or to any of your female Christian relatives and see how it goes over.
    [–]dicemazeTN 22 points23 points24 points  (1 child)
    I go to a church in TN, about 30-40 minutes outside of Nashville. Our preacher is very politically and socially involved in the real world. He actually got a chance to open congress in prayer. He is NOT a cupcake and neither is our church. He raises his voice. He cries. He speaks truth, even when it isn't socially acceptable, or it might offend people in the crowd. He had a sermon on revelation and old-testament prophecies regarding the middle-east, and the domestic threat Islam causes. He had a sermon on how as christians we were to procede after gay marriage was legalized (not that he was against it politically--separation of church and state. But still). He denounced Hillary one time. We have church-wide fasts. A strong church with a genuine pastor and a all-in congregation is hard to find, but when you find it, you will witness the true freeing and transformative power of Christianity, and it is amazing.
    [–]ph1ghtAL 21 points22 points23 points  (4 children)
    I'm not sure that I want a church that is pissed off, but I definitively want a church that will face issues head on, talk about real issues, and be authentic. However, the gem of Christianity is that uniformity does not mean conformity. There are many different churches and many different expressions of the same core beliefs.
    [–]kaiotoAZ 14 points15 points16 points  (3 children)
    Eh, "Cultural Christianity" in the U.S. (theologically weak, populist, light on church attendance) is certainly a dying thing. The culture of paying lip-service to Jesus and doing whatever makes you feel happy had its hey-day with sketch televangelism and high-turnover mega-churches. Ultimately it lead to a self-centered populist notion of "good" that bled everyone over to the Blue Team Progressivism Church.
    That's not to say that Christianity is defunct or dying, but rather that the churches focused on Christian Orthodoxy as opposed to pop-culture nonsense are a counter-culture in the U.S.
    [–]Die-Kolonie 271 points272 points273 points  (25 children)
    Their sick pedo club is about to be exposed. That's why.
    [–]Leatherwood123TN 97 points98 points99 points  (14 children)
    That's the common link for sure. Always wondered about it til Podesta educated me.
    [–]SoupIsNotAMealUSA 58 points59 points60 points  (13 children)
    Here's something I learned recently: Podesta is Italian for Pedophile.
    [–]aveydeyRUS 29 points30 points31 points  (6 children)
    lol that's funny! I actually googled to find out if that was true and it turns out Podesta was a title for a chief magistrate during the Middle Ages. Also the title of a mayor appointed during the fascist reign over Italy.
    I find that interesting because of John and Tony Podesta's station in life...
    [–]SoupIsNotAMealUSA 69 points70 points71 points  (3 children)

    Congratulations, you've done more research than BuzzFeed!

    [–]threeslapsCA 20 points21 points22 points  (2 children)
    somehow there needs to be a bot for this..
    [–]rigbed 11 points12 points13 points  (5 children)
    Italian for pedophile is pedofilo
    [–]Daniel_USAUSA 27 points28 points29 points  (3 children)
    Hollywood grooms children to be scared of those with wealth.
    That is why the citizens voted for Trump!
    The majority of us just 'don't want any problems'. That is because we don't have the income to actually go to court and defend ourselves and raise a family at the same time. We grow up knowing that we would be in thousands of dollars in debt if we tried!
    We actually have to sacrifice. Something Hollywood knows nothing of.
    [–]nofacebookaccount 9 points10 points11 points  (1 child)
    Yeah, she lectures us while wearing a givenchy gown and million dollar earrings. So out of touch.
    [–]vvfs-RUS 17 points18 points19 points  (0 children)
    Yes. Everyone watch An Open Secret on YouTube. https://youtu.be/4eeGX4SlF1s
    [–]AlexJonesHasAIDSAZ 19 points20 points21 points  (1 child)
    Hollywood has a HUGE undisclosed pedo industry. That would be a far bigger disaster than the HUAC blacklist.
    [–]FootballJedi 13 points14 points15 points  (1 child)
    Yeah they are like cornered animals right now lashing out the walls are closing in on them and it will be their sick addictions that bring them down.
    [–]MasterCuckLordSoros 142 points143 points144 points  (5 children)
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    [–]Toughsky_ShitskyRUS 27 points28 points29 points  (3 children)
    Excellent summary of what's going on.
    Entertainment whores, like Streep, are losing their influence over the mind-numbed populace.
    Just look at TV and movies: reality shows (no actors) and remakes (nothing new to offer).
    New media is full of talent in REAL people. I flip through YouTube and Reddit and see the most interesting shit ever.
    The entertainment "business" is changing ... RAPIDLY.
    And the usual idiots/children in Hollywood don't like that one bit.
    [–]BingBongGoneSexualCA 64 points65 points66 points  (2 children)
    When Hollywood isn't hardcore enough, they "ascend" to Scientology, Spirit Cooking, etc.
    That entire bubble is a cult that must now lobby for itself because the Trump movement doesn't need them and everyone else has moved on to the assembly line called Netflix.
    It's a spectacular fucking show.
    [–]vestasunUSA 36 points37 points38 points  (1 child)
    Reminds me of the decadence and hedonism of Caligula's and Nero's courts. I guess elites in all cultures need weird rituals and entertainment to reinforce their exclusiveness.
    Btw, the email leaks about spirit cooking did to the Podesta freaks what the Superman radio program did to the Klan: demystify them to the point of ridicule. That's how you win, and that's why meme magic fucking works.
    [–]WowStrongArms 17 points18 points19 points  (0 children)
    It's ironic but the direction of "progressivism" is really in the direction of barbaric Roman antiquity.
    [–]SwggrBck 24 points25 points26 points  (2 children)
    It really is a religion. Being white is the original sin and the only way to purge that sin is to check your privilege. How they don't see those parallels is astonishing. Hell, I'm a liberal and I figured it out long before this election season
    [–]FatStig 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
    Don't forget their Revelations....climate change.
    [–]redfallhammerUSA 88 points89 points90 points  (18 children)
    Liberalism is a religion. I never noticed the correlation until this post. It explains their behavior so well! They are essentially no different than Westboro people.
    [–]MAGA_MEGA_MANWA 51 points52 points53 points  (2 children)
    People NEED to belong to something greater than themselves that gives them a purpose. They rejected Christianity, but have replaced it with a new religion: cultural marxism. They do everything a religion does: try to convert people, shun nonbelievers, attend regularly scheduled congregations (protests), follow their priests' teachings (MSM, TV shows, movies).
    [–]KRosen333 44 points45 points46 points  (5 children)
    Actually its progressivism and its not religion but a cult.
    [–]quinewave 16 points17 points18 points  (2 children)
    The only difference between religions and cults is age and marketing.
    [–]Centi_Fan 15 points16 points17 points  (0 children)
    That's why they freaked out so badly when Hillary lost. Their God went down, their belief system was shattered and to them it felt like Satan was now in charge.
    [–]are_you_sure__NY 21 points22 points23 points  (2 children)
    Yup, Ben Shapiro also was talking about this. Since they are all atheist, they don't have a central church, so they pray to the halls of Hollywood and culture that vindicates them and vilifies their enemies.
    Spez: Virtue signaling is "Amen" to them. Like Christians will signal their love of the Lord, they signal their love to berate perceived racist/misogynists.
    [–]zachsandbergTX 11 points12 points13 points  (1 child)
    I'm an atheist, and only want to MAGA.
    [–]UndercoverGovernorOH 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
    I once got doenvoted to hell for saying this years ago. They were definitely sensitive to it already by the time I said it.
    [–]rollcyclonesIA 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
    I thought about making a post about the left being a church and that being the reason the left is freaking out. We don't worship the government and when Obama won we just hunkered down and waited. They have nothing else to worship being proud atheists and saw their whole world view challenged and losing was too much for them. But I'm not the best writer, glad someone stepped up and wrote it.
    [–]tholinzTX 22 points23 points24 points  (2 children)
    This is probably the best encapsulation of the problem that I've read in a long time. You should send this to Breitbart or American Thinker.
    One thing I noticed: Trump didn't create the new "red" religion. He was able to re-state traditional American values without overt Christian traditionalism, while still respecting that tradition (which is crazy but very cool). In so doing, he took the Left's main hammer away, namely, that this is only about the nutty evangelicals. Honestly, the founding fathers were almost all Christian of various persuasions, but they saw the values of this country and the Constitution as the ideal value system for all mankind, regardless of religion.
    [–]znelson32PA 41 points42 points43 points  (0 children)
    Wise. On-point. Genius.
    [–]CRFlixxxTX 61 points62 points63 points  (1 child)
    Well said, but it's even simpler than that. They hate Trump because they know how effective and victorious a fighter he is. They've never seen his like and on at least a subconcious level, they know they can't beat him.
    That's why they're so unhinged.
    [–]IvaginaryfriendRUSSIAN SPY 37 points38 points39 points  (0 children)
    Thanks for writing this up 'Pede! really good read - I can feel the cucks literally shaking already!
    [–]OldWestGunslingerNY 16 points17 points18 points  (1 child)
    We're in the middle of an ongoing political shift. There have now been 7 political eras in US history. 1st, Jefferson-Hamilton era. 2nd, Andrew Jackson era. 3rd, Lincoln era. 4th, William McKinley-Theodore Roosevelt era. 5th, FDR era. 6th, Reagan era. 7th, Trump era.
    [–]Goddamn_BatmanCA 18 points19 points20 points  (2 children)
    i disagree on one thing. you're right that the blue sees their 'side' as a religion. that's why they're so quick to unfriend you, block you, or denounce you if you don't follow their religion.
    we're not though. we're not petty or mindless or zealots. i won't disown lifelong friends for disagreeing with me, i won't hate actors or bands for not aligning with my point of view. we want what's best for america, but it's not a religion. we're citizens, not cult followers. and donald or anyone else better believe we'll turn on them if they sell us out to globalists, give away our jobs and livelihoods or in general don't have the best interests in mind for our families. the left wouldnt do that though, they're brainwashed.
    [–]kagami77WA 37 points38 points39 points  (0 children)

    IMPRESSIVE LENGTH.

