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[–]EnderVapedBreathing is racist 10.6k ポイント10.6k ポイント  (1491子コメント)

It's a legitimate mental illness, not just tumblrina stupidity. It can lead people to amputate healthy limbs to meet their disabled body image.

[–]pjokinen 2647 ポイント2648 ポイント  (473子コメント)

Or like that woman who poured drain cleaner in her eyes to intentionally blind herself

[–]ziekktx 944 ポイント945 ポイント  (352子コメント)

Wait, wasn't there a similar story where a lady found a doctor that helped her do this?

[–]Jarchen 1066 ポイント1067 ポイント  (351子コメント)

Same story. Her doctor did it for her, waited like 30min then drove her to an ER.

[–]CKowalskiAssault Rifle-kin • don't you pull my trigger • pew/pew/pew 769 ポイント770 ポイント  (341子コメント)

What doctor in their sane mind would do that?

[–]Love_Bulletz 1426 ポイント1427 ポイント  (300子コメント)

Basically she was going to do it anyway so he figured it was his ethical responsibility to make it as safe as possible.

[–]CKowalskiAssault Rifle-kin • don't you pull my trigger • pew/pew/pew 953 ポイント954 ポイント  (191子コメント)

I see that reasoning. But I've just had a short discussion with a friend, who is a doctor and he said that it is still against all ethics and principles of being a doctor. You spend about 10 years studying and working you arse off, just to fix people that are broken. You don't just deliberately break people just because you feel like it is safer so. That is what a psychological ward in a hospital is for. I mean, yes, she wouldn't be fixed but at least someone would be trying to help her being ok with her unimpaired eyesight. Just like people who don't like their legs are helped with accepting them. Where would we be if every doctor just chops legs off because "they didn't want them anymore". Absolute madness

Edit: typo fixed

[–]sprandel 437 ポイント438 ポイント  (68子コメント)

If he believes her to be a danger to herself isn't he responsible to report that as well?

[–]CKowalskiAssault Rifle-kin • don't you pull my trigger • pew/pew/pew 418 ポイント419 ポイント  (59子コメント)

That is what I meant. If he, as a doctor with a medical degree, feels that she is endangering herself, he needs to report that and put her into the psychological wards, immediately.

Edit: fixed a funny typo

[–]PerfectLogic 245 ポイント246 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Yep. Lost alot of good men in the psychological wars.

[–]goodbye_zaynput her into the psychological wars 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

he needs to report that and put her into the psychological wars

thanks for the flair

[–]Nonyabiness 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah, if someone mentioned to their doc that they wanted to do this it is the doc's responsibility to have them admitted to the looney bin.

[–]Jyquentel 83 ポイント84 ポイント  (7子コメント)

THIS ISN'T WHAT HIPPOCRATES DIED FOR

[–]Cerebr05murF 68 ポイント69 ポイント  (1子コメント)

For the Healing Gods so loved the world that they gave their one and only Son (Hippocrates), that whoever believes in them shall not be harmed but have quality healthcare.

Trapper John M.D. 3:16

[–]BurgerLaowaitrans*AH-64kin 53 ポイント54 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Doctor should have driven her to a mental hospital instead.

[–]Ghigs 130 ポイント131 ポイント  (4子コメント)

There's a lot more to that story:

http://www.snopes.com/2015/10/02/jewel-shuping-blind/

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3744706&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=6

The "psychologist" either has a revoked license, or was never licensed. He also apparently posted quite a few creepy messages on wannabe-blind forums.

Allen C. Piening, Psy.D. posted: Dear Chris, Your experience mirrors that of real blind people. It sounds like it was really fun to be a blind woman among friends and share with them your blindness experience. I would like to hear a little about what it was like for you to be there and share your uniqueness with them. I am wondering if you are looking forward to other such experiences. hae you tried shopping independently like going to a mall and trying to find your way around and getting help from clerks of various kinds to see the different responses to your blindness and to go to different places and just be blind there to compare that with being sighted there.

She also stayed at his house for 2 weeks prior to this and it doesn't look like it was a very professional relationship, more of just some people with blind-fetish who met online getting together.

[–]MillennialDanI have monetary dysphoria. I'm a rich dude on the inside. 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So, he's a psychopath. He gets off on mutilating people. Got it.

[–]frotc914 67 ポイント68 ポイント  (7子コメント)

lol that's gotta be a tough sell to your state medical licensing board.

Like why not get a psych hold on her?

[–]Love_Bulletz 51 ポイント52 ポイント  (5子コメント)

He did lose his license. I actually really dislike that he's always held up as the example. It puts a bad spin on the whole thing when you start talking about drain cleaner.

[–]TheKingHippo 49 ポイント50 ポイント  (3子コメント)

It puts a bad spin on intentionally crippling people?

I must not be understanding you correctly.

[–]AYDITH 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm not sure he was serious. I think he meant like: that doctor gives drain cleaner a bad name.

[–]_procyon 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Or he could have put her in the psych ward. Don't doctors swear to do no harm?

