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[–]VictorBlimpmuscle 7993 ポイント7994 ポイント  (556子コメント)

Not getting enough sleep / rest - people are encouraged to do so much in life (work, play, socialize, etc) that most don't get the appropriate amount of rest needed to function properly and maintain good health.

[–]badassmthrfkr 3425 ポイント3426 ポイント  (345子コメント)

Also, not getting enough sleep is a source of pride for many people and a successful person only needing 3-4hrs a sleep is glamorized.

[–]toxicbox 2049 ポイント2050 ポイント  (231子コメント)

I've done the 3-4 hours of sleep thing before, it's like living a nightmare. I was always tired, could barely keep my eyes open and kept randomly falling asleep.

It's also extremely dangerous to drive when you're exhausted.

[–]SmashMetal 883 ポイント884 ポイント  (117子コメント)

This is my life right now. I average such little sleep that I'm always constantly tired. The sad thing is people actually try and 1up me as if it's some kind of competition of who get the least sleep.

Believe me, I wish I could sleep enough.

[–]the_perhapsinator [スコア非表示]  (38子コメント)

I remember once a coworker asked how I was doing, and when I responded, "I'm exhausted!" She (in a very unnecessarily nasty voice) said back, "I'm bet I'm more tired than you."

Like... ???? It shocked me for a second. I didn't realize being tired was a competition now.

[–]ChaosFinalForm [スコア非表示]  (17子コメント)

It's the constant "I'm tougher than you" battle. It's like when people are sick and trying to one up each other that "I'm sicker than you and I'm still at work" thing.

Really stupid. Humans are weird.

[–]Ungodlydemon [スコア非表示]  (34子コメント)

I had an uber driver brag to me that he hadn't slept in 8 days. I told him to let me out of his car right then.

[–]Paranoidexboyfriend [スコア非表示]  (14子コメント)

I'm imagining him yelling the whole conversation to you and saying "THESE AMPHATAMINES REALLY DO THE TRICK, YOU KNOW?!"

[–]lolGroovy 304 ポイント305 ポイント  (43子コメント)

Depends on the age too. Earlys 20s I was living off 5 hours and it felt fine. Get a good 8 on sunday to refresh.

If I don't get my 8 hours everyday now I don't function at work.

[–]oh_boisterous 919 ポイント920 ポイント  (43子コメント)

My boss only gets about 3 hours of sleep a night and functions fine - she physically can't sleep longer than that. Since she's up, she'll answer work emails and what have you at like 2 in the morning. She's always worried that her subordinates will try to match her. She always tells us that she's just insane and she'll be mad if she catches us working on our off times.

I like her.

[–]theCroc [スコア非表示]  (15子コメント)

Yeah my CEO is like that. The Company is his baby basically so he will be working at all hours and on weekends etc. so every once in a while I'll get an email on a sunday afternoon with a question. I know the answer so I just reply immediately to get it out of the way. Every time he immediately writes bac, thanking me for the response and stressing that I don't have to answer emails on the weekend.

[–]Piddly_Penguin_Army 146 ポイント147 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Hell yeah. It's like this for a lot of high school and college. Finally I realized I was getting sick all the time and said "why the Fuck do I care about this. Just sleep."

[–]Dave_The_Lefty 391 ポイント392 ポイント  (15子コメント)

man, this is so true.

once i've gone to work, hit the gym on the way home, then made dinner and put the washing on... it's basically bed time again.

trying to do anything on top of that is basically asking myself "is this more important to you than sleep?"

[–]that_one_guy39 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (2子コメント)

As an insomniac: FUCKING DONT WASTE YOUR AMAZING GIFT. Sleep, like your life depended on it it does.

[–]Victolabs 436 ポイント437 ポイント  (98子コメント)

IIRC in MN there is a vote going on whether or not to change the time high school and elementary starts. If the vote is passed, high school will now start at 9 AM and elementary will start at 7:30 AM.

I am a high school student and i fucking hope this vote gets passed.

EDIT: I go to sleep at around ~11:30-12 due to being nocturnal. I wake up at 6 am and arrive at school at 7. School starts at 7:30. I usually get 4-6 hours of sleep on week days and ~12 hours on weekends.

EDIT: Good to know others feel my pain.

[–]madogvelkor 322 ポイント323 ポイント  (41子コメント)

Yeah, there have been studies that show that for teenagers, a late start is much healthier and they do better academically. But there has been opposition because of bus scheduling, and because a later start would cut into after school activities like sports and jobs.

[–]demi9od 235 ポイント236 ポイント  (32子コメント)

High school really needs to start later. Waking up at 5:45am to get my kids out the door and driving them to school is awful. Then they get home, fall asleep till I get home from work, and stay up till 11-12 every night starting the cycle again.

[–]madogvelkor 236 ポイント237 ポイント  (24子コメント)

For a long time I've thought that high schools should be set up more like college. Spend less time in lectures, with more flexible classes and schedules. At least for grades 10-12. Right now it is basically warehousing kids and keeping them busy with makework for hours. Then when they do get to college they're unprepared for managing their own schedules and study habits.

[–]ZeusHatesTrees 157 ポイント158 ポイント  (11子コメント)

The system we use is a bit... dated. Even down to bells to change classes. The system we use now is from when most people worked in factories.

[–]WhiskeyDietAndFries [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

This. High school as America knows it came into existence with the industrial revolution. Kids who couldn't work needed supervision, so they were sent to school.

[–]Favre99 9404 ポイント9405 ポイント  (948子コメント)

Work when they're sick. While many people do have sick days they can use, they're actively encouraged not to use them (some even get fired for it), and many do go to work sick.

[–]Newaccount086 4569 ポイント4570 ポイント  (256子コメント)

Work in food service where it technically illegal to work when sick. But if you dare try and follow that rule you'll be lucky if you have a job.

[–]AT5squared 2243 ポイント2244 ポイント  (127子コメント)

Yup. Which is absolutely disgusting, in a couple ways.

[–]Lampmonster1 1601 ポイント1602 ポイント  (98子コメント)

A couple of years ago I walked into a sandwich shop. Girl takes the start of my order and as she's cutting the bread turns her head and sneezes three times. Looks back and I notice how miserable she looks, clearly sick and working THE FUCKING SANDWICH COUNTER! I apologized and left. Wrote an email to the company website about it but never heard back.

