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[–]metanfetanina 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Regardless of my mate value society has organized fertility clinics and social welfare programs that will allow me to have children and provide for them should I choose to reproduce without a mate or marriage.

Again, biological "privilege": I am able to have children without any interaction with a man, whereas a man having children without a woman does depend on a woman actually, you know, having the children. I depend only on a male "contribution" which does not have be timely, as sperm can be frozen for a long time and keep viable.

[–]metanfetanina 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can produce offspring. A status which grants me an “essential” status in our species that men can never have and which can never be taken away from me even in old age.

Ooookay, you're talking "biological privilege" here, nothing that can be socially altered, but that will be taken away in "old age" -- if you consider 35 to be old age.

And I'll be perceived by society by my ability to generate offspring, drastically losing any social value as a mate as I approach my 40s, after which age I'll be deemed "dried up" and basically useless, whereas men's social value as a mate only goes up.

[–]metanfetanina 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

If I’m not smart, but pretty, I can marry and achieve the social and financial level of my husband without ever working.

If I'm smart and pretty, most likely society won't see my brains and will simply categorize me as "pretty".

As a housewife/stay-at-home mom, I will never achieve my well-to-do husband's social level and will be perceived as a gold-digger by most everyone, often including my own family and friends.

During formative years and throughout my life, I will not be encouraged to seek intellectual improvement and my every decision will be viewed by society, often including my own friends and family, solely in regards to its potential to attract men.

[–]DefenseOfTheRestRadcel. My incel ideology is the strongest.[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

As a housewife/stay-at-home mom, I will never achieve my well-to-do husband's social level and will be perceived as a gold-digger by most everyone, often including my own family and friends.

The idea that people hate housewives is a ludicrous point of view. Those who are more conservative glorify them, and those who are more liberal tend to respect their life choice. I've never heard of a housewife being perceived as a "gold digger" by their friends or family. Complete nonsense.

During formative years and throughout my life, I will not be encouraged to seek intellectual improvement and my every decision will be viewed by society, often including my own friends and family, solely in regards to its potential to attract men.

The idea that girls in the twenty-first century aren't encouraged to pursue intellectual pursuits is also ludicrous. That would have been true in up till the 1960's, but really can't be said to be true now. There are all kinds of government and other initiatives to try and get girls to go into fields they have traditionally stayed away from.

Having said all this, I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to prove here. I have never denied that male privileges or disadvantages for females exist.

[–]chillenyo 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is the truest post ive ever seen

[–]throwawayC23 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

All if there points are completely stupid and untrue but I'd like to point out number 36 specifically. You're a fucking idiot.

[–]Stagnant_shartDr.Dildo 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't really agree with point 3. If we sent all but a few guys out to war never to return again, that leaves a few guys to heaps of women. The opposite could happen and also be true. Remember, male + female= baby

[–]child_0fwolf 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

OK but are we just going to ignore the fact that a lot of these are based on misogyny? Like the whole "women can dress masculine but men cannot socially dress feminine"... But, you know, just ignore that because "fuck feminazzi bullshit"

[–]TwatmanBeginsOh look a flair 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think that's misogyny. It's not like when a woman wears pants all the men are like 'fuck yeah, I hat women so her dressing manly strokes my ego,' and its also not like women think 'man I hate women so I better dress manly'

[–]DefenseOfTheRestRadcel. My incel ideology is the strongest.[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Even when something hurts men and benefits women, that's really the hatred of women in action!"

t. Dumb Feminist

[–]somedudethatisaguy 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

  1. I am entitled to keep all of my body parts intact. Men are not, since infant circumcision is still practiced in the western world.

[–]xChinky123x -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (4子コメント)

FGM is a thing men seem to completely forget about when convenient.

[–]DefenseOfTheRestRadcel. My incel ideology is the strongest.[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

He said western world. My list is also aimed at the contemporary western world. Now please, check your privilege.

[–]imsorryigotmadatyou -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

you wrote this like you are a fucking women. if you are a women you should check your privilege and go suck cock

[–]DefenseOfTheRestRadcel. My incel ideology is the strongest.[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nothing wrong with being a female. Please don't be a misogynist.

[–]somedudethatisaguy 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was referring to the western world, or more specifically the U.S. where I am. FGM isn't relevant here.

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[–]NormieHunter9000 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

upboat for sticky

[–]Kc1319310 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (5子コメント)

If this is truly how you look at the opposite sex, it is no surprise to me that you can't find an emotionally fulfilling relationship. It's easy to focus on and list all of the advantages women have over men, but you're leaving out how men also have other advantages, sometimes even in the same areas. This victim mentality is delusional and pathetic.

I like the way you ended it though:

It is my right to maintain the belief that men oppress women despite all of the evidence to the contrary.

Reread your post to find "evidence to the contrary".

[–]DefenseOfTheRestRadcel. My incel ideology is the strongest.[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'm sorry that listing the ways that your gender has advantages in society bothers you so much. It would be much productive, however, to redirect that anger and annoyance not at me but at the society that creates these double standards. That way female privileges can be eliminated.

[–]Kc1319310 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Most of society doesn't think the way you do. Your mindset is a coping mechanism you've developed to blame your loneliness on some imagined societal construct rather than your own shortcomings.