[–]StyluxPro-Magic Anti-Ableist 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (19子コメント)

Well, I guess he forgot his oath. What an idiot.

[–]AWildSketchIsBurned 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (6子コメント)

True. Any normal doctor would have waited just over an hour to bill her for the extra hour. Weird fucker.

[–]caseymae3tw: otherkin 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (2子コメント)

[–]MagnumPhysique 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I never did like seeing my reflection.

tfw ur so ugly that you want to be blind.

[–]Hotshot55Privileged White Male 225 ポイント226 ポイント  (43子コメント)

There's a video on youtube about a guy who would inject shit under his kneecap in order to get an infection to have the doctors amputate his leg and after not being successful he cut his own leg off and was halfway through the second before passing out due to blood loss.

[–]TheLesserAltomare 115 ポイント116 ポイント  (22子コメント)

That just gave me the chills, Jesus Christ that's fucked up

[–]ok_ahoj 95 ポイント96 ポイント  (16子コメント)

Yeah, I've read about a woman who hated her leg or something and wished she was an amputee instead. I'd say it's a legit mental illness.

[–]notsurewhatiam 78 ポイント79 ポイント  (12子コメント)

According to that other article it's called Body Integrity Identity Disorder (BIID) – a rare condition causing able-bodied people to believe they are supposed to be disabled.

[–]zingdingerDefinitely on the Spectrum... 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What you do is dunk that leg into a nice long bucket of dry ice, freeze that fucker beyond repair, and THEN get the doctors to cut it off. This has a higher success rate and is way safer (used very loosely) than injecting shit into you, which could cause more damage to other areas of your body.

[–]archer4364 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

this guy would have done well in saw lmao

[–]Deneb_Stargazer~Trigger Me Timbers~ 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (49子コメント)

Wait, what?

[–]pjokinen 53 ポイント54 ポイント  (47子コメント)

[–]sjmahoney 116 ポイント117 ポイント  (34子コメント)

From the article:

She admitted that she understands why some people would be angry about her deliberately blinding herself. But, she says, “the way I became disabled doesn’t really matter. I went blind on purpose, but I don’t feel it was a choice.”

Okay lady. You chose to do it on purpose but it wasn't really a choice. Makes sense.

[–]WarwickshireBear 217 ポイント218 ポイント  (16子コメント)

that is the nature of mental illness though. you can be doing things 'deliberately' that really are beyond your control without medical help

[–]TheCocksmith 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (7子コメント)

This HAS to be a disease of opulence. I just don't see these things happening in poor countries. Or maybe they are the same mental disease that is identified as something else in those countries?

[–]RemoveBigos 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because in poor countries, they would starve after blinding themselvers faster than a reporter could make a news story about it.

[–]panydsunderwear 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

There are culture specific conditions. In remote regions of India some men are convinced that they're pregnant with puppies and will do whatever to stop themselves dying when the 'birth' starts.

Psychology is weird.

[–]zyphelionTranscranial Magneto Stimulator 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We assume that people are more in control of their lives and decisions than they actually are.

[–]bsbbtnh 66 ポイント67 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Think of it more like having no food, but plenty of dead bodies, and having "no choice" but to eat dead people. You have a choice of starving to death or eating a person.

With mental illness, sometimes you feel as though you have no choice between living with gnawing thoughts/feelings and taking very crazy steps to alleviate them. Mental illness is hard to treat because medication and therapy won't cure everything, especially when they don't know what the fuck is broken to begin with.

What makes it even harder is when a person feels that their normal self is broken, and that they have to essentially destroy themselves in order to become fixed. A good example is transgendered people, who believe their body is "wrong" and that a second change is their cure. Yet we know from studies that trans people commit suicide at alarming rates, even after surgery, which just shows that changing the body isn't as effective of a cure.

[–]PugSwagMaster 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (2子コメント)

except that suicide rates go down after transitioning, and even if its 20 times higher than the general population, that's still under 1%

[–]exitpursuedbybear 340 ポイント341 ポイント  (37子コメント)

Read an article about some of these people. One guy gave himself frostbite on his legs on purpose. For some ungodly reason he decided to do it in a car. So he fills two buckets with dry ice alcohol mix and sticks his legs in and then takes some paralyzer drug so he couldn't move...yada yada yada...he gets his legs amputated below the knee. A few years later they get him on antidepressants and viola he discovers he never really wanted to be an amputee in the first place.

[–]anotherjunkie 155 ポイント156 ポイント  (26子コメント)

The first time I ever read about this disorder was a magazine article at my Uni's disability assistance office about a girl willingly in a wheelchair. I was stunned.

Edit: She lived full-time in a wheelchair, despite being able bodied. She had a bed lift, a wheelchair van, an accessible apartment, and a partner who was willing to help with transfers and everything. She lived a full-time disabled life, without any physical disability.

