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[–]TheAeolian 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (16子コメント)

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And I watched as statistics came out that showed that black and latino crime was either cultural or biological, not socioeconomic.

Source? This was a big red flag.

edit: a letter

[–]mauxly 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This post could be comedy. This person is either trolling hard, or is completely incapable of thinking for themselves.

They started out as bleeding hearts, based on what others told them to think, and 'facts' that other told them to believe.

They about aced based on what others told them to think, and 'facts' that others told them to believe.

And it's everyone's fault but their own, for not having a critical thinking bone in their own body.

[–]WishingForWhiteness 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

not having a critical thinking bone in their own body

It's OP's critical thinking that led him/her to realize that they were being lied to. It requires critical thinking to examine ones' situation and realize the truth.

OP is blaming those who deceived him. That's perfectly reasonable.

[–]bluest_velvet[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (12子コメント)

My other reddit account is a username I use for other things.

What exactly is the red flag? , I'm not a research database, the data is out there. When you control for socioeconomic status minorities still commit more crime. I honestly don't give a fuck about this, because I am okay with the races being different, I ONLY have a problem with this because ANY deviation from the "white" average is explained as either economic or racial oppression. That's bullshit.

[–]ontopic -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (11子コメント)

I would support your theories, but you've got the phrenological brow ridges of a sexually deviant stevedore.

[–]WishingForWhiteness 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I don't have any kind of counter-argument or rational opinion to add, so I'll use insults instead! Oh-hoho!

Nice going, buddy

[–]ontopic -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

If you weren't dumb you would be able to understand my counterargument.

[–]WishingForWhiteness 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

You called him a retarded homo dock worker. You're not funny, you're just distracting. It's like a physical, visual form of a slide thread.

[–]ontopic -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

You looked up what I wrote on google and almost understood my point. I'd be proud of you if you weren't human garbage.

[–]WishingForWhiteness 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm a "racist", so I knew what you meant when I responded the first time. You're the one using "racist" terms as an insult, so aren't you just as bad as those you're trying to make fun of? Sad!

[–]ontopic -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Look, I'm sorry things have gone so poorly for you that you have to be the way you are, but I'm not really interested in explaining simple concepts to you. I hope you receive precisely what you deserve.

[–]WishingForWhiteness 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

xd Cx NICE :P XP CX XC <(^ _ ^ )>

[–]Momojo -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

We need rational counter arguments against every white supremacist, even though they're using false statistics in bad faith.

[–]WishingForWhiteness 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

false statistics

Sure ok bud, nice counter argument. Good thing the CDC, FBI, DOJ, national police agencies are ALL LYING because they're big racist baddies. Sure showed me. Also, not a white supremacist, so no need to namecall.

[–]_juicy_thighs_ 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

[–]ontopic -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seriously, am I in some kind of alternate reality white nationalist subredditsimulator?

[–]destinyaltboy 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They said it was a throwaway. For obvious reasons.

[–]skypine27 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Glad you finally realized what the left in the US has become.

Most people grow out of it eventually, welcome to adulthood.

[–]AyyKay 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel the same, and it's all compounded by the media. "Racist" I no longer believe it at face value, it's no longer a conversation ender.

[–]IslamicStatePatriot 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fantastic post, thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[–]AggregateFundingRisk 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

wow, youre really not being tolerant enough...

/s

[–]allahu_snakbar 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Your story is eerily similar to mine.

I'm definitely a 'racist' by most people's standards simply because I dared to look at the data objectively and without prejudice.

I don't judge individuals based on the color of their skin. But I do have preferences for different ethnicities.

Since adopting this outlook on humanity, my mental model has mapped much more accurately to the world I see, both in my own experience and in the news. When I was under the influence of the egalitarian, politically correct view I was constantly grasping to explain things and make them fit that world view. I know the feeling when your beliefs do not align with reality and I believe that being in that state for too long will do damage to your psyche.

I wouldn't say that being a 'race realist' has made me happier though.

[–]WishingForWhiteness 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Excellent post. Any person who hates themselves or their race by the merit of what other have said is a fool. Any person who makes a conscious effort to understand what the world is like through actual experience and the study of empirical data is smart. Any person who takes that understanding and makes positive choices in their life and strives to help others is wise.

If you need people to talk to, there are those out there who are willing.

[–]bluest_velvet[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

What I don't get is this:

  • I'm responsible for the evil deeds of my ancestors.
  • I'm not responsible for the good deeds of my ancestors.

