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White high school football players in Idaho charged with raping black, disabled teammate with a coat hanger (washingtonpost.com)

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[–]rounder55 351 ポイント352 ポイント  (85子コメント)

I always find myself even more horrified when multiple people are involved in something this sadistic. That means that one person thought this was worth doing and figured his friends would do it to, which they did. Sickening

[–]bjacks12 171 ポイント172 ポイント  (42子コメント)

I'm more sickened(but not at all surprised) at the ADULTS in the school who were 100% OK with this.

I grew up in a small town. The only thing I don't miss is the school system. If you come from a connected family or you're good at sports, you can do whatever the fuck you want and you'll be covered for by the coaches/teachers/principal, etc.

Boys will be boys. /s

EDIT: added an /s for those who don't get sarcasm.

[–]MerkinDealer 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My high school had a really similar situation (sharpies instead of a coat hanger). Almost all of the teachers and students blamed the victim for going to authorities and "getting" the aggressors suspended. He had to move.

[–][deleted] 116 ポイント117 ポイント  (14子コメント)

We let student athletes get away with whatever they want in high school and college and suddenly we're somehow surprised when we find professional athletes betting on dogfights or beating their wives.

[–]inoperableheart 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Or say shoving their testicles on someone else's face because they don't want to go out with them.

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    [–]Kasper-X-Hauser 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (13子コメント)

    Raping other students with coat hangers does not fall under the category of "being boys".

    But your point about the adults' responsibility is on target.

    CORRECTION--I missed that the previous poster was being sarcastic. My bad.

    [–]bjacks12 50 ポイント51 ポイント  (6子コメント)

    I was making that remark cynically.

    In no way do I believe what they did is justified or a normal part of boyhood. I'm glad they face potential life sentences.

    [–]Kasper-X-Hauser 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    OK. Did not get that, Thx. for the clariffication.

    [–]FizzleMateriel 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    In fact if I remember correctly there was a similar recent case where a bunch of high school boys sodomized another boy with a pool cue and tore his intestinal tract. The school and the community then just made the excuse that it was just boys being boys and no harm was meant. It's mind boggling and horrifying, but there are people who really see nothing wrong with this type of behavior as long as their kid wasn't the one who was violated.

    [–]Kasper-X-Hauser 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Actually it was in my home town where it happened. (The team was not from there, but was in town for a game).

    The ONLY reason charges were brought in that case was because the team wasn't at home when the assault happened.

    [–]Galaxy_Ranger_Bob 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    In no way do I believe what they did is justified or a normal part of boyhood.

    The problem is that there are too many adults in that community who do.

    [–]bjacks12 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    That's what I was condemning in my original comment

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      [–]AnalTuesdays 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Adults are always at fault. They indirectly give tacit permission for all kinds of behavior.

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        [–]zbufferz 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (6子コメント)

        Then you must be horrified a lot:

        NEW JERSEY - 2015 - "Penn State Drops Recruitment Of Player From High School Team Caught In Hazing Scandal"

        "Seven players on the Sayreville, New Jersey team have been linked to the alleged hazing of four students over a span of 10 days in September. One incident allegedly involved anal sexual attacks, NJ.com reported. "

        PHILADELPHIA - 2016 - "Conestoga High football players charged in 'No Gay Thursday' assault"

        "Three senior football players, including a team captain, allegedly penetrated another player with a broomstick after he refused to help other underclassmen clean the team locker room while wearing just their underwear, Chester County District Attorney Thomas Hogan announced Friday."

        SEATTLE - 2015 - "Judge: Assault with broomstick part of football hazing culture at Juanita High"

        "The text message from a Juanita High School football player to his freshman teammate was ominous. They were “gonna jubie” an 18-year-old special-needs student in the locker-room showers. Within minutes, what the term meant became all too clear. The 18-year-old, a volunteer manager with the football team, was being held on the shower floor by a group of 14- and 15-year-old players, his pants and underwear yanked down as he was jabbed at with a broomstick."

        "Similar stories about hazing in high-school football programs have surfaced nationwide. Criminal investigations, some resulting in charges, were launched after broomstick-hazing at schools in Long Island, N.Y., in 2004, New Mexico in 2008, Vermont in 2011 and 2012, South Carolina in 2013 and New Jersey last year."

        SOUTH CAROLINA - 2015 - "Hefty suspensions handed down in Parkview baseball hazing case"

        "Several members of the “Panthers Summer Baseball Team” — a travel squad comprised of many Parkview High players but run by the parent-led Parkview Dugout Club — were allegedly at the hotel following a tournament when six upperclassmen began “wrestling” with and sexually assaulting younger players."

        VERMONT - 2014 - "Broom stick, pool cue assaults alleged in hazing ritual"

        "As part of initiations into a high school football team, players sexually assaulted younger teens with broom sticks or pool cues, according to court records made public when five former athletes were charged with related crimes."

        This is what I found in 3 minutes on a google search of ("high school" football team hazing|rape|"sexual assault") followed by a randomly selected American city. Every city I tried had at least one recent story from the last 2 years involving anal penetration and/or sexual assault as part of a hazing. Pick your own city and be horrified.

        There is something very wrong with homophobia and high school team sports in the US. It's isn't rare, it isn't "boys will be boys". It's rape.

        Please upvote this comment so this epidemic gets more attention. Thanks.

