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Field ReportNight with a "Beta Girl" (self.TheRedPill)

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(I posted a similar version of this on AskTRP, hoping to get other people's insights... someone suggested this would make a good field report, so here it is:)

TL,DR: I was with a girl who exhibited beta-male traits last night... was able to better understand why women are turned off by them.

This is going to sound like a humblebrag, but I swear it's not the intent... Last night I went over to a newer plate's apartment. The sex is always great and she doesn't expect me to take her out, treat her like we're in a relationship, etc... it's a good situation.

Anyway, something was different last night. She must have been feeling insecure or something... bc ALL she would say were things like "You're so much hotter than me..." "I'm not pretty at all..." "Sorry, I have zero confidence..." All night.

She kept stressing over and over how perfect I am, how good at fucking her I am, and how she isn't as good, isn't as hot, not in my league... and as much as I LOVE fucking her... I'll be damned if what she was saying didn't start to get in my head and turn me off... (like, "Yeah, I AM hotter than you... Maybe she's right, maybe I SHOULD be fucking someone better right now. She's right!")... things that would have NEVER even entered my brain had she just been her normal confident sex goddess self.

I guess what I learned is this: you may feel insecure because she's hotter than you, or she's been with much hotter guys than you... but you know what? KEEP THOSE FEELINGS TO YOUR GOD DAMN SELF. And act ENTITLED to the pussy, no matter how your brain tries to tell you that you're not.

Honest to god, this girl was fawning over me so much and knocking herself so bad that I could literally feel my dick wasn't as hard during the sex... why wouldn't a girl's vag react the same way?

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[–]Endorsed ContributorNeoreactionSafe 55 ポイント56 ポイント  (4子コメント)

 

That was a Comfort Test.

 

You might read some of Rollo Tomassi's writings on it.

 

This is just as normal as a Shit Test... sounds like you sort of freaked out. (failed)

In the future just give moderate Comfort and be comforted you hold power over her.

It's a GOOD THING when she looks up to you, don't forget that.

 

[–]blue_dover 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ding ding ding we have a winner!

[–]clubfugginfooted[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

To be clear, I didn't post as a "woe is me" story. The red pill has been very very good to me recently, and she's one of many plates I'm currently spinning.

I actually did what you said... I just also noted to myself how my brain responded to what she was doing and thought it was interesting to see things from a woman's perspective.

Looking up to me is fine... but being deeply insecure about herself and projecting that out to the world is not a turn on to me.

[–]RoyalBlue- 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If anything its just f*cking annoying

[–]madrealworld 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

this is the only comment that should be upvoted

[–]Stythe 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Seeing that does help give a good, flipped perspective to show you what it looks like from the other end. But it still has the same effect. Bottom line is nobody likes an insecure whiner, men or woman. In her case maybe she was just down and wanted reassurance, but now you know what it looks and feels like. If she gets her cofidence back maybe you'll even see what a slip up looks like and how it is when the other person gets back to normal.

Now imagine if you were always treated like that and everyone around you acted like she did. Eventually it'd go to your head and you'd feel better than you are. This is essentially what's happened to the western woman. It's alpha/ beta on a societal level. Good job on flipping the script though.

[–]clubfugginfooted[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well said.

In my blue pill days, I convinced myself girls were TURNED ON when I showed vulnerability/insecurity after a few dates. "They'll see how comfortable I am opening up to them..." I thought. God, was I a pathetic beta mess. I thank god for finding this community. I'm still learning, but my life has changed so, so drastically over the past year...

[–]Stythe 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not entirely your fault, even if you have to own the blame for not paying attention to reality. Guys are trained from birth to be vulnerable to women and give them control. It's in virtually every medium and since society is so media focused it's difficult to avoid, even if you have good guidance.

Amusing enough, the reason I'm aware of this now is because I ran my life into the ground with an ex believing that if I rolled over and submitted she woukd realie I loved her as well. It's the same mindset you discribe, yet when I did enforce the rules and did steer the ship, she listened and was happy.

[–]Shiva-Lingam 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

As confidence is a trait that women want to see in men, I think the reaction in women is 10 times stronger than what you felt. You still had sex with her, most women wouldn't have fucked a man after that.

[–]harkrank 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

There is no such thing as "beta" girls. All women are submissive to men and dominant towards whoever they think is weaker than them. The beta is simply a man that has adopted the female mindset.

Ask yourself why you are not comfortable with women being submissive towards you. That is the true role of a woman in the company of a man and if you're reacting like a woman would, then you're the one who hasn't accepted yourself as dominant.

[–]clubfugginfooted[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't agree with your diagnosis of me, but it's interesting food for thought. There's a difference between submissive and downright self-deprecating.

I love being dominant in bed, having a woman submit to me... my point is, when you allow your true, deeply rooted insecurities to come out to your sexual partner... it's more than likely going to turn them off. (I've acted like she did in my past blue pill life... not judging.)

[–]rubenbrasil 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not beta, just insecure. Which obviously insecurity is a sign of submissive females and beta males.

TLDR; Give her the good dick. She may be more insecure than your average already insecure chick. She verbally submitted to you and will worship your cock as long as you dont fuck it up.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Shitty Comfort tests failed. You destroyed the girl's confidence even more. Next time take charge and tell her what to do. She will fall into line and be a lot happier and pleasant, most likely. Captain Kirk showed us how. Modify it for a plate but the concept is the same.

The good news is she will probably be back for more.

Good FR with an important lesson/perspective that might make some men understand. You can't fuck her if she is on a pedestal, and if you put her way up there she can only look down on you.

[–]circlhat 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shitty Comfort tests failed. You destroyed the girl's confidence even more.

How did he fail, some women are particular manipulative and love attention, her confidence shouldn't even be a factor in his decisions

[–]_JustASnowFlake_ 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The mistake made is that women are the same as men. They aren't.

That was a comfort test and she is submissive for you.

You got a good thing, just enjoy it while it lasts.

If you haven't already, read the sex god method

[–]Endorsed ContributorNightwingTRP 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Comfort tests. TRP Field Toolkit Part 3, on the AskTRP Sidebar. The other guy was right, this is a useful FR for newer guys to get a bit of perspective on why betas are hated so much by everyone. That behaviour is fucking annoying isn't it?

[–]yomo86 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

SMV disparity and you are not acting on the whims of her pussy. So naturally she is quite beta.

[–]cloudmax40 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This was a comfort test. Women are not children but they are very child-like. They are very emotional creatures. While you should not look for happiness in a woman, women can, do, and should, look for emotional security in men.

Carnal desires aside, and the fact that she will never love you the way you want her to aside... you are both human beings at the end of the day with human needs. Don't be "nice", but do be kind to the women you do fuck.

[–]circlhat 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

i had this happen , its when girls don't have sexual success they act just like beta males. She is Nice girl(TM) and simply wants you to like her

[–]MarauderFH 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

A woman who says shit like this to you is looking for reassurance. Give it to her. She looks up to you and thinks you're awesome. This is literally the opposite of my latest ex and the reason I left her.

Why should I deal with someone who treats me like I'm not the best when other women will treat me like a king.

[–]ACaimonLizardPerson 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"I'm not trying to humble brag BUT" Yeah, come on dude. This wasn't anything insightful or ground breaking. It wasn't even a good story. It was basically you gloating.