    Both the media and hollywood are scared because the American people have finally found someone who are willing to stand up to them and fight back on equal footing. Trump knows how to command an audience, and speak directly to them, so the "soft power" that the media and hollywood possess is increasingly diminishing.
    [–]ChicagoIceRUS[🍰] 27 points28 points29 points  (0 children)
    This is the "truth to power" they don't want to hear about.
    [–]oxygenfortrumpMAGA 11 points12 points13 points  (0 children)
    the real reason why i think(i know) they are freaking out is because of the liberal narrative they have been building up for over 2 decades are crumbling
    [–]chim_richels 37 points38 points39 points  (3 children)
    Thick. Solid. Tight. 'mirin.
    [–]FitFinanceFellaCA 12 points13 points14 points  (1 child)
    Fuark! Aware brah is aware.
    [–]Dualpurposeapple 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    I forgot I was aware, until I was reminded of being able to be aware. Three fitty upvotes.
    [–]TrumpsSentientHair 11 points12 points13 points  (2 children)
    GIVE ME TRUMP OR GIVE ME TRUMP
    [–]SoupIsNotAMealUSA 15 points16 points17 points  (1 child)
    I have considered the options and decided to GIVE YOU TRUMP
    [–]EightTFNY 13 points14 points15 points  (0 children)
    It's because they'll have to clean their own house and take of their own kids. That's really their entire interaction with immigrants. Even Meryl Streep just rambled on like we where going to deport Amy Adams. I grew up a few miles away from Rosie O'Donnell in NY. I was friendly with her Irish nanny and met her kids a ton of times years ago. The daughter running away was the least surprising thing ever. I saw her one time in town to grab them and she was a fucking slob. The makeup artists at The View deserved the real lifetime achievement award.
    [–]vestasunUSA 26 points27 points28 points  (1 child)
    This post is based AF.
    To your points I'll add this: the cucks in Hollywood and the old media are coming to terms with their impending irrelevance. We own the memes of production now.
    The centralized media-industrial complex is giving way to radical decentralization. No more useless intermediaries like Wolf Blitzer giving us the """news."""
    Nothing's more hostile to Marxism than decentralization, sharing, creating, and good spirits. The new media landscape, IMHO, is inherently against Marxism, whatever it ultimately creates. (This is also why the unionized Marxists running the public schools are so afraid of school vouchers, e-learning, etc.)
    Trump's greatest accomplishment is showing millions of everyday people how the emperors have no clothes. Those of us red pilled long ago already knew this, of course, but it took someone like Trump to awaken the masses.
    [–]Walrus_ToothGA 29 points30 points31 points  (1 child)
    Very accurate on the religious angle. The Left never gave up on religion, they just changed to a more modern one.
    And Trump's a threat to the Church.
    [–]AdultDoseCAN 29 points30 points31 points  (0 children)
    “
    not an explicit religious faith like long-dead Christianity...
    Come on. I almost took this seriously.
    [–]StraisUSA 9 points10 points11 points  (0 children)
    I get the feeling you don't like Christians, twice saying its a dead religion. While I would argue the "religion" word, saying it's dead is a miss step and a slap in the face for everyone that shares this places views. Christianity isn't dead, it's not on decline, and honestly through the last decade of so it's been dropping a lot of the man-made crap. Getting back to the roots, and reading the words of the bible instead of interpretations of interpretations; back out in the field spreading the word.
    I agree with a bit of what you're saying but you seem to be forcing the agenda of the "new" counter culture and actively dismissing the age old church. Yes the "Blue Church" is a control mechanism that's been groomed to permeate through any TV show on now days but dismissing The Church just because it's not new is virtually the same problem the blue has.
    [–]TolandsKinPD 22 points23 points24 points  (14 children)
    I agree with 99% of what you said. It was well written and made some exceptional points. But "long-dead Christianity"? Don't be retarded, OP.
    [–]sh2003WA 14 points15 points16 points  (0 children)
    Blue faith was also caught trying to rewrite their bible to include hot tub parties with little children and satanic worshiping rituals. Their alleged high priestess caught sending thank you notes to the owner of Comet Pizza. Quite the high ranking pizza shop to be getting letters from a former first lady and senator.
    They brought their best, but we brought better.
    [–]HighHorseHenryLee 6 points7 points8 points  (3 children)
    I'm a reader of the Bible, and I'm very conservative, but I'm non denominational, and I don't attend church. The kind of denominational "establishment" Christianity we're familiar with, will fade and die. People should look into authors like G.K. Chesterton and C.S. Lewis rather than televangelists who dumb down everything and beg for money.
    [–]caesarfecitUSA 8 points9 points10 points  (2 children)
    “
    Watching a 90-pound Sci-Fi heroine beat up a room full of giant evil men is as satisfying to the left as John Wayne westerns were for the right.
    Take that Joss Whedon. It simply boggles my mind that such a cuck could make something as libertarianly awesome as Firefly. Similar to how a guy like Springsteen could support Crooked Hillary over an all-about-the-working-class Trump.
    “
    Jon Stewart and John Oliver are basically TV preachers. Watching them gives the same sense of quiet superiority your grandma gets from watching The 700 Club. The messages are constantly reinforced, providing that lovely dopamine hit, like an angel's voice whispering, "You're right, you're better, you're winning."
    Yup exactly. That's why the left had multiple orgasms when Jon Stewart used high-road trolling on Tucker Carlson. His position was hypocritical, and his arguments were trivial at best, but the left loved a snarky lefty posturing as morally superior to the right's warlord of debate.
    “
    Hollywood award shows are like church talent shows - the skits and jokes aren't really funny, but it's fun to look at the pretty girls, and you're all on the same team.
    Interesting analogy, especially as we can expect more and more political rants/sermons at award shows in the future. Hence why I stopped watching them a long time ago. I think it was Michael Moore's original rant that did it for me.
    “
    Red Conservativism is a business, selling a set of political products. They don't make you feel good, they don't appeal to your morality or your spiritual sense of self, but sometimes you really NEED one of their core products like security, jobs, or national defense. Their appeals to "freedom" and "family values" ring hollow these days, but when people are flying planes into buildings, you need a strong member of Conservatism, Inc. in the big chair.
    That isn't totally fair, as the Right draped it self in religious moral superiority ever since Roe v Wade. That's why Trump was such a big deal for Republicans. He broke the stranglehold the two biggest pressure groups (the GOPe and the religious right) had on Republican debate, and opened the door for the GOP to trend towards pragmatic libertarianism.
    “
    But now the bad kids are getting bolder, posting funny memes that make you laugh even though John Oliver would not approve, like passing crude dirty pictures under the table in Sunday School.
    There is a new faith rising on the right, not an explicit religious faith like long-dead Christianity, but a wicked kind of counterculture movement. We laughed at the hippies in 1968, but by 1978 they were teaching in classrooms and sitting behind school administrator desks.
    This. We are the counter-culture now, and we are ascendant.
    “
    Sam Hyde tried it on Adult Swim, but that was just the early prototype, like Mad Magazine was for the left. There will be many others after him, and they won't be stopped by network filters. They'll come "out of nowhere" on the web, from the secret places that the inquisitors at Google can't shut down.
    Precisely. The cutting edge of culture is now online. Hollywood has been outflanked and is now irrelevant. It started with Drudge. Then Breitbart, Netflix and Youtube. Quite frankly, I'm suprised that the music and publishing industries aren't facing serious online competition, the way the film studios, TV, and print journalism are now.
    [–]wheels0132 30 points31 points32 points  (4 children)
    I agree with everything you said except for the denigration of Christianity. A strong moral compass exists with the faithful, and morality is rapidly getting buried by the present times.
    The Christian bloc overwhelmingly voted for Trump, not because he's a guiding light for morality, but because of his great ideas for the recovery of this nation; and Hillary is certainly not a Christian- although she pretends to be.
    So, calling Christianity "long dead" is inaccurate. If a very pious Christian were running on the Democratic ticket (unlikely, because Blue-Dogs are almost an extinct breed) than they would certainly pull away a sizable portion of the Christian electorate.
    [–]ApolloTerminusCA 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
    Can confirm. Hollywood here.
    [–]SilverBackTrumpAZ 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
    I actually was discussing something related to this with a friend the other day. There is an opening for a massive cultural shift in entertainment right now. I think particularly in the comedy world. Look at the cucks who are hosting all the late night TV shows and in SNL and in most of the comedies now. Look how flatly the world rejected the Ghostbusters remake disaster.
    [–]kabajingaiJPN 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
    “
    The left is used to losing political battles.
    I disagree, I think the left won the cultural war, which is why they have been emboldened enough to draw huge lines and divisions in society. They know what racism, homophobia and xenophobia is but they have blurred the lines in such a way that it has to be drawn by them - because they were the ones originally advocating for rights of gays and other minorities.
    Now that we have all that and we have a generation who don't feel animosity towards gays or black people, all they can do is virtue signal and make straw men out people that say objective things about current events. They become advocates for their own understanding of what constitutes racism and who in society is deemed racist purely through the lens of their political group.
    This is why Trump holding up an LGBT flag is a homophobe yet flip-flopping Hillary is somehow an advocate for that community.
    We are the counter-culture now. We are the ones standing up and looking to combat the new problems in society. If you wanna see humour, political discussion and creative art - you ain't gonna find it in Hollywood, and you sure as shit ain't gonna find it on the left.
    [–]The_Stool_SampleNAVY 5 points6 points7 points  (1 child)
    As a pede who works in the film industry - this excites me!
    [–]GhostphaezCA 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
    Same here (I'm a pede who lives in Hollywood and sometimes works in the TV industry).
    [–]NosuchRedditor 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
    I disagree with a couple of your points.
    First, Reagan did not stumble into the greatest president in history. There's a reason why he is third or fourth in all time electorial vote victory's. He paved the way for Trump to some degree.
    Second, it's Christian morals that set us apart (above) the left, it's the reason we are civil to each other and them, the reason why after conservative rallies there is little damage or litter, etc.
    I'm not pushing a return to yesterday's Christian rigidness, but you are dismissing one of the most important differences between us and them, without which we would be little different than them.
    The left destroyed the ten commandments, not because of the religious ramifications, but because you can't have a basic set of moral rules if you want all your loyal followers to worship the government and the moral standards it upholds.
    [–]Neuermann 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
    On your notes on Christianity, yes the church is dead. But that is what revivals are all about. And I see it coming with a damn vengeance.
    Trump represents a cultural shift that people long for, even the blue haired snowflakes.
    All of the religious supplements they have now just shows that humans need religion of some kind. And Christianity will be making its comeback.
    [–]MacwellX 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
    Don't forget it was the left that threw God from my classroom. It was the left that decided that an unborn human was of no more worth than a tumor, to be excised at will. It was the left that broke the black family apart. It was the left that started the KKK. It was the left that fought against the Civil Rights Act. It was the democrat convention where they cheered 3 times to reject God from their party. The left can't stand God, or even the concept of God. He's against everything the democrat party believes; Sex & Drugs & Rock & Roll, and if it feels good, do it! I pray to see the end of the democrat party before I go...MAGA!
    [–]ChristianCuberUSMC 15 points16 points17 points  (3 children)
    Nice write-up but what do you have against Christianity? The Faith itself or the countless MEN who abuse it or portray it outside of what it is meant to be? Just a simple question.
    Again nice write-up, I enjoyed reading it and it is spot-on.
    [–]wharfthrowaway 12 points13 points14 points  (2 children)
    I can't wait for all the shame tactics and yelling and crying to go away. Where people can openly state their opinions w/o feeling like they will literally be attacked for it.
    [–]LowBloodHighEnergyRIRI 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
    That will be when we win this culture war. And make no mistake, we will win.
    [–]AlanAmpersand1CA 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
    And I'll be there supporting all of the new conservative people, movements, products, companies, and media! Bring on the based SNL!
    [–]fatcobra7 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
    This gets to the core of what's happening. We all feel it, but a great job of transcribing it, which is often extremely difficult to do.
    [–]clintons_prolapse 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
    TLDR Donald Trump is the American Mohammed and we are the disciples of MAGA. There is only one God Emperor, His name is Kek, his Vessel is Trump.
    [–]nhlroyaltyNY 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
    Excellent. Fuck the Blue Faith.
    [–]OKarizeeUSA 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
    "Politics is downstream from culture."
    -Andrew Breitbart
    [–]TeuthexCAN 5 points6 points7 points  (3 children)
    I fought against Christianity when it had a stranglehold on culture, and I'm fighting against progressivism now because it's today's version of the same thing. That may not win me many points here, but there have been so many comments made about how cult-like social justice is, how being white is treated like original sin, how it creates the same kind of moral crusading... it's the same kind of faith-based thing trying to inflict itself on everyone else, and I'm strongly against anyone having that kind of cultural control.
    I'm not conservative and I probably never will be, but that's only part of what this movement was about. I'm happy to shitpost alongside y'all until this nannying offense-taking victim narrative bullshit is as good as dead.
    [–]WowStrongArms 39 points40 points41 points  (75 children)
    “
    Not the tired old Christian crap
    not an explicit religious faith like long-dead Christianity
    Please tell me more about your animosity towards Christianity.
    If you seriously think that Christianity has died, and that this movement of electing Trump had nothing to with Christian ideology taking a center stage in the rejection of "the blue church", then you're sorely misguided. My bet is that war against liberalism that Christians have been fighting has been going on longer than you've been alive pal.
    [–]Brinflakes 25 points26 points27 points  (12 children)
    His point was that the new conservatism trump is creating isn't based around religion but the national identity. Essentially the Trump conservatism is the American nationalist party, while the left is one for immigrants/refugees over their American counterparts.
    [–]WowStrongArms 15 points16 points17 points  (4 children)
    That's fine, but there is no conflict of interest between being a Christian and national identity as the OP tried to finagle in. It's quite clear that he has a hostile bias against Christianity.
    Let's not forget, if it weren't for the Catholics up north and the evangelicals down south voting in mass for Trump, Trump would have never been elected.
    The rejection of leftist ideology has been at the forefront of Christian ideology for the past 150 years. Both Catholics and Reformed Baptists have led the philosophical charges against the leftist ideologies of post-modernism, deconstructionism, and humanism. It is the winning of the rational Christian philosophical ideas that are the reasoning behind the rejection of the leftist ideology.
    [–]Brinflakes 18 points19 points20 points  (13 children)
    The left won the culture war, which bred a new type of non-religious conservatism
    [–]HimchaseTX 8 points9 points10 points  (0 children)
    True shit, I'm not anti religion, but I find myself in this category.
    [–]Pres-TrumpUSA 26 points27 points28 points  (3 children)
    Yeah I hate the whole anti-Christian thing in this post. If it wasn't for that I'd agree with him.
    [–]Mikerwolski -3 points-2 points-1 points  (0 children)
    He seems to lump catholicism and Christianity into one category. Big difference in works based faith vs grace.
    [–]FatStig -3 points-2 points-1 points  (2 children)
    Acknowledging the current christian church is outdated and cucked isn't anti-christianity. Christianity carried forward the ancient greek philosophers ideas and has a great many good points/wisdom. But it has stagnated and mutated.
    [–]TheToiletStoreINC 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    It's cucked or outdated? We've heard the same old it's outdated and is a cancer and needs to be abolished from the progressives for a long time... from the cucked left. Now they're suddenly lumped in with leftist regressives?
    Spare me this atheism lite garbage. They've been tired of being completely pushed out and unaccepted from the left. And many aren't trying to force all of you to convert. They want whats best for this Country and most picked Trump. And now they are are excluded from the movement because they're cucked lmao.. Sounds like more progressive garbage from the left.
    [–]alamos_basement 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    LOL wut? First off what church? there's a bunch if you haven't noticed. You know what's stagnated? Loser progressives thinking "hurr durr I'm so smart and rational & christianity is so outdated." Anti-social freaks have been jerking off to that since the 1890's.
    [–]neanderhummus 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
    Well, what he's saying is, if you are a Christian and refuse to serve a couple because you disagree with your beliefs, you are going to get sued to oblivion like the Denver Cake Baker.
    Whereas if you are a Progressive and refuse to Serve a Trump Supporter due to Ideological Differences, you are a hero.
    If you disagree because, "it's what Christ said" you are a moron.
    If you disagree because, "It's 2016" you are a comedian.
    [–]notjaffo[S,🍰] 13 points14 points15 points  (4 children)
    I should clarify that. Nothing against Christianity, I really wish it still had cultural power. But we can't keep wishing for it to come back or pretend it's still 1958 somewhere. I think Christianity will come back, once the culture shifts, but the initial energy has to come from something else.
    [–]WowStrongArms 4 points5 points6 points  (2 children)
    I wrote this a few posts above, but I think it applies to this comment as well.
    I think it will continue to be, especially I think if evangelical Christians can distance themselves from the early 1900's anti-science ideas. If more people can see the long history of Christian involvement in science and that there is not a contradiction between the two, then I think Christianity can continue to grow in the US.
    [–]amicuscodexOR 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
    It would help if our schools would "be allowed" to include the influence of Christianity on scientists and inventors, it's always "edited out" even if that person's faith was central to why they were doing what they were doing. The result is the false belief that Christians are never scientists and vice-versa.
    [–]e12012012USA 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    It still has overwhelming cultural power, man. Just cause you don't see it around you doesn't mean it isn't there. This country is still the most religious country in the Western Hemisphere. If you're talking about the old fashioned Tipper Gore style PC religious right, I'd say you're right, it's mostly died off, and good riddance to it.
    But Christianity itself is no less powerful even if it is detested by Hollywood and immigrants.
    [–]AdultDoseCAN 14 points15 points16 points  (9 children)
    I have a feeling OP has a personal beef with the concept of God and Christianity. I pretty much gave up on his opinion after seeing how he was squeezing his bias in there.
    [–]wendysNO1wcheesePA 14 points15 points16 points  (6 children)
    Sometimes the edgy atheist just can’t be stifled.
    [–]AdultDoseCAN 12 points13 points14 points  (5 children)
    One thing I have actually really appreciated, and respected, about this sub is how it respects Christians, and Christianity (and religion, for the most part).
    So it's a little sad seeing posts like this with that sort of language. Everyone has their opinion though, and this is his. Just won't get an upvote from me.
    [–]Zodorova 3 points4 points5 points  (4 children)
    Me too. After seeing Christians get bashed all over reddit (places totally unrelated to religion in any way) it is so nice to have a place where you are ridiculed.
    Edit: with the exception of this post lol
    [–]AdultDoseCAN 2 points3 points4 points  (2 children)
    Agreed. This honestly felt like one of the last few subs where it didn't feel like r/atheism was leaking into. Was nice. That's why this post has thrown me off. On the bright side, I am happy to see a few fellow 'pede's calling them out on it though.
    [–]LustfulLemongrass 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
    It's the pissy child atheism that brings you this. It's weak and unsure of itself and brings that demeanor with it. Had to attack rather than just coexist. Insecurity.
    I'm atheist (I have been for a long time and nothing changed in my behavior from childhood as a christian to adult hood as an atheist. My life as worked out in such a way that I just could not maintain faith. This is my choice and I don't feel the need to push it unto others.) and I will gladly talk with you and respect your views and beliefs so long as you respect me and mine. I love lots of aspects of Christianity. But I simply do not believe in a god. There that might be our main difference. End of the day we both want to see everyone respected and given the freedom to practice our beliefs so long as they are harming anyone.
    Edit: got lost. My point is. I'm glad that I can come here and not see the fucking fedora flipper mouth breathing atheist attacking people because they hold a faith. It makes me sick. Reddit has only gotten worse and worse about this as time goes on. So even as an atheist I love this sub for not being like every other sub on Reddit concerning Christianity.