That makes no sense. I'm happy to just be treated as an individual but there are people who only want to see me as a part of my race.

[–]destinyaltboy 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And you're the only one responsible. Africans who sold Africans into slavery are ignored.

[–]WishingForWhiteness 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's another double-think tactic of the pardon how cheesy this sounds cultural marxists that want to destroy aspects of white culture it sees as dangerous. I'm sure you're already learning what you can about it, but these attempts at disenfranchising white people have been in the works for a good 80 years now. The Frankfurt School of thought is a good place to start if you want to look into the history of this stuff.

[–]sappycap 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

really makes you think...

[–]Dial_the_911 -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (11子コメント)

"I'm a racist piece of shit, but it's not my fault!!"

[–]bluest_velvet[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (9子コメント)

I'm okay with spreading lies and creating racists as a result, just as long as they take responsibility for it at the end!

You're worse than me.

[–]quietdays 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (8子コメント)

If you are what you say you are head over to the altright. It's one of the few race realist subs on this leftist site.

[–]bluest_velvet[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I've devled into the race realist stuff, these people are a bit too vitriolic for me. I don't care if people or races are different. That's the problem, people are terrified of the idea that the races might have different qualities and so are more inclined to just blame it on other races.

[–]quietdays 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I know it may be hard to acknowledge it but you can't deny some of the things they post are true and are swepped under the rug by the media. At least lurk there for a while.

[–]bluest_velvet[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't take issue with the data, but I can't be around that kind of tone just for my own sanity.

[–]mauxly -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (4子コメント)

So, you admit that the altright is racist?

[–]WishingForWhiteness 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

I guess they are then. But that would mean that they actively pursue segregation, racially motivated deportation, etc. And at this point, the Alt-Right doesn't seem to be supporting that. Would you call Black Nationalists that want to bring down the US government 'racist'?

[–]mauxly 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Would you call Black Nationalists that want to bring down the US government 'racist

Yes.

[–]WishingForWhiteness -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ok, just making sure we're on a level playing field there. I personally think that racism (the understanding that there are differences between the races, and that some aspects are better than others) is not a bad thing. I think it's been made bad by abusive people. But it's also been turned in to an "evil" label by people who would turn right around and blame the condition of poor black people on inherent white privilege (racism). It's two different sides of the racism coin.

Point I'm trying to make is this: there is constructive racism and destructive racism. If you want to attribute one of those types of racism to the alt-right, I believe it would be the constructive variety.

[–]quietdays 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Race realism is not "racism".

[–]Blue-5 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Turns out you can't shame someone by calling them a racist IF THEY JUST GOT DONE EXPLAINING THAT. Have a nice 8 years.

[–]polylov -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Yeah, I read through to the first paragraph and I've seen just about all I need; not reading all that shit by you.

First, I seriously doubt you're as well educated as you claim. If you were, then you would not fall for the racists' tricks that you so obviously have fallen for. If you are in fact educated, then you must be extremely feeble-minded.

The way you communicate tells me that you are actually a dyed in the wool racist who is pretending to be left leaning. I've read a number of arguments from racists (I'm sure all the exact same stuff that's in your post, nothing new under the sun when it comes to racism) and you don't sound like a progressive person who has been won over. You sound exactly like someone who has been racist their entire life.

I'm curious to know what those four films are that you supposedly worked on? Why don't you tell us? Is it because you're lying and trying to break the faith that people have in progressivism? Let me inform you, it's not going to happen. Nobody buys your bullshit.

[–]AggregateFundingRisk 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

wow! see this is the close mindedness im used to at my university: if I didnt conform with the professors opinion then I got bad grades / shamed.

[–]AyyKay 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep I was pushed into mandatory social justice courses and lowered my gpa just because I held conservative views on immigration. There were no conservative professors to have someone take a second look either. No one wanted to be harassed by the increasing radical left on campuses.

[–]bluest_velvet[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (9子コメント)

I never said I'm well-educated. I said "I'm not uneducated...extremely to the contrary". I graduated from a top 40 undergrad and top 20 grad school. My school district growing up was one of the best in the country.

I never considered or represented myself as a "progressive". I've been centrist my whole life up until now, I don't know what I am now.

I'm curious to know what those four films are that you supposedly worked on? Why don't you tell us? Is it because you're lying and trying to break the faith that people have in progressivism? Let me inform you, it's not going to happen. Nobody buys your bullshit.

