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DiscussionI think it's time for another #BlackMarketBlackout (self.Infinitewarfare)

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I think it's time for another #BlackMarketBlackout but this time, we need to make it more well known and get some change out of it.
The supply drop system in this game is getting progressively worse, something big needs to be done about it.
I along with others love this game and have defended it since it was announced, but have now given up on it because of Activisions greed.
We've already got people like PrestigeIsKey and ChaosXSilencer on board, we just need others (and a good hashtag to go with our movement).
THIS NEEDS TO STOP.
PLEASE HELP

#QUITTHEQUARTERMASTER (Credit: u/Skinflint86)

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[–]CodythehaloguyText 69 ポイント70 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Ah yes, another boycott on supply drops. Because the ones done in BO3 and AW worked so well. /s

[–]DAROCK2300Text 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Like it's really gonna make them roll back the update. At this point the only thing that might have them think about making some changes is if the community stops playing the game period.

[–]RAiiZE127Text 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

the black ops version kind of worked with contracts coming out

[–]EvilChameleon09EvilChameleon09 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I remember last year this happening and then a week later Activision announced they had made a billion dollars or so on supply drops.

[–]DJZY25Text 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (4子コメント)

They fucked us badly today.

[–]Poops_McYoloText 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

The system was bullshit to start with. I'm just glad everybody finally woke up.

[–]WeepiestSeeker4Text 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It wasn't BS to start with. AW's was iffy with the Obsidian Steed but BO3 fixed it with cosmetics then IW made the variants really change the way the gun worked. AW's system wasn't that fucked by the end of the year, BO3 slapped us in the face but nothing was overpowerd, but IW is a royal fuck up.

TLDR:

Start: AW-okay, improvement could happen. BO3-great. IW-fun yet balanced

End: AW-probably the best. BO3-not the best yet not the worst. IW-Just completely fucked

[–]voodoovegetableText [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I actually think Blops 3 was the worst. The addition of all those melee weapons ruined the gameplay. And the only ranged weapon I got the whole year (master prestige with dark matter) was a launcher. I stopped playing it for good during the summer, mainly because of all the melee weapons.

[–]EL-HEATText [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Black Ops 3 was way worse IMO. By beating all the mission teams and getting drop duplicates/bonuses I have bought all the variants I have wanted including 2 from yesterday. Only these XP bonus ones and a few others are locked in RNG. The majority you can just buy with salvage. Black Ops 3 I could spend 5k real money and never get the nail gun.

IW does need to add more ways to get salvage now though (contracts or more mission teams). I have almost none left and all the mission teams completed so kind of stuck when the next batch comes out.

[–]DeanjksText 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Upvoted, Im with you👍🏼 Edit: Needs to be renamed QMblackout to reflect IW or even SupplydropBlackout

[–]TheTrueAltruistText 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Did it actually accomplish anything the last time that was done? Over a Billion dollars were spent in supply drops last year.

[–]sp00kigooseText 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No. No it didn't and it didn't last long either.

[–]KeeperNogPointdexter[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It was actually only ~50 Million that was spent on supply drops last year. The 1 billion was from all of Activision-Blizzard's earnings.

[–]TheTrueAltruistText 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seems about right then. The only way a blackout would work is if everyone was on the same page about it, and clearly no one is. It's the haves vs the have nots. The "I have extra money to spend so why not contribute towards a game I like." vs "Back in my day when you paid for a full price videogame you got everything! Why should I have to spend a cent more?!" There's no happy medium with this except for the people the genuinely don't care.

[–]Poops_McYoloText 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Source? I've been trying to do research on this topic and can't find exact numbers anywhere. Did you look through their actual quarterly earnings report? Any info would be appreciated.

[–]Skinflint86Text 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (10子コメント)

quitthequartermaster it'll never work because activision make millions from spoiled children with mothers credit cards.

