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[–]Entropy-7 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Back in the day when I was in college there was LUG: Lesbian Until Graduation. Some chicks would munch carpet for 4 years and then find their BB in the workplace to settle down.

I have dated at least two bi girls and both were a few jokers short of a deck. They were great fun in and out of the sack but one let her thing ruin our relationship.

[–]Balderdash74 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Crazy in the head, crazy in the bed.

I loves me a crazy bitch... for a few weeks. Then it gets old.

[–]thebrandedman 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, the girl who sent me on the journey here left me for a woman. Fuck her, she gave me something better than her worn out pussy.

[–]antariusz 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's how fucked up the majority of men are these days. In order for a woman to have her alpha fucks party phase, she will get more of an alpha out of a woman than any of the men around her.

Men are spineless, and especially so in the current 14-22 year range. Any teenagers learning from the red pill will have a huge advantage in life.

[–]1nonthaki 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Read Page 100 to 105 of "Bodies and Pleasures : Focault and the Politics of Sexual Normalization" by Ladelle McWhorter .

Science already proved that most women are bisexual (look it up in the Internet). Whatever reason women say to prove it isnt true like saying that checking out a women is to compare the woman's smv with her own and everything & not for ogling or imagining sex with the woman , in any case seems only true for a part of the women population of the world , otherwise there wouldnt have been lesbians , would there ?

Women are inherently bisexual, from teenage days itself . When a girl sees a woman hotter than her , she will feel subconsciously that the woman's dominating over her & it may or maynot arise to a sexual desire just like women submit to a dominant male figure and has sex with him.

There are girls (bisexual) who have sex with girls for sex's sake (the physical part of sex mostly) (i.e. they are attracted to a women hotter than them and also more feminine than them because they compare their own bodies to these womens bodies just like they check the female models in Cosmopolitan Magazine or they are attracted to more feminist dominant SJW masculine woman i.e. dom-sub relationship), but at the same time, these girls might have sex with men purely for the want of attention and not as much to fulfill their physical lust or maybe they are not as attracted to some men (especially non-Chads) as much as they are to an another hot woman. I have seen many Red Pillers saying that women love the feel of a man's cock filling her Vagina and its true , they must like it . But equally so , I have seen/heard about women who have sex with other women and were able to orgasm and quite quickly too by Clitoral stimulation alone , while the same women or many other women werent able to orgasm even after a deep pounding INSIDE her vagina with a Chad's dick for several minutes . Ofcourse , sexual pleasure for women might be very mental.

Ofcourse , women's sexuality might change many different times . Or they could at one time enjoy or orgasm far better when having sex with a man and at other times , have better sex with a woman than a man . And ofcourse , the sexual experience of the partner (male/female) and even the circumstances and the surroundings matter too.

Also , have you ever wondered why mff threesome is more preferred by women than mmf threesome?. Just making a correlation , not a causation. The only reason why mmf is more prevalent (if the legends are true that mmf is more common than mff), is that it is easier to get a third guy than a third girl who is willing and not afraid to have sex with strangers and also because women select female partners judiciously which leads to less mff encounters because of such stringent standards and also because there is more jealousy in mff where the male is one of the female's boyfriend and she risks losing the guy to the other female.

Many women have sex fantasies and threesome fantasies and would do it if there is no risk and if society wont ostracize them. You could easily ascertain the minds of females and validation of some Red Pill theories by this quote said by a woman in the Internet:-

"If I considered having sex with another woman, she's have to be VERY attractive. I am not so demanding when it comes to men, because I am conditioned to like men. So I forgive a belly or this or that. But if I experimented with another woman she'd have to be perfect like the women on TV and magazines, with no cellulite, no marks, no hair, no smells, no pimples.....and that is damn difficult to find!

I guess the lure of that (I really think you shouldn't do it if you are in a stable loving relationship because it can create big ghosts) is to see another woman enjoying our man-making him seem more interesting to me. As for me and 2 men, it would be the eroticism of seeing them touch each other-something we don't see a lot, and to be the "different" one in the 3some, somehow holding power over not one man but two.