    [–]LustfulLemongrass 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
    Yeah, I'm an atheist and it was a little too much in my face for my tastes. As long as people respect my choice in rejecting faith, that it is my own personal thing I'm happy. Just like I don't care what you believe I'm going to treat you as you treat me or as I observe you treating others.
    Most christians are people just like myself with different views. There's nothing wrong with that. And I've never had issues with Christian people trying to convert me. They simply stop and leave the offer to talk open after I politely ask them to stop. I simply do not believe. But I totally understand someone else might. As long as we can both get along who cares who's right. Let's keep the common goal to MAGA! No sense in belittling each other over a non issue.
    [–]AdultDoseCAN 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    Couldn't agree more, and as a Christian, I truly appreciate your words. We have differing beliefs, and that is awesome. I'm not going to slam you, your beliefs, or atheism in general, because I don't believe it myself. It's a non-issue to me, as it's always been.
    I would gladly stand by your side as a friend, and fellow Trump supporter, any day. THAT is what the country (and world) need (in my opinion).
    PS, Lemongrass is my favorite flavour. Add it to any stir fry, and it takes it up a few levels.
    [–]Trump_Image_Library 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
    Keep in mind; a lot of what OP sees of Christianity can be filtered through the reality that many of the "famous" Christians aren't exactly great role models. He mentioned TV preachers - this conjures up an image of a false televangelist with a big smile fleecing dummies out of their money. And in many cases, it was/is. I don't want to insult anyone, but if you look back to the 80s especially, there were tons of these scam preachers. Today you have some very slick ones - Joel Osteen to me is one of the more objectionable ones. Everything is so damn slick - the suits, the hair, the teeth - and it's all so damn fake as far as I can tell. I hope the people who follow this guy have a better life because of it - I know that Joel Osteen sure has a better life because of it.
    Ted Cruz was essentially the televangelist politician, wasn't he? He had the mannerisms, the speaking style, even the look of a televangelist. But you know deep down that he's putting on a show. That he's inflecting his words like an actor, putting that quaver in his words and dropping his voice down to show emotion. All totally fake, but practically effortless for a weasel like Cruz.
    There's a lot of false religious leaders out there, and I think it's fair to criticize them and point out how they've failed their flocks.
    [–]WowStrongArms 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    I agree with you 100%. I think the Church has done a horrific job of allowing those people to have a public platform and not doing enough to draw a distinction between the CHurch and them.
    [–]justyouraveragenazi 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    Neither I or my wife are religious, but we'll raise our daughter and any more kiddos that come along in the church. The schools are terrible here and being Catholic scores you a sweet discount at the Catholic ones. You have to go to mass kind of regularly and throw a few bucks in the basket they pass around, but it's worth it.
    I also think it's good for children to have exposure to the church and its teachings, so they at least have the experience and knowledge to make an informed decision when they are older about whether or not it is something they want in their life.
    [–]Daniel_USAUSA 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    Don't think OP has ever read the Bible or was taught about it.
    Jesus Christ explicitly fought against the 'Corrupt Establishment'. They killed him because of it.
    [–]Trump_Image_Library 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
    I think the main point is that to a great deal, the Christian fight in the culture wars has been reduced to.... abortion.
    Pornography runs rampant in our society, degeneracy is everywhere, births out of wedlock, gender insanity. But hey, it's a free country, and nobody wants to be old and out-of-touch, so the "christian" politicians don't do anything about them, or even oppose these changes in any meaningful way.
    Sure, the church has been on the moral side against these things. But they failed to stop any of them.
    Trump, if we're being honest with ourselves, is one of the least religious people the GOP has had in a long time. He's not himself the most pious man, but we all rightly perceived that he would fight for us and win for us.
    [–]WowStrongArms 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    I would agree with some of that.
    I think a lot of the failure to stop a lot of that can be squarely blamed on the Church and allowing liberal ideology to infiltrate it. Hell, the Catholic church is having issues that with right now with leftist cardinals trying to push a liberal agenda.
    I think you're spot on in regards to Trump and the thinking of a lot of Christian voters. Also, a lot of times God chooses those who are not saints in order to spur the most change.
    [–]DeadLightMediaNY 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    I mean Christianity isn't "long dead" obviously but it is dying. People are leaving religion in general.
    [–]EnosMacLar 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
    When I read OP I mentally edited out the "long-dead" adjective. When you do that, the rest is fine. I agree that the "long-dead" adjective was gratuitous and begged the question. In fact, it treats Christianity with too broad a brush; certain groups within Christianity have been co-opted by the "Blue Church", like the Roman Catholic hierarchy. At some level, they are, if not "dead" at least "spiritually stagnant" and politicized. But there are other groups, like Evangelicals, who continuously try to reconnect with God , who see Trump's rise being supported by God, and therefore connected to their church and faith. (A view I support, by the way.)
    So I chose to ignore that slight ("long-dead") slur as misguided and off-topic.
    [–]WowStrongArms 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    Yeah I see your point. I think we could have a long discussion on Catholicism and Evangelicals and the influences of post-modernism in each. But I don't really want to stir that pot. :D
    [–]taqiyya-kitman 8 points9 points10 points  (0 children)
    Or maybe it's pedophelia culture Hollywood is protecting. It's a big part of their lifestyle. That's what morally corrupt scums do with excess wealth. It's not coincident that California recently legalized child prostitution.
    [–]snr2snt2000 11 points12 points13 points  (1 child)
    Rev 18:23?
    "and the light of a lamp will shine in you no more, and the voice of bridegroom and bride will be heard in you no more, for your merchants were the great ones of the earth, and all nations were deceived by your sorcery."
    [–]VoyflenFRA 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    Judges 5:10?
    "Speak, ye that ride on white asses, ye that sit in judgment, and walk by the way."
    [–]Jackarunda 16 points17 points18 points  (10 children)
    Your thinly veiled hatred for Christianity contaminated your entire (otherwise great) post.
    [–]pasharomaine 16 points17 points18 points  (1 child)
    I said the exact same thing, and that's why I didn't upvote. Quite a bit of hatred for Christianity on this sub. What a shame.
    [–]vitriolic_truth 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    You guys are acting like the post is anti-Christian and it's not! It's anti-establishment religion if anything. I wonder if Jesus would appreciate the megachurch taking everyone's money to buy themselves a third home like Bernie.
    EDIT: downvote me all you want. I walk with the true Jesus all day.
    [–]vitriolic_truth -2 points-1 points0 points  (7 children)
    Your thinly veiled hatred for anything relatively or slightly different contaminated your entire comment.
    [–]HighHorseHenryLee 1 point2 points3 points  (6 children)
    How was what he said thinly veiled hatred for anything different? He only defended his faith and nothing else. Christianity is shit on these days, don't you think? Christians are the most persecuted religious group in the world aren't they? And acting like people who believe in something bigger than themselves are young earth creationist bigots is in itself close minded, right? Fuck off. You didn't have to take it there.
    [–]C_H_F_TX 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
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    Christianity is shit on these days, don't you think?
    That's by design. Why do you think there's such an epidemic of pedophilia in the Catholic church? It's the same people who use pedophilia as their weapon for decades to corrupt things like religion, military, government, etc.
    [–]HighHorseHenryLee 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
    Mark 9:42
    And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.
    Jesus did not advocate pedophilia, and therefore the failure of Christians to live up to their rulebook is not an act of God. IMO, pedophilia is caused by the celibacy rules, which are ludicrous and need to be changed. The Bible is also not a cornerstone for organized religion. The Bible also shouldn't be blamed for problems caused by sick bastards who manipulate the more difficult verses for the sake of personal gain. The Bible isn't a corrupt and evil book like The Koran, which was written by someone Jesus would have given the millstone treatment.
    [–]C_H_F_TX 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    Pedophilia is mainly tool to control the world elite. Either you turn someone to pedophilia, recruit those with a propensity for it, or threaten them with it ('we'll dump 1TB of child porn on your work computer if you don't play ball').
    Why do you think tiny stories about pedophilia and the "important" people of society always pop up now and then? You think it's just a coincidence? Look at pizza gate, Hollywood, sandusky, the catholic church, there's officially documented stories everywhere, it's not hard to put the pieces together.
    Go on youtube and look up alex jone's "pedos run the world" video. It makes a lot of sense if you have an open mind, and I usually don't say "go check alex jones" but he's the only one brave enough to even talk about this topic
    [–]vitriolic_truth 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
    Saying OP has a "thinly veiled hatred" for Christianity is inaccurate and his response was quite salty and dismissive (he edited to add the (otherwise great) btw).
    There is nothing to defend because I don't think OP has a hard-on against Christianity. He was simply using church as an analogy and you can't sit here and act like there aren't some wacky churches and established religion and perversions of Christianity in general out there.
    Christianity is shit on these days, sure. But there are also too many Christians quick to shit on anything else that isn't their picture perfect sense of what it means to serve God.
    And I do believe in something bigger than myself, I believe in God and I believe in the son of God. So there's that for ya.
    I really don't want to get into a religious circle jerk here. So God bless y'all and MAGA. No love lost...
    [–]HighHorseHenryLee 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
    My apologies. Your comment just rubbed me the wrong way. I was too rough with my comment. I thought you were an atheist. I don't like established religion either. I'm non-denominational, and I don't attend church. I simply believe in The Bible without considering myself a member of organized religion. I don't want to get off on the wrong foot with anybody here, 'pede. My bad. :)
    [–]vitriolic_truth 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    My bad as well. I can be a bit too vitriolic in my comments 😜, especially when defending something. I guess OPs comment rubbed me the wrong way and I probably should've just stayed out of any sort of religious debate anyway.
    Love you glorious God-loving Pedes though!
    [–]GrahamD89 7 points8 points9 points  (0 children)
    That's a fantastic piece dude. I disagree with Trump of a few issues, but you beautifully put the core of his appeal into words, and described perfectly why he appeals to me and countless others like me.
    [–]Trump_Image_Library 7 points8 points9 points  (1 child)
    This should be cleaned up a little bit and published on some sites... very good point of view
    [–]rossagessausageCA 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    Agreed this deserves to be published.
    [–]TrumpatriarchCO 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
    Donald Trump is selling red hats, red pills, and red states. Turning America so red, she's got blood coming out her wherever.
    [–]wendysNO1wcheesePA 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    I hope the blue religion ends soon. I really can’t take anymore of this shit. Every fuckign TV show there’s a woman telling the guy how stupid he is or beating the fucking shit out of him. BBC is the absolute worst. I try to ignore it, but they don’t even try to hide it anymore. The new Sherlock episodes are so cucked it’s sickening. I’ve seen it coming for years and just thank God that other people got tired of it too. Boycott these Hollywood Nazis. Support the based. MAGA
    I’m going to see my first movie at a theatre in years, Patriot Day, tomorrow. Marky Mark is based as shit and it’s a pro-american movie that’s showing muzzie terrorism. AKA reality. Support it people.
    [–]Very_FluffyEU 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    Somehow this scene reminds me of the left who just lost, including the cult of Hollywood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YDPR2_Z3e0
    [–]Unban_Trump_r_all 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
    This is very good- I think you've vastly underestimated the value of Christianity to the right.. The last 16 years were religious right years: Abortion, gay rights, Merry Christmas, evolution in schools, prayer in schools. But the republican party elected neo-cons and globalists, who would give half-assed speeches with glazed eyes on our "Christian nation," while selling out the core of middle America economically. Christian America finally realized every politician will lie about his faith, his morals, his "godliness," and there is simply no way to "prove" them "less Christian." The very idea of accusing someone of being "less faithful" is an ugly and abhorrent idea. Right now the religious right has given up on finding representation. They voted this time pragmatically, for their wallets, their jobs, rule of law, and safety. But if anything defeated Christian Values Voters, it wasn't the left, it was the right.
    [–]cascadianblueWA 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
    I liked this and everything- but I don't agree that Christianity is dead, nor do I want it to be.
    [–]js1138-2 2 points3 points4 points  (2 children)
    You don't have to be anti-Christian to wish for a government that is secular and bound by the rule of law. We have separation of church and state precisely because there have been lots of wars and conflicts over religion.
    [–]sum_devilUSA 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
    It's all spiritual warfare. Spiritual Chess for the battle of hearts and souls.
    [–]IAintGotTime2BleedMI 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
    You put into words what I've been thinking perfectly. This needs to be on the sidebar.
    [–]nwPatriotOR 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
    This was very well written! Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
    [–]nofacebookaccount 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
    Hollywood is upset because all their whining and campaigning for the Annointed One didn't work which basically makes them irrelevant because no one cares about their political opinions.
    That's it in the nutshell.
    [–]GreyharmonixCA 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
    It's funny, I never really watched The Apprentice and I never really thought of Trump as a cultural icon, but it's undeniable that his personality has captivated a slice of young America and it will change culture.
    You're right when you say that that's what the left is really scared of. When young America rejects Hollywood and no longer finds the old trope of Republicans being gun wielding, bible thumping red necks funny, they have a serious problem on their hands. The left has relied on ad hominem attacks being successful for so long that they don't how to win an actual argument against a new Republican base that's actually better at poking fun than they are.
    The left has relied on shit talking think tanks like The Daily Show, Bill Maher, SNL and the like and they've never had to deal with the faceless trolling shit posting that is The Meme War.
    Trump, the Shit Poster and Chief, has inspired people to be bold and even rude if it helps get the point across. The left is so used to being the smug funny ones that they don't know how to be anything else. When Trump picks up the poo they fling at him and throws it right back in their face, their only resort is to become catastrophists.
    It's been hilarious fodder for The Meme War. The beat goes on. . .
    [–]eresed 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
    Funny thing , in Poland the right is actually the left , and the left are communists.
    [–]MonkeyHammer95 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
    If it wasn't for us Christians you would be waiting on President-elect Clinton to take her throne in 8 days.
    [–]georgeorgegCA 9 points10 points11 points  (1 child)
    OP is a scientologist
    jk fuck hollywood causing more and more earthquakes with their literal shaking
    [–]kicktripleUSA 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
    What came first? The literal shaking or the earthquake?
    [–]passivedouble2 7 points8 points9 points  (0 children)
    This is the kind of perspective, thoughtfulness, and coherent explanation the MSM have failed to provide in this election season. You find it here from an anon poster -- this is why MSM is tanking and new media, including T_D, has such traction.
    Just as Donald was the right man at the right time -- so too is this new brand of media.
    [–]-Corvo-FL 7 points8 points9 points  (0 children)
    • "Not the tired old Christian crap..."
    You still can't get elected as President of the United States without at least claiming to be apart of that "tired old Christian crap".
    The USA is and always was a predominantly Christian nation. This is why the left, the "blue religion" as it were, constantly feels the need to attack Christianity every chance it gets.
    Also, you describe your "new faith" as being "...based...outright rejection of the Blue Faith.", but the "blue faith" is based on the outright rejection of that "tired old Christian crap." to begin with. The "blue faith" could not have had any saw over this country without first convincing people to ignore that "tired old Christian crap."
    You later go on to say "...flyover America wants their culture back...", but you previously suggested that Christianity is only "tired old Christian crap". You clearly have no idea what flyover America thinks.
    [–]mcjaggaRUS 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    TLDR?
    [–]laydownlow 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    Politics is downstream of culture as Breitbart said. The best thing all of us can do is write books, start YouTube channels, become comedians or actors or figure out a way to influence the culture in your own way.
    PJW for instance does his entertaining rants. I think this is a good example of what one individually can do.
    [–]CoogsHouse281TX 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    Simple...virtue signaling groupthink by malignant and uninformed/brainwashed narcissists that live in a bubble outside of ordinary and decent Americans.
    Liberalism, much like modern day "environmentalism," is basically a religion for these people.
    [–]b2ejmeUK 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
    I disagree.
    I think Hollywood doesn't like Trump because most of Hollywood's revenue now comes from international markets (something like >60%), and a protectionist USA will lead to protectionism by other countries, leading to a fall in Hollywood revenue and therefore a fall in Hollywood actor's pay.
    Supporting Trump publicly also depreciates the international marketability of the actors. And we all know actors aren't cast because they're good at their job; they're cast because people like them and want to watch movies with them in.
    Some sources:
    [–]b2ejmeUK 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    If China is Hollywood's biggest market, and Trump is anti-China, why would Hollywood actors be pro-Trump?
    [–]stophboy7IL 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    It's also because they're pedos and Trump isn't - unlike the last 4 Presidents.
    [–]fatdaddy1954CA 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    i figured it was just because hollywood is a pedo den and they dont want to break their precious house of cards
    [–]TantamErgoTX 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    This is quite possibly the best write-up I've seen on here, or at least one of the best. When you start looking at the Left as a religion then it makes much more sense. Actually I see it more as a Jim Jones cult than a religion. I also see it as a mental disorder.
    My one caveat is the bit about Christianity. I think depending where you are, sure, it doesn't have as much of a hold as it did in 1958. But to say that it has none is pretty inaccurate. It depends on where you are I guess. Russia, Georgia, Romania, Greece, Poland are all places I think it still has a pretty strong hold. I grew up in the Southern U.S and there still is at least a facade of Christianity.
    [–]LegendaryStickManCA 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
    Trump nailed his 95 Memes on the church door, and it freaked the blue faith the fuck out.
    [–]dorfcally 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    Coulda just said the (((jews)))
    [–]AlaskaMatt 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    As far as your comment to Christianity -
    I feel like we are coming upon a new Siege of Vienna / Battle of Tours event in the next 5-10 years. Both times, islamic invasions had set firm footholds in Europe and had each battle not been one, Europe would have fallen and Christianity would have been all but wiped out.
    The leaders on each action were also very devout Christians, and after each victory there was a resurgence in the more traditional Christianity. With the Siege of Vienna, it is a prime reason why Poland today remains one of the most Catholic countries on earth. I may be wrong and I am too busy to look but I also believe that Poland has one of the smallest (by volume) populations of muslims in Europe as well. Heard of any terror attacks in Poland? There is a reason why you probably haven't.
    [–]dixondNZL 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    You are 100% right in your update comment on Christianity. In fact, this whole post is so spot-on I just kinda want to hug you.
    Regarding the coming resurgence of Christianity: there's been a number of prominent Christian thought leaders linking Donald J Trump, 45th President of the United States, to the secular/pagan King Cyrus prophecied in Isiah 45, under whose rule the Israelites flourished again, rebuilt their faith, and who provided cover and consent to rebuild the walls of Jerusalem.

