What makes Herrera good?

Great post. Exactly what I was searching for

Its strange to label him invisible and anonymus considering he has 20 percent more touches and 25 % more passes than any other player on the pitch.

He is also our best player of the ball.

He is a midfielder. What sort? After watching the last few months he seems like a defensive minded box to box player.

He covers ground well. Some people call it running like a headless chicken. But if you observe carefully, he does so while simultaneously covering passing angles.

He is an active midfielder. Statistically, he performs a lot of actions such as tackles, interceptions, shots( not his biggest strength) etc. You can't say he is an invisible man. Whoever says it obviously has a different view on football. He likes involvement.

And we don't need superstars in every position. You need consistent players who will provide a base for the superstars to perform. Herrera, Carrick, Valencia etc. are that sort of players.

He clears everything up, he is always there to pick up the loose ball and recycle play. He makes interceptions and tackles. He breaks up the opponents attacks. He plays good balls forward and speeds up our play. He is good in every aspect of the game. If anyone doesn't rate this guy they are clueless. One of the first names on the team sheet for me.

I usually think this type of thing is harsh - but I completely agree here. People that are calling him invisible obviously don't watch games.

People kept saying that about Carrick, Mr Invisible.

His passing, high pressing, interceptions and tackles, and transitioning defence into attack quickly.
Just wish he would stop those left footed half volleys.

He's a team player for sure

You didn't see him today? He was amazing today. Wins the ball back and recycles it quickly, tremendous workrate, he was everywhere today.

Why ? Because he's a very good midfielder. He's good on the ball, a good short passer, is intelligent and gives us terrific work rate. Has Pogba been good of late because of his goals?

Hard to say who he is similar to, but he's been one of our best players this season.

^Bravo.

End thread.

Invictus killed it.

I see why he got poster of the year

If he was better on the ball he would be a perfect midfielder. His movement is very good, keeps the intensity and the balance of the team by pressing inteligently and rarely losing the ball. You should upgrade on him to take the next step but he is very useful and should be a regular sub.

He's the spanish Adrien Silva.

Carrier water who is overrated by the fans..but he is 10 times better than Fellaini.

What makes him good.

1) He never loses the ball
2) He is really good at finding positions so he can receive the ball
3) He covers a lot of ground
4) He is a good passer of the ball without being brilliant
5) He Works hard for the team
6) And this season he is also reliable - he is always good without being brilliant.

This thread is so fecking stupid.

His work rate, vision, pressing etc are decent imo.

The only thing lacking is passing range and consistency of it. Which means he is most effective as playing a bit advanced role.

Holding midfield is not his best position imo.

He does dirty work thats not easy on the eye. Lack of physical presence and lack of exciting, risky plays makes him look below average but he is just slightly above average. By now I thought he was gonna be better. I think it's fair to expect from him a goal here and there and an assist here and there.

He's Mourinho's new Tiago, only much more talented on the ball.

Because he tries his best every fecking time and he is serious about it. And sometimes he does have genius moments.

If you have ever played footie in a midfield/defense you would understand how important it is to have that one guy that is always available to pass the ball to, or cover behind you.

He is a smart player that is always at the right place at the right time. And he sees the plays and can make great passes.

Winning tough balls in midfield by Pogba and then having Herrera to pass to so he can create space is how we control possession.

Great analysis @Invictus , especially that clip of Herrera organizing the team on a corner

This. But Tiago didn't run as much to pressure opponents, he just used his physical presence and good positioning. And he's still doing it at Atlético when he's not injured.

Work rate, honesty, no bullshit and a general nice guy. A pleasure to have him at our club.

Workrate, positioning, tactical awareness, and his passing is great. Doesnt give the ball away much which is a real bonus for a player too. Great team player too.

He's a relentless presser, as stated before, but he's also very adept in tight spaces and as such very useful in matches where space is congested.

He's got good feet and he moves the ball forward quickly with no fuss, which makes us tick.

No Carrick, but who is?

Its impossible to miss him in a match. He's always pressing and will never shy away from the ball. You must be watching a different player.

As always, great insight, @Invictus.

You mean, Adrien is the portuguese Herrera

I don't know how accurate this is but I read on reddit that he completed 116 passes today with a accuracy of 94% and that he had 11.7% of the total possession.

Ridiculous threads like this are a great way of figuring out whose opinions are actually worth listening to on here. Honestly, you're above the age of 20 and struggling to figure out the value of players like Herrera then you should consider investing your time in another sport because football just isn't for you.

That little turn with the ball he likes doing is enough to warrant his selection on it's own

I wouldn't listen to him. He's the most hilariously bias Chelsea fan I've ever encountered. Think he's just a bit giddy this season.

Trying to figure out what kind of player he really is hardly devaluating him.

Hilarious isn't it considering so many on here wank over fecking Kante.

Workrate, ball control and decision making. Very smart - compliments Carrick and Pogba

Check out the time at which it was posted. This thread is a classic of the premature scape-goating genre.

Passion (something we have lacked for years), energy, a knowledge of the game, awareness, the list of cliches goes on and on. Oh talent is something that's pretty important and he has that in abundance. This dude is a necessity for every team.

feck me.

This is insane.

How the hell can people still not see how good Herrera is even now. It's like they're trying their best to not realise that he was a HUGE factor in us finishing top four under LVG. And how important he is - the bigger the game he plays in, the better he plays. You NEED players like that around.

What makes him a good player? One thing: he finds a way to get a team 'into' a game. For all the numbers that people come up with that show how good Herrera is, the reality is that he is capable of -anticipating the play- better than anyone else in our side. Think about the majority of his yellow cards and why he gets them: They're generally TACTICAL fouls. Stopping breakaways that could lead to goals. And the 'interception' stat - he usually stops a flowing passing move from a good side before it really starts - probably why he was fantastic against Barcelona in 2013.

We're getting 20-30 shots against teams every game and he's in the lineup every time. Just because he's not got a great shot on him or doesn't pull off the hollywood passes, doesn't mean he's not a good player. He's an extremely clever player.

Notice to Ander, don't be invisible when @ThomasEmil is watching you.