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/r/writingprompts mod admits to selectively deleting prompts they find too "sad", later the entire thread is nuked as criticism grows. (i.imgur.com)

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[–]PoorLilMarco 92 ポイント93 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Moderation is always about personal feelings, not objective guidelines

Literally feels > reals

[–]StezzerLolz 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Actually, they're 100% right. Mods are dictators, not elected representatives, and they have total power. If they decide to follow objective guidelines, so be it, but if they decide not to then that's their prerogative and there's fuck all the userbase can do to stop them. There's no Reddit rule that says moderators have to be fair and balanced.

So, yeah. In this case, feels = reals, and if you don't like it then too bad.

[–]Mircabre[M] 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Banned

[–]xthorgoldx 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thing is, you're absolutely right: mods (and admins) can do whatever the fuck they please, they have the power and the rules are 100% arbitrary. I don't have a problem with mods who do curate content on wholly subjective bases - see r/askhistorians for an example of how that can work well.

The problem is that most of the time, mods don't want to admit to this. They want all the goodwill of being "fair, community-guided volunteers" and all the power of mod permissions.

If Lexi had just said "Yeah, the rules are a general guideline, but mods have last say and I removed them," then that's fine. I might disagree with it, but that doesn't make it wrong. Heck, I might even agree with the judgment; this incident aside, Lexilogical is a veteran of writingprompts, puts out a lot of genuinely good content (the AskLexi workshops), and is generally speaking a pretty good mod. However, that Lexi is trying to rationalize it in such a manner, specifically a "I did nothing, you're the one who's wrong for thinking I did," is where the problem lies.

[–]Strephyl 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The mighty censorship warrior strikes again

[–]PM_ME_HAIRLESS_CATS 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How seriously have you got to take a volunteer position for a startup to feel this way about it ha ha ha get off the internet

[–]xil3h [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Subjective moderation has got to go. It's the same cycle of: User finds out post was destroyed given no reason, goes to mods, mods makes a claim, claim shot down, moderator runs away.

[–]o11c [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Have you ever been a moderator for any userbase including people you don't personally know?

There are always users who love to push the boundaries, and in the process severely degrade the quality of the forum. Moderator discretion is essential - and often transparency only leads to unnecessary backlash by people who weren't involved otherwise, but just wanted to start shit.

The one flaw with Reddit is that subreddit names are major real estate, and defaults even more so. But that mainly applies to subreddits related to news/politics.

But also, remember the inviolate rules 8 and 9 of the internet:

  1. There are no real rules about posting.

  2. There are no real rules about moderation either — enjoy your ban.

[–]xil3h [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I understand what you're trying to say. It's important for a website, in this case the moderators of each subreddit to control the quality of a subreddit so it doesn't get out of control - witch hunting and harassment, copied and pasted content, or anything that could ruin its quality shouldn't be allowed.

In my case I have had appropriate content submitted to subreddits which was well received by users, 2000-4000 upvotes, 200-1000 positive comments contributing to the topic effectively. To only find out my post was secret removed by a moderator who personally did not like it, discussed with other moderators of that subreddit to be told it was "okay to post what you did" and this moderator got away with disrupting my post with no real purpose, given me no idea it was hidden from anyone but myself. This is something that has happened to me several times in the past year - If my content is original, serves purpose to the subreddit, obeys rules - I don't see the point of it being disrupted. Yes, one can argue it's up to moderators to do whatever they want if it's their subreddit. Though in sake of keeping fresh content in popular subreddits it harms the process when subjectively being ruled the content is "personally not in my taste" from whatever moderator. I think it's abusing power and harming the community of certain subreddits in certain cases. Which could explain why dozens ofssubreddits recently only have the same 5 types of post constantly posted. For me personally, I feel limited even beyond the rules I read carefully to post in some places.

In response I have discussed with moderators to certain subreddits who have acknowledged this as a problem. The moderators found ways of ruling things more appropriately and being more transparent (personally, or with an appropriate moderator account), or just simply making stickys so spam isn't much of a problem when dealing with popular topics; jaywalkers are going to cross if a crosswalk isn't in place.

Edit: Wrote this on my phone in a rush. Hopefully this explained my point.

[–]80BAIT08 58 ポイント59 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Wtf I loved that thread. /u/lexilogical what kind of mentally frail degenerate are you deleting everyone's writing effort they put forward to share and get writing experience with? Demod yourself writingprompts is clearly not for you. Bob Ross brings people joy and because you have such a weak character you've denied everyone else the joy Bob Ross brings.

[–]ChooChooFiretruck[S] 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Bad phrasing on my part, I meant entire comment thread this was discussed in, not the whole thread. The writing replies are still there, although ceddit shows quite few removed ones.