Edit: Okay, fine. Clearly I now need to track this woman down and make sure I didn't ruin her life.

[–]Sheilalou008 775 ポイント776 ポイント  (23子コメント)

This happened to me. I was deathly ill and so was the owner of the deli I work in. I had to go to work sneezing and coughing. I felt awful when someone had to order food from me. I washed my hands a lot and any time I had to cough or sneeze I did it into the crook of my arm.

Unfortunately I couldn't take any time off or I would have lost my job.

[–]Lampmonster1 534 ポイント535 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I'm sure this woman felt the same way, and I was clear in my email that I didn't put the blame on her. It sucks to be forced to go to work sick, and it's usually a bad idea for multiple reasons, but in food service it's just crazy to force people to do that, not to mention the health risks.

[–]Sheilalou008 123 ポイント124 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Tell me about it. I didn't want to be there cus I felt like total shit. I didn't want to make anyone else sick either.

[–]nacho_cheez 389 ポイント390 ポイント  (21子コメント)

Wrote an email to the company website about it but never heard back.

Update. Girl was fired for not following company policy.

[–]GazLord 183 ポイント184 ポイント  (18子コメント)

No matter what you do you're fired either way!

[–]GaslightvsIconoclast 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's exactly the type of thing that would happen. Or more hours would be given to ' people who want to work'. Plenty of or's. None of them ending well with the girl employee.

[–]Subrotow 41 ポイント42 ポイント  (2子コメント)

"Our workers have sick days available to them (by law) we apologize this particular employee did not follow procedure. We will follow up. (fire her)"

[–]Opinionated_Burrito 168 ポイント169 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I worked in a nicer, upscale restaurant washing dishes in high school. The chefs, who owned and operated the place, explicitly told me that I should come to work sick anyway, because "we still come into work when we're sick", despite handling food. Fucking greedy bastards.

[–]Aisc 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's pretty much how it is at all restaurants though, even at Michelin star level

[–]rawbface 72 ポイント73 ポイント  (15子コメント)

The sad part was, you might have gotten her fired, but it was her boss's fault.

[–]weirami 96 ポイント97 ポイント  (6子コメント)

As a former sushi chef who was forced multiple times to come in when I was sick, I was always appalled, but I couldn't afford to not have a job.

[–]Bronan_the_Brobarian 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I work in healthcare and we all showed up sick, and then everyone takes turns getting sick, all while continuing to treat sick patients.

But I'm a resident so fuck if I can take sick days.

[–]depricatedzero 113 ポイント114 ポイント  (24子コメント)

Got fired for not going into work when I had strep throat. Informed my boss, had doctor's note, medicine, everything. Go back to work and they're like "oh you're fired. here's your last check. see ya bye." and of course there's no recourse for that because Ohio wants its citizens to be wage slaves.

[–]uniqueenoughnow 397 ポイント398 ポイント  (20子コメント)

I'll tell my boss I have food poisoning and he would say "eh I got pepto here, you'll be fine."

Okay I'll just go handle people's food while puking and shitting my guts out. Good call.

It isn't a good call.

[–]tardisface 221 ポイント222 ポイント  (12子コメント)

And that's how 75% of my family got food poisoning at my grandmother's catered memorial. So fucking ridiculous.

[–]veganveal 1015 ポイント1016 ポイント  (134子コメント)

If I have to work when I'm sick, I will do everything I can to infect my boss. If you want to set the standard that health isn't important, then get ready to be sick.

[–]_megitsune_ 483 ポイント484 ポイント  (51子コメント)

I had to stay off yesterday (was scheduled for overtime) and followed the procedures for ringing in and saying I'm not well.

Came in this morning and was chewed out for missing work at a crucial time and I should have come in anyway so they could see if I was actually sick enough to warrant not working

It would have cost me £20 in taxis to come in, shit myself and throw up on her desk. Next time I'm going to be doing exactly that.

[–]bye_lil_sebastian 247 ポイント248 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I was feeling horrible and had puked on myself twice both in the car ride to work and at a training I had to go to at another place on my works property. I couldn't miss the training. But I wasn't able to call out of the rest of my shift because of this training. So I got to my regular shift after I had just puked on myself again. I went in and explained to my manager what was up, they told me no worries and sent me home. I had a coworker that tried to leave early everyday and that day didn't get to since I got sent home. They were fucking miserable to me from then on out and slashed my car tires a few days after. I tried explaining to them afterwards I had been sick, but I denied them of their god given right to leave early whenever they felt like.

It's not always the managers that will make your life hell for calling out.

[–]GazLord 159 ポイント160 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hope you wrote up a report and that asshole got fired. Them going home early all the time probably would have helped your case.

[–]drazzy92 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (8子コメント)

You would love working at the post office. The day I realized being a mail carrier was not my thing was when my HR representative bragged to a classroom, "I never missed work! Even when I was sick! If you're sick, you just need to show up, and puke all over their shoes so they send you back home. They will fire you otherwise." I was just like, "Yeah, that's not for me." I lasted like a month before I finally resigned.

[–]ComfortablyNumbat 132 ポイント133 ポイント  (32子コメント)

how has this worked out in practice? i'd like to know, for a friend. a very sick friend.

[–]FreaXoMatic 264 ポイント265 ポイント  (28子コメント)

Ask for meetings, shake hands, bring coffee, bring food, watercooler conversation, taking lunch with them, touching everything in their personal space.

[–]Royl3Jester 201 ポイント202 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I got the nickname birdflu at work. I work in a cardiology clinic. I was insanely ill, and told them. But i showed up and greeted every single person in the chain of command with a lengthy close conversation. I was never asked to work sick again hue.

[–]Flater420 835 ポイント836 ポイント  (170子コメント)

That isn't true in for every country.

In Belgium, you technically don't get sick days, i.e. there is no specified amount of sick days you can take. A doctor's note is your sick leave. If you have a note, you're good to go. No matter what the note says.

The worst thing your employer can do when they disagree is to send a second doctor to confirm the diagnosis. And that only really happens in companies that have high employee absenteism (e.g. McDonald's, from experience) or in special cases for an employee who is sick way too often.