[–]DefenseOfTheRestRadcel. My incel ideology is the strongest.[S] -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Society is beginning to increasingly recognize the inherent and unfair advantages that females receive, and a backlash is building. Your time is short.

[–]ukhoneybee 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Half of that list was bullshit. Particularly the financials. What year do you live in, 1950?

[–]DefenseOfTheRestRadcel. My incel ideology is the strongest.[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh, only half? All I've written applies to a certain extent to modern western societies, but I wrote and edited it particularly based off America, because that's where I live.

[–]Oldrocket 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I've found in life if you just simply want something bad enough you actually get it. I thinks it's because the thing you want so badly ends up possessing your every waking thought to the point that you barely are able to focus on anything else. It's as if fate hears you and meets you halfway. Every guy is an incel at some point in there development. I got out of the incel zone when I was younger because I wanted to so badly. I was rejected many times, but I learned from every rejection. I improved and adjusted and honed and tailored my approach until eventually I succeeded. And believe me one trip to poon town, real poon town, not a prostitute, not a mercy bang, I'm talking a girl that just wants you for you, and you'll instantly be like "you know what? Chicks are cool after all, I take it all back"

[–]DefenseOfTheRestRadcel. My incel ideology is the strongest.[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This literally has nothing to with the post whatsoever.

[–]VerySentimental 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Plus the right to camp on the sub, and claim victim status, because it's too "fascinating" to do something else.

[–]throwaway50505013 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Though I am not an incel, this is a very interesting list and I do agree with many of the things on here. To add one (I may have just overlooked it)...

  1. It is much easier for women to seek and accept therapy and mental health services. This is partially because of the stigma that women are allowed and even encouraged to express emotion, while men are not. Many men are told from a very young age that they should not cry or be overly emotional.

This may be the reason why women attempt suicide more than men (possibly as a cry for help or attention) while men are more likely to actually SUCCEED at suicide.

[–]RobertBaggio27 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Madness, yerrr tapped

[–]theratsbrokefree 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (8子コメント)

"At any time I can abandon my parental responsibilities with little or no social stigma and hand the child over to the state or abort the pregnancy." Really? Do you really believe that getting an abortion is easy for a woman, socially or psychologically?

[–]lord_blackfang 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

"This get out of jail free card isn't privilege because I feel guilty about using it" Nice argument, sis.

[–]Kc1319310 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Do you know how many dudes just vanish to never be seen again when they get someone pregnant?

[–]theratsbrokefree 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Guilt aside, abortion is illegal in most of the world. Look it up, bro.

[–]AutismoCircus 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

We aren't talking about "most of the world"

[–]littlemonsteress 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Since when is free IVF a thing?

[–]Throwaway787777 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is a great use of the subreddit. If so many people want to come here to laugh at incels, triggering them with the simple red pills like these is the best way to go.

[–]nuesuh 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I agree with 35-37 of these.

[–]DefenseOfTheRestRadcel. My incel ideology is the strongest.[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pretty good record than.

[–]kazcovicnot an incel and not quite a normie 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I wholeheartedly agree. I have spent a lot of time with a female in the last few months and the privilege she receives from all facets of life is mind boggling.

[–]thedonaldpremed101personalitycel 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This makes my blood boil but it is all true. YOu need to fix number 2 though, they don't even need to be pretty.

[–]thebillstone 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Also known as issues feminists will never address because they desire female privilege - not true gender equality. Men not having reproductive rights is such a fucking travesty.

Another one is the absolute ease of which women can find a romantic partner just by virtue of having a vagina. Then another is the privilege of treating men like garbage with absolute impunity, and if her victim justly retaliates there will be a systemic hugbox of feminists and white knights who will punish the victim.

[–]whtbrd 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

39 It is my right to maintain the belief that men oppress women despite all of the evidence to the contrary. I can blame all my personal failures on the "fact" that we live in a male-dominated society. – Not all of the evidence is to the contrary. And it is everyone’s right to believe whatever they want about whomever. But I will agree with you that popular media pushes this concept, despite a lot of evidence to the contrary. This idea alone is worthy of a lot of very public discussion, and could belong in loads of different sub reddits, from this one, to conspiracies, to shit liberals say. My personal opinion on this goes way down the rabbit hole.