At the time, as someone recently disabled and learning about living life in a wheelchair, it was absolutely beyond my ability to comprehend. Wheelchairs are fun for about half an hour, and only if you can get back up when you tip yourself over. After that, things like your favorite restaurant not having a ramp, getting stuck in the subway because the elevator is out, and constantly having to ask for help to reach things at the super market sort of take over and most of the fun is drained away.

[–]BrightEyeCameDown 59 ポイント60 ポイント  (4子コメント)

antidepressants and viola

Good job it wasn't his arms that were amputated.

[–]mattfasken 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah at the start of the anecdote I was ready to get out the world's tiniest violin for this guy but towards the end it got a lot bigger.

[–]kevik72Power Ranger-kin 988 ポイント989 ポイント  (174子コメント)

Like thinking you're owlkin isn't mental illness. But really, transability is a terrible name. I thought it was called body integrity identity disorder. Apparently they're almost identical, but transability is the one recognized by the APA's DSM-5.

[–]KnowledgeIsDangerous 163 ポイント164 ポイント  (65子コメント)

Thinking you're owlkin is unfortunate and fairly stupid. Thinking you're an owl is a mental illness.

[–]alex_power3 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (63子コメント)

What's the difference

[–]Triddy 166 ポイント167 ポイント  (56子コメント)

Owlkin realize that physically they're human. The don't think they're literally an Owl. Just that they have some weird, semi-spiritual connection with owls, like they "should have" been born one.

Thinking you're an Owl means you think you have a beak and feathers.

[–]_procyon 97 ポイント98 ポイント  (13子コメント)

Have you never seen the posts where they talk about how they feel their invisible wings?

99.9% of them are not mentally ill though, they're just making shit up for attention.

[–]ADXMcGeeHeez 54 ポイント55 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Bingo

I imagine most are like 13 years old and just want some attention from other weirdos online.

It's when they reach adulthood it's an issue. I wouldn't call it a mental illness, but they're definitely retarded if they actually believe in that kin ish.

[–]newb4 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (1子コメント)

They're no more mentally ill than goths before them. Sure there was the odd one that actually believed they were a vampire, but most are just looking for some sort of meaning in the teenage wasteland of the western world.

[–]alex_power3 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (35子コメント)

Mild mental illness, curable with therapy.

Serious mental illness, probably some deep rooted issues to deal with there.

[–]2kool4medskool 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (34子コメント)

One describes a state which technically could be true/can't readily refuted, the other; a state of delusion with completely inadequate interpretation/processing of external stimuli. Thinking you should've been born an owl or have an "owl soul" isn't really more bizarre than being religious, is it? except the latter is culturally sanctioned.

[–]Dapperdan814 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Thinking you should've been born an owl or have an "owl soul" isn't really more bizarre than being religious, is it?

This. I wouldn't consider "owlkin" or any other "kin" a mental illness, just obnoxiousness. It's adults who, for some reason or another, never stopped playing pretends when they were kids. Instead I'd argue that those who suffer easily from mental illness are more prone to tag along with the whole "kin" craze, rather than it the other way around.

[–]ItsLSD 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Okay I'm a dozen comments deep so I'll reply to this one, what is this new Owlkin craze? Are there a bunch of fucking damn owl people walking around out there? Like moonkins and shit? Fuck that

[–]MikeMars1225 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

An owlkin would be someone who thinks they're an owl trapped in a human body. They may try to do "owl" related things in fleeting moments, but for the most part understand that they are indeed biologically human. Someone who thinks they're an owl would be someone who sits in a tree hooting all night, and tries to eat live rats whole.

[–]KnowledgeIsDangerous 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (1子コメント)

As far as I can tell owlkin are either teenagers or adults with teenage brains. They know they are human but "identify" as something else because they don't feel comfortable with the place in society they are expected to inhabit. In other words they feel more "kinship" with some animal than with the humans around them.

People who think they are owls think they are owls.

edit: Frankly I'm not always comfortable in society, but I don't build my identity around wishing I was something else.

edit2: What I should have pointed out is that by using the word "kin" owlkin are acknowledging that they are actually human. A human with problems certainly, but human. Whereas someone who is regurgitating partially digested mice and refusing to speak human languages is seriously mentally ill.

[–]jroddie4Trans-Swole 563 ポイント564 ポイント  (78子コメント)

thinking you're an owl isn't anywhere near as severe as wanting to cut your own legs off.

[–]ShiftyBizniss 140 ポイント141 ポイント  (30子コメント)

It is if you feel so strongly that you're an owl that you try to modify your neck to behave like an owl's.

[–]kevik72Power Ranger-kin 209 ポイント210 ポイント  (16子コメント)

This kills the owlkin.

[–]SuperDepressingFacts 126 ポイント127 ポイント  (12子コメント)

This chlorinates the gene pool, however.

[–]Bombingofdresden 50 ポイント51 ポイント  (10子コメント)

My dad's name is Gene Poole.

That is all.

[–]elvismonster 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (3子コメント)

You're not going to believe this, but my dad's name is Jean Pull.

Nothing else to add.