The punishment for making a sick employee come in are severe, so companies are deincentivized to do so. There has been a lawsuit because an employer called their sick employee for information (and was subsequently punished at work for not being available).
I've never encountered a company that doesn't listen to doctor's notes. They simply can't get away with it. At worst, you'll work at a company that's less eager to allow you to go home if you feel unwell, and you even rarely hear about that (usually more of a manager fuckup than a company policy)

Also, your wages are covered when you're sick (on a doctor's note). The first 30 days, your employer pays your wages (they recover them from a federal fund down the line). After 30 days, your health insurance (practically free in Belgium) takes over. After another year of that, you will be put on disability and get less than your usual wages, but you're still earning at least minimum wage (guaranteed).

The American approach to sickness (and employee benefits in general, also healthcare) is abhorrent to me. I don't see how anyone stands to benefit from such a system in the long run. It's creates conflict where no conflict should be. Of all the things humans divide themselves by, you'd think they'd all agree that we should be united against medical problems that affect all of us. And yet...

[–]mks113 563 ポイント564 ポイント  (47子コメント)

They discourage doctors notes for routine illness in Canada. It is a drain on the health care system when you really need a day's rest and lots of fluids.

My company suggests that a supervisor may ask for a doctor's note after 5 consecutive days off. Realistically, if you are sick for 5 days, it doesn't hurt to see a doctor.

[–]seewolfmdk 208 ポイント209 ポイント  (14子コメント)

In Germany it's 3 days, but yes. It's not recommended to go to work with a simple cold, but it's not necessary to see a doctor.

[–]Maxpowr9 54 ポイント55 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Yeah my company is 3 days in the US but we will just demand you bring your laptop home with you and work from home. In their mind, if you're not in the hospital, some work is better than no work.

[–]Five15Factor2 315 ポイント316 ポイント  (61子コメント)

The American approach to a lot of things is extremely confusing to most of us on the outside.

[–]terenn_nash 290 ポイント291 ポイント  (31子コメント)

it's easy

"you dead? no? you still want your job tomorrow? yes? then you fucking better be here"

unless you have a manager that is a germaphobe or not a dick

[–]HighOnGoofballs 135 ポイント136 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I believe in the kindergarten rules, if you've had a fever within 24 hours, stay the fuck out of the office.

[–]alittlesadnow 225 ポイント226 ポイント  (15子コメント)

"Just wear a face mask and fight your way through it" - Japan

[–]RedEyedChile 293 ポイント294 ポイント  (88子コメント)

Worked at a few restaurant kitchens with a lot of illegal immigrants. The problems was that they all chose to work sick. They were so poor there was no way they were giving up a full days pay. Also most places are so understaffed. Everytime I tried to call in sick my boss would always say "Well who the hell is going do your job if you're not here?"

[–]itz4mna 323 ポイント324 ポイント  (73子コメント)

Is this a US thing? I used to work as a butcher in the UK and if I had so much as a cold I'd be strictly forbidden to touch any meat and my boss would take over.

[–]SurlyCat 216 ポイント217 ポイント  (12子コメント)

I'm from the UK, worked in McDonald's and bars/restaurants. Every place would have reprimanded me for being off. I remember being so ill at McDonald's that I was having to dash off the till to throw up, and being told I couldn't go home because we were too busy.

Now I am a support worker. Someone I support is on immunosuppressants, and what would be a mild illness for anyone else could easily be a hospital trip for her. We still get heavily penalised for being off, and could lose our jobs. I've raised this with the company several times and just get brushed off. It's disgusting.

So, yeah. Definitely not just a US thing.

(Edited for last line)

[–]RookieGreen 102 ポイント103 ポイント  (35子コメント)

In the United States many states have laws that overwhelmingly gives power to the employer. Combined with a competitive job market and you get a lot of people that are easier to replace than fix. There is also a lot of social pressure emphasizing hard and ceaseless labor in order to achieve success. Failure occurs because you're weak or lazy.

I pretty much have to work when I'm sick because no one does my work while I'm gone and it piles up. I can't even take a significant vacation without preparing my workflow months in advance. We used to have "floaters" who's function was to cover sick or vacationing employees but the new boss saw the position as a "zero production" position and eliminated it. I'm an insurance adjuster.

[–]8-6-7-5-309 82 ポイント83 ポイント  (31子コメント)

It's funny that America sells itself to the world that it's the land of the free and opportunity. Everytime I see a discussion about sick days, vacation days, maternity leave, or other basic workers rights, Americans are always the first to go "nope, we don't have that."

[–]punch_you 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I use to work at a restaurant. Called in because I had pinkeye. My boss still didn't believe me and wanted me to come in for work.

[–]lizardking99 6561 ポイント6562 ポイント  (627子コメント)

As an Irishman the most obvious answer to this is drinking. The social pressure to go on the gargle week in, week out is unbelievable.

[–]noisypeach 2412 ポイント2413 ポイント  (238子コメント)

Australian here. I drink sometimes but it amazes me how much people expect others to drink.

I've been at social events where, upon arrival, people noticed there was alcohol available and went for it. When they saw me not drinking, they've asked me why I'm not already drinking. I explain that I don't feel like it that moment, so they tell me that they have money to buy me a drink if I don't have enough.

I can't tell them that I have money but don't want to drink that moment enough times to make them understand. They just stare at me, like, "but alcohol is available! You HAVE to drink!"

[–]justanamazingperson 857 ポイント858 ポイント  (135子コメント)

I've worked for a company where free alcohol flowed almost constantly. Beers on Friday afternoons, every single event had alcohol, you'd go for "team drinks". Good if you like to get absolutely smashed, not good when you're not a big drinker. There was an unbelievable amount of pressure to drink and party at any and every opportunity.

Edit: Not a tech company or start-up. If you enjoy being treated like absolute shit and working 60hour weeks for occasional free booze and $20kUS a year, PM me and I'll tell you the company. Mainly based in Australia though

[–]ElderDaveBednar 599 ポイント600 ポイント  (72子コメント)

This could be a problem for both someone who isn't a big drinker or also for someone who is prone to alcoholism

[–]dnk1975 412 ポイント413 ポイント  (50子コメント)

I work at a bar in the UK and get drunk every shift. I was discussing with my friends the other day, between us it felt like we didn't know a single bartender in my city who had a stable life. All everyone does is drink all the time.