But, again, it's something I'd try only with friends, not with a committed BF, fiance or husband. So that way my relationship wouldn't be threatened. I just cannot imagine sharing my fiance at this point with another woman. I would die with jealousy, especially if she was younger and prettier than me. I would become very upset if my fiance went to a strip club to see all those perfect women, imagine having him kiss and stroke them in front of me! I really think women who want to bring other women into their marriages if because they DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT THEIR HUSBANDS ANYMORE AND ARE NOT AFRAID OF LOSING THEM (in case he falls in love with the other woman and they start a hidden afffair-I have heard this can happen)."

The first Paragraph shows women comparing their smv with other women and being dominated mentally by a hotter smv woman . The second paragraph shows women's need for attention and validation from a man or multiple men according to - "somehow holding power over not one man but two". The third paragraph shows that as I said somewhere in this sub-reddit before , women are Comparators (term in digital electronics) or they always are biologically predisposed to compare and bring havoc and sadness to men - thats why they compare themselves with other hotter women, compare beta bf/husband with other Chads etc. Most bitches nowadays are never satisfied. I heard a story somewhere yesterday about a woman texting the Chad she used to fuck before marrying a beta guy that her husband McBeta Guy wasnt able to make her orgasm during the first night after marriage; and I assume that the Chad was able to make her orgasm before .

To all MEN - We are literally fucked.

If there just isnt the risk that society or their own man would find out or that society wont ostracize them even if they found out , then women will be willing to do a lot of things , even morally wrong things , like having sex with a rich/famous actor, doing threesomes or foursomes with Chad etc ; even if these women are MARRIED and they will also hide such illicit acts from their husband.

[–]TheReformist94 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The one comment on this thread,right at the bottom with no replies and only 2 upvotes as I write this,has a lot of important information. The information is all here,yet they're all scratching their heads wondering why women's behaviour don't quite align with their trp paradigm

[–]Argman50693[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (8子コメント)

This makes sense. But how do you explain the high SMV femme women who will dyke it out and sometimes LTR with very ugly/overweight butches? I was having a conversation with my friend last night about this. And he was telling me that one of his cousin's friends is an overweight black butch that will show up to parties with gorgeous women all the time. He even showed me a pic of one of her girlfriends on Instagram and she was fine as fuck, amazing ass, tits, small waist and beautiful face. And I do see similar types of pairs whenever I go out. So many low SMV men have to work hard to get any lays, meanwhile an ugly, short, fat black "woman" can hook up with a ton of physically high quality women. I bet if that woman had a penis, she would not have the same experience in the dating world which baffles me.

[–]1nonthaki 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (7子コメント)

As someone in here said "Women have very fluid sexuality" and they are inherently bisexual . Maybe the black girl might be very dominant and bitchy and loud-mothed which fairly contrasts her more feminine or girly partner who is like a hot HB10 compared to her . As i told , Opposites attract . Its like I mentioned in my comment :-

There are girls (bisexual) who have sex with girls for sex's sake (the physical part of sex mostly) (i.e. they are attracted to a women hotter than them and also more feminine than them because they compare their own bodies to these womens bodies just like they check the female models in Cosmopolitan Magazine or they are attracted to more feminist dominant SJW masculine woman i.e. dom-sub relationship)

When i mentioned this , the first part I meant about less smv girls or ugly SJW feminist dominant type girls checking out/wanting higher smv magazine models type of girls and vice versa in the second part i.e. feminine girls attracted to masculine Women . i.e. dom-sub realtionships .

The black girl you referred to seems to fit the Masculine dominant type and her feminine hot partners seems to feed off her masculine energy , just like I mentioned about "maybe they are not as attracted to some men (especially non-Chads) as much as they are to an another hot woman."

With all these Beta guys around nowadays , women are now less attracted to men and the lesbian part of their bisexuality trumps up over the straight part maybe. I am sure if an Alpha or the right amount of Alpha came around , these women would fuck him anyway . ..just like the post today about a fem-nazi girl who hates men and is most probably a woman , fucked the OP of the post .