I actually think it's a much more serious problem than people recognise. If you have kids playing this game as young as 10 or 12 your introducing them to gambling at an early age. This is illegal and like online betting firms activision should be made to seek proper evidence eg passport or drivers license to verify the age of the individual looking to gamble. Electronic slot machines work exactly like the supply drop systems and have rngs determine how frequently they pay out. I fear we're heading towards a future where huge numbers of young adults are gonna be suffering from very serious gambling problems and computer games are going to be to blame. Not just cod most games now have some similar system for these types of micro transactions

[–]jefe8080Text 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Sorry, it's not gambling and there is no state or municipality that will call it that. You are purchasing an in-game supply drop with random items. That's not gambling by any legal definition.

Electronic slot machines DO NOT act the the same way. They are games of chance where you can win cash. If you can't win cash or credit back, just goods (whether random or not), then it's called a "purchase."

Besides, is "gambling" in video games (even if you called it that) really going to create problem gamblers? Is that the same mechanism that causes violent video game players to become mass murderers? Cause that's true. /s

[–]Poops_McYoloText 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

While I agree with you, you have to admit that there are glaring similarities and parallels between supply drops and slot machines.

[–]ctk1175Text 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It is certainly shady as fuck, but technically you can earn the currency to purchase the drops by playing the game, so they would just argue you are not even required to spend money to participate.

[–]Sorge74Text 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Could say the same about carnival games or a raffle.

[–]Poops_McYoloText 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Carnival games are known for their predatory and misleading tactics, as well as games being rigged. Raffles are literally gambling, and you have to report the winnings as gambling winnings to the IRS.

"Regular Gambling Withholding: An organization that pays raffle prizes must withhold 25% from the winnings and report this amount to the IRS on Form W-2G. This regular gambling withholding applies to winnings of more than $5,000. If the organization fails to withhold correctly, it is liable for the tax."

[–]evils_twinText [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

There's been similarities in childrens toys for a long time. Trading cards, pokemon cards, even that machine in the grocery store that spits out a random sticker for a quarter. Go to any arcade and see how you earn tickets to earn prizes. It's nothing new, and our next generation is not going to see a huge rise in gambling addiction because of it.

[–]HozedText 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree, its not gambling. But comparing the game creating a gambling addiction to creating mAss murderers is just silly. Supply drops, crates in CSGO, and card packs in sports games all provide the same addictive aspects as scratch tickets or a slot machine. Except with the supply drops, you are always going to win something... which may be even worse.

[–]Skinflint86Text 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It will give same release of dopamine when you get the one item your looking for same as with gambler getting the right cards, picking the right or horse or getting a lucky lever pull. It's the dopamine release when you get the winner that causes people to continue gambling. There's no science behind what I say it just seems that obviously supply drops are profitable for activision and people are chasing that "high" of getting the shiny gold epic they really want.

[–]AbbaZabbaFriendText 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yea man because this shit is exclusive to games. Have you ever heard of Pokémon cards, Topps, those quarter machines at stores, mystery boxes etc.?

[–]evils_twinText [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's amazing how people who have no idea what they're talking about can be so confident in some bullshit they just pulled out of their ass . . .

[–]ForlornLoaferText 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

We, as a community, did this to ourselves. We enabled this stupid bullshit and are now reaping what we've sown. They have our money, they don't give a fuck. Boycott away. You're nothing but a pinata to them. That's the reality of this franchise. Time to put a bullet in this lame horse and move on. Fuck yourselves, Activision. Sincerely, one of your former consumers.

[–]cptmajestic2Text 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is actually very true, we keep buying it year after year just hoping that it will change. It's like that girlfriend you booted but you keep going back to her because shes, well "loving", but she's still a piece of shit. vicious cycle.

[–]jtcampText 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Unfortunately, a blackout won't work because people just don't care. But this update is a joke. I don't think I'll be touching this game until they bring in the features that are supposed to be there at launch. This is unacceptable.

Edit: Spelling fix

[–]DIV-soupText 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Another? It never ended, for me.

[–]ctk1175Text 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

In every micro-transaction game, one whale spending a huge amount of money on drops will balance out thousands of non-spenders (like myself). Lets be honest, most of the 27,000 people on this sub willing to participate in a boycott don't spend $$ on supply drops anyways, and the casual spenders this update drives away are cancelled out by the 1% or .5% of whales who spend stupid amounts of money on drops. Activision will get there's, which is shitty but unavoidably true.