Working in a bar is such a different lifestyle. My whole life revolves around a bottle of Jager.

[–]caribousteve 238 ポイント239 ポイント  (27子コメント)

Almost everyone I know is in the industry, either servers, bartenders or line cooks and I can confirm we're all chainsmoking alcoholics

[–]pyro5050 68 ポイント69 ポイント  (9子コメント)

mechanic shops, certain oil field industries, car dealers, welders, equipment rental companies are some of the big offenders i see in my work.

however, one thing to note that many of the alcohol abusers i see do not abuse alcohol at work or in social settings, many will have one or two at the event and then pick up a 40lber or a 60 on the way home, they rarely get to the point of severe intoxication at work because they hide their alcohol abuse from those around them... so there is also that...

[–]yohohobo 232 ポイント233 ポイント  (9子コメント)

I had a manager at my old job telling everyone I was some "Christian wierdo" because I didn't want to get utterly pissed at the Christmas party before the food was even served. I'd only been with the company a few months and didn't relish the idea of making a fool of myself. Plus the food was quite posh, and I'd never been to a five star hotel before, so I wanted to be sober enough to enjoy myself.

He got trashed as fast as possible (there were several hundred people there doing the same) and the fact that I'm not religious was completely ignored when I said " I think two drinks is my limit for now, thanks".... He was so demeaning about it, it actually soured my working relationship with him for the next year.

[–]Sinaloa-kin 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Had a similar situation my last job. I just nursed the same glass for 3 hours while my coworkers got shitfaced. Nursing for 2 or 3 hours, sipping occasionally, and grabbing a new glass after you empty it is the best way to appear like enjoying yourself while at the same time not being judgemental of your boss and coworkers drinking habits, some can really hate that.

[–]Enchilada_McMustang 111 ポイント112 ポイント  (21子コメント)

Have you tried asking for a non alcoholic drink, in my experience no one bats an eye if you ask for a soda instead of a beer, it's just normal for you to be drinking something but it doesn't have to be alcohol.

[–]confessofadadz 238 ポイント239 ポイント  (99子コメント)

Scottish, and this is a thing here too.

[–]jasontredecim 270 ポイント271 ポイント  (72子コメント)

Also Scottish. Can confirm.

I've never drank alcohol in my life - by choice. When people find this out in Scotland, they act like I've got some sort of disfiguring ailment.

[–]Chatsubo_657 381 ポイント382 ポイント  (44子コメント)

you're getting deported in the morning.

[–]jasontredecim 144 ポイント145 ポイント  (41子コメント)

I know, right? I'm from Glasgow, I don't drink and I don't particularly like chips. If it wasn't for the fact I like football, I'd have been exiled long ago!

[–]confessofadadz 132 ポイント133 ポイント  (26子コメント)

I too am from Glasgow, and did indeed gasp at your comment. But then again, you'll probably have a life expectancy double that of the rest of the city, unless, of course, the Old Firm gets you first.

[–]jasontredecim 55 ポイント56 ポイント  (16子コメント)

But then again, you'll probably have a life expectancy double that of the rest of the city!

I dunno - for years I was drinking about 9 litres of Irn Bru per day!

[–]rawbface 145 ポイント146 ポイント  (12子コメント)

My new favorite euphemism for drinking is to "go on the gargle". Thanks, Ireland!

[–]Simple_Jim 556 ポイント557 ポイント  (72子コメント)

People feel that they have to justify not getting drunk. They need to explain that they want to remain in control, not be a burden on others, save their money, and can have a good time without being drunk. It is amazing.

It should be completely the opposite- people should be facing questions the morning after. Why? Why were you fighting with your brother? Why did I have to collect you at 2am? How are you going to pay for your car insurance? When will you make up the time lost to your hangover?

[–]gilly8885 67 ポイント68 ポイント  (7子コメント)

This is such a great point. Comparing those questions. I stopped drinking for the New Year and convincing myself to not drink is one battle. Dealing with all the convincing from my social environment is a more difficult battle.

[–]Kahtoorrein 221 ポイント222 ポイント  (47子コメント)

I don't drink because I don't like the taste of most alcohol. I do like the occasional mixed drink where I can't taste the alcohol, but in general I just don't drink. You would not believe the reactions I get when I tell people that I don't drink. Some people seem to take it as a personal offense. My mom seems to think that I view everyone besides myself as an alcoholic and once told me that I needed to "stop judging" her when I told her that I didn't want to go to the bar with her.

[–]madogvelkor 91 ポイント92 ポイント  (11子コメント)

If you order ginger ale or cola at a bar, most people will assume you're drinking alcohol when they see you with it.

[–]not_athletic 3251 ポイント3252 ポイント  (137子コメント)

Overworking ourselves. The number of people I see at school bragging about how little they slept or how much work they have due the next day is incredibly worrying.

[–]Piddly_Penguin_Army 1098 ポイント1099 ポイント  (59子コメント)

This was the most amazing thing I realized in Germany. They had such a different perspective to work. When you worked you worked, but after 5:00 that's it. You stop working. You relax. Things close earlier because employees should be with their families not at work.

It's a crazy concept where my dad even not at work is always taking work related emails and phone calls.

[–]BearDogBat 217 ポイント218 ポイント  (23子コメント)

My first day of this year, back to work, was celebrated by working my typical 8 hour office work day (I'm an engineer)... supplemented by my supervisor asking me to stay for an additional 2.5 hours more. Why? A technician called out and he wanted our numbers to look good for the new year... so I did assembly line work for 2.5 hours after 5pm. The joys of salary.

[–]mentho-lyptus 149 ポイント150 ポイント  (20子コメント)

An assembly line worker earning salary is a crime against humanity. Employers will take advantage of that all they can.