        [–]Damn_Dog_Inappropes 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (27子コメント)

        Young people are swayed by peer pressure and the invisible audience. They also have poor impulse control, which explains why groups of teens get up to no good.

        [–]kegman83 62 ポイント63 ポイント  (18子コメント)

        I dunno man, all my friends did was steal liquor from the grocery store in groups. We never raped anyone with a wire coathanger. I'd like to think I'd probably put a stop to that.

        [–]PowerSystemsGuy 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

        In high school? I would have walked away and not said anything. Called up a friend from a different group to go get a milkshake so that when the cops asked, I could say, "No I wasn't involved, I was with _____ getting McDonalds"

        In college, I would have stepped in and said, "Hey guys, let's not do this"

        Today I'd be like, "Guys, stop now. If you don't I'll call the cops"

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          [–]Klownzillla 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Except this group of people are shitty and sadistic individuals.

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              [–]ItsMinnieYall 314 ポイント315 ポイント  (115子コメント)

              "As the teammate restrained the boy, another football player allegedly thrust a coat hanger into the boy’s rectum. Then a third teammate kicked the coat hanger several times, according to a criminal complaint."

              Wtf is wrong with people?

              [–]VeronicaNew 236 ポイント237 ポイント  (60子コメント)

              And the ringleader....“Mr. Howard is a relative of prominent individuals in the community and, at least in part due to his athletic ability and community connections, the Defendants ignored or were deliberately indifferent to the behavior of Mr. Howard which included aggression, taunting and bullying of The Plaintiff and other students in the District. With deliberate indifference, the Defendants did nothing to curb the vicious acts of Mr. Howard who brought with him from Texas a culture of racial hatred towards the Plaintiff.”

              The school and community turned a blind eye. Sick.

              [–]Jkid 108 ポイント109 ポイント  (20子コメント)

              Jail them all.

              [–]Damn_Dog_Inappropes 141 ポイント142 ポイント  (15子コメント)

              Especially that coach. Teachers are mandatory reporters, and he was an instigator, instead.

              [–]genomeAnarchist 58 ポイント59 ポイント  (14子コメント)

              I have yet to meet a high school football coach with a spine. It's never about the school, the community, or the other students. Their final decision always comes down to the team and winning. How often do we hear about some high school football player/s doing something so morally-reprehensible that a whole group can unanimously agree that they need to be held accountable in a significant way? And how often do we hear that they got a free pass because they mean so much to the school spirit and the motivation driving the student body?

              High school football is basically Peewee Police Academy. There is a level of protection granted to these specific students and just like any other structure lacking accountability, they learn to abuse that protection.

              [–]Kasper-X-Hauser 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I have. I have known coaches that did the right thing, even if it hurt the team.

              Not all of them, surely....maybe not most....but some.

              [–]Sysiphuslove 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (4子コメント)

              Hmm. I wonder what would happen if we dropped the athletic shit from education and separated it into its own pastime. Does it really need to be such a ludicrously, senselessly important part of 'educational' success for any reason other than money?

              As an appendix question, is there any noble venture the pursuit or cultivation of money can't ruin?

              [–]lumloon 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              The Europeans do that - the sports clubs are municipal and separate from schools.

              In the U.S. sports developed as part of school teams. See http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/10/the-case-against-high-school-sports/309447/

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                    [–]zoso1969 61 ポイント62 ポイント  (30子コメント)

                    who brought with him from Texas a culture of racial hatred

                    Am I the only one who reads that as being a totally fucked up thing to say?

                    [–]HRPaperStacks 77 ポイント78 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                    I was going to write a thoughtful reply to your comment but I live in Houston and I'm late for a lynching

                    [–]Lord_Shitlord 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    I thought the same thing. It's not like Idaho doesn't already have white supremacist survivalists roaming around in the northern part of the state.

                    [–][deleted] 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (12子コメント)

                    The kid moved to Idaho from Texas and became the ringleader of a hate crime -- I don't know what you expected.

                    The boy, one of the few black students at Dietrich let alone his football team, was subjected to frequent abuse by Howard and his fellow teammates, including “aggressive ‘humping’, jumping on him from the back and simulating anal sex,” according to the suit. His fellow football players allegedly gave him painful wedgies, stripped him of his clothes and took naked photos of him in the locker-room. One student drew a picture of the boy sitting in the back of the bus on a classroom chalkboard.

                    The kid was a racist and learned it growing up in Texas. It happens. Texas should really confront that issue, and stop trying to pretend it doesn't exist.

                    [–]onyxthekitty 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                    Texas is almost irrelevant in the matter, racism and hate is bread in children all over the world and in every state. Whether it's Texas or California, (Lakeside for example) there are pockets of severely poverty stricken white families who channel their frustrations about the failing economy into their grandfathered in traditions of hate against other cultures. It's a classic tradition in the United states, for as long as the country has been alive. Even longer in other places.

                    [–]mclemons67 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    pockets of severely poverty stricken white families

                    Oh dear, you think this is restricted to white trash? Who do you think can afford white flight and gated communities?

                    [–]zoso1969 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                    My point is it doesn't matter if he's from Texas, New York or Mars. Yes, he's a racist, and yes he learned it growing up. He just happened to grow up in Texas. The way it's written, it gives the impression that everyone from Texas is automatically racist and is a very sweeping generalization.

                    No, I'm not an overly sensitive Texan.

