So I was at the church during Christmas helping a friend out cuz I had nothing better to do. Me, my friend and his uncle volunteered to stand at the gates to make sure people park correctly (and to tell them to scram when the parking spots are full, best part of the job).
The old man is a very hardy one. He was from the time when men were still men and not pussified like they are today. All with the 70s moustache, beard, muscle and the IDGAF attitude. Now he's a very devoted Christian and has called some pastors out on their bullshit to the point where they forbid him from entering the church. He just flipped them the middle finger, cussed them a little, would use violence when needed and entered anyway and there was nothing they could do about it.
I don't really care about churches either way. I just like how he gets things done and how everyone is literally afraid of him because of his "toxic masculinity" (while I'm willing to bet the other men in the church had none) and this is something men should learn nowadays; how to display authority and not be a fucking doormat.
But that isn't even the best part. He was never married despite the stigma from his time, he just gave everyone the middle finger and went his own way. He told me and my buddy this, his exact words: "All women are the same, they are all disgusting and disrespectful. The only difference between any two women is how well they can hide this fact."
He then went to mention a verse from the bible. Now whatever your religious background (or lack thereof) may be, the fact that you're here and you've read this far means you acknowledge that this verse holds true for our time: unless you're someone from the TBP subreddit, in which case you can just link this thread as usual and fuck off.
--Who can find a virtuous woman? Her price is far above rubies.
Proverbs 31:10
The old man told me the "good woman" may or may not exist but if she does, she would be a hell lot "hard to find than precious stones". She would be a ruby among 3.5 billion other red coloured pebbles. She just isn't worth looking for.
After a while an old friend of his joined in. It was starting to become more of a "guys night out" rather than volunteer work. This guy was a typical divorced man; Got married due to social pressure, wife was a snowflake till kids came, turned psycho, divorced, took the kids, tried to assert her dominance and control over them but it backfired when they grew up, kids got rebellious and couldn't take her shit, she blames the dad, he tells her to fuck off, the kids spend most of the day with their dad helping out in his store.
This other man just flat out told us that marriage in this day and age "DON'T WORK. PERIOD. Back in the day, if the wife showed any sort of misbehaviour or disrespect, her oldest and the youngest sons would both put her in her fucking place before the husband even lifts a finger. Nowadays, she can just call the police and they'd be on her side. No questions asked. This country is all about women and feminising men."
Now, this isn't nothing new to me or anyone here but I thought I should share this. Those 2 guys may both be MGTOWs and they don't even know it. This tells us that there are more MGTOW outside the internet and that MGTOW isn't something new as a result of feminism. Even during those supposedly "good times" in which women were supposedly submissive and traditionalist, if one man was able to see through their bullshit and go his own way what's to say there aren't more. For ages, many men had to be brainwashed since birth to get married and pressured, shamed and stigmatised if they didn't. Regardless if they actually gained something out of it during those times, marriage had to be conditioned into men so they could not be free to enjoy life as they see fit.
I don't like dwelling on the past. Those days where women hid their true colours and where men were more or less forced to marry and provide are over. Now, no amount of pressure, conditioning, shaming, coaxing, anything, can convince smart men who saw past this bullshit to get sucked into marriage.
tl;dr: my friend's uncle and a friend of his uncle are both very long term MGTOWS and they don't even know it. They mentioned the exact same MGTOW truth and advice we say here every fucking day. Difference is they had no internet to get this info and had to learn it the hard way. There may be many other MGTOWs out there, don't just look at the 19k on this subreddit.
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