    DEUS VULT

    [–]tall_baconUSA 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
    Please make a distinction between Christianity and Catholicism. Because they are two different things with core theological disagreements.
    There are millions of Christians who back Trump and are part of this new surge you're talking about.
    Please don't disparage us. We aren't 1958 Christians with white picket fences, 4 kids, a Labrador, and 2 story house with 5 acres.
    We're a different, post-modern breed. I'm tired of being misrepresented by the media and Hollywood and I need my fellow 'pedes to know and understand who and what we are. We are Christians who are quintessentially American, we are not part of the leftist, progressive Catholic Church, we are anti big government, we are protectionist and capitalist, and we believe in honesty, integrity, accountability, love, firmness, rule and respect of law, strong military, the constitution, rights of states, competition in the marketplace, and buying American-made.
    [–]the_based_man 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    The church is running a simulacra of itself. It became a caricature. TV and infiltration ruined it to a degree. What I mean is, Christianity is still as strong as ever once you strip away the bullshit and get to the core. Reading Joseph Campbell and Carl Jung helped me understand the bibles purpose. You aren't getting that from TV or the average church. They just vomit cool verses with zero analysis and context.
    [–]TheSecondShitter 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    Mainstream media is dying out now that the internet has pretty much leveled the playing field, no longer will people only get there news from 1 or 2 sources that all spew out the same propaganda. Look at the dinosaurs trying to label all news outside of there control "fake news".
    The left pushes its propaganda through top down centralized comedy propaganda - the daily show, and every other fucking tv show on the air. We finally a have response with memes and this is something the left was just not able to compete with ( a few hundred writers in the vs million of cons).
    The globalist world order is collapsing all around us and there only response is to suppress the news and call the truth "fake".
    [–]tenhat 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
    They're also just jealous, on face-value, because he's a bigger star than they'll ever be. He will probably go down as the biggest celebrity of all time. You can't even compare him to Reagan, or Obama, or JFK. And to compare his fame to George Clooney's seems laughable. He is the first and only modern celebrity who can be compared to people like Julius Caesar. His level of fame and power makes that of Hollywood seem pathetic.
    [–]AkamaruMN 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    Didn't think of it that way but as Trump would say "True...true...".
    [–]Woodisgoodnotfood 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
    As a berniecrat who is fed up with the neoliberal establishment, please don't do them the favor of calling them "progressive". They are not. Call them the "regressive left".
    Calling them progressive allows them to speak for a huge swath of the country who does not support them.
    [–]LKNDAUS 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Unfortunately they're the ones that have the power and control of the movement. We can try and separate the people by their good or bad intentions, but what good is it when they all support the same movement.
    There are few, very few true liberals. I know a few, and they haven't voted for a democrat or Green Party or any of the modern progressive movement. The ones I know tend to vote libertarian. But they number so few, I think it's fine to speak in generalities about the left, progressives, liberals, etc.
    [–]PeacinatorAZ 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    The one thing I would add is being partisan is stupid. For all the caterwauling, there is little difference between the parties. Bush droned Muslims, pandered to corporate interests, and spied on us. Obama droned Muslims, pandered to corporate interests, and spied on us. Obama's socialized medicine was first proposed by Nixon, after he saw how much money it would put in the pockets of corporations. In the anti-NSA-spying bill, which failed to pass, voting correlated more with corporate donors than party affiliations. The system is broken.
    Trump is different. He wants to fix the system. That's why even the Republican congressmen are scared.
    [–]Majorobviousphd 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    I'm glad you qualified you comments on Christianity. You're right, the cultural shift has affected it a little bit, but mostly only for the "cultural christians." The core of the Church is still strong in the US, and I'd venture to say most in that core see politics as something on the periphery of life. In other words, they're more interested in following God regardless of politics, rather than what seemed to happen in the earlier part of the century where voting Republican somehow became synonymous with voting Republican. I think you're getting at a change in how conservatives choose their candidates, and not meaning that America has lost it's religion (though it has a little bit; by the way the Church is exploding in Latin America, China, and Africa...it's insane).
    [–]pcvcolinUSA 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    Basically OP is correct in this assessment, but here's another big reason Hollywood is freaking out: Their money won't go as far in court cases where they are appealing to their Democratic friends in the judiciary to impose their personal, pro-Clinton, anti-Constitutional ideology on the rest of the world.
    When Obama came into office, there were 54 vacancies in the judiciary for him to fill. He tried to get confirmed another 52 nominees for the judiciary in his last months of office - basically a takeover of the judiciary, but fortunately (together with public appeals against this practice) the Senate Republicans stopped Obama from getting any of the later nominees confirmed. (24 Obama nominees for lifetime federal judgeships who had recently been cleared by the Senate Judiciary Committee, were stopped before they could proceed to a floor vote.)
    Take a look at the number of vacancies in the judiciary that President Trump will have to fill... as of this moment, it's 114!
    Thank you to those in this subreddit who (successfully!) helped stop the Merrick Garland nomination and who also asked Senators to not allow confirmation of any more Obama nominees for the judiciary. This was a huge success and I think it will result in the Constitution being saved for our children.
    edit: I'm Christian, and I just noticed some of the more upset Christian commenters in this thread. I don't see any reason to take offense based on what OP wrote, he's just pointing out certain political realities about what have been driving changes in the American political scene. I didn't take it as an assault on people who have a certain belief. (Also, I'm not certain that claiming that we are "offended" is any better than what university students are doing who ask for safe spaces when they are uncomfortable (which is why I hope more universities will adopt the policies of the U. of Chicago, which does not allow safe spaces or trigger warnings), so let's grow a spine here folks.)
    [–]jrploccv 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    I feel like this is the first time I've understood what this is.
    Edit: Sorry I live in a blue state. Hi I'm new here.
    [–]1wayst80CA 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    The thing is the left takes well-intentioned ideas and turns them into big brother level of government controls. Like, yes racism is bad, yes we should be tolerant of all races and creeds.... hell, this is America, if you want to say you self-identify as a coconut then hey more power to you if you're not harming anyone...but when you take all of those well-intentioned notions of tolerance and inclusion and then turn that into censorship, speech control, thought control, government mandates on every walk of life, that's when things go wrong.
    [–]TipsycowsyNC 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
    Am I wrong for feeling this sub just shits all over the lefts beliefs? I mean we prided ourselves in the fact that anyone could come here but just lately it's just non stop shitting on the left. I get it yes a lot of them seem to be brain-dead idiots but I just feel like a lot of the aggressiveness that other subs had toward us is that we do a lot of shitting on people.
    Dont get me wrong I love the_Donald but it just feels "echo chamberish" lately. Dont ban me please I like our shitposts.
    [–]Walrus_ToothGA 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    Well, their beliefs need to be shit on, as they're pushed everywhere in everything. You can't just ignore it, as that's just a passive form of accepting their beliefs as right.
    [–]Anmerpozzo 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    Finally someone understands this is about CULTURE. You guys won at your last chance to revert it. Look at Latin America and you'll see we are fucked being recognition. As a Brazilian, if I showed you the history books for elementary schools here, you guys would be shocked.
    Don't fall for the same shit we did!
    [–]PresidenTrumpCamacho 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    Praise the lord!
    [–]1blah1 3 points4 points5 points  (1 child)
    You give them way too much credit. They just dance to the highest bidder. Trump might have reduced their influence by being trump.
    [–]VillageMask 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    That might very well true, but how they are perceived is important.
    If people view them as a cult/religion, then everything they do and say will be seen in that light and their influence will be greatly reduced.
    [–]AdultDoseCAN 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
    So anti-Sematism is not allowed here, but anti-Christianity is?
    Evangelicals were a huge voter base for Trump, and I thought this sub loved our Christians? Guess not.
    [–]moneyboogNC 6 points7 points8 points  (2 children)
    “
    long-dead Christianity
    You lost me. Christianity's alive and thriving, just not necessarily as much in the US. There's over 2 billion Christians in the world and that number's estimated to reach 3 billion by 2050.
    [–]c0brac0mmand3rIN 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
    Just found out recently that we are expecting our 6th child; we're doing our part!
    [–]elyas_machera 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
    Maybe instead of bashing Christians, realize we are an ally? Most Christians that will support Trump don't support him because he's a Christian. We support him because we best believe he will support us.
    I understand your frustration with the "Religious Right". So many Christians used their power to thump people with their bibles instead of truly spreading a message of love and acceptance.
    I personally hope that the "culture change" that happens has a foundation of some Christian values but is inclusive of all people.
    [–]MAGAMADMAN 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
    High Energy!
    [–]Fna1CA 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
    “
    The younger ones have grown up in an environment where Blue Faith assumptions cannot even be questioned
    We are the counterculture
    [–]Eirrac276 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
    Nice analysis! Good point about some of those clowns being the equivalent of preachers, very astute!
    [–]ReynoldsAlready 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    Great post! recommended for SHILLS
    [–]BejewelledBadgerPOL 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Good old Pepe is the perfect allegory:
    WE'RE GOING TO POST FROGS AND DISREGARD YOUR REEE'ING ABOUT MUH RACISM
    The first two examples of their tactics failing are Donald Trump and Pepe the Frog. And they are scared shitless of what might be next.
    [–]Daniel_USAUSA 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
    I googled 'The Blue Church' believing it was an actual location and it really was. The Blue Church aka Kék templom.
    [–]NewpedeARMY 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    We have the best Hungarians, don't we folks?
    [–]SirTwistsAlot 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    “
    Reagan stumbled into one in the '80s.
    George Carlin taught me Reagan was a criminal too
    [–]pepepupilAZ 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    "And that's what Meryl Streep is really scared of. She's not truly aware of it, just like fluttering housewives couldn't really understand the counterculture threat in 1968."
    The best aspect of their ignorance is displayed when Meryl Streep turns a room full of filthy rich Hollywood Yoga queens and their pedo husbands into moist eyed, panty sniffing crysturbators. All the while believing, hoping against hope, that this pathetic behavior will draw sympathy and change hearts, when in fact it is our most powerful weapon against them.
    [–]GerthySausage 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Also scared because Trump draws in so much attention it must taking some away from them
    [–]retr0act1ve 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    I don't know the way I see it is the media owned mostly by Globalists is pushing for what they are told to push for. How many recent presidents have been globalists or tied to them? Every last one since I was born. When they step out of line we know what happens.
    The lesser of them are ousted with whatever dirt they have had hanging over their heads since the first year they were in whatever office. The media freakout is all due to globalists not getting what they have enjoyed for so long, the most important seat in government if you are to destroy a country from within. Now they don't have it, and you can bet they want it back now, not 4-8 years from now... but now.
    As far as Hollywood goes, some of them are friends of globalists, some of them are stupid and believe the liberal echo chambers they have subjected their selves to for years, and some of them realize they profit handsomely from the status quo and want that to continue.
    [–]suicidebunniesCA 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    So I remember to read later. DON'T JUDGE ME
    [–]xrabidx 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Excellent post, this is why I come to t_d.
    [–]SuperSizedFri 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    I had a thought today that it seems like all liberal thoughts extend from some sort of guilt or sorrow within
    [–]Trump_The_TriumphantOR 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Let's be honest, the left has become a full on cult. Cults shun and shame nonbelievers, real churches do not.
    Shunning is a form of mind control, the goal being making the shunned feel guilty and left out and when the shunned return they are love bombed to reinforce the mental conditioning.
    Source: I'm an ex Jehovah's Witness researching for a book exposing them.
    [–]MilkyPuffCO 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
    Wonderfully worded. An excellent contribution to the conversation about what is happening to the American zeitgeist.
    A thought that occurs to me here is that while the Blue faith was soundly rejected this cycle, there was in fact quite a bit of energy surrounding Sanders' campaign, and it seems clear that it came from people who had a generalized anxiety about the status quo and supported Sanders not because they fundamentally understand economics but because clearly the existing power structures have become non-responsive and self-interested. I would love to hear your thoughts on how that plays into your analogy.
    [–]notjaffo[S,🍰] 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    Brilliant point there. Sanders was the real leader of the Blue Faith this cycle, and Hillary's cynical DNC shut him down. I think if Sanders had been allowed to run as a quasi-religious leader, running on pure Blue Church mojo, he would have been a much stronger candidate than HRC.
    Obama ran as a spiritual leader and a quasi-religious symbol, and he's still worshiped by the left.
    My biggest fear is that they'll find a Hispanic Obama to run in 2020 who can tap into that same dynamic.
    [–]kriegsonRUS 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    I think you absolutely nailed their religious fervor. Many people just need a purpose, something guiding them, something that explains the world as they see it. To create a method to the madness even if it's just a comforting lie.
    And so we see their ideology take shape with its own "social justice" bible and commandments that change fluidly as the day demands.
    [–]cuck_smasher 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Hollywood has been the propaganda arm of leftist ideology for a century. They even had to purge all the communists back in the 50s because there were so many.
    [–]RockmanNeoIDN 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
    There's a reason of saying "Never discuss politics and religion" because they're one of the same: they're about ideology.
    [–]jefeperroMO 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    happy cakeday
    [–]GarlicSaucePunch 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    I don't want to draw our line at American Nationalism. I want American Exceptionalism. I don't just want to have a country, I want the best country. I don't just want dank memes, I want dank memes that end up destroying Blue Churches like Buzzfeed.
    [–]Zodorova 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Just read your update, really appreciate it and agree with the point that that change won't come from there.
    Beautifully written
    [–]mudboneVA 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Outstanding analysis.
    [–]lurkwellmyfriendsNC 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Well Christianity is not dead, but I take your point.
    It's a good thing that the right has a big tent now and one need not be full-on 'Christian theocracy' in order to be welcomed - and even lead - within that tent.
    [–]SlothB77VA 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    How does giving gold work? Because that was wonderful OP.
    [–]GeneralTankzUSA 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    If you Christianity really wants to come back in force, it needs to implant itself in culture. Do it the same way the Left does, by putting the ideology in movies, books, music, and other media mediums without actually saying what they are preaching, which is Cultural Marxism.
    Put Christian, capitalist, hard work, or whatever Right ideology that prompts the individual into media without actually calling to it. Be like Mel Gibson, but try not to put as much imagery of Christ in the movie. People will pick that up. Change it into something people won't pickup and is cool to watch, listen, and read.
    [–]Ravenhaft 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    My HR department is run by a BASED mom who has a MAGA hat and a Trump Pence sticker on her car. We're pretty lucky!
    [–]spaceman2121 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    This is one of the best posts I've read on this sub. Or heck, on Reddit
    [–]Farmerman13TX 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    TL;DR Read it. It's worth your time.
    [–]predator2811CZE 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Great analysis, thanks a lot!
    [–]richmomzTX 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    TL:DR; the left-wing cultural gatekeepers are acting like an aging former prom queen who flies into a fit of rage because she just got rejected for the first time in her life.
    I couldn't agree more.
    [–]JudasGoat82CAN 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    I want good, quality reboots on the following t.v. shows:
    Airwolf, Night Rider, The A-Team, MASH, Buck Rogers, The Million Dollar Man etc.
    basically all the good old shows that had a bit of creativity to them, rather than the reality crap we have now.
    [–]centipedealicious 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    I think your analysis is very interesting and insightful. Thank you.
    [–]rainbowyrainbow 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    yeah I´m really tired of the constant sjw propaganda being injected into every single art form out there
    I would have never bothered with politics if sjws, feminist and radical leftwingers hadn´t destroyed the things I like (scifi, fantasy, comics, video games and movies)
    Well I for won am tired of seeing the things that I have loved since my childhood be disfigured to serve another one of the lefts ridicules agendas.
    [–]JohnnyRedPillSeedSC 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Understand the true definition if LITURGIES in the context of what OP just said. This post is wise indeed. Though, I disagree about death of Christianity, whose highest virtues are faith hope & charity, but to each his own...
    [–]OffthepointNY 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    "Nothing against Christianity"…but let me insult it anyway. Liked the rest of this, though. And for the record, Trump may not be the poster boy for it, but he is Christian.
    [–]BabyDinosaurHead 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    For anyone who wants to read more about how Progressivism is really a religion, and is structured and functions as one, read this:
    /u/notjaffo ever read this? I consider it essential reading for understanding the left.
    [–]RoninGreg 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Hollywood is freaking out because they realize they don't have the influence they thought they did. They went all in for Hillary and it didn't matter.
    [–]PuncledorfWI 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)

