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[–]willkinton247Hiroshima and Nagasaki underwent urban renewal 77 ポイント78 ポイント  (1子コメント)

CROSSED THE ATLANTIC IN SIX DAYS.

[–]decencybedamnedthe Cathars had it coming 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Elle Woods voice: What, like it's hard?

[–]Halocon720Source: Being Alive 108 ポイント109 ポイント  (17子コメント)

Nono, it's totally true. They did it in 1250 and the Aztecs invaded Europe.

[–]Ahemmusa 79 ポイント80 ポイント  (1子コメント)

They should just let Paradox write the history textbooks at this point.

[–][deleted] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Incidentally that's nearly the exact plot of "The Norseman" with Lee Majors from 1978.

[–]Friendly_Ghoul 51 ポイント52 ポイント  (7子コメント)

r/CrusaderKings is the only source for my historical needs.

[–]NihilistDandy 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (6子コメント)

EUIV is much more amusing. I could write a thesis on the Cree conquest of Ireland and Portugal in 1310.

[–]Mictlantecuhtli[S] 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (5子コメント)

How do you start earlier in EUIV? I think I've always started in the 1400s. Do I need one of the DLCs?

[–]NihilistDandy 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think 1444 is actually the earliest you can go in official EUIV and DLC. I just pulled a number out of nowhere. There are probably mods to set weird start dates, though. :D

[–]ArmoredSpearhead 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes it is, you'll have to mod the game to go farther down.

[–]Gsonderling 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The game is set to begin in 1444. The developers chose this date because of Crusade of Varna and breakup of Sigismunds realm after his death.

But, the earlier dates are still there. Up to 1350s I think. All the events and borders are coded. Of course it can't compare with proper start date when it comes to accuracy, but the basics like rulers and unions is there.

[–]ThoctarTool of the Baltic Financiers 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yup, EUIII actually started a little earlier.

[–]The22ndRaptorLee Harvey Oswald killed Karl XII. 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Extended Timeline will let you. It's a mod that extends the game's playable time period to 58 CE - 2016 CE (with up to year 9999 playable).

[–]UcumuHigh American Tech Group 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Right. That's how we got to the Nahuatl Byzantine Renaissance of the 1370s.

[–]Halocon720Source: Being Alive 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nahuatl Byzantines?! Heresy against St. Markos and Iesous Khristos! The Angeloi Protect! Ave Imperator!

/s

[–]PepperglueChinese had slaves picking silk out of mulberry trees 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Great AAR. Too bad it hasn't been updated for so long.

[–]ActuallyUlysses 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Serious question... was it before or after Glitterhoof created HRE?

[–]Luhood 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Serious question... was it before or after Glitterhoof created HRE Equestria?

FTFY. I too know my sources.

[–]Halocon720Source: Being Alive 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just after. The conquest of Ostmark ended in late 1248, finally gaining him enough territory to recreate the HRE as it was under his predecessor Twilight Sparkle.

[–]Zelda_Galadriel 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Damn it you beat me to the punch. xD

[–]Ahemmusa 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (6子コメント)

How long until we start seeing secret Viking settlements in Hangzhou?

[–]Mictlantecuhtli[S] 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (4子コメント)

[–]Joeman45You can't handle my strongest sources! 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Chinese Scientist Proves the First Inhabitants of China Were Black

I mean, if we're going with the Out of Africa theory, weren't the first inhabitants of everywhere most likely black?

[–]Ahemmusa 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Because if there's anything that screams 'academic authenticity' to me, it's a person using the terms 'Negritos' as an ethnic description.

On the last of those articles, they took an interesting jump from 'all Homo Sapiens can trace ancestry back to individuals originating in parts of Africa' to 'The first Chinese people were black.' I know blackness is kinda an arbitrary definition but I feel like they may have gone a bit over the mark here.

[–][deleted] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well Vikings did undoubtably reach and travel along the silk road... So as long as we slap a big, fat "maybe" as a prefix, we can get our Chinese Viking groove on all night, son.

[–]dorylinusMercator projection is a double-pronged tool of oppression 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ari Marson set sail from Ireland in an attempt to reach Greenland. The story has it that Marson’s ship ran into rough seas and a storm threw him off course. Within six days he had reached Mexico instead.

