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Halftime Discussion (self.reddevils)

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  • Stupid red card, but it works in our favor
  • a shocking miss from Lingard
  • static attacking play against a 10 man West Ham

Thoughts?

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[–]PoppinKREAMZlatan 66 ポイント67 ポイント  (9子コメント)

We should be playing much better than this. De Gea and Mike Dean have kept us in this match so far, need to come out stronger in the second half

[–]digitagCarrick 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

We should be dominating and creating a lot more. Our attack is very static, something needs to change. With Martial, Mata and Rashford on the bench and West Ham down to 10 I'm pretty confident of getting a goal or 2 if we can change things up.

[–]basalamader 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

WestHam basically has all ten men stationed within their half. It looks more congested than my grandpa chest in flu season

[–]mannahmannahScholes -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The narrow pitch is making things more difficult.

[–]Bendiit 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The pitch is the same width as Old Trafford

[–]hardgour 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Looking like a lot of tired legs out there

[–]Count__Duckula 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (2子コメント)

The most disappointing players are those that didn't play on saturday imo. Lingard and darmian have been dreadful

[–]dayveed1 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

So true, everyone defends Lingard, dude is not a starter....isn't matured enough like martial, Darmian can't go forward even if I threatened to cut his nuts off.

[–]ShadyRedDevil 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Darmian is bang average

[–]masocHerrera 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, this is the third game I've watched today. Boro Leicester and City Burnley, all games seemed like there was no intensity. Maybe that's what two games in two days would do.

[–]cristiano10sMartial 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Ibra shouldn't have started. Give Rashford a chance ffs

[–]ShadyRedDevil 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And I fear he won't be taken off until late in the second half, sadly

[–]RogerFedererFTWI love Fellaini - AMA -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

If Ibra wasnt rested today he wont miss a single match(and minute) in the league this season. Mark my words

[–]kw9403Rooney 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If he gets injured I'm holding you completely respobsible

[–]TheDoctor512Van der Sar 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

At this point I don't understand how people haven't gotten this. Zlatan and Pogba will play every single second in the league if they're not suspended or injured. People saying Zlatan should be subbed - it's not happening. It's not gonna happen now or next game or the one after that. Mourinho is too stubborn to do that.

[–]MoosjeMartial 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Everyone looks dead out there, including people like Herrera and Valencia who are normally machines out there.

Really poor decision to not play guys like Rashford, etc.

Also, if Shaw is out of favour with Mou, we NEED another LB. hopefully it won't come to that but Darmian doesn't cut it

[–]mu_37 41 ポイント42 ポイント  (4子コメント)

love Jesse but fuck me he can't keep missing those chances.

[–]FatJohnson6Van Persie[S] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't think he's show enough to be starting over Martial or Mata. I don't understand why he continues to be selected.

[–]mrpiggywinkles52Rooney 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because he runs a lot off the ball and stretches the defence more than either of those guys do tbh. And Mou may have assumed West Ham would park the bus, as is we're so shite they're playing football with 10 men,

[–]_LeftHookLarry -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Get him off get Rashford on he can beat a man.

Also don't really see the need for Carrick now, get Mata on

[–]badgarok725SAF 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How is Lingard getting all the attention but not Valencia who managed to miss half the net and hit it right at Randolph

[–]Willszz1De Gea 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I trust Jose to sort it out for the 2nd half. Also Valencia missing was just as bad as Lingard missing.

[–]EpicRumourTime 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Well he didn't miss. The keeper made an unbelievable save. Lingard actually missed when he hit the post.

[–]Willszz1De Gea 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That was not a unbelievable save imo. Valencia shot it in the direction of the goalie.

[–]RogerFedererFTWI love Fellaini - AMA 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Both. Great save but he was only given a chance to do that by Valencia

[–]badgarok725SAF 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He had a basically open net and hit it right at him. That's not great

[–]D1794Viva Ronaldo 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Shite. We've been a man up for 30 mins and dont even look the better side.

[–]GiovanniCivello 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

They're parking thats why.

[–]MichelPlatiniManchester Red Devil 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So? we have barely had any shots

[–]snowman131313Smalling 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bring on rashford and martial asap

[–]JoblessMuch 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shocking from Lingard and Valencia

[–]SirYohanIbracadabra 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Ok what happened to Herrera?

[–]Dave1711Januzaj 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's fucking wrecked I'd imagine.

[–]ischampthereMata 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He bundled into a tackle with Kouyate I think, and Kouyate's boot hit him in the face.

[–]scholeszzMkhitaryan 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Looks very tired, would like to see Mata on for him as funny as it sounds. West Ham have a man down and we've lots of possession anyway so might be worth having a more creative player in the 8 position.

