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Congress is not Mexico, Don. Also building a wall would be a waste of money that would benefit nobody.
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hold on a minute, wasn't Mexico supposed to bankroll this
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what fucking phony, defenestrate him
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i thought things were squared with vicente fox?
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yeah cant wait for a useless wall
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broken promise, check.
someone on the CNN news panel made the interesting fact that we may have a situation where the DEMS look to shut down the government (similiar to REPS) over a potential spending bill for the border wall.
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sometimes we don't put walls up to keep others out
but to see who cares enough to knock them down :(
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Technically if he puts a tariff on Mexican exports into the US, then in theory, they would be paying into the wall through either those companies paying that tariff, or the loss of deals US companies have with Mexico.
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Build a wall around Congress.
Finally a bipartisan effort the country can unite over.
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"technically"
it's bullshit dude
I know there's always going to be someone to say "Trumps awesome" but this is flat out bullshit to try and "defend".
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It is why I said "technically", if they introduce tariffs on Mexican made goods by American companies, making those positions in Mexico untenable, then they are actually making Mexico pay for it without making them pay for it. I'm not saying this is good or anything, or defending Trump, but this is probably how it will be spun in the future.
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If anything he's just arguing semantics, and he doesn't even state his opinion over it. I don't see how you can interpret his post as "Trumps awesome" or a "defense." The eagerness to label people as Trump supporters reminds me of the Salem Witch Hunts honestly.
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the wall situation is so funny to me. it's funny that building a colossal border wall across 2,000 miles was even entertained in politics, it's hilarious that it continues to get so much flak and attention. trump shoulda kept this an empty promise.
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I'm expecting this to be about as successful, and ungodly more expensive than Australia's rabbit proof fence. It covers roughly the same amount of ground(if you include all of the fences) and accomplished absolutely nothing.
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Better detail into the situation by Politico is cited in the CNN article. Might throw this in the OP for lazies. Interesting stuff.
Didn't hear about this fact before. I can assume the past failure(?) of virtual fencing will be used as an argumentative point in collecting the budget. That is, of course, if it actually goes through in any conceivable way. Which is highly unlikely.
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It's HumanAbyss. Everything is an attack against him personally.
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Is he REALLY gonna build this wall? Fucking hell, I presented a goddamn speech in college on why Trump's choices will never work. Too much money to build, let alone maintain, too many workers for so little money on the BORDER(which is a desert compared to the people who worked on the Statue of Liberty). Not mention by the time its done we would have had two more president elects already. Most immigrants cross the border by planes anyway.
"But he's gonna build a metaphorical wall!" Yeah, okay. Say goodbye to potential new workers in this economy America.
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Mexico was never going to directly finance anything.
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Oh well thanks I didn't think it was about me what so ever but thanks
Fucking tired of this shit I'm not even pretending to be important or acting like it's about me at all until you fucking name drop me
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The fact that this idea is even being thought about seriously as something we'll have to foot the bill for is giving me a aneurysm. Even if this is just rhetoric it's still dumb as all hell.
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Like you namedrop people who disagree with you through ratings? You're just needlessly confrontational, man. You gotta chill.
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The wall is factually a bad idea
There is no reason for it to exist, it doesn't create border security or any of the other rhetoric. It's a literal money dump. Defending it in anyway shape or form is acting like it has a reason to exist, it doesn't. It's pure bluster.
I'm not witch hunting fucking anyone. I'm saying "technically or not, it's a bad fucking idea" but I guess it's Trumps idea, so as much as speaking ill of it is just too much or something? I'm not going after him as a "Trump supporter" because he said anything of that nature.
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I would be far, far "Chiller" if you people would stop doing this and acting like you somehow have a "high ground" to talk down to me as if I was doing anything different from you.
This is "Needlessly" confrontational, to act like every time I post, it's "about me". No. I didn't make anything there about "me".
I made it entirely about the issue that the wall is a bad idea technically or not.
It's bullshit. If "Bullshit" is too strong of a word to be allowed to be used here now in this context, that's fucking news to me dude.
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Take it into PM's fellas.
With the cult of personality that Trump has, I won't be surprised if the entire Wall debacle is quickly swept under the rug. I know a man personally who has demonstrated with various BUILD THE WALL signs recently tell me about the metaphorical aspect of it.
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That'll make me even happier
fuck up our economy to get a useless expensive wall.
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He wasn't even defending it, but discussing what would be a hypothetical route if it ever happened.
I called you out once, not every time you post. I feel like you're just proving my point here.
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That's the issue though, I don't think either him nor me has said anything about it being a bad or good idea. He's just entertaining the possibility of a shifting of blame, where Trump actually half-fulfills his campaign promise. You are too emotionally invested in this Abyss, detach and take a breather.
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You are not the only person to do this. I did not say "You", I said "You people".
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Okay. If multiple people are saying the same thing, I would probably agree with Kirad.
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Don't tell Trump supporters that.
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Alright, there's nothing I can say then.
I'm not emotionally attached to the subject. My initial post wasn't lambasting, witch hunting, or going after anyone. It was calling it a bad idea. I got "Emotional" when you decided to say something that's relatively insulting to read. That's where my "attachement" would come from. Before that post of yours, I was actually calm, regardless of what either of you think, I was calm when I wrote that reply to boilrig, I wasn't even declaring him as "defending" it, because I put the word Defend in scare quotes.
I really don't know how to get my points across to anyone here anymore. When someone else here is mad, and expresses that, no one cares. But shit, Humanabyss said something is "bullshit"? Oh damn, he's making the whole thread about him!
As calm as I am doing my best to be, I am annoyed. But it was never with "Trump" or "Trump supporters" in this thread.
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It's not the words you use themselves, it's the context of them. Written languages, especially English, have hard times getting across tone and mood, so we inference these with diction and syntax.
Truly the only egregious part of your first post is your "I know there's always going to be someone to say "Trumps awesome" but this is flat out bullshit to try and "defend"." at the end. By saying this after directly replying to Boilrig, it appears that you are including Boilrig within the group of people trying to defend Trump, when that just isn't what he's doing. He's only presenting a hypothetical situation with no opinion attached.
Then, in your next post replying to Boilrig's, the first line is "The wall is factually a bad idea," which isn't wrong, it's just a non sequitur. He wasn't arguing whether the wall was a good idea or not. He was simply imagining a technicality.
Nothing is wrong with your arguments, you're just applying them to the wrong people/discussions.
And this post especially shows that you are too emotionally attached: Yes, he name dropped you. Yes, he was saying negative things about you and personally insulted you, but this just isn't the place for it. Take that up with him personally in PMs. To do it here makes you both seem like you want an audience.
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Kirad said it better. I'm sorry if I upset you, feel free to discuss further over PM.
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It's been awhile since I've seen an avatar match a post so well
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thank you.