                    [–][deleted] 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    The way it's written, it gives the impression that everyone from Texas is automatically racist and is a very sweeping generalization.

                    But let's be honest, this is the state that threatened to secede from the Union when we got a black president.

                    [–]illstealurcandy 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Also the state that revolted against Mexico in order to keep their slaves.

                    Still fucked up though.

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                      [–]yortuk 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      What about the teachers and coaches who encouraged him? Did he bring them from Texas, too?

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                        [–]sievurt 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                        Seriously wtf? I grew up in the Texas school system and the people are mostly really nice.

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                          [–]Y_Me 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                          relative of prominent individuals in the community

                          Yeah, the prominent crowd here are Mormons. The majority of that town are LDS and this particular kids family are not. That was a major contributor to them attempting to cover it up. I have a family member who works with folks from this town and they say it's not a surprise that it when on like that because nobody wanted to embarrass those "prominent" individuals.

                          To be clear, I am not blaming the religion, just the small town culture that is often a result from this particular religion. Ask anyone who grew up in small town Idaho not an LDS member and see if they were aware of these culture issues.

                          [–]ThrowawayfromIdaho 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          Correction: This Family is actually very much LDS. This was not about the Mormon vs Non-Mormon.

                          Also in Dietrich it's more about not embarrassing the town than the families, it's very strange there.

                          Source: I know them and live about 10 miles from the town. Also a non-mormon so can attest to the other things you say, however on this point, you are wrong.

                          [–]Y_Me 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Thank you for clearing that up. I hear a lot going around. Explains how the cover up is the attitude of not protecting the victim but protecting everyone else first. Anywho, yeah, these small towns can be so crazy.

                          [–]VeronicaNew 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Ahhh, interesting. That certainly puts this in clearer context.

                          [–]oki1977 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          And to think coaches were involved and even encouraged hostility towards this young man. Get a rope..

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                            [–]coralsnake 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                            Dunno, but the story is replete with references to the continued abuse of the kid in front of the "coaches," presumably adults. What kind of adult encourages this?

                            [–][deleted] 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Ones that went through hazing when they were younger and determine it's normal and acceptable probably. Or who want to win and succeed and will ignore bad things about people who help further their goals

                            [–]Damn_Dog_Inappropes 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Racist adults.

                            [–]jp599 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            What kind of adult encourages this?

                            The kind of adult that should be going to prison.

                            [–]Galaxy_Ranger_Bob 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            The kind of adult who has the same problem with the victim as the students do.

                            Bullying takes place because adults let it happen, usually because the victim is perceived as an "outsider," by the adults, who pass on their attitude to the students under their control.

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                              [–]ghostfox1_gfaqs 68 ポイント69 ポイント  (24子コメント)

                              A large portion of the population is fucking retarded. Groups that enforce a high in group/out group difference are the worst.

                              I say do unto them as they did unto others.

                              edit: that last part isn't to be taken as something I hope really happens. I just will feel much less bad about it

                              [–]random_redditor19[S] 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (22子コメント)

                              You better believe Howard himself will soon experience "forcible penetration by use of force or a foreign object" behind bars.

                              [–]ghostfox1_gfaqs 88 ポイント89 ポイント  (19子コメント)

                              I sincerely hope it doesn't happen. Prison rape is still wrong. I'll just feel less bad if it does happen to these people than others.

                              [–]Yama_Roo 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (13子コメント)

                              This is the mature response. You want people to be able to learn lessons without going through it the hard way. The only reason we want it done back to them is revenge, but that doesn't guarantee anyone will learn a lesson. It satisfies the mob. It doesn't help the victim nor rehabilitate the perpetrators.

                              [–]HughGWrecktion 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              I agree, on the other hand. I would really struggle to feel bad for them if it happened to them in prison, I wouldn't be happy but not sad either.

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                                      [–]gym00p 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      Very disturbing. Those kids need to be locked up for a long, long time for this.

                                      [–][deleted] 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                      It's a prank bro! Why are so many people breaking one of the basic rules? Don't do something to someone that you wouldn't want them to do to you.

                                      [–]Aquaman5000 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                      Maybe the 3 guys that did this like have coat hangers shoved up their ass. People have weird kinks.

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                                        [–]fatladysings7 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        He thought he was getting a hug. That kills me. Jesus Christ.

                                        [–]Sysiphuslove 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        Stupid fucking jocks getting together and egging each other on

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                                          [–]daddaman1 89 ポイント90 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                          Coaches and administrators knew about the ongoing abuse towards the boy!? What a fucked up bunch of adults! $10m is more than fair!

                                          [–]VeronicaNew 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                          This is heartbreaking and infuriating. I hope these sadistic fucks get locked up without mercy, and the school district pays for allowing such a horrifying environment of bullying, brutality, racism.

                                          [–]Warbags 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                          Making school districts pay is dumb because then it makes the entire districts' education lower because budget cuts need to be made. I don't have a better idea unfortunately, this whole situation is just fucked.

                                          [–]VeronicaNew 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Ideally, the teachers, coaches, administration should lose their jobs, face jail time, and pay from their own pockets to this family.

                                          But clearly that isn't going to happen in this town. So speak a language they understand: money. Lack of consequences fostered this hostile and violent environment.

                                          This young man will have medical bills, need therapy, and the district is liable and responsible for that, plus his excessive pain and suffering.