[–]PooperToPinkhole 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Please tell me your name is Richard. I have a friend named Richard Flemm. Would be cool to introduce Dick Pull to Dick Flemm.

[–]OkymyoOmega Shitlord - Ruler of Shitlordia 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Literally.

[–]ScorpyOwns 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or if you alienate everyone in your life besides those on the internet because you legitimately think that you have wings and a beak.

[–]brikkwall 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I mean.. If you climb a 30 ft tree and try to swoop down and catch a mouse it can get pretty severe

[–]DEEZNUTZ 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Unless you land it...then is awesome!

[–]ulpisen 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

depends on in what sense and to what degree you think you're an owl

[–]toxeia 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Well I'm obese, but at least it's not cancer. Guess obesity isn't a disease. We cured it people! High fives!

[–]Kl3rik 82 ポイント83 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Like thinking you're owlkin isn't mental illness

That's completely ignorant. If you said this to me face to face, I'd turn around and walk away, but turn my head 180 degrees to watch you as I leave.

[–]poopisme 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (2子コメント)

For me transability just blurs with all of the other made up words that come from tumblr. It's too similar to so many other things.

[–]SkinnerTBDYggdrasil-kin 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

biid is right. it's like the reverse of phantom (extra) limb syndrome. either the signals from wherever don't reach the brain or reach it properly or the brain doesn't process them properly. you have the part but you don't think you should. different from alien limb syndrome in which your limbs tend to act on their "own".

also, clinical therianthropy is a thing.

[–]trodgerable 62 ポイント63 ポイント  (23子コメント)

It's called body dysmorphic disorder and it explains some trans people's situations. Basically they irrationally hate a particular part of their body and want it removed. Sadly this illness tends to persist beyond removal of the body part and often leads to suicide when untreated. Because of this I think it's important that all trans people see a therapist before transitioning to determine if they are actually trans or just dysmorphic in relation to their genitalia.

[–]Lauren_of_Lore 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Dysmorphia is the word you're looking for, dysphoria is a separate term for gender related stuff

Dysphoria is quite a bit different, trans people don't just focus on body parts; there's dysphoria (mental anguish) that comes from being seen as the wrong gender, having to deal with gender roles, not passing all the way, etc

You won't find many trans people who just want their dicks chopped off.. srs involves actually making a mostly functional vagina

[–]ELEPHANT_SHOE 250 ポイント251 ポイント  (78子コメント)

I think that's the point. CHS is pretty based so she is definitely not endorsing this. I think shes trying to compare it trans sexuality to show "transtrenders" and people that think "oh it's their identity, let them call themselves what they want" the real dangers. If your 13 year old son says he doesn't want his legs anymore? Obviously he has something wrong and needs help. Your 13 year old son doesn't want a dick anymore? Oh that's fine, here's some state sponsored hormones and surgery.

For both groups though, sometimes the pain of being in the body you don't feel you belong in is unbearable, and surgery is the best treatment, but the point of this is to highlight how we should exhaust every other treatment before hand, especially for minors.

[–]iheartearlg 81 ポイント82 ポイント  (58子コメント)

Nobody gives a 13 year old genital surgery. If they still want it by the minimum age (I think 17 is the youngest ever? but 18 in most places) then then no other treatment is going to make that go away.

Likewise, minors tend to get reversible hormone blockers rather than cross-sex hormones.

[–]Magnificant-Muggins 70 ポイント71 ポイント  (34子コメント)

...and I was sitting here thinking the only mental illness tumblr glamourised by giving a bullshit name was schizophrenia.

[–]GreatmambojamboRainbow Slug - Pronouns PFLRP/SLRP/SHMRP 77 ポイント78 ポイント  (26子コメント)

For the people wondering, I present to you: Tumblr's multiplicity 101

For those who don't want to sift through all of that garbage:

Headmate - Someone who lives in a shared mindspace with someone else, either the host/core or other headmates.

Headspace - The general layout of where members in a system live, within the mind.

[–]ADrunkenChemist 63 ポイント64 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Ageslider - Someone whose age fluctuates.

It puts the most obtrusive one first to filter out all the normies

(I didnt actually read all that far into it)

[–]harpake 86 ポイント87 ポイント  (8子コメント)

My age fluctuates slowly towards getting older. Sometimes it feels like it's happening faster and other times slower.

[–]fartloud 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

sounds like some occult lunacy

[–]zeert 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Honestly that's nothing new either. 15 years ago I met a girl who had someone living in her head. A couple of years later I asked her about it. She had seen a therapist or psychologist and he got rid of that in a few sessions, then told her there were two types of people woth voices in their heads: the kind that can be cleared up in a few sessions, and the kind that need medication and lifetime treatment.

What tumblr is doing is nothing new, they're just reinventing the wheel, and with the echo chamber that is the internet, they're taking it way farther than kids could even back in the early 2000s and before. It's attention seeking, but it's also a coping mechanism for whatever terrible thing they're going through. I don't know if you remember being 12-15 but that shit sucked man. I lost myself in books and video games. Some people have overactive imaginations.