[–]1momosgarage 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

@nonthaki, you are correct, with Eatinglue, SaintElliot, Tommy_407, spazgamz, redditer0, raisins3142, ArkAngelEV all being on the same page

I predict grave cultural repercussions for the invention and mass adoption of "race to the bottom", digital dating & the current, over sensitized, female induced, mate screening trends (i.e. UNMET high female expectations of what constitutes a "suitable man")

I'll clarify further

The current batch of Millennial women are doomed & are actually, in a sort of "dead-woman-walking" scenario, that the general population & public health officials are completely unaware of. One day this situation will become a HUGE mental health crisis in the West & will cost billions in healthcare treatment, as government officials try to mitigate the fallout across ALL classes & income brackets

I noticed what I call a "nouveau-ho" trend developing a few years ago, for example, back in the 90's and prior, a female that had a "50+ notch count" was usually involved in a business where they could garner an unusual amount of attention, from higher status males, such as: stripper, model, stage entertainer or actress. Normal women, not performing those types of jobs, in those days, would have needed to constantly project their "availability" publicly, in order to garner a "50+ count". Most sane women, back then, did not do such because they would have been labeled a "slut" publicly, by their peers & family, so their "notch counts" were significantly lower as a result

So, what's changed in the last 15+ years? Due to social media, regular women, even ugly chicks, can now get the same volume of attention today, that ONLY a stripper, model or actress could have gotten in the pre-social media era (note, however, that the status of the males paying attention to these normal women is usually much lower as well)

In the 90's & prior, men had to put in a decent, but not a herculean, amount of effort to get laid, in general. So, for higher status males, pursuing ugly chicks was completely out of the question because that effort was better spent elsewhere (opportunity costs). But today, a high status male just needs to post a good Tinder profile & then waits for the "ugly chicks" to do all the work pursuing them instead. Essentially, the modern Alpha just sits back & "waits for the easy lays to roll in". Also, the digital world, allows these women to have somewhat better control over how much information is released about their "slut activities". At the end of the day, they can keep their "notch count" mostly a secret, by only seeing men that don't know each other, are not a part of their current circle of acquaintances, whom don't live in their localities and/or by "traveling the world" for sex tourism, etc

Back in the 90's & prior, not many men would have thought it was a good idea to marry a former stripper, stage entertainer, model or actress, nor do many men think so today either. However, none of the younger men today have fully realized that a majority of women available, under 35 years of age, are currently living lives that are not much different from a strippers life, back in the 90's and before. Its all disguised now because these women work in offices, at regular jobs and seem like normal people, on the surface, when in fact they are not because of the undue sexual attention that they are able to get via "social media"

The number of "high notch" women has exploded since 2008-2009, POST, the mainstream acceptance of smartphones & social media. Prior to that time, "high notch" women were typically limited to the abused, mentally ill, strippers and/or celebrities (i.e. Heidi Fleiss & Kim Kardashian types). Normal looking chicks, due to this now mainstream tech, have access to something that they did not have in previous decades; the focused attention, of large numbers, of thirsty men. In earlier times, that kind of attention was reserved for the best looking women only, particularly those that actually took the time to look good & put themselves out there, in public, in order to get noticed on a regular basis

The difference between today & the pre-smartphone/pre-social-media era, is that Ho-ing, used to be a LOT of HARD work. Women had to dress nice, flirt properly, going out of their way to find the best clubs, beaches, universities and bars, that they could actually get into, where higher status men hung out, etc. In contrast, today, average women simply get their phone out & wait for hits, choosing the men they like (and at the same time, NEVER learn how to gracefully turn away those men that they do not wish to interact with). When these "nouveau-ho's" meet up, with the "man-of-their-choice", the woman doesn't have to get dressed up, they give their selected men a hard time, shi*t testing, both low & high status males, yet eventually still end up getting laid, without putting in any effort. If any woman had taken this route in the past, they would have been barred entry into the goods bars/clubs, ostracized from the various college party scenes and/or rebuked by their peers/family. In the past, "Ho-ing" was not for the timid, in the old "pre-smartphone world", that was based on face-to-face interactions, coupled with a REQUIRED penchant for good visual style & overt flirting, on the woman's part

"Ho-ing" is the EASIEST its ever been & the laziness of women is clearly shown, by how poorly they take care of their looks, yet still are able to find sex partners, whom in the past would have rejected them for better prospects (again, opportunity cost for the Alpha Males & even higher up Beta Males). Alphas typically aren't "thirsty", except now, they just aren't turning down "no effort lays". To my point, "no effort lays" in the pre-smartphone era required some effort on the part of the Alpha Male, so his time was better spent pursuing the best looking women he could get. This is no longer the situation today