                                          Edit: words

                                          [–]yortuk 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          I really don't see a problem with holding the community responsible in this case. With the extent of the ongoing abuse, in a tiny town like that there's no way people didn't know about it. And it's a certainty those kids didn't learn that behavior on their own (or "import" it from Texas). Fuck 'em all, let the town die.

                                          [–]eastearthman 67 ポイント68 ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                          How the fuck do you come up with " oh let's stick a coat hanger up his ass"

                                          "Oh great idea robert!"

                                          [–]addisrouge 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                          Hey hey. Don't drag me into this.

                                          [–]eastearthman 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                          Not you Robert, the other Robert

                                          [–]thesnake742 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          I'm going with repressed homosexuality.

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                                            [–][deleted] 543 ポイント544 ポイント  (136子コメント)

                                            I was wondering about the relevence of putting their skin color in the title - the kid got raped ffs! Why does the media have to make everything about race!
                                            Then I read this:

                                            According to the lawsuit, the alleged rape wasn’t a one-off but rather the culmination of months of racist abuse by white students against the boy, who is black.

                                            The boy “was taunted and called racist names by other members of the team which names included ‘Kool-Aid’ ‘chicken eater’ ‘watermelon’ and [the N-word],” the suit alleges.

                                            Fuck those guys.

                                            [–][deleted] 269 ポイント270 ポイント  (61子コメント)

                                            'chicken eater'

                                            Lol wtf do those white kids not also like chicken? I mean, who doesn't like chicken? Racists never cease to amaze me.

                                            [–][deleted] 102 ポイント103 ポイント  (40子コメント)

                                            I know, right? Same deal for watermelon!
                                            But then, I don't think the mind of a racist is the best place to find logic and/or reasoning

                                            [–]TonyVilla89 65 ポイント66 ポイント  (25子コメント)

                                            "Let me tell you somethin, if you don’t like chicken and watermelon, something is wrong with YOU!... Where are all these people who don't like Chicken and Watermelon?"

                                            [–]DatPiff916 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (23子コメント)

                                            I fucking hate watermelon, the texture is nasty and it taste like a sugary tomato.

                                            I haven't found anyone else that shares my disdain yet.

                                            [–][deleted] 79 ポイント80 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            a sugary tomato

                                            I think you may have had a rancid water melon

                                            [–]Brentfordfc 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            My wife feels equally disgusted by the thought and taste of watermelon.

                                            [–]cannabis1234 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            Your not alone. I can't stand the taste. And I'm in south ga where people think it's very strange I don't like watermelon

                                            [–]mces97 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                            I don't like watermelon either. We're out there.

                                            [–]mbz321 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                            I like watermelon, but it's very hard to find the 'perfect' one. Sometimes they aren't sweet enough, sometimes they are too liquidy, etc.

                                            [–]ack154 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            Sometimes they aren't sweet enough, sometimes they are too liquidy, etc.

                                            Probably just too much DNA in that one. Check the label next time to see if they have DNA in them.

                                            [–]Sysiphuslove 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Bubble Yum makes watermelons without the DNA

                                            [–]Joshmdrn94 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            I put salt on my water melon it's just the perfect mix to bring out the sweetness :)

                                            [–]minecraftcrayz 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            I fucking hate cilantro. Its not watermelon, but FUCK CILANTRO.

                                            [–]FakeAmazonReviews 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            I hate watermelon too! And I'm Black!

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                                                [–]Dixichick13 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                I give out about 20-25 lbs of candy each Halloween. I buy these huge discount tubs of filled suckers so you wouldn't want to waste money on one if the flavor isn't good. So I'm loading up my cart and this lovely old couple, who happen to be black, walks up starts looking at the varieties and I hear them debating, trying to decide which flavor to get for their church function. They start to buy a green apple tub and I shudder, everyone I know who's tasted them agrees they taste like green apple scented soap smells. Very nasty, chemical like aftertaste. So I say "I bet you and the kids would like the watermelon suckers instead". They started chuckling and then it dawned on me why. I felt my face turn beet red and managed to pull myself together to explain that the watermelon was my personal favorite and a hit with the trick or treaters as well. They ended up choosing watermelon.

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                                                  [–]R1CHARDCRANIUM 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                  My three year old doesn't like chicken this week.

                                                  [–]XpL0d3r 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  Well clearly you have a racist 3 year old.. this week

                                                  [–]Kaiosama 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  Lol wtf do those white kids not also like chicken? I mean, who doesn't like chicken?

                                                  The second irony is that the vast majority of black people in America don't even eat watermelon.

                                                  The watermelon industry would go belly up if it weren't for white people mostly purchasing the fruit at local supermarkets.

                                                  [–]Teresa_Count 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  Black people love fried chicken and watermelon! Just like ALL people do!

                                                  [–]twoweektrial 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotypes_of_African_Americans#Fried_chicken

                                                  http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/05/22/186087397/where-did-that-fried-chicken-stereotype-come-from

                                                  I asked Claire Schmidt for help. She's a professor at the University of Missouri who studies race and folklore. Schmidt said chickens had long been a part of Southern diets, but they had particular utility for slaves. They were cheap, easy to feed and a good source of meat.

                                                  But then, Schmidt says, came Birth of a Nation.

                                                  D.W. Griffith's seminal and supremely racist 1915 silent movie about the supposedly heroic founding of the Ku Klux Klan was a huge sensation when it debuted. One scene in the three-hour features a group of actors portraying shiftless black elected officials acting rowdy and crudely in a legislative hall. (The message to the audience: These are the dangers of letting blacks vote.) Some of the legislators are shown drinking. Others had their feet kicked up on their desks. And one of them was very ostentatiously eating fried chicken.

                                                  "That image really solidified the way white people thought of black people and fried chicken," Schmidt said.

                                                  [...]

                                                  Schmidt said that like watermelon, that other food that's been a mainstay in racist depictions of blacks, chicken was also a good vehicle for racism because of the way people eat it. (According to government stats, blacks are underrepresented among watermelon consumers.) "It's a food you eat with your hands, and therefore it's dirty," Schmidt said. "Table manners are a way of determining who is worthy of respect or not."

                                                  Fun facts abound.

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                                                    [–]StrongoFYB 59 ポイント60 ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                    They're football players though, so just boys being boys, right? /s

                                                    [–]Damn_Dog_Inappropes 78 ポイント79 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                    Yup, that's pretty much how the school district responded. At first I was kind of mad that they're suing the school and then I read that the coach made the black kid put on boxing gloves and fight his rapist, who is huge and wasn't wearing gloves. That town is seriously fucked up.

                                                    [–]FrOzenOrange1414 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    The school district needs to lose serious funding over this. Make them pay for their ridiculous response.

                                                    [–]crank1000 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                    To be fair, boxing gloves actually increase the chance of knocking the other person out, which is why they were introduced to the sport:

                                                    http://www.neatorama.com/2010/07/04/bare-knuckle-boxing-is-actually-safer-than-using-gloves/

                                                    [–]officeDrone87 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                    That actually makes it worse, not better. The guy without the gloves wasn't disabled and was physically much stronger. So he was able to beat the disabled kid for longer and mess his face up more because he WASN'T wearing gloves. If he was wearing gloves he would've knocked him out in one or two punches and it (hopefully) would've been over.

                                                    [–]PENIS__FINGERS 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                    does way more physical/superficial damage without gloves though

                                                    [–]Hodaka 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    Just like those football players from Steubenville, Ohio.

                                                    [–]thats_a_risky_click 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    It was just a prank bro

                                                    [–]Sysiphuslove 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                    the kid got raped ffs! Why does the media have to make everything about race!

                                                    Those kids are just the one cockroach you see running across the kitchen counter. The culture that created them - and the infestation in the walls - is the culture that maintains 'the media makes everything about race!'.

                                                    'Racism is history! It's not as bad as it used to be!'.

                                                    [–]quaxon 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                    Yea, I have seriously never felt so uncomfortable as I have felt walking around podunk-middle american towns as a minority with my white girlfriend and I travel to undeveloped countries all the time.

                                                    [–]HallowedWaltz 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    I don't go to the small towns in my northern state; they way I get stared at is unfuckingreal and sometimes they seem hostile to boot. Those tiny towns are terrible to be in as a minority.

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                                                      [–][deleted] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      exactly. People want to act like this is some sort of an anomaly where racists just pop up out of nowhere and their upbringings, or surrounding culture somehow have no effect.

                                                      [–]MakeAChoice9 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      Did you see some of the comments above, some actually would FEEL SORRY FOR THE ASSAILANTS if they got their comeuppance in prison. Reason being they would not properly learn their lesson in prison. Oh wow, how thoughtful of you mr. Humane. I wonder if their compassion extends to everybody?

                                                      [–]N8CCRG 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                      This is literally the "Great America" that Trump supporters want to go back to.

                                                      [–][deleted] 45 ポイント46 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                      I was wondering about the relevence of putting their skin color in the title - the kid got raped ffs! Why does the media have to make everything about race!

                                                      Why does Reddit carry this sentiment when minorities are victims? Whenever it's the other way around when minorities commit crimes, not only is race included in the title, but a pseudo echo chamber about race and religion gets triggered in the comments with people saying things like "It's relevant information about the article" or "it's the description of the thug, stop being triggered".

                                                      [–]MakeAChoice9 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                      *Edit I know this is gonna be down voted to oblivion, because like femnazi's some redditors run from the truth and can't stand it.

                                                      Cannot upvote you enough, I've noticed the Reddit hypocrisy too. There was an article about 3 men (2 hispanic 1 black), that where shot and injured when they tried to rape grandfather's granddaughter. Now the article did not mention the race of the assailants (had photos) but the reddit comments made sure to mention their race (stating they were all black mind you). It was like an echo chamber of stats and how minorities are like animals etc, etc.

                                                      So imagine my surprise when probably those same redditors are screaming how the assailants race is not relevant to the story (all white mind you) and we should just ignore it. To those redditors, go fu¤* yourself you non-self aware, hypocritical, cognitive-dissident zombies.

                                                      Those Redditors don't like it when someone points out their race but they want to stand on a soap box and point out everyone else's. Like it's some sort of flaw. To those Redditors, you know who you sound and act like? Femnazi's, you think the same and act the same with your hypocritical double standards. Only difference is one group mostly has vaginas. And at this point I don't know who it is.

                                                      "For in the same way you judge others, YOU will be judged, and with the measure YOU use, it will be measured to YOU." -Matthew 7:2

                                                      But weak, spineless, racist femnazi's Redditors don't like being measured like everyone else.

                                                      [–]throwaway12345678100 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      Everything you said is 100% correct. Any time a story involves a minority, the focal point is the person's race or religion. if it involves a white person and you bring up race, you'll be downvoted and receive a bunch of "Why does race matter?" bullshit responses

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                                                        [–]cereblown42 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        It must suck to be black and have to wonder, whenever someone is being mildly unkind or horribly cruel to you, whether or not they are justifying their actions with your skin color. It must suck more to have to people dismiss that sense of disgusted wonder as probably not relevant. Thanks for coming around on this one, this time.

                                                        [–]davoarid 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                        I was wondering about the relevence of putting their skin color in the title

                                                        That was your first thought?!?!?!

                                                        [–][deleted] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Rape, hanger,boys, BLACK!!?? WHITE??!! outrage

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                                                          [–]twoweektrial 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                          On a larger note; race matters much more than most White people are aware (don't take this personally, it's not meant to be), as well as more than many people of color. We live in a society that intentionally distorts history and current narratives to suppress the ideas and the success of people of color.

                                                          The media actually tends to under-represent the effect and the size of race issues in America. If you're interested, I can show you a fun chart of how proportionately media outlets report on race issues (related to their actual prevalence and significance) per outlet. Hint: Fox News is the worst.

                                                          [–]I_AM_VARY_SMARHT 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                          Sounds like /r/European & /r/Worldnews IRL.

                                                          [–]FUCK_THE_THALMOR 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                          No he wasn't Muslim. Honestly sounds like a lot of r/news commenters.

                                                          [–]IMAROBOTLOL 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Inb4 "THIS IS ALL A CONSPIRACY BY BLM AND GEORGE SOROS!"

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                                                            [–][deleted] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            Same reaction.

                                                            [–]TheRealRobinJR 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                            Set them on fire.

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                                                              [–]Basdad 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                              This football team needs to be dissolved by the schools administration. Perhaps form a new one with no former team member. Let the legal system deal with the legal issues. This is disgusting behavior, shame on all of them, and the coach also.

                                                              [–]bjacks12 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                              Just dissolve it, don't reorganize it. In a small town, everybody who wants to be on the team is on the team, so there'd be no point in searching for other players.

                                                              [–]yortuk 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                              Dietrich is one of those tiny schools that play 8-man football, because there aren't even enough students to field a whole team. Dietrich's school is K-12, they don't even have a separate high school. Which also gives you an idea of the kind of fishbowl this was all happening in, and yet nobody did anything to stop it.

                                                              [–]RedditRebirth2 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                              In a small town, everybody who wants to be on the team is on the team

                                                              Except for all the kids that don't happen to be in grades 9-12

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                                                                [–]OH_NO_MR_BILL 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                For the life of me I cannot understand how all the people involved in this let it get so far is there not one person with any common decency at all? And WTF is this compulsion to stick things up people's ass? Seriously WTF is that all about?

                                                                [–]pazilya 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                rural Idaho. that was probably the only black kid any of those kids knew.

                                                                [–]bobzilla509 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                Idaho's black population is .6%.

                                                                I grew up in Eastern Washington (Spokane) near the Idaho border. Most black guys I knew would not go to Idaho. The Aryan Nations used to be in north Idaho also. But this rape didn't take place in northern Idaho.

                                                                [–]Y_Me 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                Also, he was one of the few non-Mormons.

                                                                [–]Damn_Dog_Inappropes 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                I'm sure a lot of people were wanting to stop this, but didn't want to be victimized, themselves.

                                                                [–]OH_NO_MR_BILL 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                I could understand kids but apparently adults knew about this as well.

                                                                [–]Damn_Dog_Inappropes 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                Yeah, the coach should face criminal charges for that "boxing" match he initiated.

                                                                [–]gopster 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                It claims school administrators and coaches did nothing to stop the racial and physical abuse towards the boy, who was especially vulnerable due to “mental disorders including learning disabilities.”

                                                                The suit even claims that Dietrich football coaches encouraged other players to fight the boy, allowing a much larger student to knock the boy unconscious as other students shouted “catcalls, taunts and racial epithets

                                                                If this is found out to be true, I hope the school officials all go to jail for negligence. I hope the buggers that did the buggering get buggered themselves in jail. Rape is no joke, but there is a special place in hell for assholes like these.

                                                                [–]Sun-Anvil 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                Mr. Howard is a relative of prominent individuals in the community and, at least in part due to his athletic ability and community connections,

                                                                Yea, let's see how this goes. I have a feeling this dude which appears to be having issues with being gay (based on other comments in the article) will get a slap on the wrist. Pieces of shit like this need to disappear.

                                                                [–]punkinheadmartin 98 ポイント99 ポイント  (35子コメント)

                                                                For non-US: In the 80's and 90's a bunch of violent racists - among them Christian Identity believers - were driven out of various parts of the country, and many relocated to rural Idaho.

                                                                [–]HaywoodJablomie2512 94 ポイント95 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                For non-US

                                                                Don't think many people in the US even knew that before.

                                                                [–]punkinheadmartin 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                Yep, militias were the big scary domestic threat back then. Michigan was also popular for them.

                                                                [–]50-fifty 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                How quickly we forget.

                                                                [–]bokononharam 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                Just curious, how does this "driving out" process work, and does it work for Scientologists?

                                                                [–]ISIS-ISIS-BABY 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                It was more they migrated to Idaho for more favorable conditions.

                                                                [–]GiantNomad 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                It really bothers me when people say "there aren't recent Christian terrorists." The Christian Identity was a full on goddamn Christian terrorist movement.

                                                                [–]cedarhills 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                Close to Coeur D'Alene, Idaho is one of the biggest White Supremacist and Neo-Nazi compound. https://thebluereview.org/most-say-aryan-nations/

                                                                [–]Ratboy422 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                Was, its nothing now like it was in the 90's. Most of them have been sued out of here. Back in the late 90's, every concert I went to had a group of skin heads at it. Now, none. Im not saying that the movement is gone from around CDA, but its nothing like it was before.

                                                                [–]Y_Me 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                I believe this particular group has ended up in Texas...

                                                                [–]Chicagodivemaster 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                It's been gone for a long time.

                                                                [–]ThunderSnowStorm 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                Shame. I drove from Seattle along I-90, and it was a VERY scenic drive. The beauty of the area left me in awe.

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                                                                  [–]Gear_Fifth 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                  Could you please elaborate a little bit more on this?

                                                                  [–]Ratboy422 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                  In the early 80's, Richard Butler came to North Idaho and pretty much made it the center for neo-nazi asshats in the US. This is what caused Ruby Ridge. The feds were trying to set up Randy Weaver to sell an cut shotgun to them because they wanted to use him as an informant against the Aryan's. Being that they fucked the whole thing up and murdered Randy's wife and kid, it just made it worse around here. More dip shit Aryan's showed up and started having rallies around Coeur d'alene. North Idaho has always had a "fuck big goverment" vibe. But with Waco and Ruby Ridge, it just got worse. The Aryan's beat up some kid and his mom and they sued them. They won and pretty much shut down the compound and burned it. Sad thing is that its starting to happen again. There is a group trying to build a compound again. From what I can tell its more the anti-government type then the racist assholes.

                                                                  [–]SoManyWasps 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  The racist asshole type has morphed into the anti government type. They simply add new layers of bullshit onto their rhetoric to morph their racism into a small government crusade. This has been especially prevalent since the election in 08.

                                                                  [–]bigbluemofo 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  ..who brought with him from Texas a culture of racial hatred towards the Plaintiff.

                                                                  I thought that part sounded a little wishful.

                                                                  [–]Gear_Fifth 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  Thank you very much.

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                                                                    [–]The_sad_zebra 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                    Does this mean I shouldn't buy potatoes?

                                                                    [–]DonGeise 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                    Christian Identity

                                                                    This is not that part of Idaho. That's up north west, this is south central. The cultures are quite different, this is just a story about stupid fucking kids.

                                                                    [–]Seventh7Sun 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                    Idaho is a very large and diverse state. The area these people are from is nothing like, nor anywhere near, the area the white supremacist and militant groups flocked to (and were eventually driven out of).

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                                                                      [–]MerkinDealer 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                      We had something similar in my high school. Three football players held a guy down in the locker room and penetrated him with Sharpie markers. They did get suspended for a semester, but the football players had overwhelming student and faculty support. The victim had to move.

                                                                      [–]Rosebunse 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      ...what the fuck?

                                                                      How do you even come up with something like that?

                                                                      [–]epfourteen 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                                      When is this shit finally gonna stop.

                                                                      [–]themeatbridge 41 ポイント42 ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                                      Probably never. There will always be shitty people, just as there always have been. It's not that long ago that this would have been swept under the rug as "boys will be boys". Hopefully, the civil suit is enough to spur other schools into doing more to prevent these sorts of crimes.

                                                                      [–]RedditV4 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      When all the humans are dead.

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                                                                        [–]AnnieChapman 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                        Animal. Lock him up forever. There is no way he can be rehabilitated. If he's doing this at 18, what will he do at 25, 30 etc?

                                                                        [–]clark_bar 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                        Gawd, what a horrible read. I hope that poor guy knows some measure of peace in time.

                                                                        [–]Spektram 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                        They knew the fact that he'd go in for a hug. That the thought of being accepted is the perfect tool to use against him.

                                                                        When you use that as a tool for evil, you are a psychopath.

                                                                        [–]FrOzenOrange1414 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                        They all need to be locked up. Fire the coaches who let this happen too. Football players or not, these sick fucks deserve to rot in prison.

                                                                        [–]InvisibleRings 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                        In case anyone else was curious as to how bad "Notorious KKK" is, here's a link (NSFW). Not sure if the lyrical content or the terrible quality is more offensive.

                                                                        [–][deleted] 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                        I was told about 50 times on r/news if someone is accused of rape their life is ruined and they are sent to jail. Not sure why this team is not in jail and life ruined yet?

                                                                        [–][deleted] 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                        Because reddit is wrong.

                                                                        [–]gassygooselover 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                        Wrong gender for the victim, I guess.

                                                                        [–]HughGWrecktion 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                        I mean just because it doesn't happen in one case doesn't make it less valid. It does however compound the fact that many rapes go unreported for reasons just like this, they know the perpetrators will go free.

                                                                        [–]Fernao 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                        Because nobody cares if it was a guy that got raped.

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                                                                          [–]Seventhsonshoah 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                          This can easily kill someone. The charges should reflect this.

                                                                          [–]Gruffily_Wilkins 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                          What the fuck is wrong with people?!

                                                                          [–]FishstickIsles 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                          Sounds like it was allowed to go on for way too long by the school, bet they will get lit up now in court.

                                                                          The assholes doing this should be put in prison for a long, long time. This kind of shit has no place in the world.

                                                                          [–]Warpumpkin7 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                          Hatred and ignorance are still present in society. It's unfortunate the things that happen because of hatred and ignorance.

                                                                          [–]killshelter 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                          I know that nobody deserves a trial by media, but these sick fucks need to not get off easily. If the judge is too lenient I hope these kids get what they deserve from an outside judgement.

                                                                          [–]Carolyn_Know 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                          For once, redditors seem to get it

                                                                          [–]teddytwelvetoes 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                          The top post even begins with the Uncle-on-Facebook type complaint about references to race(s) in the headline, followed by a quote (they read the article!) showing that said references were actually relevant. I'm astonished.

                                                                          [–][deleted] 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                          If the story was about a girl the comments would be much different.

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                                                                            [–]rillo561 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                            How does a football team have a disabled teammate? What position did he play?

                                                                            [–]mrbebop 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                            Life in prison, hey. Going to be a short life, I'd wager.

                                                                            [–]pineapplesmellgood 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                            It kills me that he was mentally disabled. He thought he was getting a hug.

                                                                            Those guys are sick, I really hope their charges are taken seriously by the judge and not just "oh he's the son of so and so, so we'll give him a tap on the wrist."

                                                                            [–]kremlin888 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                            I'm normally against tax payers footing the bill for individual mistakes, but this is ridiculous. That kid deserves a huge payout and that entire school needs to be disbanded as apparently there isn't one adult in the school who isn't a worthless shit.

                                                                            This is the type of shit BLM, Jackson, and the rest need to show up at. It's clearly a hate crime.

                                                                            That family needs to get paid and they need to file civil suits against any adult who had knowledge of the bullying.

                                                                            [–]N8CCRG 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                            his is the type of shit BLM, Jackson, and the rest need to show up at.

                                                                            That would mean going to that shit town in Idaho. No cause is worth that.

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                                                                              [–]pecktrpip 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                              As a black person who's 86 year old grandfather recently told them that "I thought [the racism issue] would get better, but I've lived to see it get worse", I have only one question: when the fuck will it end.

                                                                              [–]Slimerbacca 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                              That's a fucked up football team right there

                                                                              [–]KyuuAA 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                              frequent abuse by Howard and his fellow teammates, including “aggressive ‘humping’, jumping on him from the back and simulating anal sex,”

                                                                              So, they're closeted homos. Well, they'll be able to explore their gay tendencies in prison.

                                                                              [–]N8CCRG 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                              It's dominance. There's nothing erotic about it. Get a pair of female dogs together and you might see one hump the other one; it has nothing to do with sexual preference.

                                                                              These guys were on a months-long power trip. They found someone they deem as lesser than themselves, so they wanted to exert their dominance over him. They had greater numbers and no oversight by those in charge (i.e. those with more power), so the committed horrible dehumanizing acts on another human being without any remorse or humanity.

                                                                              Throw the book at 'em. But don't confuse their actions with closeted homosexuality.

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                                                                                [–]ThaGerm1158 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                Born in probably the most liberal city in Idaho and that was just barely enough to keep it above being a racist shithole. This makes me literally sick to my stomach.

                                                                                [–]byusefolis 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                I remember something similar that happened at Rancho Bernardo High School in San Diego around the year 2000. A bunch of seniors did a hazing prank where they sodomized some freshman kids with a broom stick.

                                                                                [–]Doctor_Murderstein 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                Love those small town American values.

                                                                                [–]Lamb-and-Lamia 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                Highschool athletes seem to rape eachother quite a bit. What's up with that.

                                                                                [–]PM_ME_UR_FAV_ANIMAL 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                Shouldn't they be charged with sexual assault, put on a sexual offender list, and also be tried as adults? These are future murderers/rapists/justin bieber fans.

                                                                                [–]mclemons67 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                I'll wait to see if this $10 million dollar case is real or if it's another Duke lacrosse, or poop swastika, or Delaware nooses, or etc. etc.

                                                                                [–]adafrank 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                I was never a bully in high school, but I also never understood how bullying and hazing, leads to forceable sodomy either? I don't know how anyone ever thinks shoving a coat hangar or any other object in someone's anus is funny whatsoever. I think the pack mentality in my high school 10 years ago, would have probably jumped those 3 boys if that kind of shit had ever happened at our school. There was a boy who was suspected of date rape in my senior year, and I'm pretty sure he got jumped at the graduation after party. I am not condoning this behavior, but it is bizarre to see how other small towns deal with this kind of stuff.

                                                                                [–]StrongoFYB 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                Howard and his fellow teammates, including “aggressive ‘humping’, jumping on him from the back and simulating anal sex,” according to the suit. His fellow football players allegedly gave him painful wedgies, stripped him of his clothes and took naked photos of him in the locker-room.

                                                                                Sounds like a bunch of serious closet cases.

                                                                                [–]nopingonthat 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                I normally don't harbor thoughts of homicide, but I really want to kill that bastard who instigated this. No coat hanger, just a hardwood baseball bat to the head until my arms give out.

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