[–]whtbrd 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

20 I have a department of women’s health whereas men have no such department.
21 My gender enjoys more government spending on health issues than males do.
22 My gender consumes the lioness’ share of entitlement programs while men contribute the lion’s share of taxes. – on these items, my opinion is more likely to be of the “limit the gov’t” than the “protect the gender” mentality. That just gets into politics, and ain’t nobody got time for that right now.
23 If I rape or molest a child… To be fair, anyone can sue anyone for anything. But you are correct in your recognition of the absence of justice in this area.
24 When I divorce my husband I will most likely obtain custody of my children unless I am deemed to be extraordinarily unfit. – Less and less accurate. Most likely is that there will be joint custody – equal unless one or the other partner is unfit and usually depends on the past history of who the children have been living with. A man who wants his children, is more likely to have the resources to fight for them.
25 If a man calls me a slut it will probably hurt his reputation more than it hurts mine, but at any rate the damage will be small and localized. However, if I call him a creep it can severely hurt his reputation. – This is 2 parts, the first is true now, but wasn’t 10-15 years ago. The second is not really accurate, imho. An insult flung at an indivudal like that doesn’t really have staying power, except that the person who receives the insult internalizes it and is hurt.
26 I may have the luxury of staying home and being a housewife while a male who does the same thing is likely to be called deadbeat loser and tell her to leave him. – True less and less. A woman who stays at home is almost always raising the children. Before children, and after they are in school, she is usually expected to be working. Even though this is a decision that should only ever be between the partners involved in a couple, you should see the discomfort of the faces of women who say they are stay-at-home moms, and how they feel that they have to justify it to others, even other women.
Similarly, it is amazing how I have attended professional events, in my field, with my husband who is in the same field, and have had my elbow grabbed by men who assume that I am only there as the spouse, and of course I just want to be shown where the other wives are so I can talk about girl things. And thus I am shunted out of the conversation with the other professionals.
27 the rules of “masculine clothing” are not set in stone and are difficult to understand. A t-shirt and jeans is not currently considered “masculine” clothing, but unisex. If a woman wore a man’s cut suit in to work, however, she would most certainly be subject to the same social penalty as a man who wore a woman’s cut suit in to work. Additionally, a fat man in a men’s cut suit has no problem looking like he belongs, whereas a woman’s “professional” clothing options are almost always additionally designed to make her look “sexy”, because that is what society says that all women should be. So a fat woman in a traditionally cut women’s suit looks sloppy or just awful.
28 In good part the standards of “beauty” for men and women are so very disparate. Actually, if a woman doesn’t use make-up, do her hair, etc. – using a lot of time and products which put a serious dent into finances, she is judged and there is social stigma. A man who comes into work in the same suit every day without makeup and with a very short haircut which requires no time and very little maintenance is “professional” whereas a woman who did the same thing would be looked at oddly, told she needed to spend more time on her professional appearance and wardrobe, and considered unprofessional.
29 I can choose my job based on satisfaction, flexibility of hours, and working conditions and then claim that I should make as much as the males working nights, out in the rain and cold or working overtime. – Well, anyone can claim anything, but my experience is that this is not at all accurate.
30 If I abuse my husband and physically assault him and the police arrive it is almost guaranteed he will go to jail. – This is true. And is unacceptable. But I think that society is starting to recognize that domestic violence goes both ways. It’s almost an odd shift from the rule of thumb, which used to be the law that a man could beat his wife if the object he used was no wider than his thumb.
31 If I am in an abusive relationship there are a multitude of social organizations and resources to help me get away from him. There are few if any for men in the same position. – seems accurate. Given that men usually earn more money, and that they are more likely to be the financial earner for a family or couple, that the man would have the financial resources to up and leave more easily. This is probably an unfair situation, though.
32 In the event of a natural disaster or other emergency that requires evacuation I can expect to be evacuated before males. This includes male doctors, humanitarians, politicians, captains of industry, billionaires, and religious leaders. I will receive no social penalty if all of those people died because I was evacuated first. However, should they manage to get evacuated before women and those women died they will all suffer a social penalty. – Although almost always when someone survives a natural disaster like that, they have lost so many of their friends, family, belongings, that they endure survivor’s guilt and are so consumed with grief and financial devastation that whatever imagined “social penalty” you are thinking about here is not even a big deal.
33 I may denounce the concept of a dowry, however, I still expect a man to give me an engagement ring when he asks me to marry him. - A holdover from times when women were property. And is being denounced by feminists as a mark that a woman is owned, whereas a man wears no such mark during the engagement period. Is legally supposed to be a symbol of the contract to wed, so that whoever breaks the contract gives up their claim on the bauble. Most of the couples that I know well (not just people that are acquaintances) had a serious discussion about the rings (both engagement and wedding) and many of them made it a joint purchase, forwent it altogether, or did their very own thing.
Point being, this is a couple’s decision. And while, there are some societal expectations, I think they are sliding, and that when an outsider to a relationship starts to make judgments about who is owed what inside of that relationship, well, it seems likely that the outsider needs to butt right out.
34 Anyone who does nothing, not even call for help, when another person is being assaulted, is deserving of, and frequently the recipient of degradation and insults. Disparate physical strength between the avg. man and avg. woman accounts for some of the difference in expectations of physical response.
Although, this is more traditionally rooted in the extremely restrictive clothing and lifestyle that women/ladies were subjected to that would have made them physically incapable of responding with any effective force… not just in the moment but due to a lifetime of wearing clothes that limited breathing and activity, of being told not to exert themselves beyond walking, of their bodies being drained of their resources by bearing children from approx. the age of 16 or 17 until they died in childbirth, in marriages that they didn’t get to choose, usually to much older men, because they didn’t own themselves and weren’t allowed to own any property so they were basically sold like chattel for alliances, favors, etc. So sure, women get a little lag on not being expected to perform in certain ways in social situations due to tradition, even though the reasons for those traditions have faded. I’m not sure that this one is fair, but I’m not sure it’s one that’s worth declaring as a gross unfair condition.
35 If I’m uncomfortable exercising around men I can demand a female only gym be made for women. If any male only gyms exist I can demand membership under threat of lawsuit. Female safe spaces are viewed as allowable, while male safe spaces are not. – which is ridiculous. Likewise, the idea that the boy scouts should have to include girls is ridiculous. Likewise, the idea that any private organization should not be allowed to restrict its membership to persons who fit a specific description is ridiculous. But in that vein, any group who restricts its membership or participation based on race, or gender, or height, or whatever, (while it should be allowed), should understand that the consequences of doing that (labeled as racist, misogynistic, misandrist, etc.) are likely accurate and deserved.
36 Anyone who is inebriated is incapable of legal consent. Likewise, anyone who does not have full mental capacity (mentally impaired) cannot give consent. So my brother with Down’s syndrome could not legally consent to have sex.
37 A man can get angry and intimidate a woman into doing something she otherwise might not have. And the threat of physical force that might come from an avg. man is much more substantial than the threat of physical force that comes from an avg. woman. There is evidence to suggest that tears are a female’s natural emotion default when under stress and in exactly the same way anger is a man’s natural emotion default. When paired with the standard difference in physical capacity, it is intimidating and the tears triggering a sympathy response in a potentially angry, stronger person seems like a decent balance of powers.
38 People are more likely to view me positively or as more benevolent soley on the basis of my sex. – In the same way, a man is more likely to be viewed as competent, particularly as regards something technical or mechanical. Stereotypes exist in both directions.