    APPLAUDING ASTUTE OBSERVATION

    [–]DaeBixby 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    1. Hollywood is run by pedophiles implicated in the propagation of the acceptance of socialism and pedophilia.
    2. They are socialists.
    [–]wraithxMAGA 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Can we please start getting some TV shows that DON'T feature parents acting like their children are their superiors as well as ones that don't have every male being cucked by anything with boobs on the screen?
    [–]jessealeUSA 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Liberalism is different side of the same coin for which counter culture emerged in the 60s and now there is a counter culture emergent in the 2010s.
    When you start using your ideology, be it Christianity, Islam, Progressism, Communism or Globalism to oppress half the populace, the people will revolt. Simple as that. You don't see this so much in places like Japan and other 65%+ homogeneous populations where there is cultural unity among the people.
    [–]babylebowski 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    There are lessons to be learned for sure. The left elite became so removed from reality/real life America. They became apologist and afraid to be called racist etc. They turned the media into the shit show echo chamber. We must be vigilant. We must never forget the real mission : to MAGA. If we let things get away from us then we are doomed to repeat the mistakes of the Left. -(sorry for spelling grammar. I'm on my mobile and with my 2 yr old.)
    [–]wryprotagonistCAN 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Of course Christianity will come back.
    We only need 12.
    [–]PepeMcFeels 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Too bad this was pinned, this belongs on /r/all
    [–]95wave 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Red state vs blue, you into nrx at all bud? Seems like someones been reading some of that.
    [–]Grizzletron 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    If you really want to see how far out of touch these people are...visit /r/seattle or /r/seattlewa - I live here and can't wait to move.
    [–]HusseinHaterRUS 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Wow, beautifully written, thank you for putting into words what many of us think about daily. It is time for a revolution, beginning on the 20th of November, although the seeds have already been planted. This will grow into something beautiful in the USA, and hopefully without too much blood spillage.
    [–]Commander_KEKUSA 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Well said, It perfectly explains why Hillary was so triggered by a cartoon frog. It really made me realize that Hillary denouncing Pepe is so much bigger then being mad at a cartoon frog. When she denounced Pepe she openly admitted she is completely disconnected from today's youth. She and the rest of the establishment all are and they are very scared because they know they do not represent us at all.
    I never realized that the left rose to power in 1 decade until you pointed it out, It really makes me hopeful that we can set real change in motion under the Trump presidency.
    [–]savagee2k 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Nice read.
    [–]beanx 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I QUITE ENJOY YOUR WRITING, OP.

    [–]asdasdadfsdfsdfs 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Excellent post.
    [–]FluffiPuffTX 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    An excellent read, but it still lacking ONE redpill...
    It is a BLUE CHURCH LIE that Christianity is dead.
    [–]Ikuyasu[🍰] 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    When I saw Katy perry and miles cyclis with nasty woman t-shit going to college dorm to campaign Hillary, I thought US would die. But luckily we won.
    [–]erik__RUS 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    The left took their PC culture war winnings too far. America was ready to push back against that. Trump was a bit of a miracle.
    [–]hollidaygu 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    The first thing Trump/Sessions should do is open an investigation into pedophilia in Hollywood. There's a reason so many "child" stars have a train wreck of an adulthood. There's also a reason they honor Polanski as most don't see it as a problem.
    Once the perverts are outed, the based will stand up and take their place.
    [–]francisco_DANKonia 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Good post. I would be willing to bet that Star Wars is the most boycotted movie of all time now, although they are still making a ton of cash.
    [–]ScottTheEngineer 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    This is very very well written, insightful, and inspirational!
    Seriously, thank you for sharing!
    [–]HyperHadouken 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    This really was an 'aha' moment for me.
    [–]HeidiH0 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Damn near all of the leaders of this shift are Christian, so I'm not sure why you are stepping on your dick there. There was no Reagan Christian movement. That's simply what we are. No need to bring up what never was.
    [–]sixtysixpixistix 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    “
    not explicit religious faith like long-dead Christianity, but a wicked kind of counterculture movement.
    A mainstream counterculture cannot exist. That is a contradiction.
    We all know what this generation stands AGAINST. This 'Trump' generation will need to figure out what it stands for, or the movement will be totally lost.
    [–]descendinglion 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    You're right about everything except the notion that Christianity is dead. If you're paying attention you'd know that every modern argument of right and wrong pivots on the assumption or rejection of Christian compassion. Progressive just think that Christianity is incompatible with that sort of compassion, and stupidly accept everything as valid. . .except traditional values of course.
    Even atheists argue from a Judeo-Christian framework, often times conflating philosophy with Biblical criticism. They don't even bother to accept fully the logical outcome of Materialist dogma from fear of veering too far from the universally accepted aspects of Christian values such as alms, passivity, the value of individual human life(for the most part). A lot of them even believe in human transcendence, which I personally find funny.
    In other words, most sects are playing a game of "We're more Christian than Christian."
    [–]Krstoserofil 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Good post, and the more I think about it, I like Trump because he's getting the shitty sick conservatism out of the "right". Fuck the old christian/family values, I hate that just as much I hate feminazis telling me what my values should be. I just want economy, big important social issues (like poverty) and geopolitics in my parties.
    And not some stupid talk about my moral values and what the ruling party should ban, a lesbian kiss or the male gaze.
    [–]NocturnalPatrolVA 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    I love this.
    [–]rednecknobody 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Meryl streep needs to go back to the scientology center.then never come back out.
    [–]Doolox 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
    “
    But now the bad kids are getting bolder, posting funny memes that make you laugh even though John Oliver would not approve, like passing crude dirty pictures under the table in Sunday School.
    This was the left's true downfall. Through puritanical progressiveness they facilitate a climate where "conservatism" is the counter-culture.
    [–]Walrus_ToothGA 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    True. They could've just left geek/sport stuff as a 'safe space' from their insanity and many of the most inventive online presences and those who follow them would just kept rolling dice and shooting dudes and ignoring politics until the water was already too hot to escape.
    [–]LKNDAUS 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
    I see a lot of people are being triggered about the Christian thing op said.
    I'm not someone easily offended so I guess I never even thought about it until I started reading the comments. I certainly understood what OP was talking about when he said it would take more than Christianity to defeat liberalism. I've tried explaining this to my very moral very religious very Christian mom in the past and we always would end up arguing. Her candidates have been Ben Carson, mike huckabee, etc etc. what I found interesting was once she got on the trump train there was no backing off. When the audiotape of locker talk surfaced, she got mad. Real mad. Not at trump but at the obvious coordination between the media and establishment to take him out.
    In order to actually beat the left, we needed a populist. Someone who who could speak to more than one specific group. I think he made a lot of people that are feeling ignored heard. Those who want jobs, those who want to say merry Christmas, those who think our flag stands for something, those who feel forgotten after serving the military, and all who don't get a safe space at a liberal university. He was all of ours voice.
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    [–]Seething_fixture 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    It's the (((global elites)))
    [–]BoingbingCA 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    HAPPY CAKE DAY!
    [–]PaperLuigi3USA 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    I disagree with your comment on Christianity not being a cultural power. Many in the voting block (I read an article a few months ago estimating about 30% of the potential voters) are evangelical Christians. Christianity's influence isn't felt in politics because they just don't vote; not because they don't have an influence on culture at all.
    [–]GayLatino4Trump 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Yeah, I think many of us have realized it too. The left pretend that this is about minorities being discriminated against, but the reality is that they don't care about them. The left only cares about being in power, and anyone who threatens that is an enemy to them. This is why liberals have turned on me despite the fact that I'm what they're supposedly fighting for (I'm gay, Latino, disabled).
    Identity politics were the reason why I was a liberal throughout college. It was the reason why I hated Republicans and called them names without really understanding what it is they stand for. All I knew was that "they're repressed bigots" and that they watch Fox News. It was just common sense around my peers that being latino, I should be for illegal immigration (because of all the excuses they make for it), and that any latino that disagrees must think they're better than "us" (the latino community). I knew Republicans were against it, so that must mean they're bigots who hate us.
    I dunno what happened. I kind of just started seeing how controlling and irrational the left was. I know it started around the time that the bakers got publicly shamed for refusing to bake a cake for a gay wedding and the left's demand that they serve everyone. I thought to myself that if I were to own a business - one that I paid for and built - that I would not want anyone telling me who I can and cannot cater to, or who I can and cannot hire/fire. I started to shift my way of thinking from "Anyone who doesn't like me for being gay is a hateful bigot" to "It's okay for people to disagree with it, as long as they respect me and my individual rights (live and let live)". I'm telling you - it took that mentality to completely shift me to the other side. That was my redpill, and as the months went by I did see how the left is more about control, bullying, and using others than it is about protecting others. The left pretends that Trump is such a threat to gay rights, when he publicly said he wants to protect us and that our right to marriage "is settled" - but they pay no attention to the fact that Muslims think we should be executed. Why? Political power. Same reason why they target individual Christians for refusing to cater a gay wedding over politicians who promise to import people with a culture that condones and encourages murdering gays.
    The left is scared that their identity politics, bullying, and public shaming are being rendered useless. They hate that we have a president that will counter their culture. For eight years, they enjoyed having a president that would invite clock boy to the white house to remind us how Islamophobe we are, say that black thugs could be his sons to remind us how racist we are, and basically blast the police that risks their life protecting us. It's all over for them. They don't have the government to back them up anymore. They have a new president, and this one isn't bowing down to them. Quite the contrary.
    ANNND...I ranted.
    [–]Scandalnoodle 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    What's with all the "long dead Christianity comments"? Christian voters had a huge role to play in voting trump in....
    [–]motorolaradio 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Remember when accepting an award was about just that.
    Not hijacking a micorophone and terrorizing everybody with your personal opinions. How far up does your head have to be up your own ass to think that is appropriate?
    [–]model4001sNJ 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)

    SPOT ON

    [–]FarmerPepeMO 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
    And u/notjaffo is obviously a prophet of this new religion of the Church of Pragmatism. Well said, agreed 200%.
    [–]PolitiskepMN 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
    Prophetic.
    [–]sirylj 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
    Praise Kek!
    This is the MAGA Movement, and it is unstoppable.
    Shadilay brothers! NO BRAKES!!!
    [–]my_nameis_mud 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    Bravo. Well said.
    [–]Donald_Inspires_Me 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    They don't think it be like it is, but it do.
    [–]MITN0 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)

    It's cuz they're the illuminati

    [–]AnynomusNLD 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)

    GREAT READ! Thanks!

