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The Truth About Afterbirth + (self.bindingofisaac)

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Afterbirth + is a shitty disapointing expansion that ruins the games difficulty and fails to add anything truely noteworthy.

The final boss is lazy

Items are dull and mostly useless

Gameplay changes to item-rooms ruin the flow of the game

The unlock method for Half-Spirit Hearts is fucking stupid

Character buff's are about as useful as a 90 year olds penis

I could go on but Afterbirth + is complete fucking garbage

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[–]Mirkrid 64 ポイント65 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yo you had to hold R to reset 5 runs in a row to unlock those hearts. It's kinda silly but I don't see how that's really something worth complaining about

[–]redteamgone 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Had I not read about it, I never would have unlocked it. I rarely restart, and definitely not for starting items.

I thought it was kind of funny, though.

[–]YoungestOldGuy 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There is a lot of stuff in Isaac people only know because they read about it. So that shouldn't even be a problem.

[–]MathRaven27 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Blackhole spawners are god damn stupid...

[–]KingKnotts 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not really, I would say they just are placed too early.

[–]Shozou 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ah, feels just like the first days after Rebirth came out. And then Afterbirth. And then Afterbirth's patched version.

/r/circlejerk

[–]zillad2 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thx! finally a good post

[–]Omnipotent_Entity 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Alright my plan is to wait for Antibirth to be compatible with regular Afterbirth. Are the new modding tools only available with AB+?

[–]dawizard2579 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Doubt they'll make it compatible with Afterbirth, when AB+ is so much easier to mod

[–]HighlanderSteve 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (6子コメント)

The Antibirth devs (Kilburn and NYS mainly, afaik) are understandably pretty pissed at AB+'s release. They seem to not want to port it over to AB+.

[–]Klacksaft 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (2子コメント)

They were probably never going to port it in the first place, since they seem to have quite the chip on their shoulder when it comes to Edmund/Nicalis.

[–]langevloei 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

how so?

[–]Klacksaft 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sagittarius seems a bit hurt by Nicalis passing him/her over to work on rebirth.

[–]El_Giganto 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why the fuck not? It's not like Antibirth is that good. The new floors all have the same 3 bosses over and over again, so you don't see most of the old bosses. Their new floors are beautiful, but you'll only go there because of the better item rooms. There are many unfair rooms in Antibirth as well, like those fire flies if you're Azazel with a range downgrade. Literally can't hit them.

Not to mention how goddamn often it crashes. I've never had BoI crash on me but for Antibirth I expect it to happen in every single run. Or how about how some of their bosses are bullshit as well? Some can be learned, you'll get flawless after multiple runs, but still, that Pin-like Downpour boss can be such a fucking pain in the ass.

I love Antibirth, but the amount of complaints AB+ gets that can be made for Antibirth as well, is insane. Yet the latter gets excused. Acting like the actual DLC is far less professional. It clearly is not. Antibirth is far less professional. Else it wouldn't crash all the fucking time.

They should add it to AB+. That way we can remove things we don't like from the official game and easily add to Antibirth.

[–]weaver900 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not that they're pissed as much as the API doesn't allow a lot of the things they needed to make Antibirth. They still need to mod the exe if they want to mod AB+, so it's simpler to port backwards rather than make a nasty hybrid of hacked in C++ and Lua.

[–]LeokadioL 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (18子コメント)

What is the final boss?

[–]LeokadioL 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

And how do you get to it?

[–]Max_Monkey 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I beat Hush with Apollyon... it opens up a new area after your hush fight that is basically Boss Rush meets The Chest

[–]DJ_JewJew 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You just have to beat the hush with any character I think

[–]Thebindingofpizza[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Delirium

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e28-303xWCM

Not exactly sure on how to get to him yet but trust me you aren't missing much

[–]GumballTheScout 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The final boss is lazy

Not sure how to get to him

what.

[–]Shadekitty 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (12子コメント)

That was a pretty neat boss fight. It didn't seem lazy to me.

