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[–]slappydapussy 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I've met only a handful of people in my life that would want to go to the truths booth. Everyone else is content with the lies.

[–]wildfireboat 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hang out with those people

[–]redditttuser 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Me too, sadly.

[–]squidracer 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Idk man, seems like most men around me are pretty aware. Even the ones that get married still know what they are getting into.. we even have a local radio morning show where men call in with their stories of bad exs.

For what it's worth my state is pretty red politically to

[–]dot_dot_beep 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same. In my life I've met three people in meatspace that had a clue about reality.

[–]nu216 41 ポイント42 ポイント  (30子コメント)

I was villified back in high school because I said my classmates were cowards for choosing a hypothetical false reality over the truth in a scenario question. People are generally cowards who can't tolerate any information that threatens a worldview that makes them comfortable.

[–]CarbivoreConnor 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Weak minded scum

[–]hd511[S] 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Afraid to think for themselves. It's like their minds have been assassinated.

[–]TheseAreNaziDroids 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (27子コメント)

I said my classmates were cowards for choosing a hypothetical false reality over the truth in a scenario question.

Can you elaborate? I'm not sure what you mean.

[–]nu216 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (26子コメント)

In our English class our teacher gave us a question based on the book we read in which the protagonist erased his own memories of bad experiences so he could be happy. The question was along the lines of what my classmates and I would do in his place and most of them chose the memory deletion option. When asked why I was the only one who disagreed with the memory deletion option I said it was cowardly and that the truth was more important to me than my happiness.

[–]TheGillos 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I had something similar when my class read 1984. Most, by far, chose to follow the rules, live their lives as best they could. I got into a debate with my teacher when she said I was just trying to go against the grain saying "I'd rather die than live in a totalitarian state like that", that truth and freedom are the most important things.

I got a 60% on that English class assignment. My friend in the class got a 92% even though she had many spelling errors, points were half backed up by the text, and she admitted to me she didn't even read the whole book. To her credit she did parrot the teacher's points pretty well.

The main reason I exited school with a critical and inquisitive mind is that I didn't care about marks. They couldn't fail me, I'll take the 60, fuck you.

[–]Jaeryth 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Lmao what. That entire book is warning about that kind of society. The fuck was she doing by expecting you guys to agree with totalitarian control?

[–]TheGillos 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It was a while ago, but from what I remember she thought that people should follow the rules of law, and work within their society. They shouldn't rock the boat because if they do they might die or get tortured. She basically didn't seem to think I had the balls to die and was just saying that to be a contrarian.

[–]Returnofthemack3 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What a fucking idiot. Yeah, because in the setting of 1984, you could 'work within society' to get anything changed. She's a fucking retard. If no one was willing to die in order to fight oppressive regimes, a lot of places in the world would be like N. Korea. Again, she's such a dumb cunt

[–]Returnofthemack3 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I dont think she's saying to agree with it , but rather to keep your head down for your own safety. That's a really shitty message either way though, and should not be what you derive from reading that book.

[–]Returnofthemack3 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

wow....what the actual fuck. Any teacher that punishes you for that mindset in a discussion of 1984 should be disbarred. That's just insanity; she's basically encouraging people to toe the line in the fact of unjust oppression lol. What year was this if you dont mind me asking? Also-was it in hs?

[–]circuitZero 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's insane! Your teacher was wrong and should be reprimanded for encouraging submission to totalitarian thinking.

[–]TheGillos 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

She was a terrible teacher. I ended up barely passing her course.

Funny anecdote: my friends were making fun of me for getting such shitty grades. So one assignment I just listened to what she said in class, wrote down everything, then rephrased it and put it in my assignment. I got an A+ and a big pink-lettered "Much Improved! Great Work!" on the top.

I showed it to my friends to shut them up. Then I went back to my standard, do what I want, almost get an F standard. Haha.

[–]circuitZero 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Disgusting! School shouldn't be about information retention and regurgitation.

Anyhow, I'm sure that was highschool and had zero impact on your professional and adult life.

[–]TheseAreNaziDroids 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Interesting, I don't know what I would choose. I have a lot of painful memories that I would like to erase, but in a way having them makes me stronger and less likely to repeat my mistakes.

[–]circuitZero 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

They also make you who you are.

[–]TheseAreNaziDroids 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Eh, I don't like to be defined by my mistakes. They help me get to a better place sure, but in the end I want to be in control of what makes me who I am.

[–]Returnofthemack3 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

right. You can't dwell in the past and let it define your present and future, but the past informs you and imparts valuable lessons you learn from, which gives you wisdom, knowledge, and strength moving forward. Without your past, you're not you

[–]circuitZero 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Eternal Sunshine of The Spotless Mind?

[–]nu216 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's a movie. I don't remember the title of the book.

[–]circuitZero 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I could have sworn it was a book first, my bad.

[–]nu216 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I was surprised myself.

[–]gravelheart -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (7子コメント)

So you'd be against curing veterans of PTSD if it involved expunging traumatic memories?

[–]nu216 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I don't understand why you would ask me that question. I've never expressed the opinion that memory deletion as a therapeutic technique should be banned or abolished.

[–]gravelheart 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Perhaps I misunderstood but it seems that you implied it when you said it was cowardly for the protagonist of the book to erase memories of bad experiences so he could be happy.

I didn't intend to put words in your mouth, so sorry if I did.

[–]nu216 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just because I think someone is acting cowardly by doing something it doesn't mean I want that act banned.