[–]xChinky123x 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't know why you're getting downvoted this response needs to be heard

[–]whtbrd 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (13子コメント)

  1. From an early age the opposite sex will be instructed never to hit me but I may not be given the same instructions. However, should I strike males I can expect not to be hit back and any social penalties that occur from my actions will actually fall on the male. – True, but becoming less so. Has to do with the general disparity between the strength of an avg. man and the strength of an avg. woman, and is partly a holdover from times when both men and women were expected to conform to more rigid societal behaviors. If a lady hit a gentleman, there had better be a damn good reason or there would definitely be social repercussions. It was not like the movies.
  2. If I’m not smart, but pretty, I can marry and achieve the social and financial level of my husband without ever working. – Likewise, if a guy is not smart, but is charming, he can easily be placed as a high ranking official or a manager of a company. He will bounce around doing nothing valuable, and as long as he doesn’t actively harm the finances of the company he will never have to worry about job security. A woman in the same shoes? Not likely.
  3. I can produce offspring. A status which grants me an “essential” status in our species that men can never have and which can never be taken away from me even in old age. – although this is balanced by the fact that my value as a person and as a mate is very limited by the time frame in which I am capable of bearing children and being an attractive sexual partner. If I am close to 40 and single, I am no longer generally desirable as a spouse because my fertility and my attractiveness is declining. This is not true of men who are approaching 40.
  4. Regardless of my mate value society has organized fertility clinics and social welfare programs that will allow me to have children and provide for them should I choose to reproduce without a mate or marriage. – My political opinions on social welfare programs of this nature is not likely to be popular here or anywhere else. But basically, if you can’t afford to reproduce, if the actual act of you reproducing is going to place a financial burden on society, then why is money being spent on facilitating that further expense?
  5. I not only have the more valuable and sought after sexual identity, but I also have complete control over my reproductive choice and in many ways over the reproductive choice of the opposite sex. – True. But this is almost universal in the animal kingdom.
  6. At any time I can abandon my parental responsibilities with little or no social stigma and hand the child over to the state or abort the pregnancy. A male could never relieve himself of this burden unless I allow him to. – I do not know where you came up with this one, but a woman who abandons her children is subject to the very worst social stigmas.
  7. When I marry a man with status I can take his name and become whoever he has spent years becoming. I need not do anything special to be worthy of receiving the reputation he has built. However, if I wish to keep my own name I can do so. My male partner will not have the option of taking my last name without being shamed. – Presumably any man who is interested in giving a woman his name has chosen a damn fine woman. But that’s not really any of your business, or mine. Women who don’t take the name of their husbands are still looked at oddly, although only about as oddly as men who take the names of their wives. It is becoming more common. Professionally speaking, though, if you are in a field where your name is important, with publications and such, you might or might not take your husband’s name, but your professional identity will remain the same. I know one couple where both he and she are prominent in their fields, and at events in her field he uses her last name and at events in his field she uses his.
  8. People will help me more when I’m in need and I will receive no social penalty or stigma for it. – Oh, yes, yes we do. Although there is some consideration because women are actually paid less on average and can find it more difficult to get overtime, etc, when a woman can’t get her financial shit together there is definitely judgment and stigma.
  9. When I’m on a date things will be paid for me. – accurate. Also, becoming less accurate. Even when I just started college back in ’03, I would split the cost of at least the first 3 dates, where I would pay for my part and he would pay for his. That way there is no really financial burden on the guy to get to know the girl.
  10. When I search for employment I can choose jobs which I think are fulfilling without concern of whether they provide a “family” wage. – well, anyone can do that. Responsible people of either gender don’t do that. However, if a woman in a partnership is doing this, it is very likely that she is taking the hits on her career by taking off of work when a kid is sick, to meet the plumber, etc, so that the man’s income, the primary income, is unlikely to be affected by the burdens of life. If that’s not the case, then it’s likely that as a couple they haven’t logically strategized and formalized their financial goals and strategy.
  11. I can discriminate against the opposite sex ruthlessly without social penalty. – which is ridiculous, but accurate. But then, how many guys get to denounce women as money hungry cheating bitches that can never be trusted and are only out for a guy who makes more money? They also receive no social penalty for that.
  12. If I marry and quit my job and enjoy a leisurely life with light housework and then later divorce I will be given half of the marital assets. – There was this whole reddit thread on marital assets and divorce, recently. Basically, though, how a married couple arrange their joint assets (time and money), is none of your business. If they jointly decide that she will stay at home and pay the bills, run the errands, take the kids to dr appointments, etc, so that he gets to have the career benefits of never having to take time off of work to meet the plumber, pick up a sick kid from school, or even if it’s just because one of them wants the other one to have dinner on the table when he/she gets home from work, or even if it’s just because they want to have the social status of appearing that they are so well off that only one of them has to work… that’s none of your business. And since afterward the time asset is going to be divided evenly, well, so should the financial assets that have been accruing up to this point.
  13. If I commit a crime and am convicted I will get a sentencing “discount” because of my gender. If I am very pretty it will increase my discount. – How likely is a judge to be a man instead of a woman, I wonder?
  14. If I am a partner in crime with a man I will likely be charged with lesser crimes even though I committed the same crimes even if I was the ringleader. – How many prosecuting attorneys are men vs. women, I wonder?
  15. I have the option to be outraged if my husband asks me if my behavior is due to PMS and later on use PMS as a successful legal defense for murdering that same husband. – well, anyone can get outraged for anything, but I agree that the legal defense bit is ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as a man being legally allowed to kill his wife and the person she’s sleeping with when he walks in on them, whereas the wife was allowed no such legal protection.
  16. At age 18 I will not be forced to register for Selective Service and will not be penalized for failing to do so. – which is ultimately the same as 17, so I’m not sure why it has a separate listing.
  17. At a time of war I will never be drafted and ripped from my employment, home, and family and forced to become a military slave. – Depends on the country, and the time. There was a bill that was bandied about recently that would have included women in the draft. It will likely make a return. But mostly this is for pragmatic reasons: you go to war to protect your population. The females are able to regenerate that population inside of a single generation whereas the males are not.
    Someone has to stay at home and continue the economy. Combat is becoming more intellectual, remote controlled, and less hand-to-hand combat, but it didn’t use to be, and women were at a severe disadvantage there. Military training programs have mastered the concept of re-training the avg. male and his brain: including the physical and psychological components. Yelling at the avg. woman that she’s a shit-eating maggot that doesn’t deserve the badge she’s wearing is more likely to induce tears and sadness, than anger and determination like it’s likely to do for a guy.
  18. I am much less likely to suffer an accident or die while working than a male is. – What exactly does this have to do with the price of beans in china? Gonna need a little correlation / causation here.
  19. My gender controls 80% of domestic spending. I will likely get to spend both my own money and that of my male partner. – Is this because women have the added responsibility of creating a home?
    To do that there is the grocery shopping, the Christmas shopping, the expenses for maintenance, the paying of the bills at the drs office for the kids, the paying of the bills for the utilities, the selection of the odds and ends that make a house a home, the taking the kids shopping for school supplies and clothes, etc. I am not sure that this one is something that women hold over men so much as contributes to the argument that women are still expected to be homemakers in addition to having careers.