[–]SuperluminalParticle 61 ポイント62 ポイント  (32子コメント)

To be fair, believing in shit like wolfkin IS a mental illness too. Pretending to have mental illnesses is also a mental illness, and pretending like obvious mental illnesses aren't mental illnesses (such as "headmates" or multiple personality disorder) is by itself a mental illness too.

So meta, but yeah, many of them do have a genuine mental illness, just not the ones they pretend to have.

[–]HypertrophScheißenkaiser 72 ポイント73 ポイント  (21子コメント)

A lot of it is also imagination gone too far, desperation to fit in, or simply attention seeking. All of which are simply being a teenager.

[–]StarkweatherRoadTrip 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (70子コメント)

So disphoria IS a mental illness.

[–]SanfranLaPipe 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dysphoria is usually a symptom, not a disorder in itself.

[–]Dualitizer 74 ポイント75 ポイント  (49子コメント)

Yeah. Dysphoria is a mental disorder. It's that simple.

Being trans isn't a disorder. It's a treatment for the dysphoria.

[–]BendoverORsealion-kin (pronouns arp/arp/fuck you for asking questions) 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (6子コメント)

[–]Fireblast168Preferred pronouns fag/fager/fagself 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's for pretending to have a disease (mental or physical) or trying to contract one for attention. I think cutting off your limbs because you feel that's how you should be is something else, as they're not necessarily doing it for attention.

[–]TheGrim1 238 ポイント239 ポイント  (245子コメント)

If I want a doctor to cut off my legs - it's a mental illness.
If I want a doctor to cut off my penis...... ?

[–]FEED_ME_YOUR_EYES 192 ポイント193 ポイント  (162子コメント)

If you're talking about trans people, I don't think there's much dispute about it being a mental illness? It's just that we don't have any treatments to correct the disorder mentally like we do for depression, so people get transition surgery because it alleviates the dysphoria.

[–]TheInsaneWombatShitlord Commander 93 ポイント94 ポイント  (27子コメント)

Right. For a lot of mental illnesses we don't have cures but we do have treatments that alleviate the symptoms of the illness.

So when somebody brings up suicide rates pre and post, remind them that it was never a cure, just a treatment.

[–]SynthFeiNoble-kin ShitLady 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Keep in mind mental illness is a very wide term, and not everyone mentally ill is a psycho or suicidal. It's a clinical term, and as such it is subject to medical rules.

Sure, you probably could dull the feeling of a person who think they are born wrong gender, but when you consider the pros and cons of such treatment as opposed to gender reassignment surgery, it becomes common sense. Primum non nocere, as the prime medical rule says - First do no harm.

[–]Baeocystin 2624 ポイント2625 ポイント  (124子コメント)

It's called Body Integrity Identity Disorder, and it isn't anything new. I first heard read about it in an article written 17 years ago.

The wiki page mentions there is a potential sexual/fetish connotation, but that does not appear to be accurate, or represent even a small fraction of the people who suffer from this. If you do a google scholar search on the subject, there's a surprising amount that comes up. The consistency is that the part that feels 'alien' is consistent across years, and that people who have had their offending bits removed universally report relief. Research indicates that this is a neurological defect in the cortical homunculus, and that the psychological distress is from a mismatch of the perceived vs actual shape of the body.

[–]weetchex 847 ポイント848 ポイント  (74子コメント)

The WTF in the post title was referring more to how the article is celebrating and enabling the mental disorder and not wondering what BIID is.

[–]ultraclutch 423 ポイント424 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Sommers is well known for her view against this type of tumblr-enabled stuff, so her posting this is more to draw attention to the craziness of it

[–]PavementBluesTrans Shitlady 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (3子コメント)

BIID is definitely an interesting and similar disorder, but transability is actually a different diagnosis that is distinct because it is characterized by one or more of the patient's limbs feeling like they belong to someone else or are "imposter" limbs. I think that Oliver Sacks wrote about a patient with this disorder - it's fascinating stuff.

[–]mvpetri 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (2子コメント)

When I was getting to know reddit I stumble upon this post of a women who put acid on her eyes because she wanted to be blind.

After that day the world started to be very different for me, and it never went back.

[–]TheAdventMaster 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Personal rant...

I've never really talked about this, but I always wanted to stop speaking or to be blind as a kid. Saying so out loud kind of freaked my parents out.

I wear glasses now. I didn't even know I needed them as a kid. We had basic letter-reading eye exams, but I was so used to reading without my glasses, I didn't know letters could actually be read clearly from a distance, rather than people simply having memorized their shapes.

Poor vision is possibly why I didn't care much to see. Undiagnosed near-sightedness made me spend many years feeling a little out of the loop. I've been yelled at before because I didn't wave back to a family friend earlier in the day who I hadn't seen, for example.

I was used to that isolation. I always looked down when walking. I got good at feeling when people or things were around me, although I was always a little uptight and tense from the spacial awareness anxiety that followed.

I was never very social, either. So I didn't talk much. I preferred to type.