Today those low grade women require almost nothing, in regard to effort, for the Chad's. So the Chad's are basically "taking a sip" from EVERY "public water fountain" that they walk by

The reason why I say, we will see a mental health crisis of untold magnitude, in the future, is because historically good looking, aging hoe's, could always pick up a Beta Bucks', even a good looking one. However, an average or ugly chick, with a high notch count, will most certainly not be so lucky & essentially will have a "Wine Coinsures" tastes buds, on a strictly "Beer Budget", perhaps even a "Water Budget" in some cases. Hence, no Beta or Gama that is willing to take them, will ever compare to the long line of Hot Chads that plowed through them via Tinder, OkCupid, etc

There is also a HUGE mental health crisis looming on the horizon for women that are currently aged 15-30. When the "Carousel Ride" ends for them, they will be far less capable of begrudgingly accepting a "Beta Bucks", for the sole purpose of securing a post-wall, survival position, in a stable nuclear family. I'd bet my house that suicide attempt rates for women, born in the early 1990's and thereafter, will skyrocket, when these single women hit their late 30's to early 40's, ALONE, due ENTIRELY to unmet, unreasonably high expectations

The success of online dating sites has baffled me from the very beginning because you need BOTH men & women to believe they work. When these sites first came out, I wondered to myself, "how in the world does this process benefit any AVERAGE MAN using this new dating medium?" Note, I am assuming that most men, posting here, prefer to know in the first couple of minutes if they are wasting their time or not. In most cases that analysis can be done faster in person. Perhaps some of you somehow figure that out faster online. I personally feel that finding positive hits online is much more time consuming & a sheer numbers game, as opposed to in person

Online dating is & always has been a "hamster wheel" for women, period. The BEST long term outcome would be for the number of males using these sites to drop off a cliff (the 80/20 rule, that we all know to be true, makes it impossible for the 80% to be successful at dating online). To a certain extent I believe that has already happened & is being kept a secret, to keep the gravy train rolling. Online dating has ALWAYS been geared toward the lowest common denominator, hence, we see all the "single mothers are great" articles posted on dating website sponsored blogs

How many rejections does a man need to receive before he quits online dating cold turkey? 5, 50, 500, 5000? Note, I don't mean how a man gets back into online dating after one successful hook-up, or after a dry spell, I mean, how many continuous rejections are required, until they turn away from the method completely. We don't know what that number is, but OkCupid, Match.com, Tinder, etc. CERTAINLY know what that number is & they are NEVER going to let the public know. If Ashley Madison had 5 million accounts with only 12,000 real women using the site, what is the REAL ratio of men to women using Plenty of Fish, E-Harmony, Match etc?

Since the "hamster" is easy to fool, I'd bet there are a LOT a male-bot profiles & male-sock-puppet accounts being managed by staff of the websites, in order to keep these women on the "hamster wheel". I can imagine these companies ALL have some kind protocol for dealing with female accounts that get no interest from real males, where the bot or employee run account sends them messages to keep them addicted to the chasing of "what-ifs". I'd wager they know the minimum number of message pings that will keep a woman on the site, even if they result in no face-to-face meetings. Note, I don't think these dating websites started out this way, but they have had a long time to monitor user behavior & most certainly know that female interest is the key to their survival, even though men may no longer be interested in participating in the online dating process

[–]1nonthaki 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sad and True .

But one thing , I want to say is suppose a girl is about to hit the wall and wants a less Alpha or a Beta partner for life -> Even if she makes him chase her before sex, If i was the Beta guy but If i had Red Pill knowledge, I shouldnt have liked her at all . ... Cause even then, the girls would have been thinking about how Chad is awesome or thinking about how to get Chad in the back of their minds . .. they are still not completely focused on having me or taking me as their true & only partner or dedicating their life to me like a couple does . And chances are , if the right Alpha or Chad came along again while the Beta Guy was still around , the girl would have given him sex immediately to try to make him stay or possibly get committed as her partner .

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This deserves a multi part post.

[–]br_21 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It possibly could be the reverse? They have underlying insecurities and there is a comfort in knowing they're the 'superior' female in the pair. A feminine HB9, but some sort of confidence issue, dating a similar feminine HB7 can feel good knowing even in moments which expose her flaws, she may never be below her partner in most qualities. Apply same logic to a butch girl, but her partner preferences remain closer to masculine traits.