[–]darkChozo 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (1子コメント)

People are shitting on it because it's all reskins but I think that the idea of a boss that turns into other bosses is actually really cool. It's also difficult without just relying on ridiculous overwhelming bullet patterns (Hush and some of the Antibirth bosses come to mind).

IMO, the biggest problem with him is that he just kind of comes out of nowhere and that there's a rather important story bit after him. I think he'd have been a lot better if they just never made Hush and had the Void/Delerium as a fun side path instead of a final final boss.

(Also fix the animation issue and make the fight not take seven years. And make the Void interesting while you're at it)

[–]Kitty_Bug 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The impression that I'm getting is that people are upset with having more scaling health, so glass cannon builds are heavily disfavoured because there is no way you'll kill any of the new later bosses without taking at least a couple of hearts of damage. The second problem people seem to have with delirium is that he's fast and unpredictable. Some of the transitions in the boss fight seem a little glitchy. All in all the Delirium fight often seems to feel like you have to lean heavily on permanent Polaroid invincibility or an algiz rune which makes beating the boss feel a little contrived. It's appearance of being melting forms of the other bosses is really cool and I like that part of it.

[–]Omnipotent_Entity 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (8子コメント)

It looks like recolors or light changes to existing boss sprites, nothing exciting in attacks, big health pool to make the fight longer but not necessarily more fun/difficult.

The ending was alright i guess, but honestly I prefer the ending of Antibirth.

[–]toonwa 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (2子コメント)

the hush version of that thing is horrible, not a single bit of animation

[–]Quazifuji 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Apparently that's a big that has already been fixed.

[–]Ozzyrockin 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's the only complaint really, even shaking like a gaper would make this thing feel more energetic like it actually is

[–]Semperi95 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's kinda fitting for a final boss though isn't it? Isaac has to fight all the monsters he's faced up until that point all over again.

[–]Omnipotent_Entity -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

If he was summoning undead versions of them all, maybe I would be alright with it, but they basically just made light modifications and recolored existing sprites, and the hush stage has no animation at all. It doesn't feel like it fits with the story or the lore either, and certainly doesn't feel worthy of the title "Final Boss".

[–]darkspine509 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Them being undead would just be the same as light modifications and recolors of existing sprites though. I think it's fine as it is, really. Minus it's main body not having animation.

[–]Omnipotent_Entity 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I dislike the idea of Delirium actually being all the bosses you fought, because then there's no reason you should have made it past the first floor. If he has the power to transform into all those bosses and doesn't actually die when you kill the puppets or whatever, then you should have died on the first boss when he just transformed again upon being killed, if you understand what I'm saying. Now, if he was simply more powerful than those bosses and convinced them to do his bidding, it would make more sense for him to bring them back in the final fight as bosses.

Also, he transforms into mom and it lives, which makes no sense, since that would mean Delirium was Isaac's mom all along. It would also mean that the womb floors took place inside Delirium disguised as Isaac's mom (assuming that the womb and utero are actually Isaac's mom, Im not super sure about the lore) and that Delirium allowed isaac free passage through not only the bosses but Delirium himself.

[–]Kitty_Bug 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My issue with it is the same issue that plagues the ultra greed fight and the hush fight. I just don't get why these all have scaling health. Honestly imo Hush should have scaling health and that should be its gimmick, but if you manage to break the game and get a ton of damage then why is it wrong to kill the bosses in seconds?

[–]Allanon_2020 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There is no animation between sprite and are just skinned white bosses.

Pretty lazy

[–]Vellet 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

how does one unlock half-spirit hearts?

[–]SolarFlareWings 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

By resetting. (Holding R.) Dunno how many times though. 10 or 15. I just got it after awhile when I started spamming reset due to the nonsense that is the new portal rooms.

[–]Brandon_Me 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Potato peeler is dope

[–]CompressedWizard 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

IM just waiting for antibirth to be compatable with afterbirth