[–]Byizo 204 ポイント205 ポイント  (24子コメント)

Try working salary in manufacturing. It's unusual to see people only working from 8-5. Normal hours are more like 7am-8pm. Sometimes you'll be working weekends and holidays too. A coworker of mine came in for about 4 hours every day of the 4 day weekend we had for new years. It's definitely a problem in the US. We have a culture where we are proud of being overworked, and those who work normal hours and do a normal, honest day's work are somehow lesser employees.

[–]Grunherz 91 ポイント92 ポイント  (7子コメント)

We have a culture where we are proud of being overworked

It's because we're being told from the age of three that anything is possible and you can do anything you want if you just work hard enough so in reverse that means that if were not busting our asses we don't deserve that raise or that company car or hell, even to have the job in the first place.

[–]toxicbox 5786 ポイント5787 ポイント  (480子コメント)

That working an 8-5 job is really necessary. It's not true for all jobs, but some jobs have huge amounts of downtime and the employees end up just trying to look busy for large parts of the day.

[–]kitkatkid090 3140 ポイント3141 ポイント  (187子コメント)

It's what I'm doing right fucking now.

[–]88Dubs 1145 ポイント1146 ポイント  (131子コメント)

It's what I do EVERY. GOD. DAMNED. DAY.

If I can finish a job in 2 hours, why do I have to just sit here for the other 7? You KNOW I'm not doing anything, why draw out the torture?

[–]kitkatkid090 748 ポイント749 ポイント  (60子コメント)

For some reason people believe we are being paid for our time and not the job being completed.

[–]PM-ME-YOUR-DOGPICS 427 ポイント428 ポイント  (26子コメント)

That just makes us work eeeeeexxxxtttrrrrraaaaaa

ssssslllllooooooooooooowwwwwww

[–]Tarquin_Underspoon [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

This, especially because your "reward" for getting your work done in a thorough, efficient manner is generally one of two things:

1) More work, or

2) "We've noticed that you've had a lot of downtime lately. That can't happen or else we'll have to let you go."

[–]PM-ME-YOUR-DOGPICS [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

My first job I'd get tasked with anywhere from 50-150 basic assignments every day, they were all pretty typical and took about two minutes each.

I would plow through the entire stack within the first hour of work, then save the very last one just to have in case my bosses walked into my office. In a perfect world I'd just do them all then leave early for the day but in this one I kept the last one and played Cookie Clicker for 7 hours.

Work isn't about getting shit done, it's about faking confidence and appearing important.

[–]InnoQous 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How else am I going to warm this building in the winter?

[–]tennmyc21 87 ポイント88 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I used to manage a small team of folks and this was generally my policy. Once your work for the day was done, you were good to spend the rest of the day however you wanted. I gave everyone the talk about how this was something I was trying and that we needed to stay on top of our shit to get away with it, and make sure that if something came up between 9-5 you were still available and could make it into work if anyone freaked out/needed you for something.

Anyway, all was well and at the end of year celebration my team swept the awards for our division. Eventually, my boss found out and was fine with it, but said just make sure HQ doesn't find out. Fast forward a few months and I had given notice to go to grad school and was training my replacement when I told her the informal team policy. She mentioned it to someone at HQ, and that person promptly threw a shit fit and put an end to that policy. The entire team turned over within 3 months.

I really just can't figure out why work wants you to just chill for 8 hours. I get wanting you to be available if something pops up, but why does that require sitting at your desk doing nothing for huge chunks of the day?

[–]yogi89 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (2子コメント)

same, I don't mind it too much though because I get to be on reddit a lot, which I also do at home

[–]DrivingWhileChocolat 498 ポイント499 ポイント  (40子コメント)

Often the looking busy part is more stressful than the work itself

[–]88Dubs 195 ポイント196 ポイント  (31子コメント)

I've actually gotten sick from (what I assume) stress of looking busy rather than actually doing something.

I've also considered taking up bartending again just so I can feel like I've actually accomplished something that day.

Corporate life sucks

EDIT: What I mean to say is I used to be a bartender and REALLY enjoyed it. I only took this job because I was sick of the "when are you going to get a real job" bullshit, and now I don't think I can afford my rent if I were to go back to it.

[–]robots-dont-lie 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (9子コメント)

I'm a temp. mailman. It totally baffles me that some people have so little work to do. I start at 7 am and work 11 hours straight and sometimes I can't even get finished with the mail so I have to leave it for tomorrow.

It's seriously fucked up that work is so unevenly divided. Some people work as wage slaves and don't even have time to eat lunch, while others are bored and dissatisfied because they are underchallenged.

edit: not US mail. german mail is a NGO.

[–]Angry_Apollo 446 ポイント447 ポイント  (49子コメント)

I get to work around 9:00. I don't really get started until after my 11am lunch.

[–]Scratch_That_Itch 223 ポイント224 ポイント  (25子コメント)

11 AM seems like a very early lunch. Especially if you get to work at 9.

[–]forsayken 245 ポイント246 ポイント  (8子コメント)

There's a 1pm lunch too though. It's all just stress eating.

Firsties and secondsies!

[–]Maarek 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Maybe he eats breakfast at like 6 or 7. If he does, 11 isn't all that unreasonable.

[–]klevenisms204 220 ポイント221 ポイント  (25子コメント)

itd be nice to be paid the full day and be able to leave "when done your work"

however, i see that backfiring, as more and more work would be put infront of u

[–]Harold76 213 ポイント214 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Sometimes, though, the job is about waiting for work to be given to you because of other people.

[–]madogvelkor 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, that happens a lot to me. Or there will be surges in work. Some weeks you'll be slammed and wish you had extra people in the office. Other times you wonder why you need all those people.

That became an issue during cost cutting in the recession. A lot of businesses would cut down staff to what worked fine during normal periods when everyone came in. Then someone would take vacation and you'd hit a busy patch and everything would go to hell.

[–]miltondave 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's exactly what happens. I worked a job before where you make under-work. Essentially when you're done your job you can go home. Sounds great right!? Well the problem is that people become obsessed with it and sprint to to get all their work done so they can go home in 5 or 6 hours.

What happens next is people get laid off and all their work is passed on to the other employees, who now have to sprint to get done in 8 hours instead of sprinting to get done in 5.

Under-work is brilliant from a business perspective because it exposes all the gaps in efficiency. But the crazy thing is that many employees who work in this system understand that they're screwing themselves in the end but they can't tear themselves away from leaving early. It's really weird to watch.