    [–]zukoandhonorMAGA 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    Good read, i totally agree with that.
    [–]popeculture 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
    Permanent, forever sticky needed.
    I will pay money to read your analysis. I won't give (fake) Reddit gold because I don't want it to help failing companies that are part of the Blue Church that you speak about.

    MAGA my FriendEpede

    [–]ArtOfRenaissance2016 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)

    AMEN. OP GETS IT. I APPROVE AND FEEL THIS MESSAGE.

    [–]TrumpLeninDrinkTeam 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Really enjoyed this, copy and pasting to share.
    [–]MamemooUSA 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)

    On point

    [–]jaggersix 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
    I like it!
    [–]SoupIsNotAMealUSA 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Of course you do!
    [–]spunjo1221NE 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    WEW
    [–]StancesDances 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    This needs to be stickied for the next Century
    [–]xAengusx 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    I have no idea what I am going to do with this erection. You should send this piece of erotic fanfic to the CIA. I hear they're into that stuff now.
    [–]Doolimite 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Excellent piece of writing - Bravo Pede ! Best thing I read all day
    [–]176-671NJ 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Very well written. Cultural Marxism is finally dying. But it's not going to go out without a ton of REEEs and muh narratives.
    [–]Jollarn 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Wew lad, this deserves to be on the top of the page forever
    [–]klavierjerkeMAGA 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Holy shit. I'm toting the biggest MAGA spewing freedom boner right now. Sending this to everyone I know. Great analysis pede!
    [–]UNCUCKING_COMIFORNIACA 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Mods sticky this!
    Outstanding analysis. I have thought for a long time (since Occupy) that the left is now a religion.
    [–]freshpondindian16ARMY 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    So this is the best thing I've read on here in awhile. The analogy fits, 1000%.

    BUY PEPE

    [–]freedomandkek 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    Brilliant
    [–]polisalwaysright2RUS 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    You're completely right. The president has an enormous influence on the culture, and they're very afraid of that. It's not a coincidence that under Reagan, movies were all about America kicking ass and that under Obama, the SJW bullshit reached critical mass.
    [–]SamIWas80 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    And similar to the church, the Blue left enjoys sex with children. Especially Hollywood.
    [–]carpe-jvgvlvmRUS 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    I never watched West Wing and most bad TV and didn't really know anyone in those videos, never watched awards, &c, because family is Based AF (even Dem ones ...I guess I'm blessed, or LMAO "privileged") but haven't ever understood people who let entertainers, esp celebtards, take it upon their stupid-ass selves to "educate" us plebes.
    And not just "everyday Americans"/Deplorables/rakist whatever labels they're using today, but also those in /regated and generally "out of elite club". Maryl doesn't LIKE them, anymore than Nodonna was going to give head to dudes (bitch would shoot you down cold for entering her "space"; she ain't putting her std "lips" which are fake on any plebe's privates). Why don't they SEE that?
    It should be OFFENSIVE AF THAT CELEBS (without credentials see below) ACT LIKE OUR PUPPETEERS.
    “
    "I tell you ... "we" will not vote for ... rakism ... xenophones ... pianists ... blackists oops that's name of show nevermind ..."
    Uh, they're talking down to you. With NO MERIT.
    • I do not include seriously smart and based people who happen to be celebs and who do not talk down to "everyday Americans. One example of "okay he can talk" was apparently Ronald Reagan (before most of our times, esp when he was "movie star"). He put money where mouth was, and made some peace. He didn't destroy USSR; he saw it was coming down and gave them helping hand. He had ideas like "Star Wars" which, really, I think people laughed at him for it but showed he was just WAY BEFORE HIS TIME.
    • Based James Woods, because he is actually MIT-educated, then realized MIT was boring (!!!) and base-self-educated, and while I loved White House Down (only JW movie I've seen maybe), I never would have "followed" him except he kept getting retweeted, and HE DID NOT GIVE A FUCK about pleasing people, but gave informed opinions. I didn't like his guy at the time (Ted Cruz IIRC), but he shot straight and didn't tweet (or talk) down to ppl.
    Celebs I see doing their thing (ones I watch) seem to stay on down-low; I don't recall them ever saying who I MUST vote for. If they threw cuck-fit, I'd probably not watch them anymore — either side of political spectrum. If they speak, even if I disagree, it should be as equals, or I don't care to hear what they have to say.
    ASIDE: Maybe Putin is exception, but he's funny AF. He's good defender of human rights, but he's also funny AF. (And BASED, too!) How can I not fangirl over this?!
    [–]dangrullon87 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    I don't think this has anything to do with Donald Trump the person. Hollywood is using trump as code for the average American. They are channelling all their vitriol and hatred for the common man who they see below them. They see trump as a sign that things are changing. We don't need them , they need us and are constantly trying to remind us of our "place" as the inferior ones. They use trump as a metaphor to wretch on us peasants from their ivory towers. As fight Club stated "we cook your food, we drive your cars, we guard you while you sleep. Do not fuck with us."
    [–]FreedomsreigningWA 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
    You lost me at long dead Christianity. Eat dick cuck.
    [–]Gabrielle_of_York 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
    I agree that, institutionally its dead but Christianity is the truth and you can't kill the truth. We should be trying to bring it back so the west can have a proper moral compass again.
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      [–]Aurondarklord 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      I think most of all, this election was a rejection of kingmakers. A public that is sick of unelected, unofficial power brokers, whether celebrities, journalists, party leadership, whatever, telling everybody else how to vote and saying, in what's supposed to be a democracy, "this is gonna be the result, deal with it or shut up".
      You saw that on both sides. The GOP was just as adamant about forcing a candidate their voters didn't want through as the DNC was. But the RNC doesn't have superdelegates, the Republican voting base simply won't LET their party organize in a top-down fashion that allows Republican leadership to tell them "this is what's best for you, and you have to do it!"
      The voting base of the Republican party demanded Trump the populist, the party tried to say "you can't have him", and the voters just kept demanding until they got their way.
      The voting base of the Democratic party demanded Bernie the populist, the party said "you can't have him", and the voters threw a fit but ultimately capitulated to "inevitability", because the democratic primary system is set up to stop that kind of populism and let the establishment pick.
      And when it came time for the general, what happened? The Republican populists who got their way were fired up, they'd just done the impossible and were ready to do it again. The Democratic populists who'd been forced to comply were dejected and beaten down, they did as they were told but they didn't do it very enthusiastically.
      And the guy whose side had the energy because they'd gotten the candidate they really wanted won. Quelle surprise.
      As much as this election was about rejection of the Blue Faith, and I do believe it very much WAS about political correctness going way too far and being massively rebuked, it was also about rejection of elites, which aren't just a liberal problem, and rejection of a "system behind the system" that allows those elites to pick winners through back room deals and media narratives.
      [–]PaintedPicture 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Fuck yea! Can NOT wait for the sequel!
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        [–]Stupidlizardface 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Could have something to do with all of their satanism being exposed too.
        [–]blasphemoussandwich 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Meryl Streep? You mean that woman who supports and cheered a child molester? How does the left sleep at night with all the pedophilia running amuck its ranks?
        [–]grassshrimpNJ 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Very good analysis, appreciate you taking the time to post. The left has gone way to far left, bullying anyone with a different ideology has become second nature. They don't understand why the bullied are fighting back and don't know how to respond to people who no longer care what they think or say.
        [–]GhostphaezCA 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Interesting take - thanks for sharing!
        [–]still-at-work 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Yeah... Also Clinton ignored the rust belt and Trump campaign hard there with a well recieved anti-free trade and anti-outsourcing message.
        I will agree that the left thinks this is a challenge to their cultural authority (and they are right to an extent) but it is also because they are so blind to the plight of the common person that they still don't know why they lost. You can yell "RUST BELT, TRADE!" to their face all day long but it just will not penetrate.
        So while agree Trump's support is a cultural movement, I also know that Clinton may have won if she flip flopped on trade enough to convince the rust belt voters. Trump won by relatively small margins there. Instead she won California three times over.
        Basically what I am saying is that the Blue Church as the OP called them was still in control after the election, but they overreacted to losing so badly that they are undermining their own support.
        Its like when a 'prophet' claims that the world will end at X date. Then X date comes and nothing happens. The prophet is then scrambling to convince the masses they are still right, just wrong that one time. You may get away with that once with the faithful but after a second or third time even die hard members will begin to question.
        The Blue Church (I am warming to this term) overreacted and staked their reputation that Trump will be a monster. The more non monster he looks like, the more he keeps helping the common person, the more he acts like a decent President then the bigger the hit to the Blue Church's cultural hold. They of course make it worse by doubling down with every misstep. Each one is a chip at their cultural foundation, and a few more people begin to question.
        So I agree with the conclusion of the OP though I think the catalyst is not the election but the overreaction to it.
        [–]Osprey_Man 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        One thing I'd like to add is that our movement is scarier as we killed the Red Team and feasted upon its corpse while making the Blue Team watch.
        [–]SessamyUSA 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Bravo
        By the way, not all real Christians are lefties. Most stands of a KJV Bible believer are nothing the modern world will accept. For instance, I don't support sodomites in what they do, but I won't call them "fags", hurt them or insult them more than calling them a sodomite (as defined as modern words "gay" or any other "sexual orientation" than "straight") and witnessing to them to tell them what lifestyle they live is sinful and tell them the gospel and maybe give them a tract about repenting. They are not born sodomites. (gay means happy in the KJV).
        I am not politically correct in any way. I support guns as we have a God given right to defend myself. Etc.
        Real Christians do NOT go door to door or to a church building. The word "church" means a group of people, never a building in scripture.
        Every perVersion of the Bible except the KJV comes from the vatican, whom is leader of the great whore, Babylon the great of Revelation 17.
        Bible version issue (textus receptus Vs nestles text) "movie style":
        Presentation style:
        Islam created by Roman catholicism: documentation
        Over 400 more videos and 100 FAQ's
        [–]DopeWithAScopeRUS 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Seems legit, interesting enough I'm sending it to husbando, good article, spot on.
        [–]gargantualis 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        They forget the primordial soup they were indoctrinated in.
         
        Bezemenov: It’s a great brainwashing process, which goes very slow[ly] and is divided [into] four basic stages. The first one [is] demoralization; it takes from 15-20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years which [is required] to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy, exposed to the ideology of the enemy. In other words, Marxist-Leninist ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least three generations of American students, without being challenged, or counter-balanced by the basic values of Americanism (American patriotism).
         
        The result? The result you can see. Most of the people who graduated in the sixties (drop-outs or half-baked intellectuals) are now occupying the positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, [and the] educational system. You are stuck with them. You cannot get rid of them. They are contaminated; they are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern. You cannot change their mind[s], even if you expose them to authentic information, even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still cannot change the basic perception and the logic of behavior. In other words, these people... the process of demoralization is complete and irreversible. To [rid] society of these people, you need another twenty or fifteen years to educate a new generation of patriotically-minded and common sense people, who would be acting in favor and in the interests of United States society.
        [–]moonpresence-MI 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        well written, pede. We have the best writers and storytellers. They're so, so good and great and they're just wonderful people.
        [–]HimchaseTX 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        That was a fucking fantastic write up, well done pede, well done.
        [–]MagaMagaChooChooUSA 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
        That's all well and good. But the most immediate thing is all 6 major Hollywood motion picture studios were recently bought by the CHINESE. That's why you see Chinese propaganda where China comes in and saves the day in every other movie now. They're scared that we're going to bitchslap their masters (we will)
        [–]YoureFired555 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        You should be a writer for Forbes or ZeroHedge. Your paragraph structure is a little weak, though.
        [–]WethrinaerMO 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        This. So much this. The religious takeover of the conservative party worked out fine in the 60's 70's and 80's, but American culture is moving in a more secular direction. There are more self identifying atheists and agnostics in America than ever.
        No religion should call itself the religion of the United States. It's incompatible with our Constitution and Bill of Rights. We are a country of many belief systems, and to hold one above the other is to invite trouble in the future when you are in the minority.
        I've said this a million times on this sub already, but SJW culture and their degenerate tactics are now being rejected in the same way that the right was being rejected for being under the thumb of religious leaders.
        [–]DeadLightMediaNY 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        I'm sure there will be a lot of comments from the religious old guard conservatives that still exist but this post is 100% right. I hate the moral posturing and religious law attempts of the Religious Right every bit as much as I hate it from the Left.
        I'm glad the party is being reinvigorated and I hope the religious infusion into the Right wing stops. I don't care if you're a Christian but I want you to keep it out of politics. I don't want religious laws.
        I want a logical no bs party who opposes authoritarian government. That's the party I can get behind. Not a party who wants big government when it suits them.
        [–]lappathUT 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Read all of it. Decent.
        They're freaking out because they're pedophiles.
        [–]Basedeconomist 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        ** CULTURAL VICTORY **
        [–]MOEsaintCOOL 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Nail on the head my friend.
        [–]MuntbergCAN 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        I was told it's because Hollywood is run by jews.
        [–]briaen 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Take marijuana off the schedule and the victory will be complete. Blue team will fall apart trying desperately to find a way to make it look bad.
        [–]emanresumy 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Hollywood charlatans see themselves as defenders of the faith in a business that is 99% Liberal and like minded. No consequences or repercussions. Try being a conservative. Put American jobs and people first. That's real courage.
        [–]Lens_of_HistoryUSA 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        The Cleveland Indians could have used you in Game 7.
        You just hit a walk-off Home Run!
        [–]triptrop702 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Some of it publicity, I wouldn't of even of known the golden globes awards where last week, or even knew glen close won an award. I'm sure I'm not the only one that only knew about because of the anti trump speech.
        [–]CHOOSE_CHOOSE_TRAINCA 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        You missed the pedophilia ring
        [–]Chris_Dorner8CA 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        The show This Is Us is their porn.
        [–]DreamingfalcoSVN 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        This should have been an op-ed somewhere, then again it kind of is on The_Donald the new media ;)
        [–]Gunslinger_11 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        The battle for the soul of America was won, Hollywood is making one last attempt to bring it down, a childish one at that cough.
        [–]Dubababa2222 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        I WOULD NOT FUCK MERYL STREEP.
        [–]inquirerAL 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Great post!
        [–]neutralvoter 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        don't forget about the apology culture they thought they had in the bag. Anytime you even hinted at stepping out of line it was the grand public apology and if you really were naughty some fake tears to boot. But, Trump never apologizes, no matter what. And a tool that they've been taking for granted the past several years is once again up for grabs. Because apology tours are and always will be silly and meaningless.
        [–]MBKUltraCA 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Hollywood is mad, because they "donated" millions of dollars to Hillary. They had fund-raisers in their mansions, shilled in ads for her, bought her shit hook line and sinker, and can't admit they were DUPED. They believe the bullshit they spew!
        [–]MH370BlackBox[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        This is one of the best posts ever for this sub. Great analysis OP!!!
        Mods need to sticky this ASAP.
        [–]jimmybda3RUS 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Don't forget pizzagate, they're freaking out about that too
        [–]independentbystanderUSA 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)

        10/10 BRILLIANT

        Truth Nuggets™ Overdrive!