I did not identify those functions as a big part of me, and they were annoying to have since I didn't use them much. I wanted to turn them off, maybe not permanently, but I preferred the isolation of my own mind at the time over the noise and cloudiness of vision and hearing.

Now quite a bit of time has passed, and I'm noticing that even with glasses, I still feel "blind" at times. I may be seeing something clearly, but not processing the imagery well due to either fatigue or... something else. I may have cataracts. I do see halos around bright light sources with dark backdrops.

Kind of frustrating to think about, since I've been wanting to save for LASIK surgery to help deal with my vision problems once and for all... Now I may have to deal with an entirely different sort of underlying issue.

As far as how sound and speech have developed since childhood... I'm probably somewhere on the autism spectrum. I try not to think about it too much. While I'm not ashamed, the more I think about my "natural" habits and ways of observing and processing things, the more likely I am to fall into them.

It turns out, a lot of people on the autism spectrum don't hear that well. My ears work just fine, but my brain doesn't process sound in the same way as some other people. Possibly the same with vision, but I'm not an expert and do not really know.

[–]Dr_Burke 516 ポイント517 ポイント  (41子コメント)

Isn't this the same lady that posted about changing your major from feminist dance therapy to electrical engineering in order to close the wage gap?

[–]drewsoft 278 ポイント279 ポイント  (4子コメント)

She isn't supporting it. If I'm not mistaken Christina Hoff Sommers is the person who is speaking in the "Keep This Hate Speech Off Our Campus" rant when that lady is going off.

[–]tovarishchi 222 ポイント223 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't think she's a proponent of this.

[–]hawkloner 278 ポイント279 ポイント  (0子コメント)

C.H. Sommers is rather notable for her opposition to third-wave feminism and tumblerina bullshit, so I think it's safe to say she's highlighting this shit to point out how fucking messed up it is.

[–]RaoulDukeff 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeap, she's actually posting this because these retards are glorifying a serious mental condition.

[–]zeekaranGrand Moff Tar-kin 111 ポイント112 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Sommers is calling out the crazy, not promoting it. She's somewhat infamous for being hated by SJWs because she's not their kind of feminist.

[–]woahmateMacroagressor 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah she actually cares about equality, not vengeance and hatred.

[–]FultonPig 68 ポイント69 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, she's one of the rational feminists who's more of an egalitarian than anything else. She did a great podcast with Joe Rogan a while ago. It's definitely worth a listen. She also goes by The Factual Feminist and Based Mom.

[–]lEatSandin shitlord land 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (4子コメント)

She's seen a lot on KiA, she's an old school non-radical feminist. Got a YT channel called the factual feminist I think.

[–]PaperLuigi3I'm a beautiful patriarchy who don't need no woman 74 ポイント75 ポイント  (16子コメント)

C.H. Sommers is actually pretty great. There was a discussion/debate between her, Milo Yiannopoulos and Steven Crowder, and it was hilarious. Absolutely see if you can find it.

[–]VinylGuy420 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That was the event where triggly-puff became popular. It was a shit show.

[–]mattreyuAna-kin Trans-walker 404 ポイント405 ポイント  (22子コメント)

If you want to become disabled by choice, then chances are you already have a disability

[–]PfftNope 89 ポイント90 ポイント  (17子コメント)

Maybe they just want closer spot in the parking lot.

[–]AnindoorcatBotBorn white, ID's as black 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (4子コメント)

They want to not have to work forever & to be able to play the sympathy card for just as long.

[–]Ptearitupodactyl 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Read the top comments it's a mental disorder. No sane person would chop off a limb to stay lazy.

[–]Talkingarb 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I had a friend who didn't like their limbs. He went to a doctor and asked if they could amputate them for him. Said it was going to cost him an arm and a leg for the surgery

[–]RoseEsque 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (11子コメント)

I'd say that if you voluntarily chose to become physically disabled you shouldn't be given the support actually disabled people are given. Same with obese people.

[–]ATLief 431 ポイント432 ポイント  (112子コメント)

How angry must disabled people be to see perfectly abled people purposefully disabling themselves while people disabled at birth would give anything to gain the function they're missing...

[–]myactualnameisloris 265 ポイント266 ポイント  (50子コメント)

Shit I get annoyed when I see people with good vision wearing lensless glasses

[–]MetroBullNY 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (25子コメント)

Same I hate having glasses.

[–]mainman879 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (16子コメント)

I hope to make the switch to contacts soon, been wearing glasses for 7-8 years now

[–]iggyboy456 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I would wear contacts, but I have a really weird phobia of anything touching my eyes.

[–]WishartlessTHIS ISN'T EVEN MY FINAL GENDER. 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I wouldn't call that a weird phobia. It's actually pretty reasonable.

[–]Enzymic 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I don't know how most people who wear glasses feel but I honestly don't mind wearing them. I've had them since 5th grade and I don't even notice or feel them when I'm wearing them.

I tried going to contacts a couple times but both times it was too hard to get them in.

The only downside to me is when it rains and you have to constantly wipe them off.

