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[Discussion] The case of Chris Smalling (self.reddevils)

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I remember way back when so many legends left at once. Obviously Fergie, but also Vidic, Rio, Evra.

In that first LVG season, Smalling was expected to step up. This wasn't a RB position along-side the best anymore, this was him, basically managing a whole load of under 21 and even under 18 defenders, in a back 3, in a completely new system, under a manager different to any this club has bad before, and you know what, after that red card against City, his performances improved vastly.

During the course of the 2015/16 season, he was immense IMO. He won countless challenges/headers, was actually really good at bringing the ball out from the back, and looked like a physical giant (when going to watch live), basically looked like he was maturing into the player we all thought he could be.

Now, up until the Chelsea game this season, I thought he was a solid starter along-side Bailly, however after the 4-0 defeat, he was dropped (I think) by the manager and it seems as though ever since we lost 4-0 to Chelsea, he has been getting so much criticism from fans.

I'm not sure what else has really caused us to 180 so much on this player, maybe besides the Chelsea game, can we have more context as to why people suddenly view him incapable of being our starting CB? What other reasons are there for this?

I get the feeling people think he has been out for ages because of not performing, but hasn't he been having pains in training? or something like that? Are we not simply seeing our CB returning to the team slowly, or do you now think Rojo/Jones are ahead of him?

Thanks :)

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[–]MoosjeMartial 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fickle fans, simple as that. Smalling is class and the same people that threw Jones under the bus are now rating him the best English defender of all time after a few good games. These exact people that want Smalling sold are the same guys that we're calling him Smaldini last year

[–]Mt264 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

He seemed better in the less intense system of LvG - CBs were not left exposed, and the ball was played slowly around the back.

Jose plays a more intense system, a higher line, more pressing and quicker passing.

It's up to Smalling if he can adapt to the new system or not.

I really like him, and I think he has all the attributes to be a success under Jose. BUT he needs to show that this season, as I think it's fairly certain we'll sign a new CB in Jan/Summer, and that means that one of Smalling, Jones or Rojo will make way.

At the moment, that person seems to be Smalling.

We'll have to wait and see, but I really hope he makes it

[–]nelsonandthemandelas -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

He seemed better in the less intense system of LvG - CBs were not left exposed, and the ball was played slowly around the back. Jose plays a more intense system, a higher line, more pressing and quicker passing.

This exactly.

[–]ArjunkkIbrahimovic 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

But its not an extremely different system, he's gone from a very defensive system to a defensive one, its not as if its a massive change.

[–]apparex1234Mkhitaryan 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Smalling was never as good as we made him out to be last season and he isn't as bad as we are making him out to be this season. Last season you just had to watch the England games to see he had a lot of mistakes in him. My problem with him (even last season) was that, for a man of his height, he should be more commanding in the box.

[–]ArjunkkIbrahimovic 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

When comparing to the LvG season where we had Varela, BoJack and even Blackett starting multiple times, I'm just grateful Jones & Rojo are a solid pairing, Bailey is class and i reckon Smalling's form will return.

[–]Dave1711Januzaj 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just needs time to adapt to a new system right now Jones and Rojo have adjusted better,im sure Smalling will be back to his old self in time.

I'd still want Rojo sold before him if we did have to sell someone!