Like would you think I wanted screaming at the sight of a bug to be banned because I called the act cowardly? Come on, man.

[–]circuitZero 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Is that a cure or a workaround? PTSD therapy deals with the trauma directly and has you confront the horror you've experienced allowing you to move on. I'd theorise memory eradication is a bit like amputation when physiotherapy is still an option.

[–]gravelheart 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is that a cure or a workaround?

Semantics. The best approach is to just do what has the best outcome and by best I mean that one that allows the person to lead a normal life.

[–]King-Macbeth 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They forgot to add the picketers and SJW's.

[–]DenzeSmoke420 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Couldn't agree more. 👍 😎 👍

[–]former-human2 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's not just women and MGTOW that's the whole of society.

[–]MigrainesRcontagious 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We are living in a time very reminiscent of Plato's "Allegory of the Cave". Ignorance, especially the willful type, is both comfortable and self-deluding.

[–]Tagut1 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah, a line up for chad and the other for the 80% males

[–]ThePenitentMan38 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No body wants the unpleasant truths... until he gets his dick cut off by them women. Sigh!

[–]oh_that_track_suit 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (15子コメント)

I kinda think mgtow is the comforting lie. But who knows in this crazy, topsy turvy world.

[–]hd511[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Before we get to the lie part, How do you find mgtow comforting?

[–]oh_that_track_suit 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (13子コメント)

I don't find it comforting. But I'm guessing people who label them selfs mgtow do.

[–]toldoke 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Do you think mgtow is a comforting lie? If yes, why? Facts don't lie imo. And if it is not a secret, who do you lable yourself as?

[–]oh_that_track_suit -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (11子コメント)

No, I in no way find what the mgtow represents comforting. And while it's almost impossible to talk about your personal philosophies without sounding arrogant, I find myself in a few camps: nihilisim, post-humanism, and realism.

[–]hd511[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (10子コメント)

You're a mgtow. If you don't think anything has any intrinsic value as a nihilist then that would include love, marriage and the rest of the sugar coated shit they sell and that would make you a man going his own way by default.

There is only one core belief with MGTOW and that is that love, romance etc. is all a load crap and monogamy is trap. Everything else is just building on that premise and everyone is free to do as they please. A lot of MGTOWs prefer to continue having sexual relationships and some go monk mode. Everyone approaches the basic premise in their own way. This is not a cult. This is just a group of people who agree on one basic fact.

[–]oh_that_track_suit 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Ya not a mgtow. Currently in a long term relationship with my partner who considers herself a feminist. And I feel I've gone no other way but my own my whole life. So is that m(e)gtow. Is my relationship mgtow?

[–]hd511[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (8子コメント)

If you don't "love" your partner and have no intentions of getting the government involved in what you two get upto in the bedroom (i.e. Marriage) then you're mgtow.

It's very simple, are you sure you're not a woman pretending to be a man? Because men usually understand things pretty quickly.

[–]oh_that_track_suit -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Lol i think your a perfect example that that's not true. Those weren't real questions dude. But I guess you needed that explained to you. And I do love her, it's presumptuous of you to think it would be another way, but you were right were not getting married. So 1 out a 2 not bad I guess. I mean it's only 50% but hey who's counting.

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[–]pleasantlyplumpy 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Though everyone is presented with these two choices.

The unpleasant truth must always be faced, sooner or later.

[–]Trek13 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

or not.... a few hundred thousand dead Arabs, 10,000 dead and 50,000 wounded Americans based on a lie. And now TrumpleThinSkin????? Orwell was prescient thats for sure

[–]801735 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Offering truth usually leads to butthurt because it implies bad decisions in the ones wrongdecisioned life.

[–]frikabg 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The truth is not for anybody. Its for those who search for it and can take it all the rest of the people just keep on living lying to themselves and their lives and suffer more because of their own foolishness.

[–]Factushima 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You could put TRP over there with the BP.

"If I'm aplha enough my girl will be faithful, fun and hyper sexual...yeah bro, come at me!"

[–]wordjedi 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

This is how I felt in the last election. A lot of people are very emotionally invested in working hard and their labor having value, but really there's a big labor surplus in developed countries, so wages are being squeezed down below the high cost of living there. When there's a glut of something on the market, the price goes down. It's time for UBI in developed countries, but too many people are too proud of their labor, so they will sit and wait for things to go back to the 1970s and vote for any fool who says he can turn the clock back.

[–]CBarnacle 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The uncomfortable truth in this example is that women entered the workforce en masse from the 1970s onwards and have saturated the market with labour.

[–]wordjedi 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good point! I've read lots of articles about home ownership being no longer affordable with a single income for most people, but during the same period average houses (in the US) almost doubled in size.

Family size is down though, so it's not like we're packing more people into those extra rooms. People had two paychecks coming in, so they splurged. Now housing stock is way bigger and more expensive than most people can afford, especially in large cities.

[–]lildanny911 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The ignorance is bliss crowd

[–]ChuckFiinley 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pure marketing. Why would you call your product "unpleasant".

"Releasing truths", why don't say you?

[–]JStheHammer 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So true.

[–]Herpnderp145 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sadly this is most of life.

[–]hiddenonion 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This cartoon is an unpleasant truth.

[–]throwawayfucking9000 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Idk why it's so hard for you guys to just not be bitter and petty. The core message of this sub is actually pretty good, but you guys ruin it.