[–]xHuntingUText 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah because that solved so much in bo3

[–]Vokun93Slide Jump Slide 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've not spent keys in a while, got like 180. So I'm on board. Fuck this shitty system.

[–]ronackostolomText 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

BlackMarketBlackout changed nothing.

[–]PhysicallyInsaneText 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Would 27000 people boycotting the game do anything? Not too hard to play another game and wait for them to make the right move. Then again it's just a game and I really like to play it lol

[–]LooperGamerText [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The previous black outs for AW and BO3 worked so well huh? Look how far we have come? It never worked not even a single bit. WE NEED A GAMEPLAY BLACKOUT STOP PLAYING THEIR GAME. Right now all they have agaisn't you is the chains wrapped around your feet like a slave.

Release your selves from their cluthes and ascend to better games!!

Are you tired of a action on rails campaign that has zero ways of makeing you actually think? For 6 hours all you do is, aim here shoot here, press square here then repeat. You win.

You tired of a watered down multiplayer experience that only exists because one game did so well with its marketing in 2013 that got everyone hyped and was offically known as the COD killer for a minor of its life cycle.

Are you fuc*ing tired of the supply drop BS? Did this fucking update open your eyes to the truth of where their priorites lie? Are you gonna wait another 3 months for them to say "Update imcoming" and hope that they will finnally implement somthing in the game that should've been there at release, and only to find out they added another 600 copy and pasted emblems on to weapons with their half assed design team?

LOOK NO FURTHER FELLAS! Titanfall 1 wasn't capable of correctly destroying COD the first time (Due to microsoft funding, and exclusivity and low content) but... Titanfall 2 I believe does have what it takes and much more, to interest your time NOT YOUR FUCKING WALLETS!

The quality and in-depth they have taken their game in just a sequel is 100% more better then what IW have learnt from ghosts, the IW team went -100% backwards because compared to ghosts, ghosts was the better game it had more depth.

Titanfall 2 unlike IW actually learnt from their mistakes and didnt just copy everything the successful developer (treyarch) do and actually added more content into the game, much more camos and skins for titans and pilots, more ordinances more tactical abilitys and ways to manoeuvre the map! A complete upgrade and with their campaign as a big fucking cherry on top. The multiplayer is so vast and in-depth theres so much you can do it and best of all it doesnt revolve around who dropped the most supply drops.

I urge all IW players to drop their controllers down, STOP PLAYING THE FUCKING GAME, and log in on amazon steal your mommas credit card (Just fucking kidding dont do that, seriously though dont) and buy Titanfall 2.

Invest your time in a game that offers FREE DLC. FOR EVERYONE. PERIOD. A COMPLETED GAME. AN AMAZING AND REMEMARABLE CAMPAIGN THAT MAKES YOU THINK. (hmm this door is closed but I have a time device? Wait a minute I can travel back in time go through the door, fuck theres a fan let me go to the present shit the place is on fire im going to have to witch back, fuck what now?)

Titan combat and pilot combat are 2 completely seperate games in their own! The maps are comparable to only a game like Battlefield with the fluidity and fast pace action of COD. The guns are all amazing and unique and theres no NV4 power house.

Just fucking do it. Save your selves. Break free from your chains.

I mean just look how obssessed you guys are with supply drops, your entire gameplay experience revolves around it, its become the only thing thats worth anything to you. This not what games are suppose to be. Move to a game that knows actual gameplay is more important the weapon skins and varients.

[–]SuperDave81Text 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sub'd.

[–]III-Urban-IIIText -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ahem coughhhhh ahh

https://www.reddit.com/r/Infinitewarfare/comments/51u94k/do_not_preorder_or_buy_iw/

Toldyouso-cough

[–]PlumTuckeredGlassText 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I boycotted cod iw too. H1z1 kotk is so much fun.

[–]KonvictVIVIVIText[🍰] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How about a #CallofDutyBlackout?

The last #BlackMarketBlackout did the square route of nothing.

[–]AceOfCODText 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Good idea, but what about the youtubers like Ali-A and Noahj456 that every time something gets added they blow about $1000 on these supply drops.