[–]NJS331KingCope; Master of Personality and Confidence 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Someone has alot of free time on their hands.

[–]TrueAusgirl99 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Like the person who compiled the entire list in the first instance?

[–]NJS331KingCope; Master of Personality and Confidence 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (7子コメント)

No, like the one who came up with excuses to whatever op wrote. And they didn't even finish all of them. Must that mean that the last half is correct?

[–]TrueAusgirl99 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Lol! So the person with not enough time to finish writing them all has too much time but not the person who wrote them all to start with. I dont even...

[–]NJS331KingCope; Master of Personality and Confidence 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Coming up with excuses takes longer than spewing true facts like the OP did. The person I replied to must've sat there thinking about all those excuses. Lol taking an exam for a class I never took seems far easier than coming up for rebuttals of the facts op wrote.

[–]Lv100_BixNood卍 fascel 卍 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Likewise, if a guy is not smart, but is charming, he can easily be placed as a high ranking official or a manager of a company.

Hahaha, definitely not.

True. But this is almost universal in the animal kingdom.

In the animal kingdom this is balanced by the fact that males can rape. Food for thought.

But then, how many guys get to denounce women as money hungry cheating bitches that can never be trusted and are only out for a guy who makes more money? They also receive no social penalty for that.

Are you for real? The whole outrage against this sub alone is proof of how much of a stigma there is against criticizing women. If a politician made such a statement he would be forced to retire in less than day.

How likely is a judge to be a man instead of a woman, I wonder?

Is that supposed to make the whole thing better?

[–]BananaCuckBeemSad Mentally Retarded Autistic 25M Somalian 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Doesn't matter if the people perpetuating the negative thing are men. It doesn't change that it's a privilege that women have. Anyway tl:dr you grasp at straws and don't make a single decent point. Kys

t. Banana"Cuck"Beem

[–]slukenz 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (18子コメント)

Women can be arrested for assault/battery too, you're already wrong on your first point.

[–]AutismoCircus 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Judges are far more lenient with the sentences tough.

[–]OfSpock 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's actually more complicated than that. They are more lenient on single women but harsher on mothers.

[–]DefenseOfTheRestRadcel. My incel ideology is the strongest.[S] 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (15子コメント)

That's not what the first point says at all. Please read more carefully.