[–]Love_Bulletz 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (15子コメント)

There are actually lots of deaf people who don't want to hear. There's sort of a deaf culture where ASL is their language and they don't want to lose out on having that culture around them.

[–]mudra311RUMPLESTILTSKIN 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (7子コメント)

It's easy to not want something you don't have.

[–]PM_ME_PICS_OF_HANDS 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (5子コメント)

They also don't want their hearing children or hearing impaired (not completely deaf) children to learn to speak.

[–]Viking_Lordbeast 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I'm paraplegic in a wheelchair. I don't know what to think. Mostly I just feel sad for the person. Then I start to wonder how committed they are to it. Because being in a wheelchair by itself isn't all that annoying. Most people are sitting down all the time anyway. What's annoying is when it's 11 oclock at night, you've transferred into bed, taken off your shoes and clothes, put in your catheter, and got settled in. Then you realize you left your phone on your desk across the room. Someone who is "transabled" could at that point just say "fuck it" and get up and walk over to the remote. So I wonder what they do in moments like that. What sucks about being disabled is you don't have that choice. You can't just say "fuck it".

[–]manolo_chomsky 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah, I have a disability and seeing this rustled my jimmies

[–]KrystallAnn 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Seconded. I'm not going to rage about it but seeing someone who views my disability as convenient is a little rough.

I would give almost anything to be able to run again.

[–]Freakjob003 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hmm...yeah, I'm staying out of this one.

[–]blind_devotion08 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am disabled, doesn't bug me too much. These people just don't know the whole picture that disability gets you in life. They're sure as hell keen on signing up for it though, so welcome to the club, enjoy your 80 percent higher unemployment rate, the pity and fear of atrangers, and your parking space.

[–]MessisTaxAccountant 52 ポイント53 ポイント  (12子コメント)

They probably feel bad for the person because it's clear they have an issue. Most people aren't the cynical assholes that people on this site are.

[–]TakeMeXenu 125 ポイント126 ポイント  (9子コメント)

As a disabled person - this baffles me on such a level that I need a moment to question humanity.

I can't fathom choosing this. This is some netherworld shit right here.

[–]oshaboyPreffered Pronouns: he/she/they/it/הוא/fuck/this/i/don't/care 273 ポイント274 ポイント  (23子コメント)

I heard about this. This is definitely a mental illness. People on this sub don't realize a mental illness needs to affect day to day functionality, kins are weird but it doesn't affect day to day functionality. This is different

[–]VotansGoHome6'3" trans-Dwarf. Pronouns: diggy/diggy/hole 386 ポイント387 ポイント  (31子コメント)

I can kinda see where they're coming from, is the weird thing.

I mean, I actually got in trouble when I was really young because my teachers thought I was going to hurt myself because I knew exactly what and where would be amputated (left arm, just south of mid bicep, left leg, just above knee, right leg, all the way up) once technology finally got us to that cyberpunk future of plug-and-play prosthesis that are better than the real thing.

I'd draw lines in Sharpie, talk about the cool attachments I'd get installed (I wanted an arm that had a slot in the palm to accept, power and fire a Taser cartridge. The arm itself would be red and blue, in a vaguely Spiderman-themed pattern), and just generally sit around and wait for the Singularity to hit.

Now, old as I am, I find myself still lapsing into that kind of thought every so often. When I got my first knee brace, I called it "my new leg" for the longest time, and now I've got a couple of 'em for different situations (one's extremely stiff and uncomfortable to sit in for any length of time, but provides a lot more support when engaging in any kind of strenuous activity, another one provides just basic support, but is comfortable enough for everyday wear), so I kinda see where they're coming from.

Of course, I'm not actually looking to make myself disabled, the entire point of what I wanted was to improve ability, so really it's the exact opposite in that regard.

Still, it would be nice if they'd just hurry up with the tech so I could get myself all shiny and chrome before I find myself riding for Valhalla. . .

[–]kevik72Power Ranger-kin 328 ポイント329 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Did you cum in your pants playing Deus Ex?

[–]Alex_HuntingtonJust a white cis male, living in a white cis male's world 161 ポイント162 ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's hard not to.

[–]KakunaUsedHarden 51 ポイント52 ポイント  (2子コメント)

If that's wrong then I don't want to be right

[–]BannedfromfunSuffering from PTSD -Post Tumblr Stupidity Disorder. 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (1子コメント)

But I never asked for this.

[–]UglierThanMoeI don't use /s; if something looks like sarcasm, it probably is. 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Neither did my pants.

[–]rednax1206Well, Actually... 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not if you don't wear pants.

[–]OprahOfOverhealsBad joke-kin 54 ポイント55 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Sounds like you might enjoy r/ImaginaryCybernetics

[–]578_Sex_Machine 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (6子コメント)

oh my fucking god is this heaven

[–]SuperSulf 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I think you've also showed that especially for children, it's hard to prove if a thinking about an action is just imagination, or if they're seriously considering it.