[–]1nonthaki 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ya maybe . Related to this , have You ever seen in college , SOMETIMES, the cute/hot popular girl has a fat/nerdish female friend , who maybe acts as her emotional sop or acts as her confidence booster cause one look at her fat/nerdish friend increases her confidence about her looks , OR having a fat/nerdish/ugly friend could act as a way to artificially hyperbole her smv in front of others . Somewhat like the situation in the movie "Jennifers Body" .

[–]ArkAngelEV 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

A straight woman would rather dyke out than fuck a beta. Always, from time immemorial til the end of our species' existence

[–]raisins3142 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Bisexuality is a big red flag. Most bi women I know are slutty and crazy. So, it will increase over time because women are becoming more slutty and crazy.

We know that women consider most men unattractive. However, men consider most women at least somewhat attractive. I feel this is somewhat cross gender. For instance, a legitimate male 7 and female 7 are beside each other, they really have the same overall attractiveness.

Bi women (and maybe most women) will likely think the female 7 more attractive than the male 7, as far as them trying to be an objective judge.

[–]Markofdawn 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (3子コメント)

That first part of your comment made me lose faith in humanity.

[–]raisins3142 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Just because you don't like something doesn't mean that it is not true.

[–]Markofdawn 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do you believe all bisexual women are sluts then?

[–]raisins3142 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wrote that most bisexual women I know are sluts or crazy. Compare that to how you misquoted me.

Yes, I believe that, conditioned on that I know them and know they are bisexual.

Perhaps I should've written "crazier and sluttier than straight women, on average", which is probably more accurate.

Many men that post here have bad experiences getting into relationships with bi women. It is a commonly mentioned red flag.

[–]GoingTheHardWay 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bi women (and maybe most women) will likely think the female 7 more attractive than the male 7, as far as them trying to be an objective judge.

Women (gay, bi or otherwise) are inherently more valuable than men so this theory would hold true.

[–]mcr00sterdota 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Bi = Red flag. Most chicks say they are bi for the attention. But the ones who are truly bi are definitely sluts.

[–]BusterVadge 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Agreed. Especially the ones that make out in the bar to get men to buy them drinks. Attention whores.

[–]mcr00sterdota 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

If any chick tells me to buy her drinks I tell her shes dreaming.

[–]BusterVadge 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha! Good man. I don't frequent bars all that much but I'll usually say "no, but you can buy the first round and we'll see where that goes".

[–]WabbleDave 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

TIL my girlfriend is a slut.

Then again, I'm bi too. Does that make me a slut?

[–]vagjoina 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Women date other women because:

  1. 99.9% of the time it's because they just like each other. It's really not that deep. It's like, why are so many women and men getting together? Because they have things in common and enjoy being together.
  2. A lot of a relationship is about being able to relate to each other so girls can relate with periods and clothes and makeup and other typically girly stuff. Also it's more likely for women to have things in common with each other than with men.
  3. Women can always admit when other girls are pretty. It's not like when guys are like "no homo". Girls are used to being close at all times (like when we have sleepovers we share the same beds, do each other's makeup so we get close in each other's faces etc) so the jump from that to a sexual relationship really isn't that hard.
  4. Girls are hot lol

Also I feel like the reason why a lot of girls you would consider attractive and girls you would not consider attractive are getting together is that they like each other. Like. They are able to not judge each other. Which you seem unable to stop yourself from doing which is probably why you're on this sub in the first place lol

[–]Argman50693[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well males actually relate to each other and get along with one another far better than with females. Men can fight each other, hug it out and be cool. We also have more in common with each other than we do with females. In fact we judge far less than most females do in general. But you rarely see men hooking up and developing sexual relationships on the basis that they "get each other" because they are men. Homosexual men are a different story altogether and don't apply to this discussion.
As far as my supposed inability to stop myself from judging, don't kid yourself sweetheart, you do the same shit. There are too many of you "compassionate", "non-judgemental" feminists out there who are covertly shallow and have their own insecurities. You have every right to comment and express your opinion, but don't shoot yourself in the foot by attempting to make your little jabs to make yourself feel like a good person.