[–]TrashPandaBros 1098 ポイント1099 ポイント  (27子コメント)

"Just be yourself! Don't change for anyone."

Bitch, sometimes you're a cock and need to be nicer to other people. People shouldn't have to just accept you for the huge narcissistic ass you are.

[–]FlatlinerG 212 ポイント213 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Well, you don't have to change for anyone, but if you are going to be an asshat, don't expect people to like you and get upset when they don't.

[–]molly_millions_ 807 ポイント808 ポイント  (44子コメント)

An 8 hour work day when studies have shown we're really only productive for about 6. We should have more time to actually live life.

[–]foureight84 4516 ポイント4517 ポイント  (279子コメント)

To keep your mental problems secretive. I have been dealing with depression on and off for a very long time. My parents would not acknowledge when I tell them and say things like "you're too young to be depressed" or "you haven't been through enough to be depressed."

When anyone finds out you're depressed, they automatically dismiss it, "no you don't seem depressed."

It's a huge problem that mental disorders like depression are tabooed and kept quiet.

[–]adrianaselena 367 ポイント368 ポイント  (30子コメント)

I completely agree and it makes me so mad because depression and other mental illnesses are obviously a problem but for some people they just can't accept that part of reality. Or they try to downplay it just like you said: "you're too young to be depressed". How is someone too young to be depressed? And why do you have to go through hell in order to, by their logic, truly be depressed? No one believes until someone goes to the extent of taking their own life. It's taboo because everybody wants to trick themselves into thinking they have a perfect, happy life. The sooner humans wake up to the reality of suicide and depression, the easier our lives will be.

[–]Tesseract14 149 ポイント150 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Unfortunately, many people believe that depression is purely a cause of environmental/subjective experience (which can be true in some cases), rather than due to a chemical deficiency/imbalance.

[–]techguru94 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

This. A thousand times this. I've had screaming arguments with family and friends over and over about the fact that no, going outside more isn't the problem because I go for walks every other day just to clear my head. Being more social isn't gonna fix it because I already spend every night with either my roommates or volunteering at my local shelter. It's not a problem with my love life since my depression is what's causing the problem in my love life. But no matter how many times you try to explain the burning soul crushing agony that is not being able to escape this trapped fucking hole of horror it's just something I'm doing wrong. Like what's wrong with my head is a Side effect of some moral failing of mine that I'm just not trying hard enough to get rid of. Even writing this has me in tears because it brings up the overwhelming fact that if I'm not telling my psychiatrist about it I start to feel like I'm crazy because literally everyone believes it's my fault. Society at large needs to start understanding that sometimes your brain doesn't work the way it should. But just because you don't have full blown schizophrenia (which also runs in the family, diagnosed schizotypal but they still question my depression) and hallucinations doesn't mean you're fully neurotypical.

[–]GWJYonder 66 ポイント67 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Brain fairies keep young peoples chemicals and hormones in perfect balance, so they can't get depressed. Unfortunately brain fairies only live <insert age that is "old enough to get depressed"> so after that they die and start to rot in your brain, causing depression.

[–]PM_ME_YOUR_WORRIES 701 ポイント702 ポイント  (16子コメント)

In some ways it encourages the idea that what you're missing can always be found through consumption of media or buying stuff.

[–]fezzam 104 ポイント105 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I buy media and consume stuff, am I safe?

[–]PM_ME_YOUR_WORRIES 74 ポイント75 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Only if you physically eat the media, then yes! Also I realised I misread the question.

[–]Scratch_That_Itch 381 ポイント382 ポイント  (13子コメント)

Sharing everything we do publicly on social media.

[–]InTheHotSeat 55 ポイント56 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What amazes me is that so many people willingly reveal their daily itenery, political opinions, sexual orientation, and God knows what else on Social Media. If Government or Police came knocking on our door demanding the same information that we give so freely, we would ask if they had a search warrant.

[–]Scratch_That_Itch 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The government doesn't actually have to spy on most of us because we broadcast every part of our lives on our own accord.

[–]implodemode 2269 ポイント2270 ポイント  (141子コメント)

Consumerism. Having to own the "right" stuff to have worth.

[–]LaBelleCommaFucker 508 ポイント509 ポイント  (52子コメント)

I have family who is like this. Why are you buying brand name shoes for young kids who will outgrow them in a month? Why do you need to go shopping or eat out every day?

Edit: Decent, well-fitting shoes are fine. But four or five pairs of Nikes at a time? It's not that they care about their kids' feet. For God's sake, they have Instagrams devoted to their children's shoes.

[–]cogenix 1264 ポイント1265 ポイント  (146子コメント)

Eat food with lots of sugar. We don't really notice it but most food is loaded with sugar even if it doesn't need to be, because sugar is cheap when compared to other natural products and flavorings. It also adds a lot of weight to the product (so the total weight stays the same while profit increases). Most companies don't care about this anyway, because people like sugary sweet stuff and will probably still buy it if they don't look closely at the sugar content and think carefully.

Obviously this excessive consumption is unbeknownst to ourselves so a lot of people end up obese or diabetic.

[–]Andromeda321 299 ポイント300 ポイント  (61子コメント)

I've lived abroad for five years and came back to the USA over the break to visit family. Had turkey sandwiches at my sister's where we used some oat nut bread or something that sounded similarly healthy. The bread was sweet. It wasn't supposed to be a fruit bread or anything, just they added it for whatever reason, and I couldn't even finish the sandwich.

I mean damn, I can't imagine her oat but bread was more healthy than my go-to white bread made only with flour, yeast, and salt if you dump all that sugar in it.

[–]singing-mud-nerd 285 ポイント286 ポイント  (40子コメント)

Fellow American here. This is honestly such a huge thing that I wish more people realized. There's SO MUCH SUGAR in the bread, especially the 'whole grain' stuff, and people just don't realize it. I wish there were more proper bakeries for people to buy actual bread from

Edit: To those telling me to make my own bread, I try to but it's time consuming & I need practice. I generally buy from a local bakery down the street that makes some amazing sourdough

[–]Dippofix 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Living in Germany where bakeries are fucking everywhere, I really don't know why they aren't more common elsewhere. It's just so, so handy to be able to buy fresh bread whenever you want it.