[–]KeeperNogPointdexter[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

We somehow need to get them on board.

[–]AceOfCODText 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's going to be hard because they are literally paid by Activision

[–]ivHoudiniText 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Even Ali-A has come out and said he thinks it's a bad COD year and isn't playing IW.

[–]AceOfCODText 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He isn't because to maintain his sub count he goes on neutral bandwagon like every other youtuber.

[–]stiickyText [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

In most cases they are given the supply drops used to make the videos.

[–]xmotezText 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I wish in the future the game developers actually have a say and Activision can't just force them to add supply drops.

[–]Poops_McYoloText 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You're gunna have to play a game that isn't CoD then.

[–]xmotezText -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly i want that to change. Also i already quit cod because of that exact reason and im not coming back until they make supply drops fair and also add leaderboards and barracks into iw

[–]dnkeiserText 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Activision made a billion in micro DLC the last year. Wake up and realize things are never gonna change. Supply drops will always be in CoD from here on out

[–]Drakebrandon69Text 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm only level 44 so I don't think I've experienced how bad the drops are but I just got an epic shotgun that was the banshee. That pretty much ruins it since I can't sell it so I'm down with this.

[–]WeepiestSeeker4Text 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

We need a clan tag for it.

[–]WeepiestSeeker4Text 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I GOT IT. #QTQ (quit the quartermaster)

[–]KittenLOVER999Text 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

can someone fill me in? this is my first advanced movement cod and I only just started playing a week ago

[–]PerrinAybara162GT: PerrinAybara162 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

The main complaint is that the supply drop system add guns that seriously improve a person's ability to deal damage and give a huge advantage (see NV4 Flatline) but this latest update added an absolute shit ton of camos and aesthetic items, diluting the pool. That means that tree purple who are lucky enough to get these guns have a huge advantage, but those who don't are at a clear disadvantage, which is done to drive sales of cod points.

On top of all of that, they devalued cod points by making most of the things aesthetic, and worse, ugly and half assed. Made it pretty clear it was a cash grab.

[–]BlahBlahBlahBluhBlahText [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

But you can craft the NV4 Flatline....sooooo.

Pretty much every 3 days we get two free supply drops from the login bonus. If you concentrate on team missions you can easily get even more stuff.

I have a bunch of epic variants, almost enough salvage to craft another epic I want. Guess how much I've spent on COD points...ZERO! And I'm only prestige 1 level 45, so it's not like I play the game 24/7 either.

People are being way over dramatic with this.

[–]ethaxtonText [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Hey, at least the kids are actually doing something rather than playing a game 24/7. Maybe they'll learn how worthless their opinions really are to big corporations so they are ready for their adult life.

[–]BlahBlahBlahBluhBlahText [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

My advice is to just play the game and enjoy the ride. You will get plenty of variants from just playing the game. And 95% of variants you can craft, so if there's a gun you really like just work your way towards it.

I've played them all, and IW has the best system so far. I have had the most luck in this game compared to AW and BLOPS3.

People are just mad they didn't the variant they wanted, didn't want to work towards crafting it and now the "pool" of skins and variants is bigger so their chances of getting the one they want from a supply dorp have gone down. That sums up the discontent.

[–]sonofalandoText 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I bought the $100 version of the game when it came out and boy do I regret it. I've already quit playing. I should have learned from ghosts and shitty AW. I'm done with advanced movement in shooters and the stupid celebrations at the end of the games. The developers taking nothing about this series seriously anymore. I'm just waiting for a new zombies map at this point.

[–]CREASED_WOMBATText [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It isn't the devs...its activision pushing corporate agenda on them. I feel bad for the dev studios....activision tells them to put things in the game that they know we don't want, or prioritizes stupid shit we dont need over things like a stat system and everyone takes it out on IW Treyarch and Sledgehammer.

[–]BerzerkGamesText 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol its gonna fail like it did in bo3

[–]WeepiestSeeker4Text 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

We need to upvote the living shit out of this

[–]Fr3shlySqueezedText 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why? If you think internet points will make Activision have a change of heart in a matter of seconds then you don't know anything about business

[–]WeepiestSeeker4Text 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know it won't do much but if we actually get people to stop buying them then it'll do something

[–]Vector7707Text 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You mean the boycott that did absolutely nothing? Sure.