Example: I've thought about suicide. How it would be like, who would be affected, etc. And then my brain says "So you can never play games again, never have sex again, you'll traumatize your family and gf, never achieve your dreams, and make some random schmucks have to clean up your corpse? That sounds like a terrible idea. Don't commit suicide." And then I don't.

I don't think I was ever serious about it, because I have a properly functioning brain and no extreme hardship that makes suicide appealing in any way. But to a kid who is still developing, how could a teacher know if that thought is serious if they found drawings of the kid killing himself? Or drawings of cutting off his leg?

[–]TinOwlJohn 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Anyone read that Robert Galbraith book where those kids wanted to chop limbs off because they were "transabled". The main character had a leg blown off when he was in the military. I think he essentially told them they were a bunch of sick cunts. Good book.

[–]RedditRalf 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The lengths people will go to for a decent parking spot.

[–]DanKekington 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pretty sure I've heard about this before when that one woman wanted to be blind since she was a little girl so she poured drain cleaner in her own eyes as an adult to make it happen. Apparently, this is classified as an actual mental illness called body integrity identity disorder, or BIID for short. Basically, you don't feel "right" in your own healthy body so you feel the need to give yourself a physical disability to permanently change it, most commonly through limb loss. It's very sad when you think about it, but at the same time, if they haven't already then snowflakes will doubtlessly jump on this and wield it against everyone who doesn't agree with them to call them every name in the book. Also, Based Mom was the one who tweeted this, and knowing her I doubt very highly that she's in favor of letting this kind of thing spread to become normalcy, so hopefully she's just simply pointing it out to make us aware of it.

[–]scuzzlebutt07 41 ポイント42 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Serious mental illness. These people need major help as any mental health professional would see them as posing grave and immediate physical harm to themselves. But SJWs want to normalize this sort of stupidity because not doing so would be ablist or some other bull shit they parrot from their gender studies professor.

[–]ShwinstetRadical Keklamist 131 ポイント132 ポイント  (16子コメント)

I identify as a 'Transboyfriend'. I gain sexual benefits by choice, not chance. Anyone I pick out must have sex with me or its oppression and rape.

[–]ivebeenhereallsummer 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (19子コメント)

Body Integrity Identity Disorder (BIID). It IS a mental illness but not surprisingly the trans community is quick to normalize it because of the obvious fear that their own transsexual identities will be classified as a mental disorders.

Here is a story about a man that purposely froze both legs to make doctors cut them off.

[–]1st_transit_of_venus 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (3子コメント)

but not surprisingly the trans community is quick to normalize it because of the obvious fear that their own transsexual identities will be classified as a mental disorders.

I'm going to need to see some evidence of this. The trend has been to declassify being transgender as a disorder; the WHO will do so in 2018, the APA has already done so, etc. I have heard no one in the trans community express any fear that this trend will reverse, nor have I seen the community try to normalize BIID.

Besides that, BIID/BDD and gender dysphoria are only superficially similar. Trans people are not trying to impair themselves, sexually or otherwise. Most trans people do not get reassignment/confirmation surgery, and the procedures are vastly more complicated than amputation.

[–]Polengoldur 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

a mental disorder, just like all the other ones they refuse to diagnose

[–]JhonnyWongStockings 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is an illness. These people are not mentally well.

[–]fixyouregrammar 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's what happens when we tell everyone they can be whatever they want and don't look at the mental health issue behind their desire to mutilate themselves. We've become so PC it's impossible to tell someone they are fucked in the head.

[–]spitfire9107 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Anyone read the book Career of Evil by JK Rowling? There's good information on this illness and how the main character responds to it is appropriate.

[–]playvoid 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (5子コメント)

If you purposely disable yourself then you should not be able to have that covered by health care.

[–]SugaRushAnarchyAnd now I am become oppression, the destroyer of womyn 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (1子コメント)

So they are crippling themselves to further thier victimization?

[–]CaptainCrackbaby 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (4子コメント)

You know eventually there will be a court case where the defendant insists "No, I did not fire the plaintiff for being disabled, I have employed other disabled people before and will continue to do so. i fired the plaintiff for having his fucking legs cut off. I know it comes from a mental illness but if you lack the damn sense to not cut off your legs how the hell am I supposed to trust you to operate this expensive machinery, handle complex orders, or handle money? I cannot entrust my business, my financial future, to someone who would do something so utterly stupid and so lacking in sense."

In other words: BIGOT! GET IM!

[–]tonybarreraofficialcrimethinker 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is the exact same plot of the episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia where Charlie gets crippled.

[–]TulipsNHoes 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mental illness paired with a severe case of entitlement.

[–]TargetMobileGuy48 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is starting to feel like that Timmy vs Christopher Reeve "Crips vs Bloods" stuff on South Park

[–]Flat_prior 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's some hardcore malingering.

[–]mathchem 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is not Tumblr bullshit guys, this is a serious mental illness. There are cases of people amputating their own bodies if left untreated

[–]jamiegandolf 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just when you thought they couldn't outdo themselves...