[–]GlassCoyoteJose Mourinho 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

We look flat and exhausted.

[–]MichelPlatiniManchester Red Devil 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We always do when we come to London

[–]GlassCoyoteJose Mourinho 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Damian offers nothing forward.

[–]kaoticreapzRashgod 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And this is when he has to work less on defense with his man sent off.

[–]Takley -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Darmian offers nothing full stop

[–]mrpunman 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Fuck off. He's defending well

[–]Takley 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

... is he? What has he done thats above the minimum to be expected of any defender out there?

[–]RogerFedererFTWI love Fellaini - AMA 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Debatable. He is decent defensively but lacking forward. But he is worse going forward that he is s good defending

[–]mrpunman -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Are you even watching the game?

[–]zetabk -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Absolutely, every match that I've seen him he just hides.

[–]cookie1254Rafael 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Valencia and Lingard should be embarrassed

[–]TomKellJose Mourinho 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How the fuck did Lingard not score?

[–]Lost_And_NotFoundJones 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (5子コメント)

After the red (not a red) I was really hoping that we could properly thrash a team for the first time in ages, a good 6-0 maybe, but we're making use of the extra man too much almost. We know there should be space somewhere due to the extra man so we're just passing it around waiting for the space to appear but it's all taking too long, very reminiscent of LVG. Hopefully Mou will fire them up at half time and get us going forward like the last 20 minutes against Middlesbrough.

[–]SokkerboiMemphis 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They put 10 men behind the ball and are playing for a draw. Historically we have really struggled against teams who that the least couple seasons.

[–]McGriftyBüttner - 1 Gerrard - 0 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

What else are you gonna do when they're 10 people in their third

[–]Lost_And_NotFoundJones 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Stretch the pitch more for starters. Wingers and fullbacks wide to create more space in the middle and then move the ball quickly into the space. There's just too many touches on the ball at the moment.

[–]IVIikeManchester United 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

They have one of the narrowest pitches in the league, it's not easy to stretch them.

[–]badgarok725SAF 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not anymore, isn't the Olympic Park very large?

[–]sunny1993s 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Can't think of anything Lingard did that merits him starting over Martial, what an absolute snoozefest of a first half that was ffs.

[–]not1ofuRooney 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think it's more of giving martial a bit of a rest

[–]RogerFedererFTWI love Fellaini - AMA 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well for one he hasn't played another match only 48 hours before

[–]HamAaron 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Darmian and lingard are offering absolutely nothing, Herrera is having a horrid time, loses the ball more than he keeps it.

Hope martial and mata comes on, maybe Rashford for some urgency

[–]MadaraTheUchihahttp://www.howmanypremierleaguemedalshasstevengerrardwon.com/ 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lingard's been awful. Love the kid, but he's offered nothing.

Also, we look tired unsurprisingly. Hoping for Martial or Rashford in 2nd half.

[–]manutd19De Gea 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shit half, shit ref.

[–]__perfectenschlag__Rooney 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

https://youtu.be/rP8-1FNeD-s

[–]jacetto888SAY MY NAME 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We should be winning but on the other hand Feghouli shouldn't have been sent off. Tough game so far.

[–]TheFanboyDreams 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mike Dean has a bet on us tonight and we still can't get a goal

[–]Kiddcohen39Bailly 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fucking hate West Ham and their shite fucking stadium.

[–]Damobart15 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Imagine if Jones scores

[–]Papsicle01Bailly 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Daaaaaaamn we were bad

[–]HomelessSmurfMartial 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Are we playing with 10 men or are they?

[–]youreviltwinbrotherRashford 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Why they are booing Jones, I don't know, thick twats. Lingard should have scored, and I hope there's some changes because we need something extra. Mike Dean having a shocker, every little touch being blown for.

[–]TomKellJose Mourinho 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Because he got one of their players sent off?

[–]RogerFedererFTWI love Fellaini - AMA 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

But when we booed Danny rose it was all fine. Booing jones is perfectly understandable

[–]TomKellJose Mourinho 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Tbf Danny Rose DID injure someone but yeah it's almost the same thing.

[–]Stalin_Fergie_Mao 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

By getting crunched? How dare he

[–]TomKellJose Mourinho 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Never said I agreed with them, but that's clearly why.

[–]ungaayaAnder 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Poorest I have seen united play in a long time. The cluster of matches is really showing. Just want a win.

[–]Seith1 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We've been shit. Not really any one person in particular, but just collectively shit.