[–]Rales007Text 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This won't work guys. There are just far too many people outside this little community of ours, that spend tons of cash. To make a chance you'd have to make Activision feel it.

[–]sickbrerText 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

a band of people who didn't spend anything on supply drops 'boycotting' the supply drops on reddit really isn't going to make any difference.

u/KeeperNog how much have you spent so far on IW supply drops? I'm wondering if the activision CEO will be able to buy his lunch today or not

[–]BroDadDudeText 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

After all this went down, I made this. I think it sums up the situation pretty succinctly. http://i.imgur.com/e7rAG6u.jpg

[–]Fr3shlySqueezedText 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Speak with your money and don't buy the next one, Activision has your money. No matter how many times you try this "blackout" shit. It didn't work the first two times and it sure as hell won't work a third time. You're too naïve for your own good

[–]The_DonatronText 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So what exactly is boycott? Not buying CoD points, or not opening supply drops at all?

[–]RobustssText 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mine started when the game came out

[–]HXINESText 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

🤓🔫

[–]miky5564Text [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I dont think you have chaos' support. He just doesnt like the game

[–]jcwtigers12567Text [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If you love this game for how the game plays then stop complaining about supply drops and just play it, this really isn't that big of a deal. From a business standpoint it makes sense, people love supply drops and gladly spend money of them.

My only problems is I'm worried that this Quartermaster overload is hindering the addition of more important things like Combat Record, custom game lobbies that make sense, matchmaking, etc.

But people will buy supply drops no matter how many of you guys (who most likely already aren't buying supply drops anyways) decide to "blackout" the black market. This isn't worth the anger

[–]TeenFitnessssText [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think this is stupid, anyone who cares will already not be paying for supply drops, making it a big trend won't change anything for people who don't care.

[–]eloc49Text [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

How about don't EVER spend real money on supply drops?

[–]WickedChewText [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I actually quit playing the game. Probably more effective.

[–]ozarkslam21FlXTHE FERNBACK [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

this was a stupid idea the first time, and it is a stupid idea now

[–]xPhilly215Nick199711 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (12子コメント)

I can't wait to not only open supply drops, but buy COD points just to spite this stupid ass shit that isn't going to work anyway.

[–]KeeperNogPointdexter[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

With your pessimism, you're probably right but we might as well give it a try. Something needs to be done, otherwise we will be witnessing the death of COD. Activision needs to listen to their fans and this seems to be the only way to get them to.
We need as many people on board as we can in order to beat Activision.
Battlefield fans eventually got through to EA and DICE with these sorts of strategies.
Activision are on the same level as Konami, IMO.

[–]Pae_PCText 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Do it please. I loved to see new stuff.

[–]xPhilly215Nick199711 -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

The second it seems like this might get traction in the sub (probably won't because it was dumb as fuck last time) I will happily go buy $50 worth of COD points and post everything I got.

[–]Poops_McYoloText 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Why not go buy a different game?

[–]xPhilly215Nick199711 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Maybe I like the ones I have.

[–]Poops_McYoloText 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm just kindly asking you to reconsider purchasing CoD points. You are welcome to do whatever you want, but there are much better uses of your money. Hell, go buy 50 tacos. I guarantee you will regret it less.

[–]FATHEAD661Text -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

😂😂😂

[–]LucaC90Text -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think they should do something like this:

Non duplicate drop: at least 1 of the items is not a duplicate, 40 keys.

COD points drops does not contain more than 1 duplicate.

This would actually make people happier I think

[–]refreshingcokeLOLPhins -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have no interest in buying COD points for this game - I spent around $100 or so on points for BO3.

Theres so much garbage in the quartermaster now that it's just not worth it.

[–]SynthPOPisNiceText -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't hate the update, some of the camos are not copies and some of the copies look nice but we can't stop the blackout train now. Choo choo 🚂 lets harrass the Dev team :3

[–]KianX22Text -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Go fuck yourself