[–]YHallo 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

any social penalties that occur from my actions will actually fall on the male.

That's exactly what you wrote. Any social penalties. Not some. Any.

I suspect the problem lies in your inability to comprehend the phrase "social penalty".

[–]DefenseOfTheRestRadcel. My incel ideology is the strongest.[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think you're confusing "social penalty" with "legal penalty."

[–]YHallo 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh man, I can't believe I forgot that laws and their selective enforcement is somehow separate from society.

Also, you claim that women can abandon their children with no social stigma. Perhaps you don't understand what the word social means? If you could give a quick definition I'm sure that would be very enlightening.

[–]slukenz 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think there's any point in arguing logic with these people

[–]peepeemay 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I am in no way a feminist, please don't think that all of these points apply to all women or affect all women in the same way because it's not true.

[–]MAGA-420Future Wizard 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh ho, all girls get to at least pick 5. Cut it out with the bullshit.

[–]DefenseOfTheRestRadcel. My incel ideology is the strongest.[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Stop being defensive and check your privilege.

[–]emptied_cache_oops 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Check check check it out.

[–]Sabitron 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

what song is that from?

I know it but it doesn't ring up

[–]emptied_cache_oops 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

beastie boys.

but then it should be ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-check it out.

[–]Undvika 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I think both sexes are privileged in different ways. A lot of the "female" privileges are pretty useless to me, so I don't appreciate them since I have no use for some of them.

[–]BananaCuckBeemSad Mentally Retarded Autistic 25M Somalian 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (3子コメント)

All the male "privileges" are useless to me. It doesn't matter to feminists though.

[–]Undvika 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Just as it doesn't matter that some women have no use of these "female" privileges to a lot of you guys.

[–]BananaCuckBeemSad Mentally Retarded Autistic 25M Somalian 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm not following. Anyway forget it. I am legit mentally retarded I should not be debating. I am an idiot.

[–]Undvika 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No you're not! I'm Swedish, and I tend to mess up my English a lot. I'm probably not writing it properly enough. My apologies.

It's essentially always greener on the other side.

You have some "male privileges" that you have no use for, but some women think that you should be grateful and happy about it anyways.

I have some "female privileges" that I have no use for, but some men think that I should be grateful and happy about it anyways.

[–]iamhopeless256My only regret in life is that I'm not someone else 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

True

[–]SwordOfIncels 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Women aren't oppressed. If I had the opportunity to, I'd sacrifice half my years on Earth just to be a modern day woman. To even compare their experience to the decades long hatred blacks, gays, and others received just further shows the princess treatment every (non-ugly) woman receives every day of her life.

[–]yobsmezn 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Transition. You can become a woman and see how it goes.

Spoiler: surprises ahead.

[–]SwordOfIncels 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The surprises would be from being trans, not because I'm a woman. Trans people are on the bottom of the totem pole, not women. Do you guys even think before typing?

[–]yobsmezn 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't worry yourself over it. Sometimes the obvious is too obvious. I get that.

[–]chillybot 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Srsly though, i always thougjt it was so strange that you just gotta SAVE THE WOMEN AND CHILDREN. Such angels arent they. Shes probably fucking the paramedic who rescued her as well.

[–]xChinky123x 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What is this, the 1940s?

[–]GorePunkSpideyAn Aspiring Misogynist 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

While we're drowning while the ship is sinking because, you know, "male privilege".

[–]chillybot 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This would be an insta ban on r/niceguys

Defending female privilege is no different than defending rich privilege and the three tier justice system.

[–]yobsmezn 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (26子コメント)

At some point you're not alone because women treat you badly. You're alone because your misogynistic rage frightens them.

[–]DefenseOfTheRestRadcel. My incel ideology is the strongest.[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (24子コメント)

There's nothing misogynistic or angry in recognizing ways that women are advantaged in society.

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    [–]DefenseOfTheRestRadcel. My incel ideology is the strongest.[S] 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Sorry you get so triggered over someone exposing female privilege. And enjoy your ban!

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      [–]DefenseOfTheRestRadcel. My incel ideology is the strongest.[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      Breaking the rules of the subreddit.

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        [–]azavii[M] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Rule #1.

        [–]thebillstone 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

        Wow, negative three votes? The lefties really have infiltrated this sub, but at least they can't report and ban those dissenters like they normally do in their home subs. Their only power is to downvote and try to argue with ridiculous straw man's.

        [–]NJS331KingCope; Master of Personality and Confidence -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        What do you have against left handed people. Lol, wana get south pawed by an incel?

        [–]DefenseOfTheRestRadcel. My incel ideology is the strongest.[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        They really resent the idea that women might have any advantages. We get a lot of feminist types in here, so that's where that comes from.

        [–]yobsmezn 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (9子コメント)

        That's entirely true. This list, however, is a litany of self-pitying fury against women. It's not based in reality.

        It overlooks the mechanisms behind things, for example. Why do we especially stigmatize men hitting women? Becaue men historically beat the shit out of women. And it's not just a gender thing. We don't hit people who are smaller than us. Many women are smaller than men, so they fall into that category. But more fundamentally than that, why do you want the right to hit women? Because that's what this argument is for. The right to strike women.

        Or this: "When I [woman] search for employment I can choose jobs which I think are fulfilling without concern of whether they provide a “family” wage."

