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Memphis/Schneiderlin should go off on short loan (self.reddevils)

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I understand Mou's reasoning. United have been one of the most oft-injured squads in recent seasons, and this season they are having problems at specific defensive positions, namely CB and FB. With rotating injuries from Smalling, Jones, Bailly, Shaw, and Valencia, you can see he wants to keep his depth, and Memphis and Schneiderlin are only one injury away from playing (more regularly than they are) at their positions. Those injuries haven't happened, though, and not playing them over their compatriots simply shows other potential buyers they aren't worth as much as any player getting time ahead of them. Their value isn't going up; it's going down. United can't recover these players' actual worth in this situation.

Allowing them to leave on short loan with the option to buy at an amount United actually value them at and feel they're worth would be the smartest move, right? Not only that, but on a short loan, United could recall either one of them in a situation where they were needed.

Is it that no one is interested in taking Memphis or Schneiderlin in that capacity, or is United not willing to do that? Both players need playing time for their own good as well as the club's good (to prove the value United are asking for them). I don't understand why this hasn't been discussed at all.

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[–]Fm661Martial 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They are clearly not good enough for the team. They haven't worked out the longer you leave it the more transfer value they lose. We are better off selling for what we can now which isn't too big of a loss (Schneiderlin) anyways and then move on. A short term loan favours no one in my opinion. They still lose value, no one would pay their full wages if on loan and there is no guarantee of game time.

[–]tapeewa 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mou wants a permanent deal for both players and he stated that he wants a reasonable offer on the table. If they don't go in January then they'll be offloaded in the summer. Something unexpected (Schweinsteiger situation) could happen but highly unlikely given Mourinhos words and the lack of game time for both players. Even Schweinsteiger has played a couple games - albeit a few minutes. Memphis is last in the pecking order with Mou preferring to pick Martial, Rashford, Lingard, Pogba, Micki etc on the wings. Shneiderlin is behind Michael, Daley, Ander, Bastian, Timothy, Pogba etc.

[–]larry_b2 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't understand why this hasn't been discussed at all.

Firstly, what you are proposing isn't necessarily unreasonable per se.

The problem is that:

  1. That type of business isn't a standard practice in the Premier League. I don't know if there's a rule that doesn't allow it, but I don't know if it's ever been done at all. They are also quite rare for non-youth players.

  2. Man United would risk the possibility that, for instance, Memphis goes to Everton on loan, performs and behaves poorly, and Everton decide against signing him. The value of his transfer would decrease significantly, which would be a problem for United.

  3. For accounting reasons, it's much more convenient to perform a permanent transfer.

  4. There could also be agent fees involved in that type of deal, which would be bad for Everton, Man United or both parties involved.

  5. There must be specific reasons (behaviour, performance in training) that are almost forcing Mourinho to move them on. I mean, Schweinsteiger isn't setting the world alight and even he is getting minutes over Schneiderlin.

Those are some of the reasons why Man United doesn't seem to be considering a loan with option to buy.