[–]vagjoina 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wouldn't say that men judge less than women lmao I mean look at this sub

[–]vagjoina 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wouldn't say that men judge less than women lmao I mean look at this sub

[–]Endorsed ContributorNeoreactionSafe 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (3子コメント)

 

  • Child Support

  • Alimony

  • Welfare

  • Food Stamps

  • Females with good jobs

 

Basically women can live can life without any consequences.

So they have no fear of anything.

In their minds their vagina has such power they can:

 

  • Get tattoos

  • Color their hair blue

  • Fuck many men on the Cock Carousel™

  • Fuck women

  • Get piercings

  • Be lacking in feminine polarity

  • ...the list goes on and on.

 

It's basically this:

http://taylormarshall.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Whore_of_Babylon.jpg

 

[–]landon042 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

good stuff as always tattoos and piercing should be almost #1 as crossing them out.

it's them literally telling you they just want to be fucked and their not ltr material, I'll never ltr a girl with tattoos or piercings or any girl again.

like you say, our system caters their every need so they don't need me in a relationship, why should i pick up all that bullshit, I can have more fun while bob orbiter gets all that bs, we win.

Til our country gets so bad or is starts to swing back which it is hopefully

[–]Endorsed ContributorNeoreactionSafe 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

 

When does the cycle end?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalki

 

In Hinduism, Kalki (Devanagari: कल्कि; lit. destroyer of filth) is the tenth avatar of the god Vishnu in the current Mahayuga, foretold to appear at the end of Kali Yuga, the current epoch. The Purana scriptures foretell that Kalki will be atop a white horse with a drawn blazing sword. He is the harbinger of the end time in Hindu eschatology, after which he will usher in Satya Yuga.

 

Pepe the Frog

 

Enjoy the Destruction of the Blue Pill mythology... let the cycle complete itself.

 

[–]Tagut1 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bisexual people are the ones that transmit new diseases

[–]spazgamz 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's cause men are so pussy nowadays it's embarrassing for a sexy girl to be seen near one.

[–]statface21 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How about men going after feminine men? Women have become so androgynous that men starting looking at ourselves for desired traits.

[–]ImSecretlyATurtle 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bi girls are just another variation of women that are fun to sleep with. If they are submissive, it is often possible to convince them to have a 3some with a girl of your choosing.

[–]redditer0 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hello, I'm just guessing but if women are attracted to status and now a lot of women have more status than men, well... that should explain everything.

[–]MisfitMind00 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a consequence of modern culture. Gay relationships are not as ostrascized as they were in the past. Every movie or tv show nowadays portrays gay relationships in order to fill quotas and to normalize this behaviour. Additionally, we live in an age where men are seen as evil and sexist. The misogynist card is always being played against us in popular culture. Masculinity is no longer seen as a powerful trait because it's constantly being portrayed in a negative light.
Consequently, women start thinking that they no longer need a man to fulfill their sex needs. Thing is, they don't choose straight females as same-sex partners (straight as in, OG females with female traits). They choose women that resemble men because biologically their brains are programmed to demand a male partner, but culture taught them that they don't need one. So this creates a conflict in their brain, which results in pursuing relationships with the "fat ugly" women you mention in your post.

[–]1grendalor 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Eh, women have more fluid sexual attraction than men do -- much more fluid. See this book.

The expression of this fluidity depends on environmental factors (culture, social, etc.). Today, lesbian pairings are "chic". Hollywood and the related supermodel world are peppered with it now, from Cara DeLevingne to Amber Heard to Kristen Stewart to countless others. For a hot young woman to have a GF is now not only accepted but celebrated in the media culture. So when that is the context -- lots of celebrity women who are quite attractive being in lesbian relationships, or going back and forth between being with men and women -- it provides a context where that underlying sexual fluidity in most women, which was always there, expresses itself more freely and openly. That's what we're seeing today.

Note that this is quite independent of how women identify themselves. Only a very small number of women self-identify as exclusively lesbian (it's a smaller percentage of women than the percentage of men who say they are exclusively gay). Not very many more women identify as bisexual, probably because they define bisexual in a way that excludes them, regardless of their behavior. So you can have women who have hooked up with a number of women sexually saying that they are not bisexual, or even women who have been in a relationship with a woman before as GF/GF saying they are not bisexual -- which really only means that they are defining bisexual as being something much more limited than the standard definition of someone who is attracted to some degree to both sexes. So, as with everything else, you can't really go by what they are saying (in terms of whether they say they are bisexual), but look at what they are doing (have they hooked up with (beyond 1-2 times experimentation), or dated, other women) to see what is really going on.