Even today, with a "modern" sailboat that can average ~7 knots, it takes about three weeks (usually more) to sail from New England to Portugal. Apparently Ari Marson invented the hydroplane as well.

[–]JFVarletThe Phantom Time Hypothesis never happened. Wait, what..... 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I await the upcoming collaboration with Gavin Menzies, where it is revealed that the Vikings bumped into the Chinese while in Mexico.

[–]atomfullereneHistory before 1837 is a fabrication of the Victorians 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Those weren't really Chinese though, just the descendants of Crassus' lost legion.

Things didn't go well when they ran into the 10 tribes though, tried to repeat Masada

[–]Hydrall_Urakan 45 ポイント46 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Reading this post on my way out from work convinced me to pick up a six pack on the way home.

Sheesh.

[–]Mictlantecuhtli[S] 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'm sorry my writing sucks

[–]Hydrall_Urakan 50 ポイント51 ポイント  (2子コメント)

What? No, that's not why. Just that someone could weave as weird a fantasy over such a bizarre concept. "The natives fought alongside black people against oppressing viking invaders but only became oppressed in turn!"

It sounds like they started writing a fantasy novel and only decided halfway through to try and make it 'historical'.

[–]Illogical_BloxThe Popes, of course, were usually Catholic 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Actually, I remember reading a book where the Vikings were attacking the Aztecs. It was one of the Everworld series.

[–]CanadairySuperior European stick and shit construction. 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The first one, wasn't it? Not a bad series for YA fantasy.

I also read a book in which the Mongols recruited North American Vikings to help in their conquest of the Aztecs.

[–]ShroudofTuringContrary to Popular Belief, Roman Fortifications 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a long-running joke around here.

/r/BadHistory: come for a laugh, stay because you've been driven to drink so hard that you can no longer operate your mouse.

[–]kraggers 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yeah, but if the Mayans never met Vikings then why was white associated with North? Like White Norsemen? Boom.

[–]Mictlantecuhtli[S] 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Personal preference? For the Aztecs, east is red, south is blue, west is white, north is black, I couldn't find the center. For the Tarascan the colors were east was red, south was black, west was white, north was yellow, and the center was blue.

[–]kraggers 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I was just making a dumb joke, but it is interesting to know there were differences.

[–]Mictlantecuhtli[S] 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sorry, I know you were. I just wanted to share

[–]kraggers 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Stop making me learn, man!

jk, thanks for the post.

[–]jon_hendry 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It stands to reason that there was extensive contact, otherwise why would the deities of both cultures be in my Deities and Demigods book for Dungeons and Dragons? They may also have had contact with elves and hobgoblins.

[–]NihilistDandy 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Honestly, if these mainstream "historians" would just open their eyes, they'd see the traces of Corellon Larethian's influence all over Xochicalco.

[–]BeardedKarma 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I get all my history from video games, and The Secret World clearly shows that vikings fought with indigenous tribes of what is now Maine against invading Mayan forces from the south.

This bad history is probably where that plot line came from.

[–]CaesarCV 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was going to bring that up! Although I guess it does sort of fit the game's "all myths are true" setup in that regard anyway. It probably is where it came from.

[–]TheStalkerFang 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If they didn't, how did the Sunset Invasion happen?

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[–]Nehefer 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

As a Mexican, your takedown was hilarious to read. Thank you for that.

[–]Rapedbyakoala 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe I am remembering this wrong, but was, nt this nonsense the plot of a clive cussler book? or at least something along the lines of "vikings in mexico" was

[–]correrporvida 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just thank you. The world needs more people like you. Well read and cited sources show you are above the common drabble that gets published in the name of science. Keep up the good fight.

[–]jabberwockxeno 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I saw somebody trying to insist that The solutreans built Tenochtitlan, Cholula, and Teotihaucan the other day.

Not "The solutrean hypothesis is correct and they were the ancestors of native Americans and as a result those sites", but that both the Asian migration and the solutrean hypothesis was correct, native americans were the asian migration decedents, but none of them built all of those sites and they were instead built by a separate line of desdcents from the solutrean's crossing over to the americas.