        [–]xBigCoffinHunter 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        This is absolutely brilliant stuff.
        [–]baybreezesNJ 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        That's a great analogy!
        [–]BasedHillbilly 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Excellent post and spot on! Thanks or sharing :)
        [–]vaguelyswami 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Great argument....
        [–]thesecretisbanter 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        You completely hit the nail on the head. Try checking out this https://vimeo.com/187307901
        [–]Ferrous_tarkus 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        If you're going to fight in a religion war... you best make sure you have a religion to fight with first.
        [–]BasedCollegeGuyMAGA 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        This was beautifully written. Well done. 10/10
        [–]Bernie_Bro666 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        So basically, Donald Trump is a heretic.
        [–]netsql 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Here is my take: acting is liberal arts. End of story.
        [–]ispeaknotUSMC 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        GOODAMN well said!
        Is there a newsletter I might subscribe to?
        Let me add a point: Hollyweird also FINANCES a good portion of the democong agenda.
        We should ask to take a very close look at the Hollyweird culture in terms of pedophilia (The Coreys, John Travolta) in the abuse of child actors...make them spend their money keeping themselves out of jail instead of subverting the country
        [–]Penisgang 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Many of these people avoid paying taxes as well.
        [–]rzv99 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        The alt right knows why Hollywood is freaking out.
        [–]vitayminMAGA 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Beautiful writing pede
        [–]thebabyseagullUK 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Hollywood is full of Pedos that are protected by the shadow government.
        I think they are terrified trump will put them in jail.
        [–]tiltowaittRUS 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        MFW 2483 points and 98% upvoted.
        Good post.
        [–]KleeminLA 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        I honestly think it goes beyond that. CONSPIRACY THEORY INCOMING, find a tinfoil hat.
        With all the industrial jobs going out of country and virtually no exports America fails. The only industry export left would be entertainment. We already see this a bit, America produces and exports so much music, movies, and television (and now internet "tv" programming) that Hollywood would become the financial capital of the US. So ofc these Viacom/Comcast/Time Warner execs want this, that way they become the future Soros'/Rothchilds. That's why they brainwash these actor retards to spout off all that Blue Church bullshit.
        [–]Brexit_CentipedeENG 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Brilliant post Centipede
        [–]notjaffo[S,🍰] 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
        I can't claim credit for the progressivism as religion meme. If you want more of this, go to the source that inspired me: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/
        Moldbug was the red pill before it was cool.
        [–]FoamHoam 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        Great work.
        I think the average The_Donald subscriber is ready for NRX.
        The alt-right is a dead end for charlatans and goofballs.
        [–]VillageMask 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        Regardless, good job on spreading it. This is perfect framing and will stick if it spreads.
        We should meme this, make short bits to awaken a few more hypnotized liberals.
        Even John Olivers show uses a hypnotic structure, just like religious shows, to draw in people.
        [–]tvfilmNY 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        A lot of people in Hollywood voted for trump, more than you think, they're just staying quiet. Not a majority but there is a good silent minority.
        [–]doppleprophetOH 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        “
        For the first time in decades, voters explicitly rejected the Blue Church, defying hours of daily cultural programming, years of indoctrination from the schools, and dozens of explicit warnings from HR.

        REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

        [–]adlpsfko 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        MDE NEVER DIES
        [–]SkyBlueThinkUSA 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        You are absolutely right. The culture war is real.
        [–]SupremeMemeLord 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Sam Hyde was really cool, loved MDE, really sad he had to go and kill all those people.
        [–]IC-1101 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Party's over!
        [–]onlyhere4trumpCA 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Exceptional insight. What I have come to deduce is the hippie counterculture that fought authority at every turn is now coming to grips with the consequences of raising a generation That is doing the same, whether that was their intention or not. The counterculture became THE Establishment, and a corrupt establishment at that. We are the new counterculture. We've been raised to reject authority and question everything, that includes the lies we've been fed our entire lives.
        [–]ZubiZoneTX 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Adult swim?! No! We want Trump swim!!
        [–]pasholty 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Very well written.
        [–]U_WANNA_GET_JAMMD_UPPD 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        MDE: World Peace, in my opinion, was the first trial run for the new, culturally right-wing entertainment. Too bad Tim Heidecker is a cuck and had AS nuke it.
        P.S.

        JOE BERNSTEIN IS A BLOCKHEAD

        [–]richard-io 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        I think you've explained it perfectly. Nice piece.
        [–]BeardedcapUSAF 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        The "progressives" are a god damned joke. I've argued with the Bernouts on here. One second they're yelling that the cold war is over, then they're comparing Bernie honeymooning in the USSR and Trump buddying up to Putin as if Russia is our enemy. They aren't progressives.
        [–]SluggocideHI 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        I think the real reason Donald Trump scares everyone is because he's like an MMA fighter who is walking back behind the curtain at a pro wrestling show in the 80's and they don't want anyone to know what they all have going on in the back because they are still selling it as real. They'd rather burn it all down then get exposed. The extreme reaction to donald trump by all of the actors in the media and politics is because they haven't vetted the guy as being in on the hoax yet, so when he gets in they are nervous he's going to blow the whole thing open.
        [–]rsuh6 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Preach!
        [–]Goasupreme 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        I'm assuming quite a few of them have illegal aliens as maids/houseworkers or maybe they are legal but get paid minimum wage
        [–]prettyflamazingOR 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        I think we all know who's really behind this cultural war. They're now trying to normalize pedophilia to the guillable masses. Unless we fight them, the very fabric of morals that keeps our society together will be torn to shreds.
        [–]damha 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        great read
        [–]capnflummox 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        starts a slow clap while slowly rising from my chair...
        Bravo. Well spoken.
        [–]The_Real_Adam_West 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)

        HOLY FUCK THAT WAS BEAUTIFUL

        [–]Useful_Vidiots 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        As I've said for some time, politics is the new religion. The human needs it in some form and as more move from traditional beliefs they find their new personal mission/purpose. The result; blind faith in our side, everything with the other side is wrong, and STONE THE BLASPHEMERS!!!
        [–]amicuscodexOR 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        This should go to American Thinker - OP, please submit it! http://www.americanthinker.com/static/contact_information.html
        [–]R40ul 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        They were all fine and dandy when the nihilists burned down the church. Now that they've set their sights on the liberal ideals, they worry for their boutique coffee shops and Apple stores. No hipster will be spared the ubiquity of being equal with the unwashed, unfed, uneducated, fucking white male that manages despite these things.
        [–]Brialator 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        This is so spot on. Now the right has their own "religion",one based on fact and that truly represents us. I'm excited to see the golden age that is sure to follow.
        [–]officer_stinkaRUS 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        When the plot of Rocky 3 becomes real life.
        Edit: Well, at least the first half.
        [–]nice_halibutCA 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Hollywood and media elites fell into the 100% Trap. They effected a blanket condemnation and disapproval of Trump, his supporters and his policies, firmly unwilling to grant or concede that maybe some of these had some merit. Nope. They said he was an asshole, period. His ideas were crazy, all of them. And his supporters were lunatics, all of em.
        In politics, when your opponent is very popular, a 100% rejection of them and their platform paints you into a corner from which there is no escape. The only way out is to double back and reject what you yourself said earlier. That 100% rejection throws away the chance to pivot gracefully. By being generous and realistic enough to concede the obvious ("some of my opponents ideas are good") you look credible and have a fig leaf to pivot around from a go-nowhere, battle-of-attrition stance to a position that puts you into political play again, pulls you out of mere antagonism.
        The Blue Church is painted into this corner. There is literally nothing for them to do for the next eight years but bitch, moan and complain. That's gonna get old quick. I think it already has. It's gonna be exhausting and boring as well. But that's where they are.
        [–]geckogoose89 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Well said. Thank you for posting.
        [–]qotsa9652 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        You sir, are appointed St. John of this new religion. Very well written.
        [–]thisisATHENS 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        OP, great post. No Republican has ever threatened the liberal establishment like Trump. Nixon, Reagan and Bush could all win huge victories, but they're totally irrelevant if the media and Hollywood could just undercut them constantly.
        This time it's different. I don't think many realize just how big of an event Trump is.
        [–]itooktheredpilltoo 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        I think what the liberals don't understand is that Trump is a classic liberal, not a neo-lib that's gone off the deep end. He's anti establishment, pro free speech, pro individual rights, he's an original equal rights and feminist, not the modern affirmative action shit, and the only thing that he may he different is that he's pro business. But he's neither neo-con nor neo-lib which is his main appeal.. he fucks the establishment.
        [–]dbryhitman 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        “
        Watching a 90-pound Sci-Fi heroine beat up a room full of giant evil men is as satisfying to the left as John Wayne westerns were for the right.
        If you're referring to The Avengers, I think Black Widow is supposed to be genetically enhanced.
        [–]Brand_New_FoolEU 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        And I thought Hollywood is just jealous because Trump stealing their show.
        [–]tiedupknoths 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Yep. Hollywoods scared cause they know their worth is going down. Not only do people not care about what they have to say or what they get up to, but because they know that they're just glorified humans. Nothing more.
        [–]nombre1 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        This post is absolutely golden, but I'm hesitant to thank /u/notjaffo and others by giving money to a corporation like Reddit that actively suppresses and subverts our beliefs.
        What alternative ways do you suggest to show gratitude to the posters beyond a simple Reddit upvote?
        [–]deepelemblues 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Reagan didn't stumble into a social victory, he helped prepare the ground for it for 15 years and more before 1980.
        [–]InfinitySupreme 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        If Trump stops or reverses cultural marxism, he will be the greatest President ever.
        [–]WolfgangK 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        You really went out of your way to avoid naming a certain group of people that hold grudges for a very long time.
        [–]McClane68 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        And spirit cooking is their form of a barmitszpva
        [–]Noastroturfinthissub 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        I dont think this at all. I think people voted Trump for economic reasons and a refutation of the lefts social progress into lunacy. I don't think it was any part of America realigning socially with the right.
        [–]WolfessStudiosAZ 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        It made the young people feel so special about themselves jacking off over it and made it easy for any reject to fit in. But no longer! Sissies BTFO!
        [–]fastbeemer 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Can I borrow this?
        [–]2017-The-Awakening 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Ramzpaul's video about the Dark Enlightenment may be relevant. Love how he talks about "the cathedral" of the Left - spot on!
        [–]xxb4xx 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        I'd post this in /r/bestof, but the little snowflakes of Reddit will either delete it or just come here and brigade it.
        [–]frankenboobehs 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        These elite are cut off from real society and know NOTHING about the problems plaguing everyday working Americans.
        That's why they spread bull shit about ACA insurance, NOT ONE OF THEM IS ON THESE PLANS, they know NOTHING about how a family pays more in premiums than they do their monthly mortgage, they know nothing about the bullshit OT laws obama worked on that screwed my husband from being sallary, to being demoted down to hourly pay, where he's now not even guaranteed full time hours, they don't worry about the higher and higher taxes, because they make so much money it doesn't affect them at all.
        I wish they would stop trying to shove their shit pie down our throats. We go to hollywood as an escape to watch some fun movies, we don't need them shaming us for trying to survive.
        [–]sophistibaitedARMY 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        This is fucking brilliant. Well said.
        I'm not a big fan of Christianity. I'm more of a deist: I believe there's a god- I just don't have a fucking clue what form he takes.
        However, I realize the importance of Christianity (or for that matter, Buddhism or even Judaism) in society. Moral relativism is a real problem that tends to take over in the absence of a religious foundation for morality.
        I've listened to atheists (Dawkins, Sam Harris) ramble on about how humanity is totally capable of building that foundation in a secular society, but so far, they've fallen far short.
        Even though many of their adherents would doom me to hell for being a nonbeliever, I think Judaic/Christian values are important. Personally, I'd rather see some offshoot of Buddhism become more popular in western society but I doubt that will happen.
        [–]wuziznameCAN 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        It saddens me to think that "family values", "freedom" and christian values are part of the modern counter-cultural movement.. how far we have slid.
        [–]brampo 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Your use of the term "hippie" is kind of problematic to me, as a long haired, recreational drug using, bicycle riding, college drop-out musician/barista, registered dem who voted trump, but i get it. Im interested in local economies and sustainable agriculture, free markets, and anti-globalism and identify with the term hippy to some extent, although its antiquated. Streep and hollywood dont represent the true Americana of the forward thinking implementation of capitalism i, as a "hippy" seek to embody.
        I think self-supporting artists are groovy but rare. I think they are true patriots. Peace, love, and personal charity, while maybe being ideals instilled in myself through a christian upbringing have been transmutated with ideas of prison and drug reform to make me nore libertarian than anything, but essentially, this is what will MAGA
        [–]Bliss_of_reverie 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Makes me wonder what happened to enlightenment culture. Like, real rationality. The left threw it under the buss for the sake of enforcing "equality". Scientists get sacked for not adhering to feminist ideals and neurologists can't speak about the differences between men and women because it's not in line with the politics. The right seems like it always cared more for social cohesion and shared identity than any kind of unconditional search for truth.
        I want my science back. That's all I really care about. I love Trump and what he stands for and dispose the lefts social control with a fury, but in the end the only thing that can actually move us towards new and interesting horizons is scientific rationalism, or whatever term you use to say "searching truth unconditionally".
        [–]President-of-RedditMO 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        “
        Jon Stewart and John Oliver are basically TV preachers. Watching them gives the same sense of quiet superiority your grandma gets from watching The 700 Club. The messages are constantly reinforced, providing that lovely dopamine hit, like an angel's voice whispering, "You're right, you're better, you're winning."
        Holy shit pede. Your hammer is mighty
        [–]red-african-swallowTX 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Thanks for the update portion
        [–]Reddit_SuxsCT 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Wow, I could not have said that better myself. It is funny, the more they censor us and the more they fight back the harder we push because the fate of the world depends on us never saying die. We can feel their desperation and WEAKNESS with every banning and every article and show they censor. Honestly, grab em by the pussy is when they should have known they were just feeding our fire. Trump could have said anything at that point and we would have voted for him. Libtards, the blue, will never win again if I have a say in the matter. Never let people that live in a bubble control your lives.
        [–]TellMeTrue22 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Excellent post
        [–]bowie747AUS 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        They may have to actually face the stark reality of reals over feels.
        [–]It_could_be_better 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        “
        They don't appeal to your morality,
        Funny, my instinct told me immediately, this is wrong, you're wrong. But you're right! How easier would it not be for you to sleep at night than to say: let all the poor immigrants come to our rich country.
        But than reality kicks in.
        [–]CenomaniacMAGA 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        “
        Jon Stewart and John Oliver are basically TV preachers. Watching them gives the same sense of quiet superiority your grandma gets from watching The 700 Club. The messages are constantly reinforced, providing that lovely dopamine hit, like an angel's voice whispering, "You're right, you're better, you're winning."
        SO true!
        “
        Red Conservativism is a business, selling a set of political products. They don't make you feel good, they don't appeal to your morality or your spiritual sense of self, but sometimes you really NEED one of their core products
        I think some of the hardcore anti-abortion/christian evangelist crowd gets off on feeling morally superior too.
        “
        I think Christianity will come back, once the culture shifts, but the initial energy has to come from something else.
        I highly doubt it will come back, nor should it. If the right can figure out that the ridiculous religiosity has been hurting them for the past thirty years I think we'd be in a much better place. The republican party needs a slightly right-of-center socially libertarian fiscally responsible middle-class core rather than an evangelical base in rabid support of the ultra-rich.
        [–]Scaffolds 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Eh, Stewart, while critical of Trump, is at least honest about it, and the abject hypocrisy of the left. He also was really, really brutal on Clinton when he spoke to David Axlerod.
        [–]TD_LURKER 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Brilliant insight. When you talk about Meryl Streep's fear of change, I think another point is that since the dems won the culture war and moved the country center-left, a lot of dems are now accidental republicans, because left-wing ideology has nowhere healthy to go. No dem I know decided in 2008 that they were going to be for 93 genders, pedo acceptance, illegal aliens, and a foreign culture. The current dem platform has nothing to do with everyday americans.
        [–]PhillyNekimPA 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        when they lose culture control over america the establishment will be uprooted overnight
        [–]cheekygorilla 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Anyone else get a civilization vibe in this post? cultural and religious victories lel
        [–]Vapourface 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Blue is: let's make everybody into a tame dullard, misinformed and delusional, weak and isolated, disarmed and frightened, hypnotised by wall to wall bullshit in hotpants. Witness to regular public death by ostracism-tsunami to anyone not identical/whosoever comes along.
        Someone got thru.
        Red is: let's not make anyone into anything let's have freedom again. It's a reaction that transcends and [lovingly?] includes all past forms of red. You can do and be what you want, please do. But we have guns and memes and good information, we are connecting, and we are now in a good mood and happy and getting all the laughs.
        [–]Vapourface 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Blue is: let's make everybody into a tame dullard, misinformed and delusional, weak and isolated, disarmed and frightened, hypnotised by wall to wall bullshit in hotpants. Witness to regular public death by ostracism-tsunami to anyone not identical/whosoever comes along.
        Someone got thru.
        Red is: let's not make anyone into anything let's have freedom again. It's a reaction that transcends and [lovingly?] includes all past forms of red. You can do and be what you want, please do. But we have guns and memes and good information, we are connecting, and we are now in a good mood and happy and getting all the laughs.
        [–]freedomfilm 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        And because this is the first time the Red Church as a leader strong and influential enough to get people to stop paying to go see movies made by the Blue Church.
        [–]bullseyed723 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        “
        UPDATE: Adding one thing in response to comments. Nothing against Christianity, I really wish it still had cultural power. But we can't keep wishing for it to come back or pretend it's still 1958 somewhere, not in an age when the Pope is the new spiritual leader of the progressive left. I think Christianity will come back, once the culture shifts, but the initial energy has to come from something else.
        I don't think the pope is lost yet, but is close. One of the biggest reasons for my drift is how he did the whole global warming meeting and invited Bernie. Sorry for the fake news site link but: http://time.com/4296737/heres-what-bernie-sanders-and-pope-francis-talked-about/
        [–]jubub52775 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        What's this, Hollywood hates trump? Not surprised to say the least but they all think he's a Nazi so maybe we'll get some decent WW2 movies at least
        [–]Lil_bit_of_this 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        They longer "know someone" in politics, who were once able to give them favors, I'd assume to some extent. It's like when your dealer that always hooked you up leaves town, and now you have to find a new one..
        [–]nurvus 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        Beautifully written and well said! I love it!
        [–]KarlOskar12 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        I know a lot of people in here recently (post-election mostly) have really been on the "bring christianity back to the top!" bandwagon. But I think you missed the part where Trump isn't a champion for christianity. He just happens to be running for the Republican party which houses a lot of people who would probably like to get rid of the separation of church and state.
        [–]siriusgrey 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        If you're looking for a hard truth christianity, go back to the original. Orthodox christianity is super based and unchanged from the very start
        [–]brikkwall 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        well said
        [–]Pr0fessorXboxOR 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        😳 this is a great read and spot on.
        [–]Naram-SinCAN 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)

