At the 2016 Golden Globe awards show, award factory and national treasure Meryl Streep delivered an impassioned speech in which she blasted President-elect Donald Trump for mocking disabled reporter Serge Kovaleski. Trump characteristically reacted by attacking Streep on Twitter, and once again lying about the well-reported fact that he crudely imitated Kovaleski’s appearance and bodily movements caused by a congenital disorder.

The episode prompted a stunning, if obvious, revelation from Trump senior advisor and incoming White House Counselor Kellyanne Conway. On CNN’s New Day, Conway complained to Chris Cuomo about people taking what Trump says “at face value” and incredibly conceded that what we hear “come out of his mouth” is not necessarily “what’s in his heart” (emphasis mine):

CONWAY: You have to listen to what the president-elect has said about that. Why don’t you believe him?

CUOMO: Because it doesn’t fit the facts.

CONWAY: Why is everything taken at face value? 62% of Americans, according to CNN polling, said Hillary Clinton can’t tell the truth about anything.

CUOMO: Who was right behind her in that analysis? Trump.

CONWAY: …and yet she was given the benefit of the doubt here constantly.

CUOMO: When?

CONWAY: You can’t give him the benefit of the doubt on this? And he’s telling you what was in his heart? You always want to go by what’s come out of his mouth rather than look at what’s in his heart.

CUOMO: It’s a gesture that he’s making on video, everybody can see it! I’m not judging the man, I’m judging what he did.

Other members of Trump’s team have tried similar spin in the past, but never with such breathtaking specificity. Conway is literally telling us not to believe the words that come out of Trump’s mouth.

Conway’s admission ought to put an end to the corporate media debate on whether or not to call Trump a liar, since his own senior advisor is telling them that they most definitely should.