Are you crazy? Even before I was a "racist" I couldn't even share my moderately conservative view on gun ownership on the job for fear of blacklists and backlash. If you think I'm going to give away information that could be used to identify me (hint: there aren't that many female producers) you are out of your mind. My career would be destroyed. That's another thing I've witnessed that has sickened me...

[–]polylov -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (7子コメント)

That's another thing I've witnessed that has sickened me...

Good, that's more like it anon. Also use the word "disgusted" a lot, these people like to virtue signal about how little tolerance they have for racism and bigotry.

[–]bluest_velvet[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (6子コメント)

People losing their job for even moderately conservative political views is not a joke.

[–]polylov -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Mmm I don't think so sweetie. See you are entirely free to hold those opinions, and us as the populace, we are entirely free to tell you to shove those opinions. This past election has shown the world that conservatives are utter morons who will only vote based on fear, bigotry, racism and xenophobia. Conservatives consistently vote to disenfranchise PoC, LGBTQIAO people, women, Muslims, and basically anyone who isn't a privileged white male.

If a company so chooses not to employ such hatred, it is entirely within their right to terminate your employment. In fact, it's a very good thing business-wise. If it comes out that they are employing racists, people will begin to boycott the business. Besides, these deplorable people should not be given allowances so that they may continue their disgusting behavior.

[–]WishingForWhiteness 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Holy shit, is this copypasta?

[–]polylov -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Nope it's what /u/bluest_velvet should aspire to. I've read enough of this bullshit I can pump it out in my sleep.

[–]WishingForWhiteness 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You've succeeded in using buzzwords to oppress people with opinions opposite to your own. You have done nothing but alienate others. Do you think you can actually help the downtrodden and TRULY oppressed in this country by telling people to stop having opinions that don't fit your narrative? It's been proven AGAIN AND AGAIN that Trump didn't win due to fear, bigotry, racism and xenophobia... to disenfranchise PoC, LGBTQIAO people, women, Muslims, and basically anyone who isn't a privileged white male.. He won because he was a better candidate than a corrupt democrat.

Trump had huge numbers of the minority vote, relative to previous candidates. He had greater public support from minorities than anyone expected. I could go on and on about how wrong you are in calling half of the voting population every one of those mean words you just listed, but I don't think I'd be able to convince you that you're wrong. So have a good night and try to grow up a little.

[–]bluest_velvet[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ignoring how wrong this is about your average conservative... You do realize that what you do by silencing people like this is create an ideological black market. Free and open discourse has a moderating effect because you are forced to debate and talk to others. If you take that away you are just asking for people to grow bitter and vitriolic and more extreme. Remember two things:

1) The ballot box is anonymous.
2) The political intimidation you just described fits the Merriam Webster definition of terrorism.

[–]destinyaltboy 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe use those talents in a constructive way to make a change in discourse possible.

[–]destinyaltboy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I can tell you that I am very much in the same boat. I want out, to be honest, but I don't have an answer for this: http://m.imgur.com/a/D7r6j

I have half hearted excuses. I have knee jerk theories. But that's it.

And now I have career ending, social ostracizing thought crimes swirling around in my brain.

Please help me.

[–]ontopic -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (12子コメント)

What the fuck is going on in here?

Are you fabulous babes having a Nazi girl scout meeting or something?

[–]Momojo -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's exactly what's happening. A Nazi is making up a bullshit story and a bunch of other Nazis are coming in and posting bullshit. They're making themselves sound all reasonable to disguise their propaganda, but this is all "race realism" bullshit.

[–]ontopic 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think 'them' might be 4 computers in one sad basement.

[–]WishingForWhiteness -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Going through your post history would imply that you live in a basement yourself. Who the fuck has time to post that many comments?

[–]WishingForWhiteness 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I sincerely doubt any of these people would identify as National Socialists, but then again the distinction would be too hard for you to pull apart.

Good going pulling a phat strawman out of your bum.

[–]cooliotopnotch41 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Nice strawman

[–]ontopic -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

So someone half explained to you what a strawman argument is, and you almost understood it, huh?

[–]WishingForWhiteness 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

wow ur an eggspert at le interwebz argooments Cx

[–]ontopic -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

/u/wishingforwhiteness coming up lacking in a big spot. Hate to see that.

[–]gpinurasscrx 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Adhering to truth and scientific data makes one a Nazi?

[–]ontopic -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Interpreting data without context or critical thinking to confirm your own biases does.

[–]WishingForWhiteness 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Both context and critical thinking led OP to make the conclusions that they did. Eat shit mane