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JustUnsubbed from GenderCritical and Gender_Critical. (self.JustUnsubbed)

Morgan182 が 投稿

GenderCritical is an anti-transgender "feminist" subreddit.

I am trans. For the longest time, I was in denial about my feelings. I looked to G_C as a way of rationalizing them away.

I decided to stop listening and feeding the bigots and accept that I am trans and wish to transition.

Posted on their counter-subreddit GenderCynical (which calls out GenderCritical), and got plenty of good motivation. I left GenderCritical.

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[–]blueskin 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Congratulations, I hope you are much happier now.

[–]One-dapper-vagina 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Congrats on coming to terms with who you truly are and getting rid of those vitriolic subs!

[–]SpinningNipples 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

On the positive side, congrats on your newly self acceptance!

[–]baronstrange 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean no offense by this but it tends to be the people deep in the closet who are most outspoken.

[–]przemko271 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

May I ask what you are transitioning from and to?

[–]Morgan182[S] 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Male to female.

[–]BadinBoarder 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What made you decide to transition even despite reading so much anti-trans material?

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[–]przemko271 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They probably just rejected what they read there and maybe even deepened their want to transition through this.

edit:letter.

[–]Merlord 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I discovered /r/GenderCritical a while ago by hitting the random subreddit button. I learned a lot about radical feminism from this video, which lays out the differences with liberal feminism very clearly. And while I appreciate how informative that video is (and I highly recommend watching it), holy shit are the deluded about what gender is. They have this idea that gender is fabricated by "The Patriarchy", and is a form of class warfare to keep down anyone they view as being "feminine".

You can't just ignore biology. While we can all agree that genders associated with 'male' and 'female' do not encapsulate every kind of person out there, it's absurd to think that the way boys and girls behave is entirely due to societal pressure. The level of denial by these people about the inherent nature of gender identity reminds me of the conservatives who think being gay is a choice.

Good on you for leaving that place. I saw a lot of disgusting trans-hate last time I was there.

[–]clearglassofwater 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

The level of denial by these people about the inherent nature of gender identity reminds me of the conservatives who think being gay is a choice.

What is the inherent nature of gender? I've seriously seen a lot of "this is what gender isn't" from both sides and very little about what gender inherently is. I'd welcome any legit sources about it. For lack of a better word, i feel agnostic about it from the lack of evidence I've come across. There is a lot of evidence of the advantages homosexuality gives a species in nature.

[–]Merlord 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

http://www.livescience.com/22677-girls-dolls-boys-toy-trucks.html

Studies like this one show that gender-related behaviours are not purely due to social expectations, but are biological in nature. The idea that the human brain is in a neutral, genderless state until society comes along is completely, demonstrably false. Just look at our close animal cousins, they follow their own gender norms (with similar levels of variation and exceptions). Is that because of the Chimp Patriarchy enforcing outdated ideas of male and female chimp behaviour?

[–]clearglassofwater 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I guess not, but so many girls prefer trucks and boys prefer dolls that those preferences aren't seen as abnormal by anyone unless they're really stuck on stereotypes, and unfortunately, much of the population is. The idea that girls should prefer dolls and boys should prefer trucks and the restriction and encouragement surrounding those preferences is what makes up the patriarchy. Animals don't have to deal with things like careers, but humans do--I think a lot of our behavior is reproductive in nature (including homosexuality) and that it may have evolved because of reproductive trends, but if all our behaviors naturally fell into place, if they were all inherent, why do humans have such a struggle with gender in the first place?

[–]Merlord 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's important to distinguish between what is and what aught. We absolutely shouldn't judge boys for wanting to play with dolls, we shouldn't assume anything about a person because of a gender stereotype. But that doesn't change the fact that gender exists, and does stem from biology. And in most people, gender matches up with sex pretty reliably.

Most males think of themselves as men, most females think of themselves as women. The struggle some people have with gender can be attributed to the way our bodies develop in the womb. The brain and the body follow different development cycles, and if the hormone balance doesn't match up, you can end up with all sorts of combinations. Men in women's bodies, women in men's bodies, men in androgynous bodies, etc.

[–]clearglassofwater 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think cisgender people feel at home with all or "match" all aspects of their gender--and it goes deeper than an animal feeling failure after losing your female mate to the bigger buck, because we're capable of high-level thinking. Cis men struggle with masculine standards all the time and it causes misery, problems with occupational/social functioning, psychological problems, it may even be a contributor to their suicide rate. A large portion of cis women don't perform feminine behavior or have many feminine interests. They might very well have biological behaviors, but every human society on earth seems to have their own struggles with gender identity whether the people are trans or cis.

I don't doubt that SOME of our behavior is chemical/based from reproductive evolution. And you're right, monkeys DON'T have problems performing gendered behavior. But monkeys also don't have the type of advanced society where this would become a conflict--they don't have careers, they don't have intellectual pursuits, they don't have civil rights systems, their well-being is based on whether or not they can inherit property or have their own bank account. Animals don't have as much gender-baggage as humans, they have no real reason to move away from base reproductive instincts and create a complex society like we have.

If you're using the previous study as an evidence about chemical difference, though, are there similar studies about transgender infants being drawn to the "opposite" gender's toys and having that correspond to a significant hormone difference? Because if it's normal for cisgender folks to be attracted to the "opposite" gender's preferences then I don't know how it would be a trans-indicator. It would be interesting if we could do a hormone test on every baby and see if it's a behavioral predictor, but I haven't seen that done yet. Also the brain-sex studies and hormone studies I've seen, at least on adults, have had mixed/inconclusive results. Yes what you're saying does sound logical if you're talking purely about hormones and biological indicators, I just haven't seen a lot of solid evidence for it.

The struggle some people have with gender can be attributed to the way our bodies develop in the womb.

What I'm looking for is a solid study that definitively says this. I know a transman who had a male twin. Yes, this could have contributed to him feeling male, but millions of cis women have male twins too, so I don't know if it's significant.