So, bottom line, yes all (not literally all, but most) women are bisexual in potential to some degree -- some more than others, but most have at least some latent attraction to other women, whether they have acted on it or not. The current environment strongly, strongly encourages women to act on this, because it celebrates GF/GF relationships among admired, hot, young celebrity women. So in that context you're going to see more of it going on. I think the rise of porn has an influence, too (when women watch porn, lots of them are watching lesbian porn), but that influence is much smaller than seeing many hot young female celebs hooking up with other hot young female celebs. Herd culture and all that.

[–]Eatinglue 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Haven't read any of the other responses yet, so here's my theory. I think many of this "bicurious" phenomenon is straight out of what we talk about here: they're genetically yearning to be with a real man, yet they are getting harder and harder to find.

Example: I was out with a group of girls I work with. Two engaged, the other a lesbian. So girl A (we'll call her April), didn't have to work in the morning, so I proceed to goad her into drinking way too much. Then the talking starts. April A) Doesn't like sex with her fiancé (balding and scrawny, met him before). B) He's a diesel engineer, she married him for his money. C) She messed around with the lesbian in our group months ago and they were joking around about it, although she admitted she didn't like that either. D) She then stumbles to go out her car as I drive them both home, she then proceeds to call and BITCH OUT HER FIANCÉ for being out of town, for an event with his family.

She's chubby, has 3 cats and sits around watching Netflix when she's not at work.

So I guess my conclusion is many of these bisexual women really want men, they just can't find any so they're desperately turning to women to search for some sort of sexual gratification. My story also illustrates some classic RP truths.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think this is the right answer. Gender is not a social construct but so called Lesbos definitely are. 100% socially created by a lack of men. Women get wet over power. If a butch treats them like an alpha it is tingle time. Whether they act on it is totally dependent on the culture at the time.

[–]SaintElliot 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It is because no female is bisexual or hetero sexual their sexuality changes depending on what fits them best. Bi sexual females are females that go for other females because it suits them atm. Females that couldn't find their optimal chad are going for each other because their ridiculous standards don't apply to other females.

[–]raisins3142 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good point, hence why the % of women that other women find attractive seems greater than the % of men that the same women find attractive.

[–]Tommy_407 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There is a plethora of reasons for this. It comes down to though:

All women are sort of bisexual to a point (attraction can be rationalized)

Alot of dominant alpha females in the business world also end up going lesbians for a time regardless of how femme they are, if a man can't fulfill their expectations or whatever, I've seen this happen several times.

Also, my friend who was a junkie (like I used to be), overdosed and died recently. Me, him, and his girlfriend all used to shoot dope together. I went to rehab, he died, she went to jail and got clean.

She was pathetically whipped over this dark triad junkie, she supported his habit and got into every bad situation with him even took the fall once for a few bricks of fucking dope he had. Now that he's dead she tells me

"I've cried in jail more than I ever have in my life. I don't think I could ever love another man again. I think I'm gay"

she has been fucking dykes and dudes non stop since her release. I think this should tell us something. Women will consider bisexuality if things don't pan out. Just my two cents.

[–]SouloftheVoid 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm okay with it, girl on girl is hot as long as both women are attractive. They aren't LTR material but great for plating.

[–]flazznc 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

women are not inherently more bisexual. dig a little deeper into longstanding research that is not chained to identity politics and that focuses on actual behavior cross-culturally over long periods of time . To keep it brief (and therefore brutally simplistic) women are looking for providers/protectors and will engage in behaviors that increase their chances of securing this. Men spread their semen freely to whomever come who may and, as well, to settle disputes, establish dominance or authority, or for just plain pleasure.

[–]SomeGuyNY 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm more curious about a rise in guys becoming bisexual because of the slutocalypse.

It happened in the infamous overcrowding rat experiment that applies to modern western societies as well to some extend: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink

A large proportion of the population became bisexual, then increasingly homosexual, and finally asexual.

https://nihrecord.nih.gov/newsletters/2008/07_25_2008/story1.htm

[–]angelnursery 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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