        The fulfilling aspect is total fantasy so we can dismiss it. There's no evidence that women seek or receive more fulfilling jobs than men.

        So what you're left with is a bizarre inversion of the fact that women are paid less than men and are traditionally steered into less lucrative jobs. Many millions of women in the US alone are working their asses off at two or three of those crappy jobs in order to provide for their families. The fact that they still often can't make ends meet indicates there's something wrong with the employment picture, not that women are slackers.

        The idea that women categorically mope around and don't make enough to keep their children alive on purpose is pure misogyny.

        I could go on down through the list, but that's enough. When self pity gets toxic and finds a target in an entire class of people, these lists start to propagate. Black people, Jews, women, queer folk -- the target is whomever the depressed person feels is responsible for their unhappiness. It's not real. It's just a stack of poisonous interpretations seen through a completely subjective lens.

        edit: word

        [–]DefenseOfTheRestRadcel. My incel ideology is the strongest.[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (7子コメント)

        An extremely disingenuous response from you, though I can't say I'm surpsised. I'll address both your major points.

        1: You just want to hit women!

        No, please read that point again more closely:

        From an early age the opposite sex will be instructed never to hit me but I may not be given the same instructions. However, should I strike males I can expect not to be hit back and any social penalties that occur from my actions will actually fall on the male.

        This is talking about how women aren't raised to not hit men and how men can't ever hit a woman even in cases of self-defense. It's not a call for men to be able to hit women whenever they want, and for you to represent it as such is ridiculous. The easiest way to resolve this privilege is simply to teach women not to hit men. Of course, you justify female on male violence by citing historical precedent and size differences, so perhaps you don't think this privilege is very important.

        2: Women less concerned about "family wages"

        This is simply talking about how women have to worry less about fulfilling the main family support role, and so can pick jobs based off different criteria, such as fulfillment. This isn't a "total fantasy," but an objective fact, as numerous studies have shown. Quoting from this study on different job preferences between men and women:

        In contrast, across all age groups, women were generally more likely than men to assign top rank to having work that provides them with a sense of accomplishment.

        The same study shows that men tend to rate a jobs income as being more important than women do. Only in old age do the gender differences somewhat mellow out, which not coincidentally is also the age when children are likely to be all grown. To deny these facts, as you have done, is to deny the best available scientific evidence.

        [–]yobsmezn 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (6子コメント)

        Where do you find that "women aren't raised to not hit men"? This again is pure fantasy. A woman who hits a man is no more socially acceptable than a man who hits a woman. There are often more consequences attached to men hitting women, certainly, but this is because men hit women a lot more often, and often a lot harder.

        Key grafs in that study you linked:

        1. Men are more likely to assign top rank to the job characteristics of high income, job security, and promotion opportunities than women, whereas women are more likely to assign top rank to meaningful content and short hours.

        2. Gender differences in job attribute preferences will narrow with age. As career trajectories become more settled, men are likely to place greater value on intrinsic rewards and less emphasis on obtaining high income and promotions, whereas women are likely to become increasingly concerned with job security as they grow older.

        3. Gender differences in job attribute preferences will also narrow over time, across all age groups, partly as a result of the increasing similarity in men's and women's patterns of labor force participation over the past two decades, and partly as a result of general changes in gender role ideologies that have accompanied the changes in patterns of participation.

        So in short, young women would prefer to have fulfilling work over high-paying work. That effect fades over time. But what does the list of 'privileges' assert?

        When I search for employment I can choose jobs which I think are fulfilling without concern of whether they provide a “family” wage.

        That's completely unsupported by that study or any other evidence. It makes a gigantic leap from 'In a hypothetical situation I'd rather have a meaningful job that pays less than a meaningless job that pays more" ... to an assertion that women say "I can choose jobs which I think are fulfilling without concern of whether they provide a “family” wage."

        If you can't see the difference, you've got work to do.

        [–]lemonfighterEx-FA normie 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

        A woman who hits a man is no more socially acceptable than a man who hits a woman.

        This is absolutely not true and you know it.

        [–]yobsmezn -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        What stake do you have in the matter? Why are you so determined to be wronged in all these ways?

        [–]lemonfighterEx-FA normie 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        All what ways? I called you out on one specific point. My stake is that this is an internet forum and I am participating in the discussion.

        [–]DefenseOfTheRestRadcel. My incel ideology is the strongest.[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

        A woman who hits a man is no more socially acceptable than a man who hits a woman.

        I just can't imagine where I would have gotten that perception from. No idea.

        The irony of your claim here is that, after saying there's no difference in social perceptions of female and male violence, you go on to admit there are different consequences, which you justify again due to historical precedent and size difference.

        No self-awareness whatsoever. You're the reason why women think they can get away with hitting men.

        So in short, young women would prefer to have fulfilling work over high-paying work. That effect fades over time. But what does the list of 'privileges' assert?

        So in other words you're admitting that your first claim here was wrong:

        The fulfilling aspect is total fantasy so we can dismiss it. There's no evidence that women seek or receive more fulfilling jobs than men.

        Unless you're going to try and argue that women's preferences don't affect their job-seeking behavior.

        That's completely unsupported by that study or any other evidence. It makes a gigantic leap from 'In a hypothetical situation I'd rather have a meaningful job that pays less than a meaningless job that pays more" ... to an assertion that women say "I can choose jobs which I think are fulfilling without concern of whether they provide a “family” wage."