[–]Iamahighlighter012 1115 ポイント1116 ポイント  (101子コメント)

hold in our farts. Shit can lead to gastrointestinal problems.

[–]gugudan 139 ポイント140 ポイント  (30子コメント)

Same with sneezing. Pleurisy is a bitch. Sneeze hard; don't do the cute, polite sneeze.

[–]1SaBy 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Never heard sneezing politeness. In high school, one of the teachers wanted us to apologize whenever we sneezed. At least at first. She stopped giving a fuck after two or three weeks.

[–]gugudan 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (10子コメント)

I see a lot of women try to sneeze quietly. They'll try to hold it in and it sounds like a quiet, high pitched "choo" when they do sneeze. Just let that shit go.

[–]MrEmouse 343 ポイント344 ポイント  (46子コメント)

I learned to fart silently. Best to do it somewhere crowded and ignore it. Nobody will know who to blame.

[–]Afanadord 364 ポイント365 ポイント  (19子コメント)

You see that car that you definitely can't afford on your income? You should definitely get it

[–]Saxon2060 3440 ポイント3441 ポイント  (398子コメント)

Tolerate all opinions to the point where we don't critically appraise anything and give everything equal weight.

According to a British politician we've "had enough of experts." Fuck you you spamfaced prick. This is what's wrong with the planet.

Basically, indescriminately respect beliefs and opinions. I indiscriminately respect you right to an opinion but if your opinion is fucking stupid for all sorts of legitimate objective reasons then you should be told it's fucking stupid not coddled or protected from criticism.

[–]kingshinjin 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (3子コメント)

to talk to someone instead of a therapist. all my life I've tried to talk to people to figure out whats up with me when im trying to figure some life problem out. I always get the same answer "that sucks, I don't know man."

Luckily I picked an OK health plan this time around, my visits are in network and even though the price is sorta high i can make it work.

we all want mental health to be better for our people no matter where we are from (especially in america) but imagine yourself talking about a therapist like a physical doctor.

You cant. Shit, I was talking in whispers to set the appointment at the office. If we want mental health to be better it should be OK to talk about it. People should be encouraged to go see a therapist, and if you happen to have it somewhere in your medical plan go see one.

I feel that 90% of the people that feel weird about it, are the same ones who think a person is crazy or something. Who think "why don't they just get friends?"

Your friends don't have the answers, Sway.

[–]Bookiedutt 545 ポイント546 ポイント  (113子コメント)

Driving everywhere. The city I live in is not very pedestrian friendly and people drive everywhere, even down the block because there are no sidewalks.

[–]destroys_burritos 110 ポイント111 ポイント  (24子コメント)

I live in a major U.S. city with good walkability and public transit. I have a car, but can get anywhere with the other two. I'm on the train as I type this.

A lot of my friends live in the suburbs and drive everywhere. They are amazed how often I walk, even in inclement weather. It's a little less than a mile to and from the train. I love it. I find it peaceful to just throw on some headphones and walk.

[–]allButHighHopes 1000 ポイント1001 ポイント  (167子コメント)

Desk jobs : Sedentary lifestyle. Not directly but we aim more and more towards sitting job ( Engineers etc) and its impacting us in ways that we can't even think.

[–]Jeffbx 489 ポイント490 ポイント  (79子コメント)

It's only bad if you have no other activity in your life.

Yes, it's much easier to stay fit & healthy if you're constantly moving around, but having a desk job does not necessarily lead to an unhealthy lifestyle. It just enables one if you're not motivated to do anything else.

Yes, I'm looking at you, Bob. You work on the second floor. Take the stairs sometimes.

[–]PoopDog77 171 ポイント172 ポイント  (48子コメント)

unfortunately i can't find it, but i know i read a small study over the summer that said this isn't necessarily true. the point it made though was that, outside of sleeping, you really shouldn't just sit and "do nothing" for 8 consecutive hours. it's bad for circulation and the heart, mostly. i think they said getting up every 30 minutes ish and taking a quick little 3 - 5 minute walk helps though.

but, i couldn't find the source, so, sorry.

EDIT: e'erbody, i'm super stoked you guys have figured out ways to be a bit more active, or whatever.

[–]RevolverMjolnir 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (20子コメント)

Good luck convincing most bosses of this though! Aside from an hour for lunch from 1-2pm we are permitted one 5 minute break per day.

[–]RubberJustice 154 ポイント155 ポイント  (8子コメント)

It's certainly not as bad as, say, sweatshops, but the American labor system encourages you to settle for a unchallenging position you're overqualified for, dissuades you from taking time off, and encourages a degree of competition with your colleagues that chips away at your respect for humanity. It almost seems purposefully constructed to retard personal advancement.

[–]BlisteringMustang23 1001 ポイント1002 ポイント  (47子コメント)

How society encourages men to bottle up their emotions and expects them to not care about anything other than themselves.

[–]Plbn_01 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (1子コメント)

no, don't care for themselves at all, just care about family and work

[–]_G0NZ0_ 158 ポイント159 ポイント  (10子コメント)

This. My father had an awful childhood, and he refuses to talk about it because "real men dont cry". Its crazy, they dont feel like its okay to express that theyre hurt.

[–]Johnnypoopoopanties 56 ポイント57 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I think it's okay. I just would rather not.

I think about how i feel. I know why i feel it. You don't need to know. How i see it.

[–]ohgodwhatthe 141 ポイント142 ポイント  (3子コメント)

The two party system in the United States discourages critical thinking on both sides of the aisle as people naturally gravitate to support whichever side is "most like them," resulting in people developing personal identification with their party and its successes as well as a natural reaction to disregard criticism as merely being some trick of the enemy. This breaks the politics.

[–]nikoel 2305 ポイント2306 ポイント  (265子コメント)

Parents tell their children to eat everything off their plates even when they had enough. This leads to kids developing habits that make them ignore the feeling of being full. Many take this habit to their deathbeds, as adults they just keep overeating. One of [many] leading causes of obesity

[–]rawbface 181 ポイント182 ポイント  (43子コメント)

This is quite the conundrum. On the one hand, my italian grandmother would put seconds on my plate without me asking, and I'd have to eat every last bit. On the other hand, my mom ran a daycare center and sometimes children just won't fucking eat, and you can't let them starve. It's a no-win.