[–]cshields236Paul Scholes 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Worst half of football we've played in months

[–]noahcg123Her<3rera 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

10 men doesn't really benefit us, they're still sitting deep with their two walls of 4

[–]MirunMUFCCarrick 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ive got some kind of injury from LVGs time here, I NEVER expect us to score in the first half

[–]ADMRVPBailly 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Worst we've played in a long time

[–]conormizen_98 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can understand some of the players being tired but it's not really an excuse. Everyone's had to play a lot over the Christmas period, that's English football, it happens every year.

[–]cristiano10sMartial 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck disgraceful how West Ham are playing better than us with 10 men. We create only one chance and Lingard misses like he always fucking does.

Also, Ibra looks exhausted as fuck. I'd bring Rashford on

[–]Count__Duckula 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Absolute dogshit. We're playing at walking pace. Get a couple of goals then you can take it easy. Until then get you arses in gear.

[–]prototypeb1 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not the greatest performance so far, but im not too bothered. Ill take a result all day for this fixture. West ham can fuck right off. Hope we batter them second half

[–]WaffolaniDave Saves!!! 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We are playing SO UNBEARABLY SLOW.

I don't know if it's just fatigue or a new year's hangover, but we are moving the ball slower than the LvG era.

[–]_supertrampAnderLove 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Worst first half since Feyenoord away.

[–]iAmRealCarlosDangerEd Woodward 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is it the pitch a bit smaller or is it the camera angle that is making it look like there is not much space.

[–]vincent1989Herrera 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Jesus fuck the animosity towards lingard here is just sad! He's a decent player, no world class but decent player. Yes he missed a unbelievable chance. Martial isn't playing - it's called rotation. Yes rashford is also good. Yes Memphis may have scored that. He's scored some great goals for united and always puts in a shift. He's a united academy boy making good. He should be the darling of this club.

[–]HuzaifaElahiTony Henry 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

No, sorry, these misses fucking add up come the end of the season, you can't get away with it, Lingard isn't good enough and unless his finishing improves, he shouldn't get a game on the wing.

[–]vincent1989Herrera 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sure. As always if he isn't good enough, he isn't good enough. Just doesn't warrant the juvenile and cretinous responses that he gets

[–]chutzpahisawordValencia 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And the fuckers are blaming him more than Valencia for that miss. Valencia had enough time to react and score but Jesse's was all reflex. The ball just bounced off him and he did not have any time at all to react. That was not a miss, that was a unluck.

[–]SokkerboiMemphis 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (7子コメント)

The whole booing Phil Jones thing is pathetic

[–]chutzpahisawordValencia 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Not really. Happens all The time and it is part of the game.

[–]SokkerboiMemphis 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I get it. But the foul wasn't his fault. He didn't over react. He's not to blame for the red. So why boo him?

[–]GiovanniCivello 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because West Ham fans are confused Zoo animals in their new habitat.

[–]chutzpahisawordValencia 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Why was Valdes booed last game?

[–]manutd19De Gea 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because Ibra didn't touch Valdes, he made a meal of a shit decision. Jones more than likely was hurt in the follow through which is why he was rolling around on the floor. Still a shit decision.

[–]whosthedctrBailly 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mostly being a time wasting ass I presume, Phil jones didn't really do anything if anything they should be booing mike dean

[–]Dave1711Januzaj 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're pissed I really can't blame them.

I'd be raging if Jones had got sent off if the roles were reversed.

[–]interttius 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

omg Jones scared the shit out of me

[–]KillForFood 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Martial needs to come in.

[–]lawanhawizy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Looks like one too many games for some of our players.

Herrera seems so off the pace.

Martial to come on and stretch the game?

[–]WaffleMan29Mata 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That valencia lingard chance looked like something straight out of fifa

[–]HuzaifaElahiTony Henry 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pathetic, absolutely shocking tempo, fucking outrageous miss from Lingard

[–]GlassCoyoteJose Mourinho 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Valencia should've finished, Lingard was unlucky & had no time to react against a deflection

[–]CveinMemphis & Martial 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We are playing like shit.

[–]LVGsNutsackValencia 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Poor half. We are playing way too casually.

[–]legojs 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

cant believe either lingard or valencia scored that... holy that will haunt us.

[–]Granty_C 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Very disappointing performance so far.

[–]GreaseMeUpAndDown 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its alright he runs in behind

[–]Femme-Fatale 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Westham playing "Battle without honor or humanity" before the game; sums up their stadium quite nicely.

[–]anothercodnoob 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We look very tired team. Lindgard has been poor this half, in fact most of them are not playing well..