        The reason women can take these jobs more often is because men are more likely to be stuck in the provider role in the family, as I already mentioned. I don't have to pull out stats to prove that, do I?

        [–]yobsmezn 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Yeah, this is like shouting down a well. You be you.

        [–]DefenseOfTheRestRadcel. My incel ideology is the strongest.[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Lol.

        [–]ciderlout 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (3子コメント)

        But you recognise the ways that men are advantaged too, yes? And that, with empathy, one can recognise that women were, for most of human existence, in general, politically, economically, and sexually marginalised. This being the case, it seems incredibly churlish to focus on this, rather than, say, the increasing wealth divide in society, the rise of autocracies in the world or the looming climate crisis?

        In fact it sometimes seems like this sort of sub is trying to redirect the anger of passionate people who believe in social justice away from the more important concerns and towards something that keeps them away from women - something that will help remove this level of passionate anger out of the gene pool.

        [–]Lv100_BixNood卍 fascel 卍 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        one can recognise that women were, for most of human existence, in general, politically, economically, and sexually marginalised.

        Bullshit.

        [–]DefenseOfTheRestRadcel. My incel ideology is the strongest.[S] -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        No, sorry. Wanting to eliminate female privilege is a necessary, important, and just cause. Therefore it makes perfect sense for us incels to use our "passion" to create a better and more equal society by eliminating them.

        I hope you will join us and not impede our path just because you find gender equality "churlish." But if you don't want to, well, you can't make an omelet without cracking a few eggs.

        [–]BananaCuckBeemSad Mentally Retarded Autistic 25M Somalian 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        How are men privileged?

        [–]TimRattayGotScrewed 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Well, I guess I'm not at that point yet, because a woman has never been frightened by me in my life.

        Maybe it's because I look like a teenager and women being "frightened" is actually solely dependent on looks.

        [–]aspergerboy20 yo KHHV 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Sticky this one

        [–]AgxanteLDA1919BrokenIndigoCrayons Ghost 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Somebody give gold to this guy!!!

        [–]NJS331KingCope; Master of Personality and Confidence 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Sticky please!!!! 👌👌👌👌

        [–]StagetailCuck 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Brilliant. You fucking rekt these feminazi sluts.

        [–]PM_ME_STRIPPERScreepy tall socially awkward KHV 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (4子コメント)

        This is actually a really good post as it points out a lot of the hypocrisy of society and its laws/ rules that are put upon males and females (obviously females being treated much better).

        However i think in some of the checklist points you probably have written a few things a bit too extreme but like i said its a good post overall.

        If I marry and quit my job and enjoy a leisurely life with light housework and then later divorce I will be given half of the marital assets.

        Not just that. In the country i live in ( and no its not a developing country) a woman only has to live with you for 6 months ( dont have to be married) to claim half of everything you own, not just assets! How bs is that! Working your ass off every day, you finally think you have found a nice gf but boom 6 months on it doesnt work out and there goes ur savings!

        And before any normies tries to refute my post, yes you can get a "pre nup" or similar document to stop that from happening but who gets a pre nup at 6 months in a relationship!!!!

        Edit - i remembered what the document that was similar to that of a "pre nup", its a financial agreement but my point still stands... not many people would even bother with that even 6 months in...

        [–]ciderlout 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        But! Men can do the same, right? So it is not unfair. Just don't get married to an asshole.

        [–]StagetailCuck 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

        wtf? where do you live?

        [–]PM_ME_STRIPPERScreepy tall socially awkward KHV 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Australia. If you dont believe me look it up yourself.

        Search like "asset protection in de facto relationships australia"

        Basically if you dont have a financial agreement your stuffed.

        But obviously it depends on the type of person you are dating.. most wont bother trying to claim half of what you owe but theres some evil people out there and i wouldnt put it past them! Anything for an extra buck ( or several thousand bucks)

        [–]thebillstone 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Australia is probably more extreme in feminism than Canada. It is the home of the misandric White Ribbon campaign, and recently feminists censored a premiere of The Red Pill film. I think it has also banned people for being enemies of the feminist left such as a few pickup artists. It is funny because Trump would also be banned from that shithole PC country.

        Thanks to Trump, hopefully America will be a very hostile place to feminists. Let's stop funding to Planned Parenthood,destroy VAWA and The Lilly Ledbetter Act! Let's invade the UK, Australia, and Canada and give them no voting rights as they're overrun with disgusting leftists.

        [–]Lv100_BixNood卍 fascel 卍 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (33子コメント)

        Some more:

        • When applying for a job, I enjoy preferential treatment over men with similar qualifications
        • I can run an election campaign on the sole basis that I'm a woman
        • I live on average over 5 years longer than men
        • In a debate I can shut up a man simply by claiming he is misogynistic

        [–]PM_ME_STRIPPERScreepy tall socially awkward KHV 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I can run an election campaign on the sole basis that I'm a woman

        ..."And use the gender card by saying im a woman vote for me if you dont vote for me then you are a misogynist and dont support equal pay, feminizicrapsm"!!!

        In a debate I can shut up a man simply by claiming he is misogynistic

        agreed, then if you call out a woman whos spouting hatred and calling you names as a misandrist, people will bombard you with why "she isnt being a misandrist xDDDD".