[–]jacls0608 58 ポイント59 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Kids will eat when they get hungry.

But if you let them dictate when and how they eat and they choose not to they get super cranky. So while you won't kill your kid by following what they want to do you're going to have an incredibly cranky child if you don't sometimes force them to eat.

It's definitely a no win situation all around.

[–]HeyItsMau 771 ポイント772 ポイント  (96子コメント)

The underlying reason is good though - to either teach kids that they shouldn't have the privilege to waste food or force them into good nutritional habits (like forcing them to finish vegetables).

Parents just need to be more mindful about portion control.

[–]uvafan256 359 ポイント360 ポイント  (63子コメント)

Yeah how is this not obvious? It's not like you've dumped enough food for a 20 year old male on your 6 year old's plate, right? Only give him the correct portion with healthy foods included and then, in that case, having him finish his food is fine and instills the idea that he cannot simply eat the more appetizing options but must also eat all the vegetables and fruits.

[–]brodymitchell 124 ポイント125 ポイント  (19子コメント)

In my experience with kids it's not that they're full, it's that they just would rather eat something else. My little brothers (7 and 10) always try and get away with leaving their mashed potatoes or vegetables and eating dessert instead - to which my parents say "you can eat dessert after you finish your whole dinner."

I think you have an interesting idea but I think it's pretty obvious that the sugary, calorically dense food and we have today that cause childhood obesity, not forcing your kids to finish their vegetables.

[–]Tigs_ 70 ポイント71 ポイント  (7子コメント)

This is one of those things I now say "wow, I'll never do that if I have kids" and then just end up doing it anyway because I forgot about this post and that's what I was used to.

[–]9306549 445 ポイント446 ポイント  (46子コメント)

Anti-intellectualism. There seems to be a trend where ignoring expert opinions is cool.

[–]AT5squared 196 ポイント197 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Most? Support the current work culture. You know, how you should be an utter toady to your management and accept whatever abusive policy they put out in the abject hopes you'll be promoted to a better place or even be manglement yourself.

[–]Asmor 60 ポイント61 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Find your One True Love(tm). Get married. Have children. If you don't do these three things, you're a failure!

Monogamy's not for everyone. Marriage isn't for everyone. Children aren't for everyone.

And the worst part is there's a lot of pressure that if one step of The Master Plan isn't working, you need to push yourself to the next step because surely that will fix things. Your relationship isn't working? Get married! Your marriage is falling apart? Better have a kid!

[–]LiterallyHades 139 ポイント140 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Chase after the guy/girl if they've said no once or multiple times.

"They're just playing hard to get! Go after them! Be romantic!"

Nah, son. That will earn you a one-way ticket to crazy town.

Just because you bought them expensive flowers/asked them to dinner doesn't mean you're entitled to fuck them.

[–]KittehAmaz 86 ポイント87 ポイント  (5子コメント)

For men, bottle up our feelings. Men are known to be fearless and tough in the eyes of society, but we're just as fragile as anyone else deep within our hearts, which can drive us suicidal when it reaches critical points.

[–]Weep2D2 131 ポイント132 ポイント  (12子コメント)

The insane pressure of social media, acquiring that like or retweet.. the immense pressure of that perfect selfie.. attributing one's value to the comments and activity on one's posts..Having 2 personas for yourself.. your online and real life version..

Additionally, the fake news stories/info that's shared and believed without being fact checked and the quizzes about which Powerpuff girl I would most likely be.

[–]_Happy__ 663 ポイント664 ポイント  (61子コメント)

Feel shame, especially about sex - this includes our orientation and sexual assaults.

In our culture victims often feel more shame than the perpetrators.

Children disclosing sexual abuse is an ordeal for all parties because sex is treated as ridiculously taboo and shameful in itself- a horrifying truth as to why many kids keep quiet and feel like they can't speak up.

Think about how many adults shame and embarrass their kids about their first crushes.

Demonising sex is a very unhealthy thing for society to do to its members.

I think it's the most unhealthy thing.

[–]jasontredecim 616 ポイント617 ポイント  (82子コメント)

Be "romantic" in ways that are actually creepy and borderline repulsive. For instance, the movie trope of a guy basically forcing a kiss on a woman who has pretty much told him she can't stand him, or never shown the slightest bit of interest, but this somehow pays off and wins her over.

[–]rawbface 124 ポイント125 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Watching old movies is hilarious for this reason. AMC constantly has a movie on where the lead female finds the lead male repulsive, but in the end he grabs her and kisses her and they're in love. It's like the lesson they were teaching was, "even women who hate you will eventually fall for you if you force yourself upon them."

[–]Piddly_Penguin_Army 199 ポイント200 ポイント  (20子コメント)

Hell yes. A lot of the things the guys do in these movies is downright stalking. It's not cute. Sending me a letter, text, email or whatever everyday when I told you to please stop isn't going to make me change my mind.

[–]fatkidzftw 373 ポイント374 ポイント  (49子コメント)

To me it seems like much of society puts an emphasis and importance on getting married or starting a family either during college years or shortly afterwards which I see as a bit of a ball and chain from being able to forward yourself in any career you may be looking at.

[–]isitallfornothing 177 ポイント178 ポイント  (14子コメント)

If you're a guy and you've been dating a girl for more than a year, you start to get the "are you gonna get married?" and "why haven't you proposed yet?" from pretty much everybody.

The unhealthy thing is really pressuring other people to get married. It should be a decision made between two people alone.

[–]herpyderpy01 59 ポイント60 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yup. Dated my wife for 7 years before we got married so that we were all done college and far enough in to our careers and lives to know ourselves.

[–]siomat[S] 705 ポイント706 ポイント  (112子コメント)

Alcohol

[–]SlayJ93 507 ポイント508 ポイント  (84子コメント)

It's the only drug you get stigmatized for not doing.

EDIT: I get it guys, caffeine too

[–]Afanadord 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hey you see that really attractive model over there? You should do everything you possibly can to look like him/her