        TREMENDOUS

        [–]patriottoNC 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
        very well thought out, OP
        [–]patriottoNC 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        who would downvote this? CTR is that you?
        [–]vitriolic_truth 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Wow, fabulous take on things!
        A++ for the religion analogy! Makes it very relatable to a lot of people.
        I will be saving this.
        Thank you!
        [–]TheHighestEagleUSA 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        One of the best posts I've seen on here in a while. Great job OP.
        [–]TilbiusNJ 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        so.... trump is jesus?
        [–]ImAllOuttaBubblegumUSA 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        I logged in for the first time in weeks just to upvote this.
        [–]iltdiTXMeMeMeOkieDoke 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Well said! The political battle was won but the cultural war has just begun. They have a total monopoly on the media, Hollywood and academia. I would say the first 2 are being defeated now but the war on academia hasn't even begun
        [–]sittingheretyping 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        WHOA. This post just blew my mind... I've never thought of it like this.
        [–]DragofireheartNH 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        I see some people beating you up over the anti-Christian comments.
        To that I say: Dungeon's & Dragons.
        Yeah. Christians back in the day were almost as bad as today's SJWs and worse in other ways. That truth needs to be accepted so you can learn from it and become a better religion.
        [–]AvadaKebabra 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
        This deserves more than one upvote, and I'm not funding Condé Nast, so have a Reddit Silver.
        [–]Neuermann 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Very nice.
        [–]Trump_Image_Library 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        I think one of the big intersections of Hollywood and politics is how they frame the moral arguments and the characters in the moral arguments. Any movie that purports to show a true story usually has certain character traits enhanced and others diminished. The character who represents the "good" is conflicted sometimes, maybe has one bad quality to them, but is true of heart and morally right. The character who represents the "bad" is given that extra sheen of evil, and they make that extra snide remark to let you know that this is the bad guy.
        Oh, in case you didn't know, the good guy is liberal/progressive and the bad guy is conservative.
        When HBO does a biopic about LBJ, they might include one of his more mild personal bad habits - something a wee bit racist or rough-around-the-edges - but it's something he overcomes by doing good and signing the Civil Rights Act. Meanwhile, whoever they made as the main 'villain' is never given a realistic portrayal of their views, but has their worst version put forth.
        Another one was Trumbo - a touching portrayal of the plight of writer Dalton Trumbo, who was persecuted and vilified, all because he wanted to turn the U.S. into a communist state. Poor guy! What an injustice!
        The great problem is that 50 times as many people will see the movie Trumbo than ever read anything critical of him, or understand why communists were rightfully distrusted and blackballed from Hollywood. The movie version becomes the one remembered in peoples' heads, even if they do end up later reading the dirty details.
        Look at some of the ones you've heard of from this list from the last 5-10 years particularly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_based_on_actual_events
        A solid HALF of the ones I've heard of are invariably: some historical (or unjustly ignored) figure who was part of (Oppressed Identity Group X) rises up against the (racist/homophobic/sexist/____phobic) society of the time (which was full of bad, bad thinking) and achieves something great (the movie version usually vastly overstates this part.) The very formula is now that you have to be the rebel fighting against the man in order to be heroic.
        That formula has gotten pretty old, but it's still one of the only ways Hollywood wants to deal with historical drama: attacking the old society for its backwards ways and turning to the audience and saying "you don't want to go back to the BAD OLD DAYS where ___s were _____d all the time by the evil monolithic white christian society, DO YOU????"
        So it's very important that we have counterprogramming for that. A lot of the attempts I've seen are downright counterproductive, though. You see these treacly-sweet b-movies starring Kirk Cameron or whatever, that are just sort of laughable.
        We need more guerilla gonzo underground filmmaking about historical figures. Throw light on the real story of what went on. Blow myths apart. But it has to have edge, it has to have smarts, and it has to have a point.
        [–]-Corvo-FL 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Butt-hurt neckbeard atheistic virtual signaling.
        [–]SlothB77VA 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        since Reagan stumbled into one in the '80s
        I disagree. He knew exactly what he was doing. Let's not make it out like he accidentally did anything.
        Watching a 90-pound Sci-Fi heroine beat up a room full of giant evil men is as satisfying to the left as John Wayne westerns were for the right.
        these are so ridiculous.
        [–]northernwindsUSA 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        “
        not an explicit religious faith like long-dead Christianity
        Seriously... what the hell is wrong with you attacking my religion?
        [–]Rival_Daze 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
        I was just a teenager on 4chan about a decade ago, laughing a the og memes, and interacting with clearly insane but quite interesting people.
        I have no idea how I ended up here and how I ended up being the most sensible respectful young person in my family.
        Internet is magic and this generation has a whole lot of us "Trump" cards up it's sleeves. future looks bright hopeful funny and just a little bit twisted.
        Fantastic.
        [–]notjaffo[S,🍰] 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
        Don't want to get sappy on you, but you and people like you are why we're all doing this. You're the generation we have to reach if this whole thing is going to work.
        [–]Rival_Daze 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        o7 Thank you and not to get sappy on you but I know for a fact I wouldn't be me without wiser people reaching out and helping me (And arguing with me) on my way, do keep it up some of us truly appreciate it.
        [–]Jrittz 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Beautifully said and explained. I consider myself an agnostic and do not believe in any god, but this country and it's children need an old fashioned Christianity dominated culture, because clearly the fall of Christianity in America has been parallel to the rise of social justice and virtue signaling. Theists do not fall for the lefts brainwashing, because all they need is with their OWN faith in whichever god they believe in. A lot of atheists like to act edgy and say religion is bad, but I disagree.
        [–]FluffiPuffTX 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Under the Obama Administration, following Christ has become "dangerous", "seditious" and "unapproved". To claim to follow Christ invites ridicule, harrassment and discrimination. The only approved churches that are allowed to be at the table are those who are "culturally" Christian and are used to oppress and out true followers of Christ. THOSE are the "Blue Churches" and yes, they ARE dying.
        But those of us who are truly a part of this new counter-culture movement know how radical and anti-Globalist the followers of Christ are - we know why we are threat to the Elites...
        It is because followers of Christ believe what the Dangerous, Seditious Founders of this Nation themselves believed:
        “
        that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
        I am a Follower of Christ - and I believe it too.
        [–]AggressiveWalkingRUS 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        This is an excellent bit of analysis OP.
        I do think these Hollywood twats are by and large profoundly stupid individuals utterly devoid of any meaningful self-awareness. So most just buy their own horseshit about how we have LITERALLY ELECTED HITLER!!!!!! And that's the #1 source of upset. (Side point - nice job picking a candidate who couldn't beat "LITERALLY" Hitler)
        But I do imagine there are a few brighter bulbs in that dim constellation who have started to realize that "world view of Lena Dunham" is at one extreme end of a bell curve. And the rest of the fucking curve just finally got sick of having it imposed upon us from every direction.
        [–]SDsc0rch 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        this guy is good
        [–]janarv 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Since Hollywood loves socialism so much, Trump should give it to them. All their fat paychecks will henceforth go to the Govt, which in turn will hand them over a modest paycheck + free healthcare. All their properties will be confiscated by the Govt and they will be provided with modest housing, commensurate with their family size.
        [–]BrodyKrautTX 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        quality post
        [–]realitytvexec 0 points1 point2 points  (4 children)
        As a liberal who works in Hollywood, who creates and produces reality TV. We're not scared... We're just surprised.
        Remember, we created Donald Trump. We gave him a platform, a free weekly commercial advertising how "great" he is. We created this monster. Which only goes to show the power we have.
        When you go home at night, and sit your on your couch in front of the TV. What do you watch? Netflix? Discovery Channel? History? CBS? A&E? You're watching what WE create. And while, in theory, you guys have the voting power with your remotes, we create, we produce, we decide... We have the power. And unless, Oklahoma suddenly becomes a media powerhouse - that's not going to change.
        What does this mean? It means that's that liberal and progressive ideas will continue to be embedded in your movies, TV and digital programming. Here in the U.S. and around the world. You can make a post that gets a few hundred upvotes on reddit, or a tweet that gets a few thousand retweets. I can make a show that's seen by millions. (And i get paid for it!)
        If anyone should be scared, it should be you guys. We were too complacent. But now we're mobilized. And if you don't like it - your only option will be to shut yourself off from the world. Because we are fucking everywhere. Your TV, computer, phone, grocery store, school, billboards, stadiums, bus stops, and more. We're in the driver's seat, and you're just a passenger. And while every now then we hit a speed bump (Trump) this car is only picking up steam.
        [–]textbandit 2 points3 points4 points  (3 children)
        Hate to bust your bubble there chief but we know most of the stuff you produce is biased horseshit made by people who ride unicorns in lala land and have no idea how the world really works. And you are already seeing a shift from sites like fairy land Cnn to Fox News as people get more fed up.
        [–]realitytvexec -1 points0 points1 point  (2 children)
        Thanks Ace.
        I think we've got a pretty good idea how the world "really works." We have houses, and jobs, and healthcare, and families, just like everyone else. Our world is no less real or substantive than anyone else's.
        And to that to that, i've spent A LOT of time, in North Carolina, Tennessee, Florida and Oklahoma, in very small towns, on farms, factories, on Lakes and Rivers, in the woods, with very blue collar, hard working folk, some of them really struggling to get by. And i spend my holidays in the rural midwest. So i'm well acquainted Trump voters, and number of red states. I know your world and don't doubt it's legitimacy. There's no reason you should doubt mine.
        Lastly - CNN, Fox News - that's not what i'm talking about here. I'm talking about the stuff people like to watch. Nat Geo. TLC. The Big Bang Theory. The Walking Dead. Football. Transformers. Star Wars. X-Men. It's all there. And will continue to be there.... And you soak it up. And your kids soak it up. And inch by inch, the world gets better, because of the ideas and values we often put into our product.
        Edit: Spelling and stuff.
        [–]Walrus_ToothGA 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        Well, you make the religion aspect seem dead on with your posts.
        [–]_nadFL 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        ..except for millions of happy folks like me who gleefully cut the cord on the idiot box and laugh at degenerate fools like you.
        [–]LeeroyOfHouseJenkinsNE -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
        scientology
        [–][deleted]  (3 children)
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