He did however nuke two previous writing prompts that he were deemed too "sad". Apparently feels are serious business and "You don't shit on someone's life for clickbait entertainment". It's funny how he managed to get an opinion of a "large portion" of a 9 million subscribers base tho.. Unless he meant some small IRC-club that gets to decide what the rest of 9 millions want?

[–]system0101 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not active in their IRC anymore, or WP in general, but I've said over and over that the worst part of writingprompts is the reddit.com part. Crappy frontpage-inspired prompts are merely a symptom. Granted, quality control is subjective, but at least there is some.

[–]John_Ketch -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Their IRC page is one of the saddest I've seen. Some of these losers are on 24/7 especially this autist: /u/SurvivorType

[–]AellaGirl 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I feel like /u/lexilogical is probably unfamiliar with many philosophies of wellbeing that emphasize the embracing of sadness, that sadness exists for a purpose and it's healthy not to try to repress or run away from it. It also serves the purpose of letting sad people know they're not alone, or lets them know it's ok to be sad.

Censoring sadness seems like a scary 50s pleasantville sitcom where the rulers say they determine what emotions are useful to people or not. Ultimately I think it's really shortsighted and damaging to emotional health.

[–]80BAIT08 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (2子コメント)

As Bob Ross said himself "gotta have a little sadness once in a while so you know when the good times are." It'd seem this went right over /u/lexilogical head.

[–]AellaGirl 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

also Pixar's Inside Out. The entire point of that movie was to quit doing exactly what the mods of /r/writingprompts are doing.

[–]BigDaddy_Delta 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe /u/lexilogical is just a cry baby

[–]paranoiainc [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Maybe /u/lexilogical never watched that Pixar's Inside Out movie on the importance of sadness.

[–]DownvoterAccount 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's like a symptom of millenial escapism. Same with adult coloring books and nostalgia for 90s pop culture. They want a fall back to a time when they were always happy and never sad.

[–]lifesbrink 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think u/lexilogical could be a good contender for sperg mod of the year!

[–]Chanchumaetrius 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Oh no, shitty painting man from my 80s American childhood may have had nuance to his personality :(

[–]snallygaster 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (3子コメント)

shitty painting man

dys

[–]EmeraldFlight 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

"him being sad might be harmful to our community"

grow the fuck up

[–]paranoiainc [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Don't forget that "This world doesn't need any more sad"

[–]glmox 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

shitty painting man

excuse me

[–]ChooChooFiretruck[S] 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The ceddit url of deleted comments. There was more last time I checked, but that's all it could recover. Also, according to some quotes, this was done with the full support from rest of the mod-team.

[–]pitaenigma 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I swear I've seen that prompt a hundred times, along with "Batman and Joker need to do something together"

[–]brandstone 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Gay sex? Spit roast Robin?

[–]pitaenigma 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

"Batman goes to court, Joker's his lawyer", "Joker helps Batman solve a mysterious crime that has even Batman mixed up" "Joker throws Batman a birthday party", there are twenty of them each day.

[–]StezzerLolz 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You know what? Fuck it, I stand with /u/Lexilogical. Users are schizophrenic degenerate retards, and deserve to be ignored at every opportunity. And if they don't like it then they can cry into their karma at /r/oppression.

#FuckTheUserbase

[–]Senator_Chickpea 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The WP itself is more dippy than sad. Sad would be

"Struck by the existential crisis that consciousness is finite in an infinite universe, Bob Ross makes one final attempt to create a window into the dream world in just 25 minutes.

Oh, and he's just run out of Alizarin Crimson."

[–]TonyFuckingDanza 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Bob Ross is a sacred, mystical figure and his legacy shall not be tarnished as long as I am MODERATOR of this internet message board for NEET fat people with shiny foreheads."

only knows about Bob Ross because some stoned 14 year-old shitposted a meme of a funny old dude with round hair one time

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[–]newcomer_ts 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You have to wonder if Catch-22 would be as successful as it is if it were published under its original title, Catch-18.

[–]ITS_JUST_SATIRE_BRO 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How does a fictional story in a subpar subreddit "unravels" anything this guy did? I even had to google him because I'm not american. His show is 30+ years old most of his fans aren't even aware of what reddit is.

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[–]BashfulHandful 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

What the fuck is that sub? And the ones linked in the comments on some of the posts?

Anyone?

[–]willfe42 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well great. We're on somebody's "people to kill" list now because we read an argument about Bob Ross.

[–]BashfulHandful [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Right? Jesus fucking Christ. Those subs are weird as shit.

[–]MayorEmanuel 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

https://youtu.be/3HGwIFJneeY?t=73

The writing prompt the mods don't want you to see.

[–]snallygaster 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sad!

[–]CarcosianKing [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Chicago 4/Ft Lauderdale crossover WP when?

[–]RandomRedditor44 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Moderation is always about personal feelings, not objective guidelines

Wrong. Mods should follow the rules, and not there own feelings.