[–]Auditynevan Persie 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Herrera has been poor, but so has most of the team

[–]Ultra_light_beamsBeckham 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Our wingers come inside too much compacting the field. Need to use the width better.

[–]Disco_Volante416 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Darmian needs to be sprinting to those balls. He looks way to passive out there. Someone needs to get in his ear and tell him to put a shift in.

[–]saravicoleBlind 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hate to say it, but Herrera needs to come off. Mata preferably, but probably Fellaini. Martial for lingard. Also, darmian better not get a 2nd yellow.

[–]patcheee 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Every second ball is going to west ham when it breaks. We need to be winning these if we want to catch them out.

[–]Giordano_5Rachel Riley 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow we have been dogshit. Everyone has been bad so far. I love Herrera but he has been bad, same with Lingard.

[–]middlenamemalcolm 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fair bit of sloppiness on our part. Perhaps a bit of fatigue. Second-half subs (Martial, Mata) may be the way through them amidst this tough schedule.

[–]Carnestm 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Midfield looks lost and too jammed. Lingard, Ander, mhki and Pogba all jostling in the middle...and then also Carrick.

Need to stretch out wider and use Valencia and darmian for the overlap with the man up.

[–]redx211 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The game was looking to be an entertaining open back and forth game but Mike Dean completely killed that. Now West Ham are going to be a tough nut to crack. Lingard absolutely should have scored that sitter.

[–]Talezeusz 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just bring Martial and Rashford and let them raid inside the box, West Ham will be forced to challenge them, right now they are just passing like they are on the training.

[–]Melanjoly 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

0/10 performance, get Martial/Rashford on right now ! Darmian is woeful lads. Jesse having one of those games where he looks like he won a raffle to play for Man United, he'll be due a worldie next week though.

[–]johnsom3Ronaldo 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm a big defender of Lingard but he just isn't doing enough this game. Please bring on rashford or Martial. Damian as well should come off, he's borderline useless in attack and West Ham is more than happy to let him recieve the ball.

[–]the_lord_of_light 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

unpopular opinion but thats definitely a red to me

reckless challenge

we have been dire since the red though

[–]seihandaShaw 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We look so tired

[–]kw9403Rooney 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We need to be faster on the wings and overload them, we need to make them think we're going to just attack the wings with Pogba and Ibra surging into the box. Until they think we're dangerous on the wings they're going to keep playing really compact

[–]Mosusu 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Darmian is getting bullied by Antonio, we've been lucky. We should be playing better, regardless of numerical advantage.

[–]RaymondShoots 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Need to be more direct, hoping to see Martial and Rashford come on.

[–]OTownTrillaFoRilla 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The decision was bad. But after that halftime replay it wasn't THAT bad. The intention was to go studs up, he was just fortunate not to get there in time with studs Up

[–]Octopus69Lord Beckham 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Worrying response from the players, it's still 0-0 lads keep at it!

[–]elvisgreenHorny Pogba 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Now the time to bring fellaini on for herrera. Sure thing he'll providing good aerial threat and breaking the compact midfield of westham.

[–]Qwertyasdfzxcv123De Gea 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just seems like we're passing it about too much, we need to widen the play but with darmian and lingard playing shit, Valencia getting caught offside Everytime he gets the ball and mkhi liking to drift in there's no chance of that without subs.

[–]Takley -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Absolutely pathetic.

Darmian and Lingard has got to be one of the shittest wide pairings we've ever had. Both belong in the championship.

[–]unitedlover69 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If west ham hadn't had 10 men, we would be 1 or 2 down. Very poor from utd so far

[–]SonnyisKing -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Referee is helping us and we still produce that absolute shite in the first half?

Darmian is absolutely bang average and so is Lingard. It's like we don't even want to win the game.

[–]nelsonandthemandelas 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Im so sick and tired of the fickle, pathetic plastic fans in the Match thread. Jesus, stop berating the team and every player. Most of the players ran their legs off against Borough two nights ago, we are playing away after travelling, on a narrow pitch, against a team sitting deep and making spaces hard to come by. Fucking relax.

[–]the_trainmanRobson 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We're playing too slow. We need Martial to run at the defense.

There were shades of LVG when Pogba/Carrick were on the ball, ibra/lingard/mkhi weren't making any runs. They were standing with their backs to the goal. Lots of sideways passes. It's quite frustrating to watch.

With a numerical advantage early on in the first half, we should at least be a goal up.

[–]Hugh_MadbroughRooney -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Darmian has got to put in more effort, he's just casually jogging towards loose balls, and hasn't offered anything going forward.

[–]McGriftyBüttner